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I got fired  :| (Excuse me. Terminated.)

 

I honestly didn't expect to feel this...not sad? Like yeah it sucks and the idea of not making money terrifies me. Like really terrifies me. But like. I feel more relieved than anything tbh. I've hated that job for awhile and it was really starting to take a toll on me and my mental health (which, whowouldathunk, made my job performance suffer even more). Now I can focus more on looking for a new job full time and can more freely schedule interviews.

 

Plus HR did say I should be eligible for unemployment and they can still provide me with a "neutral reference" if I put them on a resume and can't disclose that I was terminated so I can fudge a bit if employers ask why I don't work there (i.e. Bring up the part about the job being bad for my mental health but leave out the part where I was terminated). Didn't even bother to ask my direct supervisor if I could use him as a reference but there's a worker at one of our other sites who I have a really good relationship whose number I got before I had to turn in my work phone. Might give her a call soon.

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Congrats, Athena. Welcome the club. Unemployment is terrifying, but fulfilling. *cracks open a beer and passes out*

 

I don't plan on being here for long. Just gonna take a day or two to process what happened then really crack down on the job search and hopefully find something decent within a few weeks.

 

But thanks tho

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I got fired  :| (Excuse me. Terminated.)

 

I honestly didn't expect to feel this...not sad? Like yeah it sucks and the idea of not making money terrifies me. Like really terrifies me. But like. I feel more relieved than anything tbh. I've hated that job for awhile and it was really starting to take a toll on me and my mental health (which, whowouldathunk, made my job performance suffer even more). Now I can focus more on looking for a new job full time and can more freely schedule interviews.

 

Plus HR did say I should be eligible for unemployment and they can still provide me with a "neutral reference" if I put them on a resume and can't disclose that I was terminated so I can fudge a bit if employers ask why I don't work there (i.e. Bring up the part about the job being bad for my mental health but leave out the part where I was terminated). Didn't even bother to ask my direct supervisor if I could use him as a reference but there's a worker at one of our other sites who I have a really good relationship whose number I got before I had to turn in my work phone. Might give her a call soon.

 

As someone who works in HR, I would advise against mentioning that your previous job was bad for your mental health. Even if it's true, most employers are going to take it as you not being able to multi-task or handle deadlines well. Most good jobs are going to be stressful or have pressure associated with them....so right off the bat, notifying a prospective employer about something like that kind of sends a red flag in terms of future prospects.

 

Additionally, most employers have a "neutral reference" policy. They aren't really doing anything special for you there. Most companies just do a simple employment verification in terms of dates of employment, job title and salary. There is too much defamation liability involved (unless the termination cause was something significant like violence or embezzlement or something of that nature) in terms of giving a reason for separation. It is nice of them that they won't challenge your unemployment though.

 

Good luck with your job search. Hope you're able to get what you are looking for. Also, I know I'm a random stranger  :D but I'd totally be willing to help if you need help with your resume or looking for a job or something. PM me about it if you want....or not....it's all good either way  ;)

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As someone who works in HR, I would advise against mentioning that your previous job was bad for your mental health. Even if it's true, most employers are going to take it as you not being able to multi-task or handle deadlines well. Most good jobs are going to be stressful or have pressure associated with them....so right off the bat, notifying a prospective employer about something like that kind of sends a red flag in terms of future prospects.

 

Additionally, most employers have a "neutral reference" policy. They aren't really doing anything special for you there. Most companies just do a simple employment verification in terms of dates of employment, job title and salary. There is too much defamation liability involved (unless the termination cause was something significant like violence or embezzlement or something of that nature) in terms of giving a reason for separation. It is nice of them that they won't challenge your unemployment though.

 

Good luck with your job search. Hope you're able to get what you are looking for. Also, I know I'm a random stranger  :D but I'd totally be willing to help if you need help with your resume or looking for a job or something. PM me about it if you want....or not....it's all good either way  ;)

 

So then what do I say? <_< I'd like to avoid saying I was terminated if possible.

 

I know, I just mean they won't say anything negative :P

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So then what do I say? <_< I'd like to avoid saying I was terminated if possible.

 

I know, I just mean they won't say anything negative :P

 

Yeah I would never ever disclose that you were terminated. Your employer is not going to tell them that you were terminated and unless your references screw up, there should be no way for them to know you were fired.

 

Ninety-nine percent of employers are just going to ask why you are no longer with your most recent employer. You can just say something along the lines of  "I was looking for a new opportunity that would allow me to grow professionally" or if the commute is closer that you were looking for something a bit closer to home or something along those lines. I'm not really sure I can give you specifics since I don't know what you do or your circumstances.

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Well if your not a CNA (certified nurse assistant) that is a pretty hands on job. Plenty of jobs out their as well. It can be pretty stressful though so I'm not sure if its a good fit. I work as an RN so I'm used to working with CNA in a high stress environment.

 

I've thought about trying to become an STNA but yeah that can be pretty stressful. But it would be very hands on.

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Yeah I would never ever disclose that you were terminated. Your employer is not going to tell them that you were terminated and unless your references screw up, there should be no way for them to know you were fired.

 

Ninety-nine percent of employers are just going to ask why you are no longer with your most recent employer. You can just say something along the lines of  "I was looking for a new opportunity that would allow me to grow professionally" or if the commute is closer that you were looking for something a bit closer to home or something along those lines. I'm not really sure I can give you specifics since I don't know what you do or your circumstances.

 

But then how do I explain the gap in employment?

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Yeah I concur. I was fired once for something really stupid (a facebook post in 2010). In any case when I applied for a job I just never mentioned that "other" job since I was working somewhere else concurrently so I never had a gap in my employment record.  When I applied for a job out of college I got a job pretty quick and have been gainfully employed at my same job for 6 years now. In my resume I just don't put that other job. No problems thus far. When I finish my masters next year I'm still not mentioning that other job when I apply for a job related to my new degree.

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But then how do I explain the gap in employment?

 

There is really no getting around that. The best you can really do, in terms of justifying it, is just kind of explaining that the position that you were in prior was really no longer the right fit for you and that you wanted to move on and wanted to fully focus on finding something better. A little phony, sure....but it's better than saying you were fired for whatever the reason was. Although, depending on the interviewer....sometimes you can just be pretty frank and let them know the real story (it all depends on the situation and person you are dealing with).

 

If you nail the interview though and have good qualifications and experience....focusing in on why you are currently unemployed should be an after-thought though (well depending on the length of unemployment anyways).

 

I would take all that I'm saying with a grain of salt...cause I'm really coming at it from the other side of the table and I've never been in your specific situation, so it is a bit of conjecture on my part.

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If your in college you can say you took a break to further your studies?? I suppose if its a really big gap like years that might pose a problem though if your not in college.

 

Out of college since May 2015 and up until now have been working ever since (save for a month I took off after a summer camp job)

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Tough spot. Just do what Lacks said and if it still comes up probably being honest is best. You don't have to be 100% honest I suppose. I mean in the end we are not all perfect. You may have to apply to multiple places. Eventually one will bite. Don't apply to your #1 place, kinda get yourself out there and apply at many places.

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I got fired  :| (Excuse me. Terminated.)

 

I honestly didn't expect to feel this...not sad? Like yeah it sucks and the idea of not making money terrifies me. Like really terrifies me. But like. I feel more relieved than anything tbh. I've hated that job for awhile and it was really starting to take a toll on me and my mental health (which, whowouldathunk, made my job performance suffer even more). Now I can focus more on looking for a new job full time and can more freely schedule interviews.

 

Plus HR did say I should be eligible for unemployment and they can still provide me with a "neutral reference" if I put them on a resume and can't disclose that I was terminated so I can fudge a bit if employers ask why I don't work there (i.e. Bring up the part about the job being bad for my mental health but leave out the part where I was terminated). Didn't even bother to ask my direct supervisor if I could use him as a reference but there's a worker at one of our other sites who I have a really good relationship whose number I got before I had to turn in my work phone. Might give her a call soon.

welcome to the club Athena we've got Jackets

 

seriously though sorry :(

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Off topic: I have always wondered how HR people interview other HR people? I mean ya'll went to the same type of program and know the same tricks and things to look for. I just have always wondered that .

 

It's just like any other interview really. Maybe that's a little naive for me to say cause yeah, I may know more interview nuances than the average person but to me interviews aren't really about tricks or anything like that. You just have to be able to convey your experience and qualifications in a clear manner and if that lines up in terms of the functions they are advertising for....then it should work out. Though I will admit that sometimes the delivery part can be tricky cause you can get nervous or worry about what you should and shouldn't say but just like with anything, if you practice enough, you should get better at it.

 

The only thing I will mention is that generally if it's like an HR Manager position or Finance Director position or you know one of these auxiliary department head positions that you're applying for you-more-often-than-not end up interviewing with like CEOs or COOs. I think maybe like 5-10% of the interviews I've ever been on have been with another HR person. It's pretty funny cause while most of the time they are pretty knowledgeable about their job and/or industry, they may not be that well-versed in HR stuff. Like recently, I went on an interview and was meeting with this CEO and we were talking about travel in relation to the position I was interviewing for and he was like "Oh, do you have kids? Cause this position does require you to travel quite frequently" or like this other time where this branch manager was telling me about how he and his previous HR Manager would disagree quite often because he was like "I just want to hire these Hispanic workers because they work harder than such and such other people". So it's just stuff like that ends up sticking out to you more than anything else  :D

 

 

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Haha yeah that is pretty interesting. But what you said makes sense. I have 2 friends in HR and I always wondered about their interviews but I suppose they wouldn't be to different from any other. Its how you present yourself, your story and why are you interested in this position. In my job they have us do panel interviews so sometimes I am part of the interview process. I kinda don't like doing it but sometimes I get "volun-told" to be part of it. I think I am a pretty laid back guy and as long as your qualified and have a good attitude then its all good to me. I find those pre-interveiw screeners (where you answer 100 questions with answers "do you agree", "somewhat agree" and "disagree") as kinda pointless cause one can put whatever they want. Talking to people is when you learn alot about them.

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The idea of Lacks being a HR person kind of scares me. Although it gives the screen name a whole new dimension.

 

I say that as someone who's been dragged into dealing with HR crap at my company by virtue of having a brain that can think critically and somehow being able to refrain from calling people dramallamas and telling them to grow the hell up.

 

Like recently, I went on an interview and was meeting with this CEO and we were talking about travel in relation to the position I was interviewing for and he was like "Oh, do you have kids? Cause this position does require you to travel quite frequently" or like this other time where this branch manager was telling me about how he and his previous HR Manager would disagree quite often because he was like "I just want to hire these Hispanic workers because they work harder than such and such other people".

 

Oh lawd. Someone skipped the first day of Things You Don't Say in Interviews class...

 

 

I hope things work out for you, Athena. At least knowing what field you want to be employed in should give you some options you can pursue.

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I got fired  :| (Excuse me. Terminated.)

 

I honestly didn't expect to feel this...not sad? Like yeah it sucks and the idea of not making money terrifies me. Like really terrifies me. But like. I feel more relieved than anything tbh. I've hated that job for awhile and it was really starting to take a toll on me and my mental health (which, whowouldathunk, made my job performance suffer even more). Now I can focus more on looking for a new job full time and can more freely schedule interviews.

 

Plus HR did say I should be eligible for unemployment and they can still provide me with a "neutral reference" if I put them on a resume and can't disclose that I was terminated so I can fudge a bit if employers ask why I don't work there (i.e. Bring up the part about the job being bad for my mental health but leave out the part where I was terminated). Didn't even bother to ask my direct supervisor if I could use him as a reference but there's a worker at one of our other sites who I have a really good relationship whose number I got before I had to turn in my work phone. Might give her a call soon.

 

aint that a bitch? I wish you a speedy employment

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The idea of Lacks being a HR person kind of scares me. Although it gives the screen name a whole new dimension.

 

I say that as someone who's been dragged into dealing with HR crap at my company by virtue of having a brain that can think critically and somehow being able to refrain from calling people dramallamas and telling them to grow the hell up.

 

Oh lawd. Someone skipped the first day of Things You Don't Say in Interviews class...

 

 

I hope things work out for you, Athena. At least knowing what field you want to be employed in should give you some options you can pursue.

 

:D :D :D

 

That's only cause you're familiar with the old Lacks on ASMB. Hah, I don't blame you at all.

 

Still a lot has happened since 2005, Cille! Sheesh, people can change  :P

 

Besides....I try to keep my professional, personal and board personas separate. This thread was one of the few instances where "I kept it real."

 

I'll just stick with posting random youtube clips and .gifs I guess  :P:D

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There have been many times I've wanted to respond to a HR situation with one or more relevant anime memes.

 

LOL, what's the big deal in using memes at work? I use them all the time. I used this one in a email a little while ago with one of the Directors at our company. I think it was in relation to hoping that some meeting we were all dreading getting cancelled or something  :D

 

so+you're+telling+me+there's+a+chance.jpg

 

I don't know....I'm just a firm believer that no matter what kind of work you do, you should try to make it as fun as possible. Obviously within the scope of the job and company.

 

But yeah....I get why you and a lot of other people have disdain for HR. I mean usually when you get called into HR, it's never really good (though people do often come to me when they are having issues, so I do feel like 30% of my job is being a counselor  :D).

 

The job itself is pretty fun though....you get to meet and deal with all kinds of different people. That can be bad....like that one time I had to have a meeting with this lady who had BO and everyone was complaining about her.....one of the most awkward and strange conversations I've ever had to have. And it can be good....like going through a bunch of resumes and seeing someone list "increased personal revenue by 175% between 2014 and 2015 through various poker tournaments" or "proud owner of 2 guns" on their resume. It's just interesting lol.

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But yeah....I get why you and a lot of other people have disdain for HR. I mean usually when you get called into HR, it's never really good (though people do often come to me when they are having issues, so I do feel like 30% of my job is being a counselor  :D).

 

Well I'm almost always the one having to deal with the HR issues because we don't have a real HR person in our (rather small) company. That's most of what I've been doing the last two weeks because apparently everything needed to go to hell all at once. Things like mediating between middle-aged women having a middle-school rivalry and doing damage control after the boss makes a stupid decision (after I had to explain why it was stupid and convince him to change his mind). And establishing myself as the go-to person if anybody in the shop has issues that they don't want to talk to their supervisor about. And playing wingman for some layoffs. I mean I guess it's interesting, but I wouldn't call it very much fun. Maybe I do need to use more memes, although most of them would involve making fun of people, so I dunno.

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Well I'm almost always the one having to deal with the HR issues because we don't have a real HR person in our (rather small) company. That's most of what I've been doing the last two weeks because apparently everything needed to go to hell all at once. Things like mediating between middle-aged women having a middle-school rivalry and doing damage control after the boss makes a stupid decision (after I had to explain why it was stupid and convince him to change his mind). And establishing myself as the go-to person if anybody in the shop has issues that they don't want to talk to their supervisor about. And playing wingman for some layoffs. I mean I guess it's interesting, but I wouldn't call it very much fun. Maybe I do need to use more memes, although most of them would involve making fun of people, so I dunno.

 

Hah, how is that not fun?  :D It's like uhhhhhh no you can't do that because it's against the law or yes....that's a brilliant idea for getting us sued. I mean fortunately our CEO can be pretty paranoid about some stuff, so I don't have to do too much of that with him but there are some people on our senior management team who do this kinda stuff sometimes and it literally makes me want to get up and spray them with a water hose or something.

 

I don't know....I guess my idea of fun differs. I feel like I was built for this job because most of the time I'm pretty laid back and can be a good listener, so that's good for this type of work. But since I'm from the northeast I tend to be a little confrontational at times....so things like firing people or taking away vacation days or stuff like that never really bothers me. It's probably one of the things I enjoy most about my job. My friends always tell me how sadistic I am when I say stuff like that but it's like if you do the right things you get rewarded...if you don't....there are consequences....that's just life. Still it's pretty atypical I guess, cause I've literally seen some other HR people turn red or shake when they have to fire someone or do UE hearings. So perhaps I'm a little more cold blooded than most.  :D

 

Anyways, good luck....let me know if you need some help filtering out your memes or some other HR stuff  :D

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Hey I'm from the northeast too and I generally hate confrontation. I don't even bother with internet dramu anymore. But being rational and fair and not easily swayed by one-sided emotional arguments also makes me about the best candidate we have for dealing with HR issues. Which is why I'm doing it now. :D Until very recently I was in more of a shadow advisor role which I liked because I could tell the boss what I thought and then I wasn't the one who had to do something about it. Of course it's not so great when he just goes and does what he wants anyway even if I know it's a bad idea. But whatever, baby steps and stuff.

 

Hey I have this in my Photobucket and it seems relevant here considering this thread is supposed to be about Athena and her job. Is this meme even still a thing? Well whatever, #YOLO #swag #2005 #hotanimemendrawnbadly #lolthatlasthashtaghadthewordmemeinitunintentionally

 

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That picture is more than relevant and quite frankly when you have two old-school ADers conversing in the same thread....such derailment was the inevitable outcome  :D

 

I don't feel too guilty though because I did give some legit advice beforehand....so yeah.

 

Anyways, since you brought up Photobucket....I found myself reminiscing and opened up mine for the first time in like 3-4 years (I'm surprised it wasn't deactivated or something). I found some gems but I'll just leave this here since the only thing that's missing from this thread is a random football argument. This was from that time I won a football bet against OMNI and he had to change his avatar for like a week. Maaaaaan, those were the good ol' days!  :D

 

OMNIbet.jpg

 

All this nostalgia has made me sad  :( I really miss AD and a lot of the posters from back then.

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First, I'm happy you got out of that job. It sucks you got terminated, but a shitty job is a shitty job. I know how you feel with a job that is slowly taking your soul (I worked at Fry's Electronics for several years), so I can attest to your relief at being terminated.

The great thing here is now you have a completely free schedule to do what YOU want to do. Take advantage of that for a few days. It will do you a world of good.  Just a few, though. Because you'll need to update your résumé and get down to job hunt after.

I'd also take advantage of your health benefits before those expire or are revoked, too. Get new contacts/glasses, teeth whitening, full body scans, the works. There's nothing sweeter than bilking a few extra dollars out of the place you hated while you're no longer there.

I wish you luck in the future with a new endeavor. If you're around, drinks will be on me.

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Well if we're spamming the thread with nostalgia screencaps making fun of OMNI...

 

omnizmammaizfattlol.jpg

 

Wait apparently you can't click on it to see it full-size so here's an old-school link. Which you'll still probably have to zoom in on because Photobucket is ass now.

 

:D Classic

 

What the heck ever happened to OMNI? I disappeared for a little while off the boards and when I came back like everyone was gone. I refuse to believe every single one of them got a life << >>

 

OMNI, Spice, lithium, Orochi, Maenos. I mean these were all people who posted A LOT. I know some ADers on Facebook but I wish I would have connected with some of these other folk before they vanished.

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