Toonami Ratings Thread 2.0

[Mr Owl]

7 hours ago, Blatch said:

I already have the full chart, courtesy of ProgrammingInsider. It seems they've posted it almost as early, if not earlier than other sites.

"falls out of chair from laughing"

New premier does worse than flcl season 2

This is hilarious boruto beat it hell a filler beat it that's very sad "yes Shippuden is in a filler at the moment"

[Daos]

Yeah I mean..... you're running a show people already saw 2 years ago. You're never going to get huge ratings like that. It's a million times better than FLCL and Boruto but those are new at least, people will check them out.

I think the bigger news is despite the fact that AOT is fairly new, people are pretty much over it.

[Mr Owl]

40 minutes ago, Daos said:

Yeah I mean..... you're running a show people already saw 2 years ago. You're never going to get huge ratings like that. It's a million times better than FLCL and Boruto but those are new at least, people will check them out.

I think the bigger news is despite the fact that AOT is fairly new, people are pretty much over it.

Sad thing is boruto came out this year and got a dub that same year 

Flcl is old series even though it got a reboot not alot of people cared for it enough 

Aot3 that franchise pretty much lost its momentum

[Blatch]

11 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Man, I never thought I'd see the day when a silly filler episode of Naruto Shippuden got the 2nd-highest 18-49 ratings for the night, Boruto came in 3rd, and literally EVERYTHING else was under 200K.

You've started saying this every week the ratings come out. How come you can't you lower your expectations like everyone else?

[OwlChemist81]

11 hours ago, Blatch said:

You've started saying this every week the ratings come out. How come you can't you lower your expectations like everyone else?

What are you talking about? This is literally only the 2nd week it's happened! And Shippuden has NEVER been the #2 show before!

Edited October 31, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[Sketch]

On 10/30/2018 at 4:55 PM, Daos said:

Yeah I mean..... you're running a show people already saw 2 years ago. You're never going to get huge ratings like that. It's a million times better than FLCL and Boruto but those are new at least, people will check them out.

I think the bigger news is despite the fact that AOT is fairly new, people are pretty much over it.

People got tired of waiting for the anime and just read the manga until they even lost interest in that. I do think season 2 actually did decently for Toonami at the time despite losing plenty of viewers from DBZ Kai but season three is showing more apparent apathy.

[OwlChemist81]

Which is a shame, because I believe Season 3 to be a lot better than Season 2, since a lot of the show's biggest mysteries are actually being revealed, though to be fair most of them were HINTED at toward the end of Season 2. But the only thing Season 2 did really well was the Bertholdt/Reiner reveal.

ALSO:

PRE-TOONAMI CN
The Amazing World of Gumball (repeat) (TOON, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.509 million viewers (#63) • 0.30 HH (#63) • 0.16 A18-49 (#42) • 0.18 A18-34 (#21) • 0.13 A25-54 (#74)
The Amazing World of Gumball (repeat) (TOON, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.473 million viewers (#72) • 0.30 HH (#63) • 0.14 A18-49 (#56) • 0.16 A18-34 (#33) • 0.11 A25-54 (#91)

PRIMETIME TOONAMI
Dragon Ball Z Kai (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.408 million viewers (#87) • 0.28 HH (#76) • 0.15 A18-49 (#50) • 0.18 A18-34 (#21) • 0.12 A25-54 (#82)
My Hero Academia (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.437 million viewers (#77) • 0.30 HH (#63) • 0.15 A18-49 (#50) • 0.18 A18-34 (#21) • 0.11 A25-54 (#91)
Naruto: Shippuden (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.430 million viewers (#79) • 0.29 HH (#72) • 0.17 A18-49 (#37) • 0.20 A18-34 (#16) • 0.13 A25-54 (#74)
Boruto: Naruto Next Generations (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.421 million viewers (#82) • 0.30 HH (#63) • 0.16 A18-49 (#42) • 0.21 A18-34 (#14) • 0.13 A25-54 (#74)

Read more at: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-fox-with-world-series-game-four-more-than-triples-runner-up-abc-among-adults-18-49/

I'm not sure if Bo improved its PT 18-34 rank over last week, but that IS an improvement in that rating! EDIT: Yep, that IS an improvement.

It struggled to make the Top 20 last week--this week at #14! The current 2-hours-reconquered prime time rank peak is #12 by Boruto in Week 2, since we don't have uncompromised data for Week 1. Also, all PT shows improved in 18-34 except MHA, which declined somewhat.

Also, Toonami gets a movie lead-in tomorrow, and it's quite an interesting choice: Night At The Museum: Secret Of The Tomb. Not really sure what to make of this one; it's live action, right? If only CN could lead-into Toonami and [as] with superhero movies once again...

Edited November 2, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[Mr Owl]

Let's see if a filler beat a premiere again

[Daos]

You want ratings ya gotta give the people what they want. And what they want is... GOBLIN SLAYER! Number 1 in every state.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2018/11/05-1/crunchyrolls-most-popular-fall-2018-anime-by-state-province-country

[Lawliet720]

On 11/1/2018 at 11:09 PM, Sketch said:

People got tired of waiting for the anime and just read the manga until they even lost interest in that. I do think season 2 actually did decently for Toonami at the time despite losing plenty of viewers from DBZ Kai but season three is showing more apparent apathy.

Yup. Wit Studio pretty much fucked up in the management department and it shows, it's almost night & day compared to Bones' treatment towards MHA.

[Jman]

11 hours ago, Daos said:

You want ratings ya gotta give the people what they want. And what they want is... GOBLIN SLAYER! Number 1 in every state.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2018/11/05-1/crunchyrolls-most-popular-fall-2018-anime-by-state-province-country

I'm trying to remember the last time this happened.  Of course like a jackass I waited for the dub started before tackling it.  (First two episodes are up).

[OwlChemist81]

Mob improved, but backstory-heavy AOT took a pretty big hit:

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-3-2018.html

The only eligible Toonami show that didn't make the Top 50 is JoJo, coming in at #55 with an even 300K and a 0.12.

Edited November 6, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[OwlChemist81]

Well, look what we have here!

https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-five-year-viewer-high-for-alabama-lsu-rivalry-prime-time-game-on-cbs/

11/3/18 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	367,000
MHA	346,000	94.28%
Shippuden	381,000	110.12%
Boruto	376,000	98.69%
DBS	556,000	147.87%
MP100	341,000	61.33%
AOTS3	316,000	92.67%
JoJo4	300,000	94.94%
B. Clover	301,000	100.33%
H×H	293,000	97.34%
FLCL3	281,000	95.90%
Punchy	269,000	95.73%
Lupin	N/A	#VALUE!
Jack	N/A	#VALUE!
AVERAGE	343,917	41st of 44
11/3/18 - Adults 18-49
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	146,000
MHA	148,000	101.37%
Shippuden	184,000	124.32%
Boruto	190,000	103.26%
DBS	315,000	165.79%
MP100	180,000	57.14%
AOTS3	163,000	90.56%
JoJo4	156,000	95.71%
B. Clover	172,000	110.26%
H×H	189,000	109.88%
FLCL3	188,000	99.47%
Punchy	177,000	94.15%
Lupin	N/A	#VALUE!
Jack	N/A	#VALUE!
AVERAGE	184,000	42nd of 44

Granted, this time Lupin and Jack were unrated, but the slight upward trend continues, despite only DBS cracking 200K 18-49.

[PokeNirvash]

Oof, that Super to Mob retention.

[Mr Owl]

a filler kicked 2 premieres ass 

AoT and mob lost to a filler

 

LMFAO!!!

[OwlChemist81]

21 hours ago, Kuroko said:

a filler kicked 2 premieres ass 

AoT and mob lost to a filler

 

LMFAO!!!

People like ghost ships and stories involving giant crabs, I guess?

Night at The Museum: Secret of the Tomb (TOON, 7:00 PM, 120 min.) • 0.631 million viewers (#45) • 0.37 HH (#48) • 0.19 A18-49 (#29) • 0.17 A18-34 (#19) • 0.21 A25-54 (#42)
Dragon Ball Z Kai (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.367 million viewers (#85) • 0.26 HH (#75) • 0.11 A18-49 (#80) • 0.13 A18-34 (#36) • 0.12 A25-54 (#81)
My Hero Academia (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.346 million viewers (#86) • 0.25 HH (#79) • 0.12 A18-49 (#72) • 0.14 A18-34 (#30) • 0.10 A25-54 (#95)
Naruto: Shippuden (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.381 million viewers (#79) • 0.26 HH (#75) • 0.14 A18-49 (#56) • 0.17 A18-34 (#19) • 0.13 A25-54 (#71)
Boruto: Naruto Next Generation (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.376 million viewers (#80) • 0.26 HH (#75) • 0.15 A18-49 (#48) • 0.19 A18-34 (#16) • 0.13 A25-54 (#71)

Read more at: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-five-year-viewer-high-for-alabama-lsu-rivalry-prime-time-game-on-cbs/

Well, DBZ Kai dropped considerably from the movie, which beat all of Toonami primetime in households and adults 18-49/25-54, but was beaten by Boruto in 18-34. And of course Dragon Ball Super would go on to win the night in both 18-49 and 18-34, but the movie won in terms of total viewers. DBZ Kai did score the lowest number we've seen in Toonami primetime, a 0.13, estimated at a mere 88K adults 18-34, but that's what happens when you're a sacrificial lamb to Alabama at LSU.

Up next in the lead-in movie slot is Alvin & The Chipmunks 3: The Road Chip. This movie didn't do impressively when it premiered a month ago, so I don't expect much from it as a rerun.

 

Edited November 7, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[Daos]

Looks like Slime is the big thing in Japan, Goblin Slayer comes in third after SAO.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2018/11/07-1/ntt-docomo-research-fall-2018-tv-anime-popularity-ranking

[Daos]

So is anyone worried that Toonami won't even exist when Super is gone? Only 40 or so episodes left.

[The1gairon]

7 hours ago, Daos said:

So is anyone worried that Toonami won't even exist when Super is gone? Only 40 or so episodes left.

No.

[OwlChemist81]

8 hours ago, Daos said:

So is anyone worried that Toonami won't even exist when Super is gone? Only 40 or so episodes left.

I think it's actually 45. But still, nope. That's enough time to find another "hit."

Of course, they could always just double up Super and rerun it...

Edited November 8, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[The1gairon]

16 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

I think it's actually 45. But still, nope. That's enough time to find another "hit."

Of course, they could always just double up Super and rerun it...

Plus, you can't just look at only the ratings to determine what will keep the block afloat anymore.  Anything Dragonball is still the biggest hits, but I predict when htey stop airing them, ratings will totally flatline and soon it will be harder to judge which show is more special than others.

[Zenigundam]

On 11/8/2018 at 2:44 AM, Daos said:

So is anyone worried that Toonami won't even exist when Super is gone? Only 40 or so episodes left.

Toonami is complete puke, I only watch MHA. Attack on Titan has turned into a bunch of drawn out, talky nonsense. If it weren't just some long running typical shonen, it could have been a great, serious, 12-13 episode horror survival series.

Naruto, Boruto, Super, JoJo, etc... just bad... and I haven't even bothered checking out Mob Psycho, although I might fire it up On Demand, even though my gut says not to.

Oh and forget about Unicorn and Outlaw Star HD, both were taken off On Demand.

[OwlChemist81]

1 hour ago, Zenigundam said:

Toonami is complete puke, I only watch MHA. Attack on Titan has turned into a bunch of drawn out, talky nonsense. If it weren't just some long running typical shonen, it could have been a great, serious, 12-13 episode horror survival series.

Naruto, Boruto, Super, JoJo, etc... just bad... and I haven't even bothered checking out Mob Psycho, although I might fire it up On Demand, even though my gut says not to.

Oh and forget about Unicorn and Outlaw Star HD, both were taken off On Demand.

Not true at all. Maybe not VOD through your cable company, but they are both still available on the Adult Swim app, though I'd say Unicorn's days are probably numbered since it's approaching 2 years since they announced its acquisition. Hopefully it will get one more streaming run (Episodes 13-22, which cover OVAs 5-7 would be a nice sendoff) before [as] gives up the rights.

Outlaw Star probably won't be going anywhere until next summer, and it might even get an extra run on Toonami!

[Sketch]

On 11/8/2018 at 8:12 AM, elfie said:

Plus, you can't just look at only the ratings to determine what will keep the block afloat anymore.  Anything Dragonball is still the biggest hits, but I predict when htey stop airing them, ratings will totally flatline and soon it will be harder to judge which show is more special than others.

I see some people suggest that if they ditch DB then they'll be healthier for it by eliminating the outlier to their ratings. I kind of get what they're saying because right now (and this has probably always been the case) DBS is an island. People tune in for that and only that and then leave. By eliminating DBZ/DBS they will inevitably lose a lot of viewers but the bar will then be set lower for the rest of the shows because nothing will stand-out much. The thing is though without at least one big draw, Toonami may do badly enough to finally get cancelled.

It's more likely DB reruns will survive somewhere on Adult Swim than any show that isn't an original. Based on what we're seeing with Kai, a Super rerun would probably be on level with the remaining premieres. It would likely surprise no one if Toonami started with DBZ Kai and DBS reruns back to back by the end of next year, especially if they still have 9pm by then.

[Blatch]

6 hours ago, Sketch said:

By eliminating DBZ/DBS they will inevitably lose a lot of viewers but the bar will then be set lower for the rest of the shows because nothing will stand-out much. The thing is though without at least one big draw, Toonami may do badly enough to finally get cancelled.

I'm under the impression that we'd see another big block cut like in 2015 in that case. The [as] management really wants this block to succeed, so they'd give it a bunch of leverage before actually cancelling it.

On the other hand, it's possible that TV ratings might degenerate so much in the time until DB Super ends that they won't even need a show which does that well... if they haven't already.

[The1gairon]

1 hour ago, Blatch said:

I'm under the impression that we'd see another big block cut like in 2015 in that case. The [as] management really wants this block to succeed, so they'd give it a bunch of leverage before actually cancelling it.

On the other hand, it's possible that TV ratings might degenerate so much in the time until DB Super ends that they won't even need a show which does that well... if they haven't already.

Naruto/Boruto.

Those WILL be the shows that Toonami will try to treat as their new darlings.

[Daos]

8 hours ago, Sketch said:

I see some people suggest that if they ditch DB then they'll be healthier for it by eliminating the outlier to their ratings. I kind of get what they're saying because right now (and this has probably always been the case) DBS is an island. People tune in for that and only that and then leave. By eliminating DBZ/DBS they will inevitably lose a lot of viewers but the bar will then be set lower for the rest of the shows because nothing will stand-out much. The thing is though without at least one big draw, Toonami may do badly enough to finally get cancelled.

It's more likely DB reruns will survive somewhere on Adult Swim than any show that isn't an original. Based on what we're seeing with Kai, a Super rerun would probably be on level with the remaining premieres. It would likely surprise no one if Toonami started with DBZ Kai and DBS reruns back to back by the end of next year, especially if they still have 9pm by then.

Super is kind of a poison pill. It gets viewers, but its poor quality drives away people who might otherwise be interested in trying out this whole anime thing. Same for the Naruto power hour. That has got to be the worst hour of TV airing right now.

 

[Mr Owl]

Well will another filler beat a premiere again or will luck be in for the premiere 

[Sketch]

10 hours ago, elfie said:

Naruto/Boruto.

Those WILL be the shows that Toonami will try to treat as their new darlings.

They kind of already are but so far the results show Naruto still isn’t Dragon Ball.

[The1gairon]

9 hours ago, Sketch said:

They kind of already are but so far the results show Naruto still isn’t Dragon Ball.

Kai still airs before Naruto.

No earthly idea why they chose to put Super AFTER Boruto. Why not just have a DBZ hour and a Loud Ninja hour?

[OwlChemist81]

Numbers improved MARKEDLY this week--have we finally turned a corner?

However, poor JoJo still can't manage to get back on the Top 50...read more below.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-10-2018.html

[PokeNirvash]

But did Black Clover beat JoJo again? That's the important thing.

[OwlChemist81]

No clue--Programming Insider is being really slow to update this week!

Or maybe--we just got spoiled because they were unusually speedy the last 3 weeks or so?

Edited November 13, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[Blatch]

"They" meaning ProgrammingInsider.

I expected the ratings to come out late this week for some reason (Veterans Day), but I don't think it's happened in any year.

[Daos]

God damn old people love those Hallmark original movies don't they?

[brianycpht]

17 minutes ago, Daos said:

God damn old people love those Hallmark original movies don't they?

My wife watches every one. She’s part of the problem. She’s on 34 though.

The damn things are so formulaic with a guy and girl who don’t get along but get together at the end after some minor conflict. Also there to help is some older person who “knows a thing or two about love”, usually played by an aging former star. Since its November, add in “The magic of Christmas” and you have a tear jerker for the whole family!

It always causes problems with the DVR on Saturday.

Maybe Toonami should lead into by these 

Edited November 13, 2018 by brianycpht

[Daos]

1 minute ago, brianycpht said:

My wife watches every one. She’s part of the problem. She’s on 34 though.

The damn things are so formulaic with a guy and girl who don’t get along but get together at the end after some minor conflict. Also there to help is some older person who “knows a thing or two about love”, usually played by an aging former star 

It always causes problems with the DVR on Saturday.

Yeah that copy paste formula is used in pretty much every big screen romantic comedy as well. They've got it down to a science.

[brianycpht]

2 minutes ago, Daos said:

Yeah that copy paste formula is used in pretty much every big screen romantic comedy as well. They've got it down to a science.

They have the most abrupt endings. There’s no epilogue at all. The second they get together- credits roll- on to the next.

 

Another thing that gets me is they usually have the same actors over and over again. There’s also almost no diversity- all white people. 

[Daos]

3 minutes ago, brianycpht said:

They have the most abrupt endings. There’s no epilogue at all. The second they get together- credits roll- on to the next.

 

Another thing that gets me is they usually have the same actors over and over again. There’s also almost no diversity- all white people. 

Well remember it's mostly old people. The last thing they want to see is some dad gum minorities with their dancin and their hippity hoppin.

[OwlChemist81]

5 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

But did Black Clover beat JoJo again? That's the important thing.

Actually, NOT THIS TIME...

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-10-2018.html

"Adult Swim’s line-up performed as follows:  DRAGON BALL at 0.31 and 0.18/515K compared to last week’s 0.24/0.11, MY HERO ACADEMIA up 0.08 to 0.20/502K, NARUTO up 0.07 to 0.21, BORUTO up 0.05 to 0.20, MOB PSYCHO 100 up 0.05 to 0.19/443K, ATTACK ON TITAN up 0.05 to 0,18, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURE up 0.02 to 0.15, BLACK CLOVER steady at 0.13/309K, HUNTER X HUNTER down 0.04 to 0.11/272K, FLCL down 0.04 to 0.11, POP TEAM EPIC at 0.11/245K, LUPIN THE 3RD at 0.10/215K, and SAMURAI JACK at 0.09/206K."

Note that we STILL don't know how well Naruto Shippuden and FLCL did for some crazy reason, but we DO know that the 2nd half didn't perform nearly as well as the first, which is usually expected. That's a low low for Jack but it's not the worst it's done; that would be the ill-fated double Jack back on 10/20. However, how in the WORLD did the 9 PM hour break 500K and average 0.19 18-49!? Were people actually *gasp* watching Road Chip!? It DID seem to provide a decent lead-in the first time back on October 13th too! I guess people love chipmunks!?

More CGI animal magnetism to come to lead-in to Toonami next week with the 2005 classic Madagascar, so we should see a similar situation, right?

Edited November 13, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[OwlChemist81]

PRE-TOONAMI CN:

Alvin & Chipmunks: Road Chip (repeat) (TOON, 7:00 PM, 120 min.) • 0.690 million viewers (#47) • 0.43 HH (#48) • 0.17 A18-49 (#52) • 0.19 A18-34 (#29) • 0.15 A25-54 (#82)

TOONAMI PRIME TIME:

Dragon Ball Z Kai (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.515 million viewers (#68) • 0.36 HH (#57) • 0.18 A18-49 (#46) • 0.21 A18-34 (#20) • 0.15 A25-54 (#82)

My Hero Academia (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.502 million viewers (#73) • 0.34 HH (#61) • 0.20 A18-49 (#33) • 0.23 A18-34 (#13) • 0.16 A25-54 (#74)

Naruto: Shippuden (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.513 million viewers (#69) • 0.34 HH (#61) • 0.21 A18-49 (#29) • 0.23 A18-34 (#13) • 0.16 A25-54 (#74)

Boruto: Naruto Next Generations (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.441 million viewers (#80) • 0.30 HH (#75) • 0.20 A18-49 (#33) • 0.22 A18-34 (#17) • 0.15 A25-54 (#82)

Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-snl-on-nbc-tops-all-saturday-telecasts-among-adults-18-49/ | Programming Insider

11/10/18 - Total Viewers
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	515,000
MHA	502,000	97.48%
Shippuden	513,000	102.19%
Boruto	441,000	85.96%
DBS	628,000	142.40%
MP100	443,000	70.54%
AOTS3	404,000	91.20%
JoJo4	332,000	82.18%
B. Clover	309,000	93.07%
H×H	272,000	88.03%
FLCL3	271,000	99.63%
PTE	245,000	90.41%
Lupin	215,000	87.76%
Jack	206,000	95.81%
AVERAGE	378,286	38th of 45
11/10/18 - Adults 18-49
Show	Viewers	Retention
DBZ Kai	234,000
MHA	259,000	110.68%
Shippuden	268,000	103.47%
Boruto	253,000	94.40%
DBS	393,000	155.34%
MP100	246,000	62.60%
AOTS3	229,000	93.09%
JoJo4	188,000	82.10%
B. Clover	161,000	85.64%
H×H	144,000	89.44%
FLCL3	136,000	94.44%
PTE	138,000	101.47%
Lupin	130,000	94.20%
Jack	111,000	85.38%
AVERAGE	206,429	41st of 45

Hey, that's not too shabby! It's probably more beneficial to say this was the 2nd-highest rated 7-hour Toonami block (the first was the Family Guy-led block back on 9/29) in terms of total viewers and the 3rd highest in Adults 18-49. Also, the 18-34 average for the first half of the block was 0.231, or roughly 157.4K, which is actually the 2nd highest 9 PM-12:30 AM average we've seen.

Edited November 14, 2018 by OwlChemist81

[Daos]

Titan slaying had its time, now it's all about Goblin slaying.

[OwlChemist81]

That needs to come to Toonami soon!! Slot it at 11:30 to follow DBS--ratings for both slots would improve!!

[Daos]

7 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

That needs to come to Toonami soon!! Slot it at 11:30 to follow DBS--ratings for both slots would improve!!

Oh so you think it would have a chance of ... raping the competition? 

I'll show myself out.

[Sketch]

17 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

But did Black Clover beat JoJo again? That's the important thing.

Not this time.

[OwlChemist81]

11 hours ago, Daos said:

Oh so you think it would have a chance of ... raping the competition? 

I'll show myself out.

The thing about Goblin Slayer is: I haven't seen it, but I can't deny its popularity in thinking acquiring it would probably be an asset for Toonami, especially if it goes beyond the currently-planned 12 episodes. But if this rape issue is an issue, how bad is it? Are we talking SAO-level or are we talking Griffith x Charlotte in Berserk The Movie II?

The former would of course be fine for Toonami, while the latter, most likely too disturbing, which would be a shame because Toonami needs to cash in on the popularity of a series like Goblin Slayer right now, especially since VRV subscribers just lost access to the dub after, what, 3 episodes came out?

[brianycpht]

5 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

The thing about Goblin Slayer is: I haven't seen it, but I can't deny its popularity in thinking acquiring it would probably be an asset for Toonami, especially if it goes beyond the currently-planned 12 episodes. But if this rape issue is an issue, how bad is it? Are we talking SAO-level or are we talking Griffith x Charlotte in Berserk The Movie II?

The former would of course be fine for Toonami, while the latter, most likely too disturbing, which would be a shame because Toonami needs to cash in on the popularity of a series like Goblin Slayer right now, especially since VRV subscribers just lost access to the dub after, what, 3 episodes came out?

I agree, this business of “waiting to see if it’s good” doesn’t work when you have a readily streamable dub. By the time a year goes by, no one is really into it anymore plus you aren’t even airing something that people can’t see elsewhere. That’s what’s happened with MHA, they wanted to see if it was just a fad or will it remain popular. Well it is, but now they are so far behind it just does mediocre

[OwlChemist81]

Yes, you can see the dubs of Goblin Slayer and SSSS.Gridman on FUNimation NOW, but would subscribers to both VRV and cable want to drop VRV and pick up FUNi NOW to continue to follow those series overwhelmingly to the point that Toonami shouldn't even mess with them? That's the question that must be asked right now. Still hoping Toonami pulls a rabbit out of their hat and doesn't rerun AOT S3 Episode 1 (#38) at Midnight on November 24th, but picks up one of these hot new series.

[brianycpht]

43 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Yes, you can see the dubs of Goblin Slayer and SSSS.Gridman on FUNimation NOW, but would subscribers to both VRV and cable want to drop VRV and pick up FUNi NOW to continue to follow those series overwhelmingly to the point that Toonami shouldn't even mess with them? That's the question that must be asked right now. Still hoping Toonami pulls a rabbit out of their hat and doesn't rerun AOT S3 Episode 1 (#38) at Midnight on November 24th, but picks up one of these hot new series.

That would be best. Do they HAVE to rerun it right now right after a marathon?

it would be best to rerun it at 2am closer to when the 2nd cour starts. 

They really need to jump on these shows now while their popularity is still on the rise, not until their deemed worthy by the crew after they end. Nothing ventured nothing gained 

Edited November 14, 2018 by brianycpht

[The1gairon]

1 hour ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Yes, you can see the dubs of Goblin Slayer and SSSS.Gridman on FUNimation NOW, but would subscribers to both VRV and cable want to drop VRV and pick up FUNi NOW to continue to follow those series overwhelmingly to the point that Toonami shouldn't even mess with them? That's the question that must be asked right now. Still hoping Toonami pulls a rabbit out of their hat and doesn't rerun AOT S3 Episode 1 (#38) at Midnight on November 24th, but picks up one of these hot new series.

By this point it's best to just have a VRV subscription and a Funimation subscription.