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Superman had the fact that it was Superman in its corner. That helped people avert their eyes to some of its less desirable traits. Now that’s it’s not being made for CN, it may even shed some of those traits entirely in its upcoming seasons. IFG doesn’t have that going for it. Instead, in two trailers, IFG has shown the absolute worst aspect of western animation bundled into one package. That will be a big hurdle for it to get over. Episode 1 will have to be insanely good to get skeptics to give it a chance. If it just shovels 22 minutes of western slop into the viewers mouth, they won’t even stay into episode 2. You are right, you probably will be the only one comparing it to Kinnikuman. But the general audience won’t compare it to anything. They will just decide live if they think it’s sucks or not.
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It ain’t got a thing to do with One Piece. If the Facebook page is your info source, you sat through both of these shows expecting One Piece, and only after you watched them, you realized it wasn’t airing at all. Rick finale was boring nonsense Uzumaki sucked sweaty balls and people were done with it Demon Slayer wasn’t enough to pull people back after the 1.5 hours of doodoo up front. Nobody on this earth is tuning into Toonami in almost 2025 JUST for One Piece. Not one. The start of the night is always the pace setter and this week was a couple of turds. Good news is, that mess is out the window. Bad news is, we may just be replacing it with a new mess. Normally I wouldn’t put much stock in IFG, but given how bad Rick was, the bar is low enough where IFG should probably do a little better. Mashle is reliable shonen, so I’m not too worried about that doing better than Uzumaki. Beyond that though is 2 hours of reruns + One Piece. Hopefully no one has much expectations beyond the first hour of the night.
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I keep forgetting that Get Jiro is a thing. Have they said anything at all about it besides the original confirmation it’s something they are doing? Forgot about Primal too, mostly because Genndy is a pretentious dick and that one won’t actually be a Toonami premier, even if it will be the lead show. So we are a little more stocked than I expected. If I had to guess, I’d put Lazarus at mid February, just like Kamui was. With 13 episodes confirmed, that takes us cleanly to May which is around the time they will probably need to stall as well. BE and Mashle will be close to completion at the same time, so that will be another big schedule shuffle for them to fumble.
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Even if Demarco had the greenlight to confirm the new seasons right now, he would still wait till 2 weeks before they are to go on air to announce anything. Well, it would be cool if they just pulled the show at episode 16 then. Now that they have done that for Naruto they can’t fall back on the old excuses for skipping episode. They won’t do this, but it would be a nice gesture. No way will they let IFG hang over the holidays. If not the 21st, they will find a way to squeeze it all in to 2024. Id put Lazarus out into the spring somewhere. They need to be tactical with those releases. Unless Rooster Fighter is a huge rush job, Lazarus may be the only original in 2025. The year end marathons are one of their only remaining traditions they stick to. All the other “normal” marathons only happen when they are convenient or they need to buy time. Thanksgiving will step on a lot of toes this year so they will likely skip that one.
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Seems like they kicked the ball to Toonami’s court. Aniplex seems to be cooperative, and I can’t imagine them giving the block a hard time on a B show like Blue Exorcist, so now it’s fully on Toonami to pony up the cash for the new season when it’s time. Which in 6 months, any number of things can happen to the block that ends up causing that not to happen. I don’t remember how this show is broken down. Is it all one season? Or does the filler part happen in a second cour thats a different license? Would be cool if they just aired the canon episodes and once those were done went straight to the new seasons instead of making us wait through filler.
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Lazarus trailer debuts following NYCC panel
Toonamiguy321 replied to Jman's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Simple, Japanese audiences didn’t like it. As with most Japanese creators, they don’t really care about opinions outside of Japan. So no love for Dandy at home meant the project was a failure. This will be an interesting problem for Lazarus. We know Watanabe wants it to be a hit with Japan, but it’s being made for Toonami. And the only way it can succeed in Japan is if he tells Demarco to sit down and shut up and just let him do all the work. But will Demarco’s ego allow that to happen? Toonami originals have also not been widely available in Japan as other seasonal shows usually are, so it will be interesting to see if Lazarus drops in Japan close to its Toonami premier. -
I think that’s the schedule most would prefer. Mid block reruns are always an annoyance. Apparently the world would collapse if One Piece spent 3-4 weeks at 1am. I’ll never understand why they are so obsessive about preserving timeslots, especially in the case of OP which often goes weeks at a time absent from the schedule. Niche magazine shonen like Blue Exorcist is the kind of stuff I want to see them go for more often, it’s just super annoying that when they finally do, it’s one they already aired when there were so many other options they could have gone with from Aniplex, who seems to be not only accommodating to Toonami’s struggles, but glad to work with the block. Mob S1 rerun says hi It’s a slap in the face to the audience. At the start of 2024, Toonami was a 5 premier block. At the end of 2024, Toonami is a 3 premier block. Replacing yet another premier with a rerun is bad optics, even if 6 months from now they start the new season, which I will stress is not a guarantee. By the time it might start, Mashle will have already aired both of its seasons, so the gaps don’t start. Like 90% correct. Not being able to use magic is the greatest sin in their universe, so while he does punch and kick his way through all his problems, he has to pretend like it’s magic.
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Invincible Fight Girl premieres on Toonami on November 2nd
Toonamiguy321 replied to Sketch's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
As with most western shows, it’s 10 episodes. So we should finish it before 2025 -
Why not just air it now? One Piece skipped 3 canon arcs and it was fine. There is no reason to do a 6 month long rerun (half of which is non canon and retconned) to start a new season. I also recall people apply this logic to the Mob rerun a few years ago, only for S2 to never materialize. We very well could get to the end of BE and just have it leave never to be heard from again. You and anyone else who needed a recap could have taken the next 2.5 weeks to recap it yourself instead of all of us sitting through a 6 month long rerun with zero guarantees they will even get the new seasons. “I don’t wanna stream it” ok I don’t want it clogging a premier slot for 6 months. Here’s a hypothetical way they might shuffle things up if Daima is on the table after its theater premier, now that you mention it, it makes some sense of why BE is where it’s at 12 - IFG 12:30 - Daima 1 - Mashle 1:30 - One Piece 2 - Blue Exorcist 2:30 - MHA S6 3 - Rick and Morty This scenario also works out for MHA S7 if they opt for that instead. Slot Kai at 2:30 instead.
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Lazarus trailer debuts following NYCC panel
Toonamiguy321 replied to Jman's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Trusting a Jason Demarco anime trailer? Could not be me. -
Yea ok, this is not how I expected the schedules to shape up at all. It’s not in the way I expected, but they do seem to be saving MHA (in the optimistic scenario they have it) for the lead show in January. With how far behind they already are, that’s a smart move. Mashle has been on people’s prediction list for awhile now. I have no idea why it took them this long to get it. A nice little curveball. But why the fuck did they waste precious budget getting Blue Exorcist back, especially to air it that early in the night? You were there in the Aniplex catalog, why did you not get something new? “B-b-but it hasn’t run in nearly 10 years!” Don’t matter, Toonami viewers don’t tolerate reruns. Toonami is now 4/7 reruns. A bad little curveball. And on the topic of reruns, why is Kai still on the block? It is now multiple episodes behind Rewind. I don’t understand why they are so obsessed with keeping the block seven slots long when they don’t have the content for it. Unless Kai is sitting there waiting till they can announce Daima after the theater run. Demarco almost had a W schedule update here but blew it by parking a paid rerun right in the middle of everything.
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Who the FUCK is Frank? Why are they ending on this? None of this matters. Not one episode of it thus far has mattered. I’m angry at myself for actually giving this all 10 weeks of my attention.
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Is it illegal for news sites to use any images for Rick and Morty besides this one and the one where Rick is holding Morty’s eyes open? Anyway, you can see their confidence in the series is heavily fading only doing a 2 season renewal this time around. Or maybe it’s just normalizing, the original renewal was abnormally large
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Oh no doubt, but it should cool off on cable a little. On 11/5 millions of people nationwide will turn on their news network of choice and just leave it on as background noise for 8-12 hours. That will inflate quite a few individual programs across the day. After the results are in though, people will return to their regularly scheduled tweets and reddit posts to be happy and/or angry.
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Trump rally on Newsmax - 784k Uzumaki on Adult Swim - 129k Smidged it out in the demo, sure. But I guarantee you Demarco would spread his cheeks if it meant pulling 784k viewers to Toonami again. Anyway, I do hope SotB can start doing this reliably week to week again. I’m sure we all want to see how IFG does, but given it premiers the same week as a certain other event, I’d wager the various news networks will completely blow out the top 400 chart on SpoilerTV. So it’s nice having that alternative source.
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Invincible Fight Girl premieres on Toonami on November 2nd
Toonamiguy321 replied to Sketch's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
That’s even more out of place than on Toonami. Do they think people won’t notice this is a kids show? -
I don’t think CR is holding up the announcement. Since Toonami gets so few things to announce these days, they want to space them out. IFG gets the current shine. They are holding back 11/2 likely because it telegraphs MHA S7. They want that to take shine from IFG as little as possible. I think we can count on our hands how many times in Toonami history they have announced more than 1 thing at a time. Every time we have a multiple show exit schedule, we theorize what the big shuffle will be, but every time they spread it out across multiple weeks so nothing is stacked up. I really hope they do land Hashira Training for this last stretch of the year. Like Mugen Train, it’s the perfect fit for us to finish one more thing in 2024. No chance. Thats just basic business. You want people to think they have to go to the theater to maximize 3 days profits. Especially if they are set on it only being 3 days with no extensions.
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Invincible Fight Girl premieres on Toonami on November 2nd
Toonamiguy321 replied to Sketch's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I had seen the staff kinda tempering expectations on there being more before it premiered, so I think even they didn’t know. The final episode is also written in a very “this is the last episode” kind of way. Superman and Toonami go together, I don’t know why they thought this show couldn’t stand on the block. People have been wanting a return to this for a long time. The ol “what if Superman was actually a dick” thing ran its course. Technically, MAWS is supposed to be Lois Lanes show, featuring special guest star Superman and Jimmy, but it still feels like it’s Superman’s show where he gets to be a good boy and help people. I don’t expect the staff to do a Jack S5 pivot, but I do expect the staff to use slight increase in freedom for the new seasons. Some aspects, such as the junior reporter team, feel like aspects added to the show purely because it was going to be a kids show. Max still wants it on the kids section, but I don’t think they run as tight of a ship as CN. Anyway, back to the topic at hand, unlike Superman, IFG doesn’t have any long term fans showing up to give it a chance, or willing to look past some of the more childish aspects. So it’s gonna need some kind of miracle to gain enough traction for an S2. -
Yea i really don’t get it. IFG was announced and will very likely be the only new thing on 11/2 so I really don’t see the need to hold out. There is no suspense, we already know what’s happening. Earlier this year they had been doing good with prompt schedule updates, but now when it counts they are falling off again.
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Invincible Fight Girl premieres on Toonami on November 2nd
Toonamiguy321 replied to Sketch's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I’m on the Jman team here, I want this to flop for two reasons. One, so it goes away, and second, as Jman said, it’s yet another western project that has no original ideas of its own and it just going to rip off anime for 10 episodes. The west needs to get out of this rut. The lead also seems like she is going to be insufferable. Well, Superman got to premier S2 on Toonami and got a 2 season renewal out of the deal. I’m thinking IFG is just something they do not care about at all so they are tossing it to Toonami as late year slot coverage. -
Interesting change to make last second. My guess is the main goal here is bringing the block back to 3 hours once the schedules settle, and Kai is leaving to accomplish that goal. As you say, the long term goal might be replacing our DB fix with Daima, but with MHA keeping pace over Halloween, I’d say S7 is their current priority. They are still hiding the 11/2 schedule for some reason, which probably won’t drop till Friday, so that either has a curveball or MHA burnoff.
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I agree, excluding that screencap of the girl with no hand, this episode didn’t have any blatantly shitty animation. It’s still a downgrade, but I think had this been episode 2, the outrage wouldn’t have been nearly as loud. Demarco was too quick to throw this under the bus to cover his own ass. That said, if we weren’t bitching about animation, we would have our full focus on the awful pacing and structure. Just take the end of the episode for example. 1. The neighbor guy turns into a spiral monster and attacks the family 2. After a short chase he is blown away by the wind? 3. Immediately pivot to new story, Jack in the Box has returned 4. Does absolutely nothing but show up and fall apart 5. Upon seeing a seemingly dead person reappear and attack you, a person you watched willingly walk in front of a car for your sake, Kirie barely reacts at all 6. Cut to credits episode over It’s a mess. It feels more like a comedy than a horror show
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Well, how long did we have to wait for a Super dub? I don’t think Toei is against waiting a little when it comes to the dub. If they free it from theaters after Thanksgiving weekend, that only puts it an extra 1-2 episodes behind.
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Going into the episode with expectations? Here’s a shot from the 30 second promo where one of the women in the hospital wasn’t drawn with a hand.
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Daima second chance over Thanksgiving weekend when lots of people have time off just sounds like a free money printing machine. I think Daima looks like toddler fanfic slop, but I’m not gonna pretend that it’s not gonna do numbers in the theaters either. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if they have already planned this, but want use hype to push more encore tickets. It’s funny, normally I’d be the one saying something like this. But ever since Naruto ended I have just been so zen with whatever happens. If it’s stupid I’ll say so, but at this point it’s just keeping up with the news. Toonami has become so incredibly predictable it’s hard to even be mad. I don’t consider the R&M dub being added in November to be speculation, it’s exactly what I expect to happen. There is no plan, and there hasn’t been one for a long time. It’s just whatever falls into place at a given moment. If nothing does, roll out the schedule filler.