Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I'm expecting to pay the lot rental for a double wide and not work. Maybe take one international trip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 A nice fantasy which you've no doubt worked very hard for many years to elucidate in your mind, but they're going to take it away from you all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Commander McBelch said: I'm expecting to pay the lot rental for a double wide What does one of those go for per month where you'd like to live anyway? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 And then the COPD and the lung cancer hits and the pension no longer has enough funds and social security gets cut and Medicare, after another Republican administration, starts disqualifying for preexisting conditions . . . oh my. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Your pension has already been taken and used to give cats abortions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, NaBraniel said: What does one of those go for per month where you'd like to live anyway? Just curious It varies widely. Look for someone who has to short sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, NaBraniel said: A nice fantasy which you've no doubt worked very hard for many years to elucidate in your mind, but they're going to take it away from you all the same. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commander McBelch said: How? Happens all the time. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-a-grocery-chain-is-dismantled-investors-recover-their-money-worker-pensions-are-short-millions/2018/12/28/ea22e398-0a0e-11e9-85b6-41c0fe0c5b8f_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, NaBraniel said: Happens all the time. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-a-grocery-chain-is-dismantled-investors-recover-their-money-worker-pensions-are-short-millions/2018/12/28/ea22e398-0a0e-11e9-85b6-41c0fe0c5b8f_story.html That's why the union holds the pension accounts. While casinos are getting bought and sold like Pokemon cards, the transient ownership and management can't take a cent out of the accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Commander McBelch said: That's why the union holds the pension accounts. While casinos are getting bought and sold like Pokemon cards, the transient ownership and management can't take a cent out of the accounts. I understand telling yourself this to stave off anxiety, the idea of financial security is very intoxicating, and you don't want to think of yourself as a sucker who got screwed, but when they come for your pension, and they will, you'll be forced to accept a settlement for a fraction of what you were promised because you have no choice, this is what they do to people. Better plan accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Commander McBelch said: That's why the union holds the pension accounts. While casinos are getting bought and sold like Pokemon cards, the transient ownership and management can't take a cent out of the accounts. You didn't read his link, packard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Commander McBelch said: That's why the union holds the pension accounts. Until they do something stupid, like when the Illinois Teachers Union loaned a large portion of the pension fund to the state. After all, what could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 https://www.brightscope.com/form-5500/basic-info/499111/Joint-Board-Of-Trustees-Of-The-Unite-Here-Local-54-Severance-Fund/511728/Unite-Here-Local-54-Severance-Fund/2019/ your unions pension is “interestingly” diverse.... and... that funding ration is equally “interesting” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Commander McBelch said: It varies widely. Look for someone who has to short sell. What's the higher end of what you think you could swing per month? Again just out of curiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: https://www.brightscope.com/form-5500/basic-info/499111/Joint-Board-Of-Trustees-Of-The-Unite-Here-Local-54-Severance-Fund/511728/Unite-Here-Local-54-Severance-Fund/2019/ your unions pension is “interestingly” diverse.... and... that funding ration is equally “interesting” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, NaBraniel said: There are quite a few red flags on this shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: There are quite a few red flags on this shit Probably not the most accurate report available, since there are in fact a number of people currently receiving benefits from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, NaBraniel said: What's the higher end of what you think you could swing per month? Again just out of curiosity You think I plan to take a loan on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Commander McBelch said: Probably not the most accurate report available, since there are in fact a number of people currently receiving benefits from it. Oh... ok..... so the audit is incorrect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Sawdamizer said: Oh... ok..... so the audit is incorrect? As long as the claim is that nobody is receiving benefits, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Looks less like a pension and more like a pyramid scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Commander McBelch said: As long as the claim is that nobody is receiving benefits, yes. You’re broke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Commander McBelch said: You think I plan to take a loan on that? No? Not sure where this non sequitur came from, I asked the question of how much $ you could afford to pay in rent/lot fees every month by not working and solely drawing from your pension, I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Sawdamizer said: You’re broke I'm broke, according to some idiots who didn't bother to count the number of active recipients when conducting this phony audit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Commander McBelch said: I'm broke, according to some idiots who didn't bother to count the number of active recipients when conducting this phony audit? Your union paid for this audit and accepted its results 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, NaBraniel said: No? Not sure where this non sequitur came from, I asked the question of how much $ you could afford to pay in rent/lot fees every month by not working and solely drawing from your pension, I'm just curious. Lot rentals vary widely, too. There are also a few states that allow mobile homes on land owned by the occupant. The property taxes on land that is technically undeveloped could be significantly cheaper than rent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Sawdamizer said: Your union paid for this audit and accepted its results So, why the zero? That alone is untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Commander McBelch said: So, why the zero? That alone is untrue. Well, the obvious answer is right there... you refuse to believe it. because you’re an idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBabby Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Commander McBelch said: Lot rentals vary widely, too. There are also a few states that allow mobile homes on land owned by the occupant. The property taxes on land that is technically undeveloped could be significantly cheaper than rent. I am simply asking what is the higher end of what you could afford to pay, based on what you expect to draw from your pension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Name a guy. Shit, make up a guy, we don't know anyone you work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Sawdamizer said: Well, the obvious answer is right there... you refuse to believe it. because you’re an idiot. Someone is not telling the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Commander McBelch said: Someone is not telling the truth. You. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 minute ago, NaBraniel said: I am simply asking what is the higher end of what you could afford to pay, based on what you expect to draw from your pension? Let me wait and find out how much the benefit is after retirement in a few more years. It increases with each year I put in. There's one pension plan managed by the local, a separate plan managed by the international and for employees of one particular casino, a third plan that had been managed by one of the former owners and later was turned over to a trust fund managed by the local. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Seight said: Name a guy. Shit, make up a guy, we don't know anyone you work with. What are you talking about now? Do you see anyone who had retired trying to sue the union? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, stilgar said: You. I'm not the one reporting that the plan has no active recipients. That's flat out absurd. Also, I just noticed that this report is more about the severance than the pension. Severance is a lump sum, not a monthly benefit. Edited May 15, 2021 by Commander McBelch New info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 That literally says nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: Oh... ok..... so the audit is incorrect? Audited by the firm of (Jake) Guzik and (Allen) Dorfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resurrected Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Commander McBelch said: It varies widely. Look for someone who has to short sell. Double widely. Your pension will only afford you the ability to rent. You will never own anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander McBelch Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, stilgar said: That literally says nothing. It says you're looking at the severance, not the pension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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