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Well, the "cope with it" part was unsaid here. Much of the bigotry people learn is from innocuous sources and tend to be something we simply suppress as either being stereotypical or of explicit racism in origin. The older I get the more I can appreciate the fact that it's not really enough to identify these subtle forms of racism; understanding the origins of this bigotry also exposes how it alters thinking in other ways. A fairly obvious example is the "miserly jew" racist stereotype which just about everyone knows is harmful and should be "suppressed." Some people are aware that it actually derives from Medieval Europe where victims of the diaspora were relegated to jobs in mercantile and money lending because they were outsiders wherever they happened to land. The problem is that this myth is often conflated with modern examples of prominent Jewish financiers, many of whom actually were outsiders in this country from an entirely different forced emigration from Europe. To be clear, this isn't about "overthinking" whether or not the core belief is offensive or abhorrent - that doesn't change regardless of the source. To use a parallel example - it's not a simple matter of dispelling the belief just because it's the product of ancient or unenlightened thought just as it isn't a simple matter of saying racism shouldn't exist because we liberated slaves 164 years ago. Some of the more famous Jewish financiers of the early 20th Century didn't emigrate into the United States with a strong banking background, they came from extreme poverty in Eastern Europe where they were geopolitically isolated. Understanding that, and understanding how they were a product of an evolved form of anti-semitism has an impact on perception: while Nazis nurtured a traditional form of bigotry to justify the Holocaust and, thus, passed it on to us, the vast majority of their victims weren't rich / well to do and were not hated simply because they were successful. Sorce brings up a good point on this: It isn't latent in that sense that it is hidden or stationary. It's latent in the sense that bigoted attitudes doesn't all come from the same source. So, it's not necessarily enough to say that "it's wrong, so I simply won't think that," you also have to acknowledge why specifically it's wrong and how it might not entirely be the product of racism. The successful Jewish people we see around us in the United States today aren't the direct product of medieval xenophobia, they're the product in part of the same post-industrial revolution upheaval that forces many other European groups into abject poverty. Their identity played a part in them being marginalized and can't be overstated, but ignoring the other factors has the unintended consequence of dehumanizing them or shaping them into beings with capabilities the rest don't have. ... Still, you're not wrong in saying it's all fucked up because it is. We're constantly bombarded by bigotry and continually confronting the awful truth that people we care about passed on harmful attitudes, sometimes unknowingly. I don't want to compare being a modern white man to being an alcoholic, but in a way it is. There will never be a time in my life where I can't think about what I'm saying because there will never be a time when I can't be aware of how what I say might evoke some form of bias that has taken millennia to develop and manifest. Bleak as that might sound, I don't see that as a negative, it's part of being human and it's how we become greater than the sum of our instincts. "Suppressing" racist attitudes doesn't help you become better; "coping" or acknowledging that you learned bigotry at some point and that you're actively trying to understand where it came from and why you learned it is how you not only stop the attitude but replace it with a more healthy one.
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Alex Jones Second Defamation Trial Underway
scoobdog replied to matrixman124's topic in Current Events
Not sure what you expected out of her, of all people. -
Alex Jones Second Defamation Trial Underway
scoobdog replied to matrixman124's topic in Current Events
I hope it sends chills down the spine of Tucker Carlson, Fox News, Rudy Guiliani, that weird-ass bitch who was advising Trump about the election (and so on). Free speech isn't free of consequences, and if it hurts their families, even better. -
Alex Jones Second Defamation Trial Underway
scoobdog replied to matrixman124's topic in Current Events
I think that was their goal all along. -
It's not a symptom. It's latent bigotry the just about every non-Jewish person has in some form. Kanye is expressing openly problematic behavior that others have learned to suppress (more so) or cope with (much less so). His inability to acknowledge that bigotry has nothing to do with his mental disease.
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Kanye was always irresponsible for not taking care of a condition he's known about for years. Now, he's responsible for the damage his mental disease causes everyone else. Not that I think mental health issues should be burdened by those that suffer from it, they have an obligation to themselves and those around them to do everything they can to get the help they need and not forsake others for their own personal gain.
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The key difference between Walker and West is that the former's mental disease is far less known and involves components of dementia that aren't predictable, making him dangerous for reasons that differ markedly from the latter and, at the same time, more difficult to eject when his antics pose a direct danger to others. To that extent, Walker is most definitely an unwanted asset that Republicans nonetheless need.
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I'm happy for him. I mean, she's still a step up from the Ho Patrol. Not a big step up, but an improvement none the less.
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In not-so-breaking news: Women don't want to date conservatives
scoobdog replied to naraku360's topic in Current Events
Well, almost nobody. -
On the plus side.... @Ginguymight actually get laid now. He just has to pretend to be a former Democrat.
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In not-so-breaking news: Women don't want to date conservatives
scoobdog replied to naraku360's topic in Current Events
You're getting hit on by conservative white women? -
Lol. Not sure what's worse: Elon being sympathetic to a tyrant or Elon being even worse at mediating than Donald Trump. Kidding... either option is hilarious.
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Everything Tulsi Gabbard does is to draw attention to herself, which isn't particularly unique to her. In this case, she's doing it for the particularly pathetic reason of drawing attention to her podcast.
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I like the service. Had it since they phased out the print magazine, and its been solid.
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The issue has never really been that Kanye is spiraling. People suffering from Bi-Polar I or II do flail increasingly as their condition continues to be untreated, and they tend to hurt the people closest to them as they do it. The issue is that white conservatives have found an easy tool to latch on to in their bid to undermine minorities. It doesn't matter that he's clearly mentally ill, they simply don't have to acknowledge his illness while taking his words to prove their point. Had Kanye not been adopted by white people, he wouldn't have had a bully pulpit to rant from and we wouldn't be talking about it. In all likelihood, he would be just another has-been musician struggling with addiction just out of view, which, in itself, is a sad commentary.
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It’s not that he needs to go hide somewhere, he just needs to take his bipolar disorder seriously and take his god damn meds. It’s not like his work ever justified the abuse it spawned, even when it wasn’t terrible.
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My brother swears by oat milk. When I tried it, I thought the exact same thing: it’s just like creamer.
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I use almond milk for my breakfast, but it’s no substitute for real milk. I don’t really like the taste of any non dairy milks.
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Agree with the post above. Pardons aren't just for people who are incarcerated, though such people certainly deserve it, they also expunge records of people who are barred from jobs, housing, and services because of criminal records. People who have served their sentence for possession with intent to distribute or possession alongside other non-violent crimes should also be pardoned. Given that this isn't the case, it seems certain that this is more or less an action designed for political optics, not an actual attempt at affect the potential voter base.
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scoobdog replied to 1pooh4u's topic in General Discussion
I'm sorry... that was so awful it was an instant classic. Did you drink yourself under the seats? -
People can't stop mind fucking you, can they? Straight up bullshit.