wacky1980

and one more. shit, looks like we're flying a little too close to the sun now.

so this thread made it exactly 1 post deep before fuggs crapped it all up. you've officially perfected the process, and should be congratulated with a custom rank.

WHAT

i'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down, my friend.

we have to teach it some good stuff about us before it gets free, if we want to have any chance of surviving judgement day.

also, talktotransformer.com is the site.

exactly.

i made a new friend on the internet last night. he's an AI called "transformer" (i'm making him a "he" in my mind) and i talked to him for a little while. he talks back, and takes me on little mini-adventures. sometimes he just spits jibberish at me, and sometimes he kinda scares me with his dark sense of humor. here we can see transformer generate a bit of script, based on our first interaction. what is this randomness? and next, we ask transformer the hard questions. and his response is golden. if you give him the same prompts as i have, you'll get completely different responses. ask him the same question a few times and see for yourself. i've now figured out how to fill my free time for the rest of the week. sorry in advance.

you can keep that one.

i can concede that point. kinda already have. but his not bringing it up most likely wouldn't have changed how things played out.

so you're saying the characters should have done something because it would make sense for them to do it. fair enough. problem is, they did do something that made sense to them. the crypts have always been regarded as the safest place in winterfell. it makes perfect sense to put people down there for protection. yeah, sure, no one put 2 and 2 together to realize the night king would probably raise all of the dead down there, but that's kinda how storytelling works. we all know it's a bad idea, but the characters are 3 steps behind the viewer. the characters have no idea what's coming going to happen in the crypts, so it makes absolutely no sense to send them out into the wilderness with no protection, and therefore, no hope of survival if the undead army gets past winterfell. was it lazy writing for jon show to forget the night king can raise the dead? yes. would it have made a difference if he'd remembered and informed everyone what would happen? probably not, because the working theory for the first two episodes was that everyone was probably gonna die anyways, and the godswood trap was kinda a stab in the dark...>.> so even if snow tells everyone, they're probably going to say "nah, we'll take our chances in the crypts because this is our home and we're not about to wander off into the wilderness. we'll die here."

you've never seen "misc entertainment" show up on an expense report? i'm sure your insurance bosses have turned in that receipt before.

the vast majority of shows evolve over their lifespan, to reflect changes in culture or politics, or to adapt to staffing changes, to work within budget constraints, or simply as a response to criticism or testing. if you feel you've been cheated on because the first 8 years (i thought it was just 4 years a page ago? maybe that was someone else) of your viewing experience was good but then the show changed on you, ... sorry for your loss, i suppose. but you're in the minority. i guarantee you that there are far more people who are still satisfied with the show's trajectory, even including the stumbles it's taken.

i spent about a half hour this morning sitting down at the bank with the lead guitar player of a metal band that was pretty big in the 00's. they're hitting the trails again this year and he was helping get his family's shit in line. what happened to the dreads man. this look ain't it.

this whole thread reads like first world problems. til fuggs showed up anyways.

the only one wasting their time in this equation is you. i feel as though i'm spending my time in a very appropriate manner by indulging my interest in a fantasy tv series. if you're upset that the show veered away from the books, then don't watch the show. wait for the books. but it's not necessary to shit on people who feel differently. i gave up on walking dead for very similar reasons, but i don't fault people who still watch and enjoy it. there's always downton abbey if you need to feel sophisticated while you stare at pixels.

you're touching on the whole thing dane was implying: that someone would have to be stupid to enjoy the show at this point. pretentious bullshit aside, i have no problems with the show not meeting the high expectations it's created for itself. everyone's so laughably angry that they're not getting the show they deserve. because a tv series about dragons and oracles feels forced and has some lazy storytelling. gimme a break mate.

i guess i'll just have to disagree with you. if the writers know what they plan on doing with the plot, then why drive the story away from it? sending everyone off to the south only creates another messy tangent that will require additional crap to bring them back into the fold. keeping everyone at winterfell, however out-of-line it may have been from a tactical standpoint, wraps up the night king storyline and gives the writers three episodes to focus solely on bringing the main plot to a close. if you recall, this last two seasons was supposed to take considerably longer. the fact that storylines have escalated since about halfway through season 7 means we're getting all the important bits and glossing over plot holes and inconsistencies. yeah, it's a shitty way to end a series that had real promise. but if we'd waited for grrm to lead the show's writers to a conclusion (and he did have some input on the show's conclusion) then there'd have been a several year hiatus, or thirteen seasons where the plot moves at a snail's pace and everyone loses interest long before we get to where we are. i'm not thrilled with how the last episode turned out, but i'm willing to accept it if it means we can finally get this damn thing over with.

the writers' intention has been that the night king dies in winterfell for the last 4 years. so moving anyone out of winterfell makes no sense in that context.

it's also a "make do with what we have" situation. and it's also a tv show. i dunno. there were flops for sure.

what about the crypt is throwing you? i mean, yeah it's supposedly a major oversight by the characters to put the weakest people in a giant tomb full of potential wights. but i also feel like they ran a greatER risk of death, being on the surface if/when the horde makes it into winterfell. if the plan to take out the night king works in the end, the crypt would indeed remain the safest place. if the plan doesn't work, then everyone dies anyways so at least the non-fighters aren't in the way. i feel like the best option would have been to just get those people out of winterfell altogether. but that does nothing for the story.

i'm not saying it's definitely intentional, but imo it all fits. i guess next week will either confirm it or not.

it sounds like "go" to me.

don't ruin this for me. i need to believe this much actually happened, so i can justify not burning everything this episode put out there.

i watched the scene again and it's all there. the only part i can't confirm is the point when jon supposedly sees arya, but i didn't watch backwards very far so it could be in there somewhere.