Lawliet720 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 6:46 PM, elfie said: Dandy seems more polarizing now than when it premiered. Jacob Chapman even wrote a whole article about how the directors now regret making it, which is heartbreaking. Source??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Fine. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2018-03-07/why-wasnt-space-dandy-the-next-cowboy-bebop/.128664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 No change, but I didn't expect one yet. Hopefully AOT will shake things up when it arrives in 2-1/2 weeks. At least Pop Team Epic, JoJo, and Hunter x Hunter all trended on Twitter. That's another metric that Turner uses when determining the value of shows, and Toonami used to have it in spades but occasionally still does alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Yeah, Flop Team Epic and Jojo both kind of shit the mattress and room and everything else, but look at DBS. Seriously, up against Live PD and Shark week, and still getting a huge share in key demo is great. It says that there is a market for the right kind of animu, the key is to find enough of those shows, instead of vanity projects like FLCL Regressive or terrible niche shows like Flop Tim Eric. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Ginguy said: Yeah, Flop Team Epic and Jojo both kind of shit the mattress and room and everything else, but look at DBS. Seriously, up against Live PD and Shark week, and still getting a huge share in key demo is great. It says that there is a market for the right kind of animu, the key is to find enough of those shows, instead of vanity projects like FLCL Regressive or terrible niche shows like Flop Tim Eric. Don’t compare Flop Team to Tim and Eric. Tim and Eric are successful. Yeah, Dragonball wins the night and Flop Team royally shits the bed. Edited July 31, 2018 by Jman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) You can't say PPTP did badly when we don't know how well My Zero Academia's retention was. Honestly, I'm surprised this thread hasn't been flooded with snide comments about that show; Jman said he didn't like it, and there were also complaints about a betrayal of its premise. You guys can't even be consistent with scapegoating. [this is not funny] Edited July 31, 2018 by Blatch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) "My Zero Academia!?" LOL! With regard to Dragon Ball Super weeknight ratings, Friday's now available, and it WAS pretty bad, but at LEAST it beat the Cleveland Show in 18-34 and 25-54: http://programminginsider.com/friday-final-ratings-telemundo-in-virtual-tie-for-adults-18-49-prime-time-lead-and-tops-adults-18-34-outright/ Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.)• 0.386 million viewers (#74)• 0.24 HH (#73)• 0.13 A18-49 (#74)• 0.17 A18-34 (#23)• 0.11 A25-54 (#97) The Cleveland Show (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.)• 0.396 million viewers (#73)• 0.25 HH (#72)• 0.13 A18-49 (#74)• 0.15 A18-34 (#40)• 0.10 A25-54 (#99) With this, 4 weeks worth of ratings are in the books, and here's the most recent week, plus the weekly averages and averages per day of the week: Dragon Ball Super Recent Week's Weeknight Ratings Date Ep Viewers HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 7/23/2018 #16 393,000 0.25 0.14 0.19 0.12 7/24/2018 #17 427,000 0.26 0.17 0.21 0.16 7/25/2018 #18 434,000 0.26 0.17 0.20 0.15 7/26/2018 #19 466,000 0.28 0.14 0.16 0.13 7/27/2018 #20 386,000 0.24 0.13 0.17 0.11 Dragon Ball Super M-F Weekly Avgs Wk P2+ HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 #1 453,800 0.283 0.150 0.173 0.143 #2 456,000 0.288 0.174 0.216 0.148 #3 438,800 0.264 0.152 0.184 0.132 #4 421,200 0.258 0.150 0.186 0.134 Dragon Ball Super Day-Of-Week Averages Day of Week P2+ HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 MON 423,250 0.260 0.148 0.183 0.128 TUE 435,250 0.270 0.163 0.195 0.140 WED 429,000 0.270 0.155 0.185 0.135 THU 445,750 0.283 0.150 0.193 0.140 FRI 479,000 0.283 0.168 0.198 0.153 Despite last Friday being the worst day of that week in every category except 18-34, on average Friday is still best in every category, and Monday is still worst. Edited July 31, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I could go all in on Not!One Punch Man but do I really need to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 42 minutes ago, Blatch said: [this is not funny] SILLY BLATCH, EVERYTHING IS FUNNY!!! 7/28/18 - Total Viewers Show Viewers Retention DBS 782,000 #DIV/0! MHA 564,000 72.12% FLCL2 464,000 82.27% PTE 373,000 80.39% JoJo 356,000 95.44% HxH 343,000 96.35% B. Clover 334,000 97.38% Shippuden 314,000 94.01% Dandy 298,000 94.90% Bebop 296,000 99.33% Lupin 288,000 97.30% AVERAGE 401,091 28th of 30 7/28/18 - Adults 18-49 Show Total Viewers Adults 18-49 DBS 469,000 MHA 346,000 73.77% FLCL2 271,000 78.32% PTE 219,000 80.81% JoJo 216,000 98.63% HxH 216,000 100.00% B. Clover 203,000 93.98% Shippuden 185,000 91.13% Dandy 176,000 95.14% Bebop 166,000 94.32% Lupin 172,000 103.61% AVERAGE 239,909 28th of 30 Eh, I've seen worse! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Lookit that neatly organized rainbow! Green to red! Aaaaah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Too much red on the right is no Bueno. MHA better start retaining a little better once we get into Season 2. Of course I expect FLCL and PTE to drop the ball though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 Okay, so me watching Toonami live tanked its ratings bad enough several times already, but me skipping it altogether one week made it tank even worse now? I'm starting to think Toonami's gonna die no matter what my watching patterns are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) Toonami ain't dying; in fact it's growing. Don'tcha know it's gaining 10 PM soon? And I'm hoping when it does, the numbers turn a corner and improve at least a LITTLE! Also... http://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-fox-wins-broadcast-demos-despite-ufc-dropping-to-its-record-network-low-in-viewers/ Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.856 million viewers (#26) • 0.61 HH (#22) • 0.38 A18-49 (#5) • 0.50 A18-34 (#2) • 0.35 A25-54 (#13) Dragon Ball Super (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.782 million viewers (#32) • 0.56 HH (#25) • 0.36 A18-49 (#6) • 0.47 A18-34 (#3) • 0.36 A25-54 (#12) So Dragon Ball Super beat Family Guy in 25-54 of all things! At least that's SOMETHING! And as for Monday, pretty sure it was supposed to be the 30th... Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.402 million viewers (#90) • 0.25 HH (#90) • 0.15 A18-49 (#70) • 0.18 A18-34 (#32) • 0.14 A25-54 (#87) http://programminginsider.com/monday-final-ratings-nbc-and-abc-share-summer-prime-time-leadership/ Edited August 1, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Sorry, Dragon Ball Super, but your weeknight ratings are shit! http://programminginsider.com/tuesday-final-ratings-nbc-continues-tuesday-winning-streak-on-night-of-making-it-premiere/ Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.382 million viewers (#86) • 0.26 HH (#82) • 0.15 A18-49 (#77) • 0.17 A18-34 (#33) • 0.13 A25-54 (#90) http://programminginsider.com/wednesday-final-ratings-the-originals-on-cw-reaches-12-week-high-in-livesame-day-viewers-with-series-finale-telecast/ Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.425 million viewers (#82) • 0.28 HH (#79) • 0.15 A18-49 (#77) • 0.16 A18-34 (#47) • 0.14 A25-54 (#89) At least 18-34 is consistently in the Top 50. Hopefully that's good enough to keep this experiment going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Well objectively speaking.. it's an awful awful show. It's still in the movie recap arcs and it's just as bad as I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Daos said: Well objectively speaking.. it's an awful awful show. It's still in the movie recap arcs and it's just as bad as I remember. It's no worse than DBZ proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I am getting a kick out of ADR director Cris George responding to haters on Twitter with just happy trolling. "I HATE THIS!" "Thank yooooo! <3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Top Gun said: It's no worse than DBZ proper. Eh I'd disagree with that. DBZ had its problems but it actually had excitement, interesting characters and a lot of great moments. The first 110 episodes of Super has none of that. The difference between the two may seem a bit nuanced and hard to discern to someone who isn't a DBZ fan but as a DBZ fan there's definitely a difference. You can actually see a huge difference in Super in the first 110 episodes, and the last 25 episodes where they actually spent their time, effort and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Most of the DB fans I've seen seem to think the Universe Survival arc has the same problems as the rest of the show, and in some ways, they're doubled down on. On the other hand, at least the last few episodes of it are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, Blatch said: Most of the DB fans I've seen seem to think the Universe Survival arc has the same problems as the rest of the show, and in some ways, they're doubled down on. On the other hand, at least the last few episodes of it are great. What, bad story.... bad power scaling.... bad character development, no stakes? Yeah it still has all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) http://programminginsider.com/thursday-final-ratings-the-four-on-fox-reaches-summer-highs-in-second-cycle-finale/ Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.403 million viewers (#82) • 0.28 HH (#74) • 0.15 A18-49 (#75) • 0.18 A18-34 (#31) • 0.14 A25-54 (#88) American Dad (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.390 million viewers (#83) • 0.28 HH (#74) • 0.16 A18-49 (#67) • 0.18 A18-34 (#31) • 0.15 A25-54 (#84) Beat it in total viewers; tied in HH and 18-34. Pretty good! Edited August 7, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) Note: this is from 7/28, not 8/4. http://programminginsider.com/live3-weekly-ratings-yellowstone-elementary-and-shades-of-blue-among-the-top-scripted-gainers/ Dragon Ball Super (ADSM, Sat., 7/28/18 10:30 PM) • Live+Same Day: 0.783 million viewers / 0.470 million adults 18-49 (0.36 adults 18-49 rating) • Live+3 Day: 1.031 million viewers (+0.248M; +31.67%) / 0.622 million adults 18-49 (0.48 adults 18-49 rating) (+0.152M; +0.12 rating; +32.34%) At least Super keeps doing over a million in Live+3. Hopefully we'll also be able to see how MHA does in Live+3 very soon! WAIT, THIS JUST IN!!! http://programminginsider.com/friday-final-ratings-tko-on-cbs-wins-low-rated-8-p-m-hour-on-its-new-night/ Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.467 million viewers (#72) • 0.29 HH (#72) • 0.19 A18-49 (#38) • 0.20 A18-34 (#14) • 0.18 A25-54 (#61) The Cleveland Show (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.489 million viewers (#70) • 0.30 HH (#70) • 0.20 A18-49 (#33) • 0.24 A18-34 (#9) • 0.21 A25-54 (#53) Super couldn't beat Cleveland, but Friday's episode still won the week in every category: Dragon Ball Super Recent Week's Weeknight Ratings Week 5 Ep Viewers HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 7/30/2018 #21 402,000 0.25 0.15 0.18 0.14 7/31/2018 #22 382,000 0.26 0.15 0.17 0.13 8/1/2018 #23 425,000 0.28 0.15 0.16 0.14 8/2/2018 #24 403,000 0.28 0.15 0.18 0.14 8/3/2018 #25 467,000 0.29 0.19 0.20 0.18 And of course this continued Friday's dominance of the overall best day week on average: Dragon Ball Super Day-Of-Week Averages Day of Week P2+ HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 MON 419,000 0.258 0.148 0.182 0.130 TUE 424,600 0.268 0.160 0.190 0.138 WED 428,200 0.272 0.154 0.180 0.136 THU 437,200 0.283 0.150 0.190 0.140 FRI 476,600 0.284 0.172 0.198 0.158 While week 5 was the weakest week so far in terms of total viewers, it actually came in 2nd so far in Adults 18-49 and 25-54: Dragon Ball Super M-F Weekly Avgs Wk P2+ HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 #1 453,800 0.283 0.150 0.173 0.143 #2 456,000 0.288 0.174 0.216 0.148 #3 438,800 0.264 0.152 0.184 0.132 #4 421,200 0.258 0.150 0.186 0.134 #5 415,800 0.272 0.158 0.178 0.146 A bit of a weaker week for Super in 18-34, but it's still doing pretty good. Week 2 is the only week it was actually advertised, however, and in fact even got a new Beerus arc promo! No sign of the repurposed generic but mostly Frieza arc promo during the show, but it COULD be airing elsewhere on [as]! Finally, here are the ranks of the most recent week: Weeknight Ratings Rank (Across ALL Primetime Cable) Week 5 Ep # Viewers HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 7/30/2018 21 #90 #90 #70 #32 #87 7/31/2018 22 #86 #82 #77 #33 #90 8/1/2018 23 #82 #79 #77 #47 #89 8/2/2018 24 #82 #74 #75 #31 #88 8/3/2018 25 #72 #72 #38 #14 #61 Not much more to add, just that Friday was also best among its own programming. And despite being weaker in 18-34, it's still Top 50 consistently. Edited August 7, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) The ratings for DBS, PTE, and JoJo are in, and you know how they say it's gonna get worse before it gets better? Definitely applies here, as we've hit a scary new low, folks. Brace yourselves: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-8-4-2018.html Ok, so I realize that at this point there's probably more people watching Toonami using the Adult Swim app on Roku, Fire TV, and the like than there are watching traditional cable or satellite, but COME ON! Only 295K at 12:30 on Saturday night? Remember what Akame ga KILL!! debuted at almost exactly 3 years ago today? Only OVER SIX TIMES as many viewers (1822K). I'm sure its total viewership even counting Live+SD watchers on the app can't be anywhere near that! Here's a blast from the past in case you wanna see: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-100-saturday-cable-originals-8-8-2015.html Ah, those were the days. But at least JoJo retained well from Pop Team Epic, or did it? It lost a considerable number of viewers in adults 18-34 and I believe posted the lowest 18-34 number yet for a Toonami show, but as long as it's on a par with Dragon Ball Super's fledgling weeknight run I guess that's still pretty good. Speaking of Super, it won the night in 18-34 and Men 12-24, even knocking off the juggernaught Live PD, so good for Goku and friends! But we'll see if that holds up once MHA Season 2 takes the spotlight (and we probably STILL annoyingly don't get to find out how well it's doing on this chart, but I believe Programming Insider will have us covered). Edited August 7, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Remember when that amount was enough to get One Piece off the air? Now it results on Toonami growing in length. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 Shit Toonami, get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, elfie said: Remember when that amount was enough to get One Piece off the air? Now it results on Toonami growing in length. They went into why that was the case on the Toonami Faithful Podcast recently. It was basically the Star Wars of Japan, and was priced internationally as such. Somehow, they managed to get Viz to keep expectations low for JoJo. But I'd say MHA and AOT are in the DBS tier, as is evidenced primarily by the presence of topicals (AOT hasn't had them yet for the new season but it got them in the past, even at 12:30, so there's no reason to believe it won't at 11.) In fact, in September, we'll most likely have 5 Toonami shows with topicals airing on Adult Swim: MHA (:30); DBS (:30); AOT (:30); FLCL3 (:15); and PTE (:15). JoJo: DiU will likely be the first show on the block WITHOUT them, but they may yet surprise us... Edited August 7, 2018 by OwlChemist81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, OwlChemist81 said: Remember what Akame ga KILL!! debuted at almost exactly 3 years ago today? Only OVER SIX TIMES as many viewers (1822K). Screw off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I wouldn’t say they are watching live on the app and it’s overtaking the television, I think it’s just not people wanting to watch live at all and DVRs are becoming more prevelant, at least for the premieres. You don’t see a drop off much for the reruns because those are actually the people staying on live. Personally, I seldom can watch live and will actually watch the entire recorded block on Sunday night/Monday morning due to my work schedule. Sometimes I’m still watching the previous weeks block on Saturday morning. Cable has declined, but live viewership for those who do have cable has also taken a huge hit because it’s just not as necessary or convenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Blatch said: Screw off. Whatever. The point I was trying to make is that even if twice as many people were watching these episodes online instead of on TV, it still wouldn't hold a candle to what shows were able to do following the venerable Frieza arc of DBZ Kai. Doesn't change the fact that quality-wise those shows are way inferior to what's airing right now, with the exceptions maybe of Kill la Kill and Parasyte. SURPRISE!! THINGS GOT BETTER AFTER JOJO! But guess what show came in 3rd in 18-49... PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000) 10:30 Dragon Ball Super 722 0.36 469 11:00 My Hero Academia (r) 504 0.23 302 11:30 FLCL: Progressive (r) 376 0.16 209 12:00a Pop Team Epic 305 0.15 194 12:30a Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 295 0.14 182 1:00a Hunter X Hunter (r) 310 0.15 197 1:30a Black Clover (r) 327 0.17 216 2:00a Naruto: Shippuden (r) 306 0.16 202 2:30a Space Dandy (r) 248 0.13 167 3:00a Cowboy Bebop (r) 236 0.12 161 3:30a Lupin the 3rd: Part 4 (r) 226 0.12 158 8/4/18 - Total Viewers Show Viewers Retention DBS 722,000 #DIV/0! MHA 504,000 69.81% FLCL2 376,000 74.60% PTE 305,000 81.12% JoJo 295,000 96.72% HxH 310,000 105.08% B. Clover 327,000 105.48% Shippuden 306,000 93.58% Dandy 248,000 81.05% Bebop 236,000 95.16% Lupin 226,000 95.76% AVERAGE 350,455 31st of 31 8/4/18 - Adults 18-49 Show Total Viewers Adults 18-49 DBS 469,000 MHA 302,000 64.39% FLCL2 209,000 69.21% PTE 194,000 92.82% JoJo 182,000 93.81% HxH 197,000 108.24% B. Clover 216,000 109.64% Shippuden 202,000 93.52% Dandy 167,000 82.67% Bebop 161,000 96.41% Lupin 158,000 98.14% AVERAGE 223,364 31st of 31 Wow, 350K and under 225K 18-49 is really really low. If you had told me 2 years ago that Toonami would do these kinds of numbers and then expand to 10 PM, I'd wonder what the hell you were smoking. But, here we are! Edited August 7, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Worst ratings ever.. we did it guys! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) They pulled Black Clover too early. The screamy nonsense beginning was bad, but the series has gotten steadily better. The same will happen with Boruto btw, as the beginning is just a rehash of the Naruto Chunin exam arc, literally. It is generally not that great a series to begin with, wasted time slot and money if you ask me. Otherwise, Flop Tim Eric did do well in key demo, as did Jojo, in terms of share. You have to figure MHA did at least as well, since the night had the usual slow arc. Of course, the show selection is kind of weak outside of DBS. It might be time to consider retiring Toonami to the streams for a year or two, at least until there is a better offering in terms of content. Edit: Oh, remember guys, ratings don't matter. Edited August 8, 2018 by Ginguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 BC beating the 3 shows before it, and 4 in the key demos.....another day I never thought I'd see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 That's our Chad Shonen Hero for ya. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameakooo Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 hxh with the gains pretty much every week give or take. makes me wonder how it would do in an earlier slot but that's probably a pipe dream 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Daos said: Worst ratings ever.. we did it guys! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Holy shit did they just call Uraraka a fat gold digger? Those are fightin words 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, ameakooo said: hxh with the gains pretty much every week give or take. makes me wonder how it would do in an earlier slot but that's probably a pipe dream Yeah but its getting beaten in the key demo by the two shows after it, so why wouldn't they just move those up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Oh, so now Black Clover is suddenly beating the shows before it. When does it get moved back up to 11:30? 8 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said: Whatever. The point I was trying to make is that even if twice as many people were watching these episodes online instead of on TV, it still wouldn't hold a candle to what shows were able to do following the venerable Frieza arc of DBZ Kai. Doesn't change the fact that quality-wise those shows are way inferior to what's airing right now, with the exceptions maybe of Kill la Kill and Parasyte. Pretty much all of TV was doing better back then, on top of you cherry-picking the absolute best date. But, honestly, I've become really annoyed at the idea of anyone having a near-encyclopedic knowledge of Toonami history, which is needed largely because we have so much bantering about the Toonami shows and what's going to be replaced by anything else, in addition to ratings banner that borders on insanity. Pretty much the only way you could've made that post more annoying was openly wondering if Toonami should play another David Gilmour music video to boost ratings. In addition, the fact that you appended the laughing reaction to a direct insult seems to indicate that you are completely incapable of being shamed. At least that's a valuable skill to have. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) Dude, what is your problem!? It ain't "cherry-picking" when it is exactly years ago to the day! I'm more baffled by this than anything. But it DOES indicate that the most important factor is share and not necessarily raw numbers. So how did Monday's DBS episode do? http://programminginsider.com/monday-final-ratings-better-call-saul-on-amc-returns-on-par-from-prior-season-among-total-viewers/ Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.449 million viewers (#78) • 0.28 HH (#78) • 0.15 A18-49 (#76) • 0.18 A18-34 (#36) • 0.15 A25-54 (#85) American Dad (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.403 million viewers (#82) • 0.25 HH (#82) • 0.15 A18-49 (#76) • 0.17 A18-34 (#40) • 0.15 A25-54 (#85) Best Monday number since Week 2, and yes, it either beat or tied all of its follow up American Dad's numbers! Edited August 8, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 "Hating anyone having a near-encyclopedic knowledge of Toonami history", huh? I hope to god you never listen to the Toonami Faithful Podcast then, or dare say you can't remember when DB Super first aired when on the Toonami Discord chat. Also you know OwlChemist has had this knack of talking about Toonami scheduling since forever, yet NOW you decide to complain? R you just having a bad week or something?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, otzeup said: Oh man, you know it's a legit link when it's randomly dropped into a cartoon forum and misspelled pharmacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Wait, what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, elfie said: Spam. Oh no, did that "Techmeds" user from the shithole that was the 2016 ASMB somehow follow us here!?! Tuesday's weeknight ratings are in, and though DBS couldn't beat American Dad, it still did pretty damn good: http://programminginsider.com/tuesday-final-ratings-castaways-debut-delivers-abcs-best-summer-tuesday-10-p-m-figures-in-two-years/ Dragon Ball Super (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.483 million viewers (#76) • 0.31 HH (#76) • 0.19 A18-49 (#55) • 0.21 A18-34 (#24) • 0.18 A25-54 (#70) American Dad (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.502 million viewers (#75) • 0.32 HH (#75) • 0.21 A18-49 (#50) • 0.22 A18-34 (#22) • 0.20 A25-54 (#62) It's still early, only 2 days in, but it's looking like Week 6 might just be DBS's best week yet: Dragon Ball Super M-F Weekly Avgs Wk P2+ HH 18-49 18-34 25-54 #1 453,800 0.283 0.150 0.173 0.143 #2 456,000 0.288 0.174 0.216 0.148 #3 438,800 0.264 0.152 0.184 0.132 #4 421,200 0.258 0.150 0.186 0.134 #5 415,800 0.272 0.158 0.178 0.146 #6 466,000 0.295 0.170 0.195 0.165 I'd say a lot of its success compared to Week 5 can be attributed to its lead-in. I don't know what it was for the first 5 weeks, but now it's We Bare Bears, and that seems to be working better. Either that, or people actually got into the twist at the end of the Frieza's Resurrection Saga...nope, gotta be the #Bearstack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Dunno it was "buy cialis online mastercard". Ooo I actually remember to catch DB Super on a weekday for once! 20 minutes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Join me at the discussion thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) On 8/8/2018 at 10:24 AM, elfie said: R you just having a bad week or something?? Most of America is having a bad week right now, and this happens all the time. I'm not doing so bad, though. One thing keeping me sane for right now is my belief that TOM should say "fuck Trump" on air, uncensored. Edited August 9, 2018 by Blatch That was overblown. I apologize. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Blatch said: Most of America is having a bad week right now, and this happens all the time. I'm not doing so bad, though. One thing keeping me sane for right now is my belief that TOM should say "fuck Trump" on air, uncensored. I think he's probably saving it for the show that airs on the first Saturday in November in 2020. Or when the Orange One decides to slap a 50% tariff on anime exports because he obsessively enjoys American Dad--that would probably do it. (Note: the latter scenario is highly unlikely.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said: Or when the Orange One decides to slap a 50% tariff on anime exports because he obsessively enjoys American Dad--that would probably do it. Oh, so he's completely unaware of the show's parody elements? Of course, those largely went away by... like, the third season, but regardless, that wouldn't be fun. Of course, I'm not sure if he watches much TV beyond Fox and Friends, plus whatever white nationalist-flavored propaganda they've been showing lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Cheeto Orangatan doesn't totally understand sarcasm and satire, so I fear he'll go after the nerds next any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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