OwlChemist81 Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 I believe this is worthy of individual threads. It's been almost 15 YEARS since it's been on CN/AS, after all! But that's just my opinion... Quote
AnimationFan14 Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 I am leaning in the same direction Owl and hell if any technical "rerun" show deserves it's own episode threads each week it's Outlaw Star Plus it is not the run of mill re-run Quote
The1gairon Posted August 18, 2017 Author Posted August 18, 2017 So do we want to go ahead and make individual threads for each and every Outlaw Star episode for it's HD run? ooor would more people rather have one big rerun thread for every episode I say, the former! I don't see why not. Quote
Blatch Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 I support doing individual threads for each episode of this show. It's been so long since the original Toonami airing that, arguably, most of the people watching it are an entirely new audience, including me. Quote
AnimationFan14 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Then individual dolled up episode threads it is Quote
mochi Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 watched the first two eps of my DVD's yesterday will be interesting to see if I notice a difference between my 15 year old SD Bandai DVD's and HD quality remasters Quote
The1gairon Posted August 19, 2017 Author Posted August 19, 2017 Ugh. But now I need to stay up til 3 AM again. *_* Plus, I also need to sit through Naruto! Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 It is dumb as fuck that Outlaw Star didn't get 2 AM or hell, even 1:30, if Lupin is doing crap numbers and Shit-Puddn' is taking a hard left turn into filler hell! But hopefully in the meantime it anchors the end of the block! Quote
The1gairon Posted August 19, 2017 Author Posted August 19, 2017 It is dumb as fuck that Outlaw Star didn't get 2 AM or hell, even 1:30, if Lupin is doing crap numbers and Shit-Puddn' is taking a hard left turn into filler hell! But hopefully in the meantime it anchors the end of the block! Logically, the block is limited in its timeslots, and it's still late at night. They can only do so much. Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Logically, the block is limited in its timeslots, and it's still late at night. They can only do so much. That wouldn't involve a new timeslot, just moving shows around. Quote
Misaka Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 This was an HD series? On my 42 inch TV it was the size of a standard box tv This is shit Quote
The1gairon Posted August 20, 2017 Author Posted August 20, 2017 HD is not a kind of frame ratio. Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 My old 54" inch rear-projection TV played everything full screen. This is horse dung. It's in "HD" and it's 2017, yet it takes up only 60% of a 60" HDTV and we're supposed to take that? Total garbage honestly. I'd be better off watching it on any other TV in my house. Quote
Jman Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 It's a video quality, and the video quality is ass. Quote
Top Gun Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 How do people still not understand aspect ratios in the year 2017 Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 How do people still not understand aspect ratios in the year 2017 How do they not program "HD" series so that they fit an HDTV properly even though it's 2017, "tough guy"? *Steps to Top Gun* Quote
The1gairon Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 It's fine on sling.tv. Still got letterboxing on the sides, but that's it. Bring it up to Adult Swim and Funimation. Maybe they'll improve the quality for the rest of the show. Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 For an older 4:3 show, you have to crop off some of the top and bottom in order to fill the screen. A lot of networks do this (as well as what Toei did for The Final Chapters), but some networks prefer to air the pillarboxed version to preserve the original image (as it should be). Quote
PokeNirvash Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 letterboxing on the sides The correct term is "pillarboxing". Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 The correct term is "pillarboxing". You seriously need a girlfriend. Quote
CaptainStarwind Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 You seriously need a girlfriend. Zeni, you a busta. Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Either fill the screen properly or don't bother airing it at all Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Either fill the screen properly or don't bother airing it at all So in other words, cut a piece of the image off to fit the screen or don't air it? You ignant. Quote
Top Gun Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Either fill the screen properly or don't bother airing it at all No, air the content as it was originally created and don't arbitrarily cut shit out of the scene. It still blows my mind that literally everyone over the age of 20 grew up in a world of 4:3 aspect-ratio TV, and yet get completely butthurt when they see things properly presented like that. Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 So in other words, cut a piece of the image off to fit the screen or don't air it? You ignant. I don't want to watch an SD film I want an HD film So if you air an SD film on a HD channel that's a very fucking stupid move No one does that even anime network doesn't do that and they had outlaw star on it in actual HD format so what is toonami's excuse? Besides being fucking lazy like usual They didn't do that move with Cowboy Bebop it was remastered and in HD Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 No, air the content as it was originally created and don't arbitrarily cut shit out of the scene. It still blows my mind that literally everyone over the age of 20 grew up in a world of 4:3 aspect-ratio TV, and yet get completely butthurt when they see things properly presented like that. When you watch a tv series what do you watch it under HD or SD? Quote
The1gairon Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 ... .. did they even get the HD copies that Funimation just released? If it turns out they didn't, then 1.) That's stupid, and 2.) they lied. Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 ... .. did they even get the HD copies that Funimation just released? If it turns out they didn't, then 1.) That's stupid, and 2.) they lied. From the fact that it aired in an SD format instead of an HD format seems to be clear that Demarco is just another idiot for not watching the series in HD before agreeing Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 It looked like this, right? That's fucking HD. Quote
Naraku4656 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 god i'm commenting on a toonami thread, what the fuck is wrong with me. i haven't even watched AS since 2011. and i stopped watching anime in that same year it seems people here are confused between what is HD/SD and aspect ratio. you can have SD at 4:3 and 16:9 and you can have HD at 4:3 AND 16:9 what makes it HD is the resolution, which is 1920x1080 for 16:9 and 1440x1080 for 4:3. SD is 480i, which is way smaller than that. if you try to play the old DVDs, your player would say (if it did show you) that it is playing at 480i, which is SD. If you buy a blu-ray, the company would likely have upscaled it (or remastered it) from the original 480i to 1080p, REGARDLESS of its aspect ratio. saying something isn't in HD because it's not in 16:9 is technically wrong. for shows with actual people, this is not usually a problem because cameras even back in the day usually shot far more wide than 4:3 and it was edited down for broadcast television. cartoons are a lot more difficult in this regard. the drawings would have had to have been made to fit a 16x9 screen, which they are not always. if this isn't done, then stretching happens and an image looks awful. the argument is that more recent shows from like 2003 that can do this are most likely because 16x9 existed at the time, so the animators may or may not have drawn the images larger to expect this newer format. but older shows from the mid 90's would not have been made in this regard because it either didn't exist in the consumer market or the animators just didn't draw for it. the Cowboy Bebop blu-rays are ALSO in 4:3 but are ALSO HD. basically, ya'll are dumb Quote
PokeNirvash Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 16:9 show on 4:3 TV with letterboxing > 4:3 show on 4:3 TV > 16:9 show on 16:9 TV > 4:3 show on 16:9 TV with pillarboxing >> 4:3 show on 16:9 TV, stretched horizontally >>>>>> shit >>>>>> 16:9 show on 4:3 TV, stretched vertically Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 16:9 show on 4:3 TV with letterboxing > 4:3 show on 4:3 TV > 16:9 show on 16:9 TV > 4:3 show on 16:9 TV with pillarboxing >> 4:3 show on 16:9 TV, stretched horizontally >>>>>> shit >>>>>> 16:9 show on 4:3 TV, stretched vertically I think that "4:3 show on 4:3 TV = 16:9 show on 16:9 TV", and that last one is actually "COMPRESSED vertically", but otherwise you're right. Point being, if the screen resolution is sharp, it's HD. It really has nothing to do with the aspect ratio. If Outlaw Star were still in HD, it would look very grainy and lack definition on large TVs. I still get the SD feed of CN West, which means that I get an SD version of Outlaw Star at 4:30 AM. Maybe one day I'll check it out and see what it looks like if I can stay up that long. Or maybe I'll just DVR it, to see what it would actually look like in SD. But Outlaw Star HD looked fine to me! Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 I think that "4:3 show on 4:3 TV = 16:9 show on 16:9 TV", and that last one is actually "COMPRESSED vertically", but otherwise you're right. Point being, if the screen resolution is sharp, it's HD. It really has nothing to do with the aspect ratio. If Outlaw Star were still in HD, it would look very grainy and lack definition on large TVs. I still get the SD feed of CN West, which means that I get an SD version of Outlaw Star at 4:30 AM. Maybe one day I'll check it out and see what it looks like if I can stay up that long. Or maybe I'll just DVR it, to see what it would actually look like in SD. But Outlaw Star HD looked fine to me! On demand seems to air it in SD and my DVR recorded it in SD even though it was an HD channel Very confusing Quote
PokeNirvash Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 that last one is actually "COMPRESSED vertically" No, I mean "stretched vertically". As in, the characters look thinner than they should. Quote
Top Gun Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 On demand seems to air it in SD and my DVR recorded it in SD even though it was an HD channel Very confusing It's. Not. SD. Did you not read anything Naraku wrote? Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 It's. Not. SD. Did you not read anything Naraku wrote? Do I listen to ibers? If I did I'll end up like zeni Quote
PokeNirvash Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 You really should listen to him. Not all IBers are alike, y'know. Quote
Top Gun Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Do I listen to ibers? If I did I'll end up like zeni Fine, don't listen to people who actually know what the hell they're talking about and continue to sound completely ignorant. Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 No, I mean "stretched vertically". As in, the characters look thinner than they should. Ok, yeah I suppose you're right. But if you want to get right down to it, compressed horizontally = stretched vertically, and vice versa. Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 You really should listen to him. Not all IBers are alike, y'know. The 360 naraku is more trusting Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Fine, don't listen to people who actually know what the hell they're talking about and continue to sound completely ignorant. You really just love picking fights don't you? Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Actually, Top Gun, you sound quite foolish right now. If it's in HD and you have an HDTV, it better fit your whole screen or else you have a lawsuit because you bought your TV with an implied warranty of merchantibility. Quote
Top Gun Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 You really just love picking fights don't you? Who's picking a fight? If I'm dead wrong about something, and someone who knows what they're talking about corrects me, you can bet I'm going to listen to them. It just boggles my mind that you won't do the same. And being ignorant of things like this is why FXX shows some shitty zoomed-in version of classic Simpsons episodes instead of showing them in their proper original aspect ratio. It's like those terrible "fullscreen" versions of movies in the early days of DVD. Quote
Misaka Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Who's picking a fight? If I'm dead wrong about something, and someone who knows what they're talking about corrects me, you can bet I'm going to listen to them. It just boggles my mind that you won't do the same. And being ignorant of things like this is why FXX shows some shitty zoomed-in version of classic Simpsons episodes instead of showing them in their proper original aspect ratio. It's like those terrible "fullscreen" versions of movies in the early days of DVD. Never watched the shit called simpsons Mainly watch animal planet and travel channel Quote
CaptainStarwind Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 What the fuck is going on in this thread? Okay, here's this: I DVRed Toonami last Saturday night. I DVRed the Cartoon Network HD feed. Do yall want me to go look at it and tell you what the hell definition and aspect ratio Outlaw Star was broadcast in? Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 What the fuck is going on in this thread? Okay, here's this: I DVRed Toonami last Saturday night. I DVRed the Cartoon Network HD feed. Do yall want me to go look at it and tell you what the hell definition and aspect ratio Outlaw Star was broadcast in? The problem in here is that people think HD automatically = 16:9 when that's not the case at all. Shippuden airs in 16:9, but it's not HD. How's that for a mindfuck? Quote
PokeNirvash Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 I dunno, the picture quality from 153 onward looked pretty HD to me. Quote
CaptainStarwind Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 The problem in here is that people think HD automatically = 16:9 when that's not the case at all. I thought that it was obvious that HD doesn't necessarily mean 16:9. I mean, my YuYu Hakusho Blu-ray sets were HD, and that show was 4:3. Granted, the Blu-rays I have are 16:9 technically 16:9, since the show is hardcode pillarboxed. If anyone remembers YuYu Hakusho from April Fools 2012, that's why the aspect ratio for the show was buggy: they aired the HD version of the episode and compressed it to a 4:3 size. Quote
Naraku4656 Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Do I listen to ibers? If I did I'll end up like zeni you have no idea how much i'm fighting back going IB on you in this thread Quote
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