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Uzumaki Episode SHI (4/Death) Japanese Subtitled Series Finale Discussion!!


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The show was alright, even if the production quality dipped. Still certainly one of the best Toonami originals tho and better than anything else they put out, although Shenmue was actually pretty good. Now can Lazaurs and Rooster Fighter put up to the challenge?

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On 10/20/2024 at 12:16 AM, ben0119 said:

Underneath here it's all a bunch of spiral...ness.

So it's because of ancient ruins or something that caused this.... ok.

So they're both going go give up?  Going down here was stupid in the first place.

So not even Kirie and Shuichi make it out.  What a waste of time!

I consider it pretty lame when not even the protagonist survives.

The city is back to normal but about to go into spiral mode AGAIN.  Sigh.

That was all pointless!

Just like AOT, right??

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On 10/19/2024 at 10:16 PM, ben0119 said:

That was all pointless!

Cosmic horror usually is.

Not going to gush about Uzumaki or anything, I liked and disliked quite a bit of the manga to the point of leaning negative. Pointlessness is a part of the horror in this genre, though.

It's supposed to be fear of the unknown and inexplicable. A surreal, unexplained thing happens and either it resolves itself or it's some kind of eternal struggle. Broadly, you can't really fight the stuff cosmic horror usually does.

Uzumaki had a fair share of good chapters, and also a bunch were really dumb.

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14 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

...how'd y'all like the dub?

Patrick Seitz, Anne Yatco and Kirk Thornton in prominent roles was nice. They all put in solid performances. Robbie Daymond was quite good at expressing Shuichi’s breakdown.

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Nice. Skipping most of this week's marathon since it's just the sub again, until MHA comes on, but guess I might pop on the dub marathon a bit next week to check it out here and there.

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I was trying to get a crunchyroll stream going thru discord. Everything was working but Crunchy somehow has the ability to block the actual video from appearing via the firefox tab. Would have been easy to join and chat.

I dont think I'll bother with much Uzumaki but ill prob be awake for MHA

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So this has been making the rounds - 

 

Another David Zaslav special. 

Poke was upset with the comparison when it was (briefly) made two weeks ago, but yeah, DanDaDan is superior.

 

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5 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said:

It wasn't that I thought DanDaDan being superior to Uzumaki was a stupid opinion, it was that I felt it was getting dangerously close to beating a dead horse.

At least now we can get back to a dead horse we all love to beat.

Blaming Zaslav.

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4 hours ago, Jman said:

So this has been making the rounds - 

 

Another David Zaslav special. 

Poke was upset with the comparison when it was (briefly) made two weeks ago, but yeah, DanDaDan is superior.

 

So Zaslav, who was not in power during two of the four delays, is somehow fully to blame? That math ain’t mathin’

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There’s reasonably one way Zaslav could have caused this project to go to shit. After years of delays and only one episode complete he brought the hammer down and then the team had to scramble to finish the other 3 episodes without any additional budget and without Nagahama directing.

You could argue they should have thrown more money at the job if that’s what it would take to maintain quality but the problems began with the initial budget and ambitious process for animating which Jason, Maki, Nagahama and anyone else managing the project should have realized much sooner and course corrected.

Sure if they had thrown more money at it things could have turned out better but it’s pretty reasonable for someone at WBD (Zaslav or otherwise) to refuse amending the budget when things fell apart. If these projects cost too much than they’re no longer worth doing for WBD and they’re probably pretty satisfied with the performance on Max despite  the critical reception.

Ep 2 was pretty embarrassing at points and there’s rough stuff in 3 and 4 but the overall product isn’t nearly as bad as people make it out to be. It’s just a huge letdown from ep 1.

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On 10/27/2024 at 10:01 AM, Jman said:

So this has been making the rounds - 

 

This seems like a reach. I imagine what actually happened was at least a little more complex, and might've involved other high-ranking execs. Shit, maybe DeMarco was the one who got impatient? I also would've used a different source than TVTropes, even I think that site gets shat on too much these days. Why not go for the linked article?

On 10/27/2024 at 10:43 AM, PokeNirvash said:

It wasn't that I thought DanDaDan being superior to Uzumaki was a stupid opinion, it was that I felt it was getting dangerously close to beating a dead horse.

Jman turns everything into a dead horse. Small wonder he didn't invoke the Netflix Voltron series when discussing the upcoming live-action movie. :RoboTongue:

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Just now, Blatch said:

This seems like a reach. I imagine what actually happened was at least a little more complex, and might've involved other high-ranking execs. Shit, maybe DeMarco was the one who got impatient? I also would've used a different source than TVTropes, even I think that site gets shat on too much these days. Why not go for the linked article?

Jman turns everything into a dead horse. Small wonder he didn't invoke the Netflix Voltron series when discussing the upcoming live-action movie. :RoboTongue:

I think the full story won’t come out for years, for better or for worse, so for now DeMarco and Zaslav take half the blame each.

And I think I just like having comparison points.

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I feel like the majority of people out there are dogpiling on this far more than it reasonably deserved, mostly by jumping on the "lol episode 2 looked like ass, this whole thing is shit" bandwagon. Do I think it was great overall? Absolutely not, but at the very least I think it was decent, with some truly fantastic moments sprinkled throughout. It certainly wasn't the irredeemable garbage that some have made it out to be.

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3 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

Nothing says like praising with faint damnation than calling Shenmue the Animation "mostly good".

I'm more interested in learning why Lynzee thinks Black Lotus misunderstands Blade Runner.

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On 10/27/2024 at 7:43 AM, PokeNirvash said:

It wasn't that I thought DanDaDan being superior to Uzumaki was a stupid opinion, it was that I felt it was getting dangerously close to beating a dead horse.

Hasn't telling Jman he's beating a dead horse been beating a dead horse for quite some time?

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I think the key difference here is that despite our numerous, NUMEROUS issues with the quality of such, ratings-wise, MOST of the Adult Swim anime (minus the FLCL sequels, but we all know those are DeMarco vanity projects) have done pretty well ratings-wise if we're using the Max charts as a guideline.  There are signs of a downturn in them though, Rick and Morty the Anime's viewership collapsed midway through its run and so did Uzumaki relatively after Episode 2 when prior it was actually doing better than The Franchise, one of HBO's big prestige dramas for the fall (the other is The Penguin which has been topping ratings charts overall).  Regardless of how you compare these shows to other libraries, we're seeing a pattern of the worm starting to turn in regard to viewership, especially as the "Adult Swim Anime Original" labeling becomes increasingly associated with bad shows and bad endings.  
 

It doesn’t help that the one show that was mostly liked by the audience and critics got screwed out of a Season 2 by the Crunchyroll/Warner divorce, and arguably the biggest name franchise wise in Blade Runner got screwed into being in copyright hell by Amazon buying the franchise rights and deciding to make a sequel to Blade Runner 2049.

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