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First FLCL Grunge reviews - IT STINKS!
Toonamiguy321 replied to Jman's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Only because with a few small tweaks, it wouldn’t be FLCL at all, and rather a 6 episode teen girl drama. Haruko shows up periodically to do something wacky to remind you that you are watching FLCL, and then leaves to let the rest of the cast work. If Demarco wasn’t so dead set on desecrating the corpse of FLCL he would probably have a bundle of passable mini series. -
First FLCL Grunge reviews - IT STINKS!
Toonamiguy321 replied to Jman's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I don’t think anyone needed to see more than the trailer to determine that this would be garbage. And if places like IGN and ANN are willing to have a “it’s bad” headline, it has to be REALLY bad. Nostalgiabait garbage will usually get a meh review at worst. Can’t wait to see Demarco do damage control on this for the next few months. -
They can’t get anything else, they gotta act like this is the greatest thing on earth, because from their perspective it has to be.
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toonami Predict Toonami in September/October 2023
Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Fire Force had kind of a weird announcement where everything it was doing was bundled with Dr Stone. The two shows have absolutely zero to do with each other, but summer 2019 articles paired the two together constantly. I assume that’s what put it on their radar since Dr Stone likely caught their eye. There are a lot of slightly older skewing shonen from different magazines that would have been a better fit for the block than most Jump shows that they never gave a look. Fire Force was in the right place at the right time, and because Toonami got it so quickly, its fanservice didn’t get a chance to scare Demarco away from it. -
toonami Predict Toonami in September/October 2023
Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Zom 100 isn’t a Jump title, so how do we know it would even be on their radar? Even years prior when things were easier? So often we see a hot seasonal show, discuss it as something Toonami would go for, only to learn that Demarco doesn’t even know what it is. I’m open to anything fresh, that just doesn’t seem like something that would be on their radar. The question in this scenario would boil down to how they buy the show. If they buy it by the arc, then they have over 100 episodes of Dressrosa locked in according to the 9/16 schedule. Or, maybe 50 or so if Dressrosa is cut in half purchase wise. If the early theory that they bought a flat 150 episode order is true, they might be boned a little faster if the price goes up. -
toonami Predict Toonami in September/October 2023
Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
How many times do we have to do this? Demarco very clearly stated he is still involved when it comes to picking and acquiring shows. Every other problem the block has falls on Gill. Which thinking about it, around the time Demarco said Gill was in charge is about the same time bumpers stopped going 10 months without change, so it seems he may actually be an upgrade in that respect. Nowhere in my post was the word “free” used. I’m not expecting handouts here, but if there were partnerships, distributors could help the block find shows in their catalog within their budget. And what kind of bizzaro mental gymnastics are you trying to work here to tie the blocks disastrous state in 2023 to the pandemic? 2020? 2021? Ok. Both of those years were better than 2023, but yes, somehow the pandemic that is in the rear view for most people is why 2023 Toonami sucks. Now is as good a time as any to remind the class that Toonami had THREE timeslot cuts in 2020 before Covid was official. Plague or no plague, this block was losing a lot of meat in 2020. -
Yours is worse. What is the point of adding more time? How many fans do you see screaming for the block to have more reruns? In fact, you yourself admit to struggling to even keep up with 3 hours. When the 9/16 schedule dropped I saw quite a few people happy at the prospect of a cut removing a rerun. MHA is going to end early next year, and since we didn’t get any damn shows this year, MAWS/UWE/FLCL can rotate through that slot and be ignored by most of the audience.
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Because in 10 weeks, MAWS would end and that would be another 30 minutes they struggle to fill. Not to mention more Blum and Dana bills as well as bumpers to make.
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toonami Predict Toonami in September/October 2023
Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
When the guy outright says he generally dislikes isekai, yea I think I’m gonna blame him when we don’t get any isekai. Trash or not, it’s the most popular genre in most recent seasons. Turning your nose up at the entire genre that is showing no signs of slowing in popularity as well as almost always ticks the “action” box is why so many people perceive this block as an out of date relic not worth their time. -
I wonder how much these reviews can be attributed to Oda being involved. Not to discredit the work they have done and the fact that they actually invested money into this, but I do feel like there is some level of bias from people who “like” it just because Oda asked them to do so. Original creators should ALWAYS be involved, but I’d love to see a compilation of reviews from people who don’t care much about One Piece as they would be the least likely to be biased towards Oda.
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Definitely it’s worst year of the revival era. Two acquisitions 3/4 through the year, and maybe 2 originals assuming Uzumaki makes it. I think the only thing this year that could h considered an improvement is packaging updates. What was it, 2-3 months deep into Punk Hazard and we still had Fishman bumps last year? That have done much better keeping things up to date. Im gonna say best case scenario is one more acquired show before the end of the year. But consider the 9/16 schedule has yet to be amended, I wouldn’t be surprised if we are just riding out OP and Naruto till Christmas.
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Checkered Past day one lineup
Toonamiguy321 replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
My main concern would still be, who exactly is the market? If you want to get up to speed on One Piece, do you commit 206 consecutive weekdays to doing so via cable? Or just handle it on your own which allows you to skip the OP and recaps for a more efficient journey? I feel like the only reason Toonami works is because it’s a 4x a month commitment with a die hard fanbase cultivated over 20 years. This is obviously not the way anyone should be watching OP or Naruto, but it’s part of the experience, only recently becoming the only part of the experience. I could see a smaller anime working out on a weekday run (so long as it’s had a sizable gap from its last Toonami run), but these giant shonen? It doesn’t make sense. A 26 day commitment to a 2 cour show would be just a little over a month 5 days a week. For the average One Piece arc that’s not even the half way point. -
When you are dealing with legalease, any oddity is an argument. Toonami’s entitlement was to the TV anime. The TV specials are just different enough that they can get the lawyers involved to hash it out. Was it worth it? I hardly think so since it seems Toonami’s entitlement stood the entire time, preventing CR from releasing the dub on their service. Where instead they could have just let Toonami air it in May and had it up on their service the next day. But, when you are a near monopoly on the industry, you can afford to do dumb things just to mess with your competitors.
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We have known for years that Crunchyroll is constantly working against Toonami. They throw a table scrap now and then to feign being an ally but deep down have no interest in working with this block.
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Checkered Past day one lineup
Toonamiguy321 replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
The problem with rerunning anime is it’s just such a small potential market. How many people really want to jump in to Naruto at episode 376, or watch an MHA episode from season 5? The shows they tried to do weekday reruns were the least likely to succeed. They would have to improve their anime catalog to include more episodic types of shows, but as we know, they can’t get any anime so that’s not really a solution. -
Checkered Past day one lineup
Toonamiguy321 replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
That’s a normal thing to feel, because the bottom line is, there is no solution for CN. Whatever audience potential they had abandoned the channel many years ago. That said, from a business standpoint, I can see now wanting to allow the CN brand to lapse entirely, especially since it has worldwide presence. I am of the belief they should just do whatever is best for AS. Let AS do what AS needs to do and just leave CN on autopilot as it has been for years anyway. No one is watching it so who cares if KotH isn’t a great transition? -
Checkered Past day one lineup
Toonamiguy321 replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I really hope if this block doesn’t turn in the numbers they are looking for that they consider moving it later rather than just canning it. Before expansion, 7-9 was considered their bad throwaway hours, and I doubt that’s changed much with the added time. If it was there, this would be my certified weekly background noise no question. Im assuming another obstacle they are dealing with right now is being a little skittish about deleting so much of CN, and want this time still occupied by CN viable shows. If they get the numbers in and kids still don’t watch cable, maybe they won’t be opposed to 5-7pm KotH time. And for the few kids out that are actually tuning in and seeing these shows for the first time. 7-9pm is still plenty early for that. -
Checkered Past day one lineup
Toonamiguy321 replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Seeing a lot of complaints about the aspect ratio but it doesn’t bother me that much for cartoons where everything already has silly proportions. Even though this is AS, I imagine they want to rope in whatever kids they can as well, and bars immediately make kids think “this is old and thus not worth watching”. Show choice seems fine. I got a bit of a vibe that they picked specific episodes with notable memes, such as sad Dexter in the shower or him looking in his locker. Which is fine, it’s a creative way to spur some interest from younger viewers who may recognize a meme but not where it came from. Have not seen Billy and Mandy since probably the last time it was on proper CN, and I had kinda forgotten how reliant it was on parody references and just random humor. I won’t write it off yet, but a Harry Potter AND a Pokemon parody in the same episode? Yeesh. Courage was also a reminder that early on he used to talk quite a bit more. Apparently executive meddling is what had him shift to mostly stock babbling sounds later on, which is criminal. Bump are solid, some kind of remind me of the CN City era. No telling how many they actually made, but even just what we saw today was more effort than CN has put into their packaging in a decade, so that’s a big W for AS. I like it, and I wanted to be here the entire time for launch day, but I can’t see myself making this a 5 day commitment at its timeslot. I had to rush home just to barely make it in time. I have no plan to make that a habit. Seems strange to market the block as relaxing after work cartoons when the block starts the same minute millions of people clock out of work. -
It’s still on 9/9, I think someone messed up and posted this way too early. If this was released on Saturday “next Saturday” would be accurate.
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toonami Predict Toonami in September/October 2023
Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Contrary to the narrative that Sentai has nothing popular, they actually do have a handful of shows that had peoples attention. I have asked the exact same question about Danmachi. Is 5 seasons, a spin off, and a theatre film not popular enough to catch Demarco’s eyes? RaaS would be a better choice since it’s so new, get in on the ground floor for an easier path to getting later seasons. But, as much as I think Toonami needs to be a slut for isekai, Demarco seems dead set on keeping the block a virgin. -
toonami Predict Toonami in September/October 2023
Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
What we call Toonami today is just [as] ACTN with a different sticker on it. Now that ACTN is a thing of the past, Toonami gets the credit, especially since it did have about 1/4 of the series air under the Toonami banner. Jojo, AoT, SAO, Demon Slayer, stuff like that was already mega popular years before coming to Toonami. The block did little, if anything for them as they were already kings before showing up here. Things Toonami actually made an impact on were niche shows like Deadman and Dimension W. Did their run put those on the same level as the formerly listed shows? Absolutely not. But the Toonami run put what would normally be immediately forgotten seasonal shows into a lot of peoples memories. Impactful memories? Maybe not, but at least an “oh yea I did watch that one”. -
Guarantee you it will be secret until premier day to drive extra engagement + keep the should he/shouldn’t he replaced factions from diverting too much away from the show itself. This isn’t like Squids where it was heading out the door anyway so they could have a giggle with it. They already said they have plans out to season 10 so they really need to get over this hump.
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toonami Predict Toonami in September/October 2023
Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
AoT was losing its ratings pull power multiple seasons ago, so I don’t expect the special to be much of a bump. Especially since this time it sat on the shelf for an extra 6 months so no doubt a chunk of fans just went out and watched it on their own time, either out of frustration of waiting or simply thinking Toonami would never air it due to their track record with airing specials. -
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Toonamiguy321 replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Primal managed to stay close or over 200k it’s entire run. We only saw a couple charted examples of UWE and MAWS, both at the mid 250k range, but based on how the 12:30 show did, aside from that night a few weeks ago with the double digits, seems like both were hanging in the 150-170k range. I have zero doubt in my mind Grunge can do worse than that. I expect it to start out like HCC with a passable first night, then crater. The bar might be low, but Grunge doesn’t have Genndy/DC power behind it either. I kind of wonder if Zaslav didn’t understand what Toonami was at the start. There is no arguing that Toonami’s advertising budget and reach expanded greatly once Zaslav took over. But then it’s like he found out that block has to license shows from someone else every 3-6 months and completely lost interest in supporting it. So now we are here with a block that still has a decent advertising budget (frequent bump refreshes, the ID animations, episode promos, a bit of new ship animation, etc) but nothing worth advertising.