Sodakandy Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) Weird stuff is going on in the media these days. I think we all knew that hollyweird is and always was...well, WEIRD, but I never predicted the pop cultural times we're in at the moment. I'm a millennial and it's shocking to see the pop culture world that I once knew implode in front of my eyes. I thought people were desperate to tie Jay in the Diddy stuff at first, but since that press conference yesterday when they announced another high profiled person involved, it has my attention now. Ofc Jay-Z has admitted to being a gangsta in his music, but I genuinely think he has cleaned up his act over the years. I thimk he grew up from his industry peers and continued to make investment and investment in the right places and settled down with his family. I always saw some of the backlash he gets as a mixture of jealousy and bad blood, especially with Wayne, Nicki, and Dame, but since the press conference gave details on who this other person is, I'm not sure what to think now. (Edit: I think the media is doing a terrible job telling the public that more A listers are likely going to be implicated. I wish they would stop playing 'Who is it?' and ' Guess who?" Release the names or just stfu until you have all your i-s dotted and t-s crossed. To me it's completely irresponsible on the way they're going about this because it's not only is it unfair to the celebrities who had attended his parties that did not participate in the Freak-offs who are being accused, but I can only imagine how hard victims must feel at this time while anticipating the names of their abusers to be dropped. Also the lawyer didn't specify whether this other high profiled celebrity is a victim or a preparator, but only described this person in being on the tapes and trying to buy them off, so it's all a mess right now.) Very few of Diddy's peers are billionaires and Jay-Z seems to fall under the description they gave amongst a few other people, and they already revealed that it's not a politician 🤯...This is starting to get serious now ngl. (You see what they were trying to do in the second thumbnail or is it just me??? What is Law&Crime implying here?) And now they have Jaguar Wright, a former rising popstar and someone deemed as "a crazy person" on mainstream outlets like Piers Morgan??!! It seems like we're on the horizon of an era where conspiracy theorists are blowing up on social media almost like a postmortem period of the internet that we once knew from the last decade. Diddy and Jay were friends, so I understand where the Diddy theories regarding Jay and the Aaliyah ones are coming from (not to say they're true), but now Tiktok conspiracy theorists are now saying ridiculous thing like Beyonce killed Tupac and Left Eye 😆. Social media really needs to crackdown on the conspiracy content to prevent these rumors and unconfirmed details from spreading wildly. It's just a crazy and weird time we're living in that I never thought I would see with these celebrities that I grew up with. If Jay-Z really did something then he should be held accountable, but my fear is those that are building Diddy's case are possibly making calculative moves by trying to get through Beyonce to scare her into getting whatever they're suspicious about with Jay-Z. They're already spamming her IG, which is weird because she clearly doesn't run her social media accounts, her publicists does, but regardless I still think this whole forced "Jay-Z is next!!1" movement maybe more calculated than it leads on. They also know that her mother is active on social media and defends Bey on there these days, so I really don't know what's going to happen atp. This is all scary to me because Beyonce has always been my favorite popstar. I've been a fan of her and Destiny's Child as long as I can remember and grew up with their cultural impact, so it's hard to see her name growing bigger in this controversy each day. As someone who believe that she's a good person, I think if this is calculated then it's kind of unfair to Beyonce, however I don't know her personally at the end of the day. I'm not one to put past anything by anyone, and absolutely no one is above consequences imo so I think we all have to keep that in mind. I think I will always love Beyonce, just like I love MJ in his scandal in the early 00's, but idk...I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst, because you never know, so we'll see how this goes because this stuff about her and her husband is starting to spread like wildfire... Edit: Words and other edits. Edited October 11 by Sodakandy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Fighting media conspirators with your own snap judgement conspiracy....Solid plan, let's see how this plays out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 My immediate reaction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_annoying_one Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Holy wall of text and videos, Batman! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 7 hours ago, André Toulon said: Fighting media conspirators with your own snap judgement conspiracy....Solid plan, let's see how this plays out. Hmmm...I'm not sure if you're talking about me, Jag or Piers Morgan here 🤔...I'm didn't say that I believed any of Jay-Z and Beyonce's conspiracies,I'm just saying that I'm aware of them, especially those conspiracies about Jay and Aaliyah. Those conspiracies have been around since I was a little girl. But yes... We'll see how this situation goes. I'm really curious to see how this will all turn out because at the very least if Bey and Jay are innocent in this, then I expect them to at least sue Piers for giving Jag and Vlad a platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I don't believe you're really Sodakandy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 36 minutes ago, naraku360 said: I don't believe you're really Sodakandy. Just for today, I want to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) On 10/3/2024 at 11:29 AM, Sodakandy said: Hmmm...I'm not sure if you're talking about me, Jag or Piers Morgan here 🤔...I'm didn't say that I believed any of Jay-Z and Beyonce's conspiracies,I'm just saying that I'm aware of them, especially those conspiracies about Jay and Aaliyah. Those conspiracies have been around since I was a little girl. But yes... We'll see how this situation goes. I'm really curious to see how this will all turn out because at the very least if Bey and Jay are innocent in this, then I expect them to at least sue Piers for giving Jag and Vlad a platform. Yeah you, there has been no reason to implicate Jay and you went ham with why you think it's him based on the testimony of a woman YOU deemed crazy. Because I've not heard anyone who wasn't on Jay dick say she was crazy...most say she knows too much and is going to wind up "missing" Just because you obviously haven't actually been keeping up with news and letting social media poison you into believing it's Jay, the A-lister in question has been alluded to possibly being underage in the said video still. Jay hasn't been underage for like 50 years. So I've given you new info.....go formulate a new conspiracy with it Edited October 5 by André Toulon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 people have been dismissing jaguar, but see 'they' dismissed Cassie too. i'm genually concerned for jaguar, because sh'e not only spilling, she's been tsunami'ing that shit. for a good while. katt williams, same thing. i hope combs rots. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 8 minutes ago, discolé monade said: people have been dismissing jaguar, but see 'they' dismissed Cassie too. i'm genually concerned for jaguar, because sh'e not only spilling, she's been tsunami'ing that shit. for a good while. katt williams, same thing. i hope combs rots. Mfer hate to see these clowns they propped up for years fall. Can't stand that they are shit people that do shit things. And yup, Beyonce too....can't believe the amount of shit her fans let her get away with ...she tried to ruin the original members of Destiny's Child when they wanted to get paid what she did....replaced their ass and had them blackballed but Latoya was too talented to go away. She'll never be mainstream but she's doing ok. Dared Kelly to stand up for Michelle and basically cut ties to be solo. Again, Kelly is ok...Michelle is probably good too, just not a billionaire. But if it were up to Bet and her connections, they'd never work again. I never liked that glory hog and while I seriously doubt this Diddy shit is a reason to be "scared for Beyonce" she and Jay punk asses are shit people. just like Diddy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 for those that got the Diddy playlist...time to dump that chump and get onto the new wave of music...old school style. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) LMAO not 50 with an actual documentary HE'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR OVER A DECADE!!! ya'll YA'LL! imagine hating someone SO much...you made a doc. about them. fucking commitment I tell's ya'. DIDDY DO IT. YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!! oh. and fuck Beyonce. Edited October 5 by discolé monade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 On 10/4/2024 at 10:15 PM, André Toulon said: Yeah you, there has been no reason to implicate Jay and you went ham with why you think it's him based on the testimony of a woman YOU deemed crazy. Because I've not heard anyone who wasn't on Jay dick say she was crazy...most say she knows too much and is going to wind up "missing" Just because you obviously haven't actually been keeping up with news and letting social media poison you into believing it's Jay, the A-lister in question has been alluded to possibly being underage in the said video still. Jay hasn't been underage for like 50 years. So I've given you new info.....go formulate a new conspiracy with it I made this thread before the NY post article releasing more info on this high profile celebrities that said that he was younger. You're right, this suspected celeb doesn't look to be Jay-Z. I honestly think you read my stance in the OP wrong. I'm not sure if Jay-Z is involved with Diddy crimes or not, and I said that clearly in the OP. Jay-Z has not been implicated in anyway, you are right about that and I don't think I ever said that he was. I only said that he was suspected by social media and Jaguar Wright. I thought I made that clear, but sorry if you interrupted that way, so next time I'll try to be more clear about what I'm saying. I'm saying a lot of things, but mainly I'm expressing my fears for Beyonce's career since people are trying to string her and her husband into Diddy's mess. Jay-Z has also been getting a string of bad press lately with Nicki leaving cryptic messages on Twitter about him, famous people defending Wayne's Superbowl "snub," rappers and rapper adjacents going on nameless youtube interviews expressing their dislike for him, Jaguar Wright who's now slowly making it to mainstream, and conspiracies theorist who are trying to tie him and his wife to Diddy's stuff. Again, I'm not sure what Jay-Z has going on, and I can't say he's guilty of being involved with Diddy's crimes, but Jay-Z aside, I'm definitely on Beyonce's side here, and I thought I made that clear in the OP too. I think it's unfair to her that social media is running wild with conspiracies formed against her, when for all we know, she's likely innocent in all of this. Have you seen Beyonce's social media lately? I'm sure Bey has never cared about social media too much since it's clearly being ran by her publicists, but the comments for the past week have been crazy and excessive. They're accusing her of k!ll!ng other celebrities, and being a part of Diddy's crimes without proof. It's insane, and surprisingly it's progressively getting worse each day. Even on Levi's IG account, the comments are criticizing them for chosing her to collab with and my fear is that Levi's will part ways with her if this social media conspiracies and comments against her get worse. It may become a bigger thing where it may get out of control to the point where more companies aren't going to collab with her just based on the comments against her on the company's page (Levi's). For example, if she's getting bad comments, then I'm afraid that the companies she's collaborating with or sponsors her independent products will interpret this spam of negative comments that she's currently receiving as "bad for business." Hopefully she and her team can come up with a solution to try to keep the conspiracies from running rampant on all social media platforms, and I hope they do something soon before it gets to the point where they can't control it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 On 10/5/2024 at 5:23 AM, discolé monade said: people have been dismissing jaguar, but see 'they' dismissed Cassie too. i'm genually concerned for jaguar, because sh'e not only spilling, she's been tsunami'ing that shit. for a good while. katt williams, same thing. i hope combs rots. Yeah, I do find that really sad that people are quick to write Jaguar off. I'm not sure how credible she is, but I would honestly rather hear what she has to say than hearing what fans of these celebrities have to say on social media, because after all, she actually worked in the industry for a little bit back in the day, so I would say it's very possible that what she's saying has at least some truth in it if not more. They call her "crazy" or what have you, but considering the trauma she's expressed through interviews, I'm not sure how people would expect someone like her who has been through so much to act, and I think her naysayers are overlooking that point. If I was traumatized like that then I would probably be messed up and a bit cooky too, more than I am now I must admit lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 On 10/5/2024 at 5:38 AM, André Toulon said: Mfer hate to see these clowns they propped up for years fall. Can't stand that they are shit people that do shit things. And yup, Beyonce too....can't believe the amount of shit her fans let her get away with ...she tried to ruin the original members of Destiny's Child when they wanted to get paid what she did....replaced their ass and had them blackballed but Latoya was too talented to go away. She'll never be mainstream but she's doing ok. Dared Kelly to stand up for Michelle and basically cut ties to be solo. Again, Kelly is ok...Michelle is probably good too, just not a billionaire. But if it were up to Bet and her connections, they'd never work again. I never liked that glory hog and while I seriously doubt this Diddy shit is a reason to be "scared for Beyonce" she and Jay punk asses are shit people. just like Diddy. Wait, you're confusing me now... Didn't you just criticize me because you thought that I was accusing Jay-Z of being guilty along with Diddy's crimes without proof? Now you're saying eff Jay-Z, Beyonce, and their fandoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 What New York post article...I got the shit off the radio....on DL Hughley's show no less. That shit was public before you made this thread. New York post doesn't come out after noon And I'm not reading more of the same crap...I got through the first two paragraphs and nah. You're still just telling me what social media is saying...Beyonce can go to hell....but not because Jay has anything to do with any of this, but because she's an awful as shit person 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 4 minutes ago, Sodakandy said: Wait, you're confusing me now... Didn't you just criticize me because you thought that I was accusing Jay-Z of being guilty along with Diddy's crimes without proof? Now you're saying eff Jay-Z, Beyonce, and their fandoms? You.....can't be this slow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Ok...let's do this one at a time. 1. Jay and the Diddy thing are not currently related in any way other that Internet jackasses running with info from other Internet jackasses. 2. Jay is a POS who has definitely screwed people over, was fucking Foxy when she was a kid, and even Beyonce was 17 when he started sniffing around her ..so while he is indeed a fucking sex offender, it has nothing to do with diddler. 3. Beyonce is a piece of steaming shit too for all the reasons I've listed but "being scared" for Beyonce based on what you read on social media is goofy. Are you caught up now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 On 10/5/2024 at 5:38 AM, André Toulon said: And yup, Beyonce too....can't believe the amount of shit her fans let her get away with ...she tried to ruin the original members of Destiny's Child when they wanted to get paid what she did....replaced their ass and had them blackballed but Latoya was too talented to go away. She'll never be mainstream but she's doing ok. Dared Kelly to stand up for Michelle and basically cut ties to be solo. Again, Kelly is ok...Michelle is probably good too, just not a billionaire. But if it were up to Bet and her connections, they'd never work again. I'm not sure about the estranged DC members being blackballed or not, but Letoya Luckett had a single in the mid 00's that I do remember and it charted on the billboard and played on radio stations. I'm not sure about your take on Kelly Rowland either, however as someone who grew up in the south where colorism and prejudices are intensified, I think I see where you're going with this. Because of my personal southern experience, I always thought that Beyonce's parents fed into the colorist dynamic to prop their daughter up and I do think they deserved criticism for that. They knew exactly what they were doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) Omfg Wdh Edited October 6 by André Toulon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 8 minutes ago, André Toulon said: What New York post article...I got the shit off the radio....on DL Hughley's show no less. That shit was public before you made this thread. New York post doesn't come out after noon I wasn't aware of that specific detail being out until the NY post posted it, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 22 minutes ago, Sodakandy said: I wasn't aware of that specific detail being out until the NY post posted it, sorry. You know what, it's fine...I won't bother you again. I apologize also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 20 hours ago, André Toulon said: Omfg Wdh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 35 minutes ago, discolé monade said: Didn't she kill her pet bird? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 ok..maybe i understand the whole jay z thing. he lined up combs. just like he lined up all the others, and in some cases, took their women. iono. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 I think I'm on Beyonce's side for the most part with the Peirs Morgan thing, but I do think it's interesting that their attorney demanded an apology from Piers, but not from Jaguar? I get that people think she has no money, but I still find that strange since she's a huge source of their conspiracies, so why can't they at least send a cease and desist to her? Tbh I don't know how I feel about all of this now. It's getting very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted December 11 Author Share Posted December 11 And here we are. I honestly thought they were going to dodge the Diddy stuff but boy I was wrong. I'm surprised that this made the media this time. Tony Busbee seems scammy to me. To name and try to take down Jay-Z is pretty bold. He better have substantial proof to go after a big name like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 I miss Packard 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 “I’m growing weary of responding to this kind of trash,” Buzbee went on to say. “Jay Z’s team is desperate and seemingly out of control. Their investigators have recently been caught on tape offering current clients of our firm one thousand dollars to sue our firm. This conduct is reprehensible and illegal. There will be consequences coming soon.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 7 hours ago, André Toulon said: I miss Packard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 9 hours ago, André Toulon said: I miss Packard Did he get banned again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 35 minutes ago, mthor said: Did he get banned again? Yeah, too dumb to read the warning that got him beat up 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 15 hours ago, Sodakandy said: And here we are. I honestly thought they were going to dodge the Diddy stuff but boy I was wrong. I'm surprised that this made the media this time. Tony Busbee seems scammy to me. To name and try to take down Jay-Z is pretty bold. He better have substantial proof to go after a big name like this. We need Ja to make sense of all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted December 12 Author Share Posted December 12 17 hours ago, discolé monade said: “I’m growing weary of responding to this kind of trash,” Buzbee went on to say. “Jay Z’s team is desperate and seemingly out of control. Their investigators have recently been caught on tape offering current clients of our firm one thousand dollars to sue our firm. This conduct is reprehensible and illegal. There will be consequences coming soon.” He better have the receipts to back his and the victim's claims up. Again, Jay-Z is a pretty big name with a lot of supporters and industry power, so if Buzbee is scamming then he's going to be obliterated in court. On the other hand tho, he's still standing his ground on this, so maybe he has damning evidence after all. I guess we'll see how this goes... I hope this doesn't effect Beyonce's halftime show. Like her or not, if her husband is found guillty then at the very least she deserve to go out with a bang. She is still one of my favorite entertainers of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 I'm not sure why there any wonder about whether or not he did this. Bro was fucking Foxy Brown when she was 16... probably younger. It's common knowledge and a fact but no one has ever brought up charges or evidence of it. For another female artist under his eye to claim the same isn't an eyebrow raiser, it's an of course. But I can't help to think this is about money to help smooth over a voluntary, albeit illegal act on both parties since it's only a civil suit. Not sure why this would make anyone keep screaming about Beyonce in all of this, but also not sure why she deserves to go out with a bang. She a bitch, and hurt a lot of people, but as far as this sexual assault shit, I'll put my right ass cheek on the line that she was a victim as well...maybe the only one smart enough to force him into a marriage lest he be exposed.....but just like everything else in this thread, it's just talk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted December 12 Author Share Posted December 12 Beyoncé's BeyGood charity donates $100K to Houston law center amid Jay-Z rape accusations EXCLUSIVE: Jay-Z's $5M 'Groveling Sorry Ring Gift' to Beyoncé — Rapper Fuels Rumors He Upgraded Shellshocked Wife's Engagement Band 'To Pay For' Child Rape Scandal Boy I can only imagine what's going on in the Carter's house right now 😬. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Imagination is what got you here, no sense in abandoning that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodakandy Posted December 15 Author Share Posted December 15 If Buzbee can't counter these inconsistencies then he's SCREWED! I'm convinced that he thought Jay-Z would pay up to save himself from public embarrassment from these allegations, but boy Buzbee was wrong. Jay is willing to fight this and I don't blame him one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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