Putin: "Stick to the timeline!"

[stilgar]

Nabs says genocide isn't genocide because America bad.

[Nablonsky]

1 minute ago, stilgar said:

Nabs says genocide isn't genocide because America bad.

"A genocide is anything I don't like"

[scoobdog]

20 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

This is not genocide. 

This is just pathetic.

Lol.

[tsar4]

My money would have been on Harry Dean Stanton to play this guy in the movie...

[brainscour]

8 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

My money would have been on Harry Dean Stanton to play this guy in the movie...

This is Hero?

[Top Gun]

Putin: "There is no such thing as a 'Ukrainian identity.' There is no entity known as 'Ukraine.' They must be Denazified."

Galaxy brain: "nOt GeNoCiDe"

[tsar4]

8 minutes ago, brainscour said:

This is Hero?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61089039

[Nablonsky]

7 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Putin: "There is no such thing as a 'Ukrainian identity.' There is no entity known as 'Ukraine.' They must be Denazified."

Galaxy brain: "nOt GeNoCiDe"

Unless de-nazified means killed, then no that quote does not indicate that a genocide is under way. Can you explain why you disagree?

[brainscour]

4 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61089039

Well yeah right they got Putin's main man

[Top Gun]

2 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Unless de-nazified means killed, then no that quote does not indicate that a genocide is under way. Can you explain why you disagree?

Tell that to Mariupol.

Seriously, if you're going to be this fucking disingenuous, do it in your litterbox thread.

Edited April 13, 2022 by Top Gun

[naraku360]

1 hour ago, Nablonsky said:

"A genocide is anything I don't like"

[Nablonsky]

21 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Tell that to Mariupol.

Why don't you go tell Gaza all about just how little time it took for people like you and Feeble Brandon to gaze at the magic eye trick picture version of what is happening in Ukraine that we're getting here on the other side of the world and recognize and call out 'genocide' there. So uniquely quick to do so there. That must just be because it's so obviously and clearly happening!! Not like in Other Places to Other People

[Nablonsky]

5 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Yes? Can you use your words to explain how this matches what we're seeing in Ukraine now? Because that is not what is happening

[naraku360]

5 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Yes? Can you use your words to explain how this matches what we're seeing in Ukraine now? Because that is not what is happening

Killing a large number of people from a specific nation with the intent of taking it over isn't killing a large number of people in a particular nation with the intent of destroying that nation?

Putin does not want Ukraine, as a nation, to exist. Why are you okay with that?

 

You on some strong shit right now?

Edited April 13, 2022 by naraku360

[Nablonsky]

4 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Killing a large number of people from a specific nation with the intent of taking it over isn't killing a large number of people in a particular nation with the intent of destroying that nation?

 

You on some strong shit right now?

 

No. Genocide doesn't mean people dying in a war. One country trying to take over another country doesn't mean it is doing genocide when people die in the course of the invasion. That is not what genocide means. 

 

1 hour ago, Nablonsky said:

"A genocide is anything I don't like"

 

*people dying in a war*  "GENOCIDE!"

*tear gas deployed*  "CHEMICAL WEAPONS!"

 

Stop. Stop being dumb. This is not what is happening, let alone the international standard as determine by the great empire America. 

[naraku360]

Just now, Nablonsky said:

 

No. Genocide doesn't mean people dying in a war. One country trying to take over another country doesn't mean it is doing genocide when people die in the course of the invasion. That is not what genocide means. 

 

 

*people dying in a war*  "GENOCIDE!"

*tear gas deployed*  "CHEMICAL WEAPONS!"

 

Stop. Stop being dumb. This is not what is happening, let alone the international standard as determine by the great empire America. 

It was an invasion, dipshit.

[stilgar]

6 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Killing a large number of people from a specific nation with the intent of taking it over isn't killing a large number of people in a particular nation with the intent of destroying that nation?

Putin does not want Ukraine, as a nation, to exist. Why are you okay with that?

 

You on some strong shit right now?

It's not genocide unless it comes from Genoa in Italy. Everything else is just sparkling mass murder.

[stilgar]

2 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

*tear gas deployed*  "CHEMICAL WEAPONS!"

I like that now that tear gas is being used outside the US you don't think it is a chemical weapon.

[Nablonsky]

7 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Putin does not want Ukraine, as a nation, to exist. Why are you okay with that?

Stating the obvious fact that this is not genocide doesn't mean I am ok with it, it means I do not support the cynical use of these cheap, shamelessly desperate tactics and semantic tricks being deployed by the presidents of Ukraine and America for political propaganda purposes. 

[Nablonsky]

2 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

It was an invasion, dipshit.

Yes? I literally just said that in the post you quoted? Why are you so incapable of behaving normally. 

[naraku360]

Uh. It's a war, guys.

You know, the kind with specifically one aggressor invading unprovoked against a significantly smaller country.

It's a """"""""""war"""""""""".

[Top Gun]

16 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Why don't you go tell Gaza all about just how little time it took for people like you and Feeble Brandon to gaze at the magic eye trick picture version of what is happening in Ukraine that we're getting here on the other side of the world and recognize and call out 'genocide' there. So uniquely quick to do so there. That must just be because it's so obviously and clearly happening!! Not like in Other Places to Other People

The only thing you have here are endless deflections and strawmen. "What about X? What about Y? Why weren't you also angry about Z?" If you're not going to talk about something resembling the topic, then stay the fuck out of the thread and go drool in your own playpen.

[Nablonsky]

9 minutes ago, stilgar said:

I like that now that tear gas is being used outside the US you don't think it is a chemical weapon.

Chemical weapons does not mean any chemical being used on people. The chemical weapons convention does not consider tear gas a chemical weapon which is the tier of lethal toxins that warmongers are invoking when they amplify false flags about "chemical weapons" being used in war zones. 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Nablonsky

[Nablonsky]

1 minute ago, naraku360 said:

Uh. It's a war, guys.

You know, the kind with specifically one aggressor invading unprovoked against a significantly smaller country.

It's a """"""""""war"""""""""".

What even is happening here...

[brainscour]

Nakkkkru

 

I BET YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ADMIT

you are just showing us a word puzzle.

 

[Nablonsky]

1 minute ago, Top Gun said:

The only thing you have here are endless deflections and strawmen. "What about X? What about Y? Why weren't you also angry about Z?" If you're not going to talk about something resembling the topic, then stay the fuck out of the thread and go drool in your own playpen.

...like the article I shared highlights, the newsworthy part about Biden declaring genocide in Ukraine is the extreme rarity with which that ever happens....only a single digit number of times ever has the US recognized "genocide" by name.... And it's happening here and now. This naturally leads to asking why it isn't also applied in situations where it's, you know, actually happening, either with us as the culprits or our allies who we sell the weapons to and provide critical support which allow them to carry out the genocide, in addition to providing the political cover necessary to prevent international intervention and the rule of law from interfering with the USA-approved genocidal programs. 

[brainscour]

4 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

The only thing you have here are endless deflections and strawmen. "What about X? What about Y? Why weren't you also angry about Z?" If you're not going to talk about something resembling the topic, then stay the fuck out of the thread and go drool in your own playpen.

This makes me want to vomit we're talking about a piece of rock okay well everybody look away and just f****** call it independent itself and no one owns it get yourself some Middle East cops that f****** patrol the place that are all on the same side and come from both countries and end of stupid s*** it's like a handshake can end this f****** s*** every time I hear Gaza I think oh my God this s*** this s*** this s*** but the Bible prophecies is 7 years of Peace in the Middle East is the end of times so they either keep killing each other or we're all going to f****** die I don't know what to tell you it is straw man in f****** XYZ and then no one knows what the hell but you're right you're right but you're wrong

[brainscour]

1 minute ago, Nablonsky said:

...like the article I shared highlights, the newsworthy part about Biden declaring genocide in Ukraine is the extreme rarity with which that ever happens....only a single digit number of times ever has the US recognized "genocide" by name.... And it's happening here and now. This naturally leads to asking why it isn't also applied in situations where it's, you know, actually happening, either with us as the culprits or our allies who we sell the weapons to and provide critical support which allow them to carry out the genocide, in addition to providing the political cover necessary to prevent international intervention and the rule of law from interfering with the USA-approved genocidal programs. 

You're pointing out things that drive gears that move Nations and move powers and move people you're pointing out the gears of society that keep us alive for generations and years and years and years and you have no idea why you're comparing these other situations you're just putting a ploy these other nations don't have anything to do with Putin

[brainscour]

Anyway you're like counting victims to comparing dead bodies so get me some more stats to go on?

[naraku360]

2 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Yes? I literally just said that in the post you quoted? Why are you so incapable of behaving normally. 

If 100 million people invade a country of 1 million, do you think that's a war?

Wars can, and often are, genocides.

There was 1 aggressor with disproportionately greater power than the opposition. That typically leads to disproportionate death on one side.

Putin was blatantly aiming for a genocide. He did it badly, but doing a genocide badly doesn't change it from being a genocide.

[brainscour]

Keep your friends close but your enemies really really really f****** close

[Nablonsky]

Just now, naraku360 said:

If 100 million people invade a country of 1 million, do you think that's a war?

Wars can, and often are, genocides.

There was 1 aggressor with disproportionately greater power than the opposition. That typically leads to disproportionate death on one side.

Putin was blatantly aiming for a genocide. He did it badly, but doing a genocide badly doesn't change it from being a genocide.

You don't know what genocide means. It isn't disparate deaths, it is about the intent to kill virtually everyone of a particular ethnicity, nationality, etc. That is objective not what is happening here. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Russia is trying to kill all or most Ukranians. That is not the reason Russia is waging this war. The goals and motivations are not to kill the people, that is happening as a byproduct. Ukranians are dying but this is what happens in war. That does not = genocide, whatsoever. Educate yourself. 

[naraku360]

18 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Chemical weapons does not mean any chemical being used on people. The chemical weapons convention does not consider tear gas a chemical weapon which is the tier of lethal toxins that warmongers are invoking when they amplify false flags about "chemical weapons" being used in war zones. 

"Use of tear gas in warfare, as with all other chemical weapons, was prohibited by the Geneva Protocol of 1925: it prohibited the use of "asphyxiating gas, or any other kind of gas, liquids, substances or similar materials", a treaty that most states have signed. Police and civilian self-defense use is not banned in the same manner.^[20]"

^{https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas}

Edited April 13, 2022 by naraku360

[brainscour]

It's probably a region of our actual ancestors of our species and they're going in with bleach and Lysol and cleaning their kitchens and toilets because they have no knowledge but they're a remnant it's like Eco dome la la la la la lol

[brainscour]

Today 1 million ukrainians got a shower for clean water and clean soap because they can't think they were never taught a language they are Eco dome lololo chemical waterfare

 

[naraku360]

5 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

You don't know what genocide means. It isn't disparate deaths, it is about the intent to kill virtually everyone of a particular ethnicity, nationality, etc. That is objective not what is happening here. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Russia is trying to kill all or most Ukranians. That is not the reason Russia is waging this war. The goals and motivations are not to kill the people, that is happening as a byproduct. Ukranians are dying but this is what happens in war. That does not = genocide, whatsoever. Educate yourself. 

Where in the definition does it use the word "all"?

Destroying a nation doesn't universally mean complete annihilation.

[Nablonsky]

4 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

"Use of tear gas in warfare, as with all other chemical weapons, was prohibited by the Geneva Protocol of 1925: it prohibited the use of "asphyxiating gas, or any other kind of gas, liquids, substances or similar materials", a treaty that most states have signed. Police and civilian self-defense use is not banned in the same manner.^[20]"

^{https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas}

Ok didn't know this you're right.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/06/fact-check-its-true-tear-gas-chemical-weapon-banned-war/3156448001/

I just know that cops can use tear gas indiscriminately and America and Israel can use white phosphorus and that's totally fine and not a violation. So wtf are we even talking about.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/25/ukraine-russia-white-phosphorus/

The point remains, they explicitly aren't talking about nonlethal tear gas when they're fretting about allegations of chemical weapons in places like Mariupol. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61077641

[Nablonsky]

1 minute ago, naraku360 said:

Where in the definition does it use the word "all"?

Destroying a nation doesn't universally mean complete annihilation.

I am begging you to go educate yourself instead of linking that screenshot over and over. This is just bad faith on your part. 

[Nablonsky]

2 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Where in the definition does it use the word "all"?

Destroying a nation doesn't universally mean complete annihilation.

10,000 + people dead in a nation of 40+ million after how many weeks of war being waged for reasons that have nothing to do with increasing the death toll as an intentional objective on its own. 

This is not genocide. That is not what genocide means. Quoting the same one line definition does not change that. Just stop. 

[brainscour]

Russia =/= Assad

never will

 

[brainscour]

I push out my lawlz and no replies?

 

Imma go in ffa

[Nablonsky]

Sorry, but they tell us all the time that bombing civilian areas is fine and dandy if that's where armed enemy soldiers are hiding or launching attacks from , "using civilians as human shields!!" All I see in Ukraine is a bunch of terrorists using terrorist tactics on a noble military superpower just trying to do a military operation to secure geopolitical leverage for its own national interests and future. What's good for Palestine and Afghanistan and Libya and Syria is good for Ukraine. Maybe Zelensky has to die in order to end the humanitarian nightmare his country is becoming, and damn whatever may follow in the vacuum.

There is no genocide. There is no international process Ukraine can appeal to. They need to stop letting in the American dogs and their radical right wing terrorist thugs who they arm and train and fund and send into snakepit proxy wars all over the world. The people in Ukraine need to just grit and bear what is happening to them. That is all that Ukraine is afforded. Sorry that bribing Hunter Biden didn't get you guys any more, but this is the world, these are the rules that America has created for everyone to play by. 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Nablonsky

[brainscour]

hey you wanna talk Russian Orthodox reasons?

 

I say look at disrespect of God in these countries!

[stilgar]

Nabs is ok with genocide and war crimes if Russia does it.

[Nablonsky]

Just now, stilgar said:

Nabs is ok with genocide and war crimes if Russia does it.

If you support the Team America bloc getting to punish any and every given country and leader in the world whenever they momentarily mirror the former's regular course of behavior, you are enabling them to maintain their hegemony, wielding the concept of intl law and human rights as a perveted political weapon while they of course execute with impunity innumerable more atrocities than any of their politically convicted opponents. This..... Cannot be strongly denied.

[stilgar]

13 minutes ago, stilgar said:

Nabs is ok with genocide and war crimes if Russia does it.

 

[brainscour]

32 minutes ago, stilgar said:

 

Did you ever hear sometimes being too bold with the truth is also equivalated as bossy or pushy? Tread lightly with those words

[scoobdog]

11 minutes ago, brainscour said:

Did you ever hear sometimes being too bold with the truth is also equivalated as bossy or pushy? Tread lightly with those words

Wow, that was an almost coherent threat...

[brainscour]

Just now, scoobdog said:

Wow, that was an almost coherent threat...

Babe, it's English class calm down.

[scoobdog]

Also, lol at Nabs yelling at people to educate themselves on what genocides are.  Yes, he's actually yelling at his computer.