Daniel Penney

[1pooh4u]

Acquitted of all charges. I thought at least negligent homicide but the people are too afraid to lock him up because next time no one will help

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/daniel-penny-cleared-of-all-charges-in-jordan-neelys-death/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
 

I’m not saying he should serve a life sentence but he did kill a man. He could have subdued him without restricting his airflow.  
 

for those that don’t remember a year ago a mentally ill homeless man, Jordan Neely, started saying frightening things on a NYC subway and appeared to be getting more aggressive with passengers. Penney, a Marine, restrained Neeley and put him in a chokehold. Passengers shouted “let go you’re killing him” but he didn’t and Jordan Neeley died.  

[smiradenius]

11 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Acquitted of all charges. I thought at least negligent homicide but the people are too afraid to lock him up because next time no one will help

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/daniel-penny-cleared-of-all-charges-in-jordan-neelys-death/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
 

I’m not saying he should serve a life sentence but he did kill a man. He could have subdued him without restricting his airflow.  
 

for those that don’t remember a year ago a mentally ill homeless man, Jordan Neely, started saying frightening things on a NYC subway and appeared to be getting more aggressive with passengers. Penney, a Marine, restrained Neeley and put him in a chokehold. Passengers shouted “let go you’re killing him” but he didn’t and Jordan Neeley died.  

I hope this means that a lot more people would be too afraid of consequences when they decide to commandeer a subway car or other public place and start shouting death threats at random strangers.  You can't expect the cops to do their jobs in situations like that because the politicians who tug their strings actually want this sort of chaos and that's the real reason Penny was even charged.

[1pooh4u]

1 hour ago, smiradenius said:

I hope this means that a lot more people would be too afraid of consequences when they decide to commandeer a subway car or other public place and start shouting death threats at random strangers.  You can't expect the cops to do their jobs in situations like that because the politicians who tug their strings actually want this sort of chaos and that's the real reason Penny was even charged.

Fuck off Packard. A mentally ill person likely doesn’t have the control to think in the manner you’re suggesting.  
 

what do you care?  You can’t ride the subway anyway because you don’t pay tax on gasoline for the car you don’t own.  

[smiradenius]

4 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Fuck off Packard. A mentally ill person likely doesn’t have the control to think on the manner you’re suggesting.  
 

what do you care?  You can’t ride the subway anyway because you don’t pay tax on gasoline for the car you don’t own.  

Now comes the mop up.  If Penny should decide to set up a Go Fund Me account to recoup his legal costs, I'm going to be among the very first in line to pay him.  I just hope all the other donations combined are seven to ten times whatever he had lost in this phony trial.  At least that would cover him for the subsequent civil charges against him.

[André Toulon]

A Penny for your totally bat shit thoughts.

Nah, I can do better, don't splice it yet.

[1pooh4u]

46 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Now comes the mop up.  If Penny should decide to set up a Go Fund Me account to recoup his legal costs, I'm going to be among the very first in line to pay him.  I just hope all the other donations combined are seven to ten times whatever he had lost in this phony trial.  At least that would cover him for the subsequent civil charges against him.

No one fuckin cares

[smiradenius]

Just now, 1pooh4u said:

No one fuckin cares

You say that, but I know it just boils your bottom that Penny hasn't been hauled away to serve life in prison.

[discolé monade]

53 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Now comes the mop up.  If Penny should decide to set up a Go Fund Me account to recoup his legal costs, I'm going to be among the very first in line to pay him.  I just hope all the other donations combined are seven to ten times whatever he had lost in this phony trial.  At least that would cover him for the subsequent civil charges against him.

oh...so now your advocating for the slaughter of the mentally ill.

man...you are a piece of work. 

[1pooh4u]

3 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

You say that, but I know it just boils your bottom that Penny hasn't been hauled away to serve life in prison.

No, did I not say in my very first post that I don’t think he should get a life sentence?  Yes I did in fact say that.  
 

You keep playing “village idiot” in every thread you’re gonna find yourself put on break. 

[smiradenius]

1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said:

No, did I not say in my very first post that I don’t think he should get a life sentence?  Yes I did in fact say that.  
 

You keep playing “village idiot” in every thread you’re gonna find yourself put on break. 

So, you want him thrown into a wood chipper?

[1pooh4u]

1 minute ago, smiradenius said:

So, you want him thrown into a wood chipper?

Goodbye 

[1pooh4u]

Ok now we can seriously talk about the contradiction in the way I want Penny punished in some way but I don’t want the UHC perp to get any punishment at all 

[stilgar]

23 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Ok now we can seriously talk about the contradiction in the way I want Penny punished in some way but I don’t want the UHC perp to get any punishment at all 

I don't see the contradiction. One guy killed a living feeling person in cold blood and the other exterminated a ceo. Not even remotely the same.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

Acquitted of all charges. I thought at least negligent homicide but the people are too afraid to lock him up because next time no one will help

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/daniel-penny-cleared-of-all-charges-in-jordan-neelys-death/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
 

I’m not saying he should serve a life sentence but he did kill a man. He could have subdued him without restricting his airflow.  
 

for those that don’t remember a year ago a mentally ill homeless man, Jordan Neely, started saying frightening things on a NYC subway and appeared to be getting more aggressive with passengers. Penney, a Marine, restrained Neeley and put him in a chokehold. Passengers shouted “let go you’re killing him” but he didn’t and Jordan Neeley died.  

I'll play so Packard can go back to being a pedophile under the boardwalk instead of bothering us.

Neely most certainly did not deserve to die, let alone like that.  At the same time, I also think Penney was being made something of a scapegoat for a bigger problem and that clouded the prosecution of his case.  Neely wasn't merely saying frightening things, he was threatening people even though he was doing so out of extreme mental illness.  Penney, despite being a Marine, was not trained in non-lethal and non-restraining deescalation techniques and should never have been in a position where he would have to use them.  Violence on public transit has become a pronounced problem across the country.  It was always going to be a recipe for disaster and an extremely problematic thing to prosecute because of all the extenuating causes.

[1pooh4u]

4 minutes ago, stilgar said:

I don't see the contradiction. One guy killed a living feeling person in cold blood and the other exterminated a ceo. Not even remotely the same.

No, but seriously I don’t think Penny killed the guy in cold blood. I believe he believes he was protecting himself and others. The CEO killer probably was thinking the same. I guess I am putting more value on the life of Jordan Neely than Brian Thompson cuz I give no fucks about it. 

[1pooh4u]

I’m not liking Penny. He should not be celebrating his win at a bar with his lawyers. He killed a man, regardless of circumstances. Plus that dbag from the WI Kyle Rittenhouse, murder is congratulating him too

[1pooh4u]

26 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

I'll play so Packard can go back to being a pedophile under the boardwalk instead of bothering us.

Neely most certainly did not deserve to die, let alone like that.  At the same time, I also think Penney was being made something of a scapegoat for a bigger problem and that clouded the prosecution of his case.  Neely wasn't merely saying frightening things, he was threatening people even though he was doing so out of extreme mental illness.  Penney, despite being a Marine, was not trained in non-lethal and non-restraining deescalation techniques and should never have been in a position where he would have to use them.  Violence on public transit has become a pronounced problem across the country.  It was always going to be a recipe for disaster and an extremely problematic thing to prosecute because of all the extenuating causes.

This is especially true because this incident wasn’t long after that maniac who shot up a crowded R train 

[naraku360]

2 hours ago, smiradenius said:

I hope this means that a lot more people would be too afraid of consequences when they decide to commandeer a subway car or other public place and start shouting death threats at random strangers.  You can't expect the cops to do their jobs in situations like that because the politicians who tug their strings actually want this sort of chaos and that's the real reason Penny was even charged.

You are seriously one stupid motherfucker.

[scoobdog]

6 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m not liking Penny. He should not be celebrating his win at a bar with his lawyers. He killed a man, regardless of circumstances. Plus that dbag from the WI murder is congratulating him too

Instead of celebrating, he should be volunteering at the local VA.  A lot of his fellow Marines are experiencing homelessness and mental health issues.  You better believe he wouldn't be a hero if the person he choked out was a veteran.

[André Toulon]

Oh. Well it'll be quiet for a bit I guess. 

Sayonara, Slingblade-san😓

[1pooh4u]

7 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Instead of celebrating, he should be volunteering at the local VA.  A lot of his fellow Marines are experiencing homelessness and mental health issues.  You better believe he wouldn't be a hero if the person he choked out was a veteran.

He’s probably gonna appear on Kyle Rittenhouse’s podcast instead.  Rittenhouse probably feels a kinship w Penny that he really shouldn’t feel. Rittenhouse went looking for trouble with his weapons. Penny didn’t set out that day to start shit. Rittenhouse got away with murder. Penny with negligent homicide. 

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

He’s probably gonna appear on Kyle Rittenhouse’s podcast instead.  Rittenhouse probably feels a kinship w Penny that he really shouldn’t feel. Rittenhouse went looking for trouble with his weapons. Penny didn’t set out that day to start shit. Rittenhouse got away with murder. Penny with negligent homicide. 

Of course Rittenhouse would slither in.

[MasqueradeOverture]

12 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

Ok now we can seriously talk about the contradiction in the way I want Penny punished in some way but I don’t want the UHC perp to get any punishment at all 

Or better yet, a copycat UHC perp comes along...

[molarbear]

16 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

Acquitted of all charges. I thought at least negligent homicide but the people are too afraid to lock him up because next time no one will help

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/daniel-penny-cleared-of-all-charges-in-jordan-neelys-death/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
 

I’m not saying he should serve a life sentence but he did kill a man. He could have subdued him without restricting his airflow.  
 

for those that don’t remember a year ago a mentally ill homeless man, Jordan Neely, started saying frightening things on a NYC subway and appeared to be getting more aggressive with passengers. Penney, a Marine, restrained Neeley and put him in a chokehold. Passengers shouted “let go you’re killing him” but he didn’t and Jordan Neeley died.  

You know

I have thought about this a lot today.  On one hand someone was acting erratically scaring the shit out of people and someone subdued them due to lack of any presence of law enforcement being around.

I want to say he should know better than to keep a choke hold on someone for 6 mins, but at the same time it didn't look like anyone was helping him subdue the guy. I can see the mindset of "if I let go of this guy and he wakes up before help shows up, I could be f**ked" He's not a trained professional though, we've seen alleged professional law enforcement murder people at a scary high rate over the last decade.

I cannot fault this guy for accidentally killing the person he subdued, even though I'm angry someone died. Does that make sense? My frustration isn't with the person acquitted, it's with a society that stigmatized mental health issues for so long no one has any idea how to address, react, or deal with someone in those situations normally; and our Nation continues to do very little to address it.

 

 

[1pooh4u]

10 hours ago, MasqueradeOverture said:

Or better yet, a copycat UHC perp comes along...

The hero

we deserve rn 

[1pooh4u]

7 hours ago, molarbear said:

You know

I have thought about this a lot today.  On one hand someone was acting erratically scaring the shit out of people and someone subdued them due to lack of any presence of law enforcement being around.

I want to say he should know better than to keep a choke hold on someone for 6 mins, but at the same time it didn't look like anyone was helping him subdue the guy. I can see the mindset of "if I let go of this guy and he wakes up before help shows up, I could be f**ked" He's not a trained professional though, we've seen alleged professional law enforcement murder people at a scary high rate over the last decade.

I cannot fault this guy for accidentally killing the person he subdued, even though I'm angry someone died. Does that make sense? My frustration isn't with the person acquitted, it's with a society that stigmatized mental health issues for so long no one has any idea how to address, react, or deal with someone in those situations normally; and our Nation continues to do very little to address it.

 

 

I get that. I feel similarly it’s just that I can’t help but think the obvious “now we’re letting any white person kill any black person they find frightening”  when the jury got hung I figured once they removed manslaughter they would find negligent homicide but they didn’t. No one wants to be the next one on a subway with a ranting person that might get violent and no one helps.  
 

meanwhile Luigi Mangione will get thrown in prison for life (probably)

[katt_goddess]

17 hours ago, MasqueradeOverture said:

Or better yet, a copycat UHC perp comes along...

Everyone is now Spartacus!

[1pooh4u]

Daniel Penny is garbage and any statement he makes insisting he doesn’t want to be political is bullshit 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-vance-attend-army-navy-game-daniel-penny/story?id=116774267

[smiradenius]

Except that Neely's neck showed no evidence of trauma during the medical examination.

[1pooh4u]

36 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Except that Neely's neck showed no evidence of trauma during the medical examination.

That’s not true at all plus there’s video footage of him holding him in a choke hold. Don’t come in here basing your comments on shit the defense pathologist said. Defense attorneys shop around or actually have pathologists on retainer to muddy shit up and say what the defense wants them to.  

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna179940

[MasqueradeOverture]

58 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Except that Neely's neck showed no evidence of trauma during the medical examination.

cunt

[smiradenius]

1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

That’s not true at all plus there’s video footage of him holding him in a choke hold. Don’t come in here basing your comments on shit the defense pathologist said. Defense attorneys shop around or actually have pathologists on retainer to muddy shit up and say what the defense wants them to.  

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna179940

It still doesn't negate the fact that there was no trauma to the neck.  Somebody on the state's side of this trial should have at least found a damaged hyoid.  Also, Why did Harris decide to ignore the drug intoxication?

[1pooh4u]

8 hours ago, smiradenius said:

It still doesn't negate the fact that there was no trauma to the neck.  Somebody on the state's side of this trial should have at least found a damaged hyoid.  Also, Why did Harris decide to ignore the drug intoxication?

The medical examiner, the one who actually looked over the body did so find trauma. Not even the defense said there wasn’t, just that the hold didn’t cause his death, or wasn’t the only cause 
 

The ME found compression to the neck as the only cause of death. The hyoid bone doesn’t have to break to die from asphyxiation. She “ignored” the findings of synthetic marijuana because that didn’t kill him. The defense was playing the same games as they did with George Floyd and what morons did during COVID. “Covid didn’t kill them. They had COPD!”  “Choking Neely didn’t kill him. He was a schizophrenic with a blood disorder!” Yeah who would have lived if not for being restrained by the neck. Just quit while you’re ahead and stop arguing things no one was even saying in the first place 

Edited December 15 by 1pooh4u

[André Toulon]

45 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

It still doesn't negate the fact that there was no trauma to the neck.  Somebody on the state's side of this trial should have at least found a damaged hyoid.  Also, Why did Harris decide to ignore the drug intoxication?

Dammit, you are determined to lose this account...fuck it, I guess it's the only way I'd stop so maybe it's for the best.

[1pooh4u]

4 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Dammit, you are determined to lose this account...fuck it, I guess it's the only way I'd stop so maybe it's for the best.

He’s like the jurors. Easily distracted by a fact that isn’t necessary to die from a chokehold. I can guarantee the jurors understood that Penny killed him they just felt he was justified in doing it. 

[katt_goddess]

1 hour ago, smiradenius said:

It still doesn't negate the fact that there was no trauma to the neck.  Somebody on the state's side of this trial should have at least found a damaged hyoid.  Also, Why did Harris decide to ignore the drug intoxication?

Dude, I could pull that same move on someone and not break the hyoid [ which I'm sure you just looked up ]. I'm just not stupid enough to hold on past the 30 seconds it takes to knock someone out with that because anything longer than 60 seconds is murder. 

Further, it was a black dude. Do you think that bruises turn white on black skin? Do you think that non-glowing bruises mean they totally aren't there somehow so nothing bad could have possibly happened? This is a very slippery slope you are standing on right now and you are wearing roller skates. 

[discolé monade]

garbage human being, saluting a garbage human. good job. 

[MasqueradeOverture]

6 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

Dude, I could pull that same move on someone and not break the hyoid [ which I'm sure you just looked up ]. I'm just not stupid enough to hold on past the 30 seconds it takes to knock someone out with that because anything longer than 60 seconds is murder. 

Further, it was a black dude. Do you think that bruises turn white on black skin? Do you think that non-glowing bruises mean they totally aren't there somehow so nothing bad could have possibly happened? This is a very slippery slope you are standing on right now and you are wearing roller skates. 

I'll give him two more posts before he drops the n word