Predict Toonami in 2024

[Toonamiguy321]

7 hours ago, Sketch said:

Hard to imagine Toei would make Crunchyroll wait until January to start streaming the dub exclusively (or shared with Hulu and/or Netflix) when it's already in production and has been for weeks. December maybe. It would sure suck if streamers got it in December and Toonami didn't till January or later but that's up to the whims of Toei.

Well, how long did we have to wait for a Super dub? I don’t think Toei is against waiting a little when it comes to the dub. If they free it from theaters after Thanksgiving weekend, that only puts it an extra 1-2 episodes behind.

[Sketch]

11 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Well, how long did we have to wait for a Super dub? I don’t think Toei is against waiting a little when it comes to the dub. If they free it from theaters after Thanksgiving weekend, that only puts it an extra 1-2 episodes behind.

We can't really base Toei's choices this time by what they did with Super because Super was when they were very stuck in their old ways and they didn't even simulcast the show in Japanese until the Goku Black arc. They're already doing something very unexpected by offering the dub in theaters a month after the Japanese broadcast starts. Given it's 3 episodes, that will put them just a few weeks behind the simulcast.

They're also less than 30 episodes behind the sub with the dub of One Piece and that was unthinkable a few years ago. But it really depends on the show because most of the time they still wait a long time before dubbing things that aren't Dragon Ball or One Piece, even Digimon shows tend to take a while to get dubbed.

Daima's dub is obviously a priority since the dub is already in production and I'm sure CR and other streamers would pay good money to get the dub on before next year and so would Adult Swim (even though they most likely can't outbid the streamers). It's a 20 episode show so it will lose it's luster much sooner than Super which ran 131 episodes and that also means the dub isn't nearly as much of a commitment and production delays shouldn't be a big concern either.

And regardless of how well the screening does in theaters, they probably already have a finalized dub roll out set which will be announced soon (possibly during the theatrical premiere). Oh dang how cool would it be if at the end of theatrical screening they played a Toonami made promo announcing the show will start airing soon? That would be fantastic promotion!

It would be more reasonable to expect Daima to air in January or even December (possibly without weeks off) but November 16th, 23rd and even 30th aren't out of the running just yet.

[OwlChemist81]

I think the plan long-term might be to replace Kai with Daima on Saturday nights, since in the short term, they have replaced it with One Piece on October 19th:

 

Personally, I don't feel there is any good reason to run Kai on both blocks. Hopefully they do Double One Piece on November 2nd, or, even better, pull IGPX REMASTERED out of hiatus at a half-decent timeslot with Season 2 at 1:30 AM?

[Sketch]

I dunno about replacing it with Daima exactly but they are now going to be behind Rewind so they might as well pull Kai off Saturday.

And they decided to let One Piece air instead of prioritizing a rerun, which is how it should be.

[Toonamiguy321]

19 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

I think the plan long-term might be to replace Kai with Daima on Saturday nights, since in the short term, they have replaced it with One Piece on October 19th:

 

Personally, I don't feel there is any good reason to run Kai on both blocks. Hopefully they do Double One Piece on November 2nd, or, even better, pull IGPX REMASTERED out of hiatus at a half-decent timeslot with Season 2 at 1:30 AM?

Interesting change to make last second. My guess is the main goal here is bringing the block back to 3 hours once the schedules settle, and Kai is leaving to accomplish that goal. As you say, the long term goal might be replacing our DB fix with Daima, but with MHA keeping pace over Halloween, I’d say S7 is their current priority. 
 

They are still hiding the 11/2 schedule for some reason, which probably won’t drop till Friday, so that either has a curveball or MHA burnoff.

[brianycpht]

3 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Interesting change to make last second. My guess is the main goal here is bringing the block back to 3 hours once the schedules settle, and Kai is leaving to accomplish that goal. As you say, the long term goal might be replacing our DB fix with Daima, but with MHA keeping pace over Halloween, I’d say S7 is their current priority. 
 

They are still hiding the 11/2 schedule for some reason, which probably won’t drop till Friday, so that either has a curveball or MHA burnoff.

Which to me is just dumb. They do this on purpose to “keep suspense” so they can announce it on a platform no one uses anymore 

 

 

[Toonamiguy321]

3 hours ago, brianycpht said:

Which to me is just dumb. They do this on purpose to “keep suspense” so they can announce it on a platform no one uses anymore 

 

 

Yea i really don’t get it. IFG was announced and will very likely be the only new thing on 11/2 so I really don’t see the need to hold out. There is no suspense, we already know what’s happening. Earlier this year they had been doing good with prompt schedule updates, but now when it counts they are falling off again.

[Sketch]

I was told today that the Daima theatrical run is set to be just 3 days in one week. So November 16th on Toonami is plenty viable.

This week is NYCC and Aniplex has a panel so if Demon Slayer is trucking onward on November 2nd or 11th we will hear about that there before the schedules post.

You’d think if they had MHA S7 lined up that they would be able to announce that by now without issue since the dub is 2 eps away from finished on CR. Though I would not put it past CR to hold it at bay until after those last 2 eps are up.

[brianycpht]

10 hours ago, Sketch said:

I was told today that the Daima theatrical run is set to be just 3 days in one week. So November 16th on Toonami is plenty viable.

This week is NYCC and Aniplex has a panel so if Demon Slayer is trucking onward on November 2nd or 11th we will hear about that there before the schedules post.

You’d think if they had MHA S7 lined up that they would be able to announce that by now without issue since the dub is 2 eps away from finished on CR. Though I would not put it past CR to hold it at bay until after those last 2 eps are up.

Question is: will TOEI even let Toonami tell people they are airing it until after the theater premiere? They might have a fear people will not go if they know it’ll be airing 

[Toonamiguy321]

11 hours ago, Sketch said:

I was told today that the Daima theatrical run is set to be just 3 days in one week. So November 16th on Toonami is plenty viable.

This week is NYCC and Aniplex has a panel so if Demon Slayer is trucking onward on November 2nd or 11th we will hear about that there before the schedules post.

You’d think if they had MHA S7 lined up that they would be able to announce that by now without issue since the dub is 2 eps away from finished on CR. Though I would not put it past CR to hold it at bay until after those last 2 eps are up.

I don’t think CR is holding up the announcement. Since Toonami gets so few things to announce these days, they want to space them out. IFG gets the current shine. They are holding back 11/2 likely because it telegraphs MHA S7. They want that to take shine from IFG as little as possible. I think we can count on our hands how many times in Toonami history they have announced more than 1 thing at a time. Every time we have a multiple show exit schedule, we theorize what the big shuffle will be, but every time they spread it out across multiple weeks so nothing is stacked up. 
 

I really hope they do land Hashira Training for this last stretch of the year. Like Mugen Train, it’s the perfect fit for us to finish one more thing in 2024. 
 

31 minutes ago, brianycpht said:

Question is: will TOEI even let Toonami tell people they are airing it until after the theater premiere? They might have a fear people will not go if they know it’ll be airing 

No chance. Thats just basic business. You want people to think they have to go to the theater to maximize 3 days profits. Especially if they are set on it only being 3 days with no extensions. 

[brianycpht]

10 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

 

No chance. Thats just basic business. You want people to think they have to go to the theater to maximize 3 days profits. Especially if they are set on it only being 3 days with no extensions. 

That’s why I think there’s been no mention of the dub streaming anywhere either. Makes total sense. That’s why I’m not too confident it’ll air that Saturday. Maybe the following week. Again, though, I really hope they don’t get worried about airing the he show close to the holidays and let streamers get the jump on them. Waiting until January and being weeks behind everyone else will be far worse for them. 

Edited October 15 by brianycpht

[brianycpht]

Just now, brianycpht said:

That’s why I think there’s been no mention of the dub streaming anywhere either. Makes total sense. That’s why I’m not too confident it’ll air that Saturday. Maybe the following week. Again, though, I really hope they don’t get worried about airing the he show close to the holidays and let streamers get the jump on them. Waiting until January and being weeks behind everyone else will be far worse for them. 

 

[Sketch]

Good point about keeping people in the dark and forcing them to see the theatrical screenings on one of those days. Then theoretically they could announce the broadcast for November 23rd, November 30th or December 7th (or January) at the end of the screening.

[Sketch]

Daima panel came and went and little was said about the dub besides confirming some voice actors so I'm leaning toward any confirmation of where the dub will be available after the screening to occur after the screening, preferably at the screening.

[PokeNirvash]

On the topic of Daima's dub, I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Stephanie Nadolny making her official comeback as young Goku.

[Mr. Idea Box]

4 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

On the topic of Daima's dub, I'm surprised more people aren't talking about Stephanie Nadolny making her official comeback as young Goku.

Around here, or on the general Internet? I mean, I like that she's coming back, and she sounds like she hasn't aged a day.

[brianycpht]

11 hours ago, Sketch said:

Daima panel came and went and little was said about the dub besides confirming some voice actors so I'm leaning toward any confirmation of where the dub will be available after the screening to occur after the screening, preferably at the screening.

It’s not unheard of. I was at a subtitled screening of Castile of Cagliostro years ago and it ended with a promo to watch Lupin part 4 on Toonami. 
 

There is the possibility that they may still wait to release the dub to give it a little space between the theater run. It’s unfortunate if Toonami is forced to sit on the news and not have time for promotion. But little things they do with the schedule may telegraph things once we see what November looks like 

[OwlChemist81]

Pretty sure NOBODY had THIS on their 2024 Bingo cards for November...

...and yes, that IS Blue Exorcist Season 1!

Really strange look for Toonami, airing its premieres in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and technically to the block, the 7th time slot. Kinda hearkens back to 2020 or something when Mob Psycho 100 and later Fire Force ran reruns in the 3rd slot at 1 AM.

[Toonamiguy321]

Yea ok, this is not how I expected the schedules to shape up at all. It’s not in the way I expected, but they do seem to be saving MHA (in the optimistic scenario they have it) for the lead show in January. With how far behind they already are, that’s a smart move. 
 

Mashle has been on people’s prediction list for awhile now. I have no idea why it took them this long to get it. A nice little curveball.

But why the fuck did they waste precious budget getting Blue Exorcist back, especially to air it that early in the night? You were there in the Aniplex catalog, why did you not get something new? “B-b-but it hasn’t run in nearly 10 years!” Don’t matter, Toonami viewers don’t tolerate reruns. Toonami is now 4/7 reruns. A bad little curveball. 
 

And on the topic of reruns, why is Kai still on the block? It is now multiple episodes behind Rewind. I don’t understand why they are so obsessed with keeping the block seven slots long when they don’t have the content for it. Unless Kai is sitting there waiting till they can announce Daima after the theater run. 
 

Demarco almost had a W schedule update here but blew it by parking a paid rerun right in the middle of everything. 
 

 

[Top Gun]

I'd assume they're rerunning Blue Exorcist there with the expectation they'll air some of the new seasons next year.

Unexpected pick-ups, but I've heard good stuff about Mashle.

[Sketch]

It has been 10 years but IIRC the Kyoto Arc has a recap at the start so this really shouldn’t be ahead of One Piece if airing at all. So my one hope is BE bumps to 2am when Daima and/or MHA comes. That’s still just 4 premieres though. They shouldn’t waste any more money on reruns. Kai and BE it’s 2014 again but not in a good way.

Should have been Cells at Work instead.

Mashle is great so that’s cool but the rest of this is rather disappointing. Kai sticks around and Rick dub stinks up the back. They don’t even do something interesting with DST and just encore IFG.

Aniplex continues to be the one company willing to put shows on Toonami that aren’t prior contracts.

[Jman]

1 hour ago, Top Gun said:

I'd assume they're rerunning Blue Exorcist there with the expectation they'll air some of the new seasons next year.

Unexpected pick-ups, but I've heard good stuff about Mashle.

Mashle’s good stuff from what I’ve seen.  Equal parts comedy and action.

Edited October 18 by Jman

[PokeNirvash]

I understand the complainers' points about reruns at 1AM, and I fart in their general direction. I, for one, welcome this opportunity to refresh myself fully on Blue Exorcist and its filler ending ahead of the anticipated swerve back to canon. (Boy I can't wait to call everyone colossally stupid over that one scene in episode 17 again... )

The actual new show we're getting is cool, too. Black Clover with Saitama/Mob as the main character, love to see it.

[brianycpht]

Just now, PokeNirvash said:

I understand the complainers' points about reruns at 1AM, and I fart in their general direction. I, for one, welcome this opportunity to refresh myself fully on Blue Exorcist and its filler ending ahead of the anticipated swerve back to canon. (Boy I can't wait to call everyone colossally stupid over that one scene in episode 17 again... )

The actual new show we're getting is cool, too. Black Clover with Saitama/Mob as the main character, love to see it.

You can stream Blue Exorcist. They don’t need to waste money on reruns. 

[PokeNirvash]

Well maybe I don't wanna stream Blue Exorcist, ya ever think of that!?

[brianycpht]

2 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said:

Well maybe I don't wanna stream Blue Exorcist, ya ever think of that!?

Every time they get a catalog title from a distributor, they limit themselves to what they’ve already aired. It’s a waste of money 

[Mr. Idea Box]

Okay, I can certainly say I didn't expect THESE lineups for early November! Maybe some parts, but not all of them.

The good parts. Mashle actually airs on Toonami, and provides a good compliment to Invincible Fight Girl. Come for the CN reject, stay for the comfort food. Plus, I'd even take Blue Exorcist reruns if it means we get something different. And hey, at least the RATAM dub is at a time no one should be watching Toonami live.

The bad parts. Even though part of me is holding out hope for Kyoto Saga, it says a lot where Blue Exorcist repeats get an earlier timeslot than contractually-obligated One Piece. And MHA going back to one rerun a week stinks. But what REALLY stinks is DBZ Kai still hanging around. When Rewind is already ahead of mainline Toonami, maybe it's become one of those infamous "stall tactics". God, that name sounds terrible.

In short, I hope the good outweighs the bad.

[Toonamiguy321]

6 hours ago, Top Gun said:

I'd assume they're rerunning Blue Exorcist there with the expectation they'll air some of the new seasons next year.

Unexpected pick-ups, but I've heard good stuff about Mashle.

Why not just air it now? One Piece skipped 3 canon arcs and it was fine. There is no reason to do a 6 month long rerun (half of which is non canon and retconned) to start a new season. 
 

I also recall people apply this logic to the Mob rerun a few years ago, only for S2 to never materialize. We very well could get to the end of BE and just have it leave never to be heard from again. 
 

3 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

 

I understand the complainers' points about reruns at 1AM, and I fart in their general direction. I, for one, welcome this opportunity to refresh myself fully on Blue Exorcist and its filler ending ahead of the anticipated swerve back to canon. (Boy I can't wait to call everyone colossally stupid over that one scene in episode 17 again... )

You and anyone else who needed a recap could have taken the next 2.5 weeks to recap it yourself instead of all of us sitting through a 6 month long rerun with zero guarantees they will even get the new seasons. “I don’t wanna stream it” ok I don’t want it clogging a premier slot for 6 months. 

 

5 hours ago, Sketch said:

It has been 10 years but IIRC the Kyoto Arc has a recap at the start so this really shouldn’t be ahead of One Piece if airing at all. So my one hope is BE bumps to 2am when Daima and/or MHA comes. That’s still just 4 premieres though. They shouldn’t waste any more money on reruns. Kai and BE it’s 2014 again but not in a good way.

Here’s a hypothetical way they might shuffle things up if Daima is on the table after its theater premier, now that you mention it, it makes some sense of why BE is where it’s at

12 - IFG

12:30 - Daima

1 - Mashle

1:30 - One Piece 

2 - Blue Exorcist

2:30 - MHA S6

3 - Rick and Morty

This scenario also works out for MHA S7 if they opt for that instead. Slot Kai at 2:30 instead. 

[Sketch]

23 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Why not just air it now? One Piece skipped 3 canon arcs and it was fine. There is no reason to do a 6 month long rerun (half of which is non canon and retconned) to start a new season. 
 

I also recall people apply this logic to the Mob rerun a few years ago, only for S2 to never materialize. We very well could get to the end of BE and just have it leave never to be heard from again. 
 

You and anyone else who needed a recap could have taken the next 2.5 weeks to recap it yourself instead of all of us sitting through a 6 month long rerun with zero guarantees they will even get the new seasons. “I don’t wanna stream it” ok I don’t want it clogging a premier slot for 6 months. 

 

Here’s a hypothetical way they might shuffle things up if Daima is on the table after its theater premier, now that you mention it, it makes some sense of why BE is where it’s at

12 - IFG

12:30 - Daima

1 - Mashle

1:30 - One Piece 

2 - Blue Exorcist

2:30 - MHA S6

3 - Rick and Morty

This scenario also works out for MHA S7 if they opt for that instead. Slot Kai at 2:30 instead. 

I’d be fine with that schedule because I can peace out after One Piece. BE is at least better than Kai on both blocks even though they should not be spending more money on reruns for the main block.

Come December MHA S6 is finished so that slot can go to Demon Slayer reruns or drop the slot.

Quality of the shows aside, our current lineup has a good bit more variety than what’s coming. We’re going pretty much full PG-13 block and leading with a PG show. I’d rather have dubbed Uzumaki than dubbed RATAM but whatever.

[Blatch]

Woah, they're not stalling at the end of the year for once? And they're airing a fresh show on top of a long-ago rerun at the same time? Color me impressed. Yeah, I know about Blue Exorcist, but I'll still watch it and I hope everyone else does too. I feel like they're doing this out of convenience, and they wouldn't put S1 on unless they knew they'd eventually be able to air the new ones.

If I was in a position to watch Toonami week-to-week (which, sadly, probably ain't happening until I change careers), I'd try to watch this lineup through at least 1:30. Not bad, DeMarco. Now get Daima on and everyone will be singing your praises on Bluesky.

Edited October 19 by Blatch
Non-redundant wording on one part.

[EmpressAngel]

I assume the Blue Exorcist rerun was either dirt cheap, or maybe even outright free if they also picked up the sequel. Whine about it if you want, but that's a smart budget move if they did essentially get two shows for the price of one and locked in a slot for most of the year.

I've heard good things about Mashle and from what I know this is basically the plot:

 

[Toonamiguy321]

2 hours ago, Sketch said:

I’d be fine with that schedule because I can peace out after One Piece. BE is at least better than Kai on both blocks even though they should not be spending more money on reruns for the main block.

Come December MHA S6 is finished so that slot can go to Demon Slayer reruns or drop the slot.

Quality of the shows aside, our current lineup has a good bit more variety than what’s coming. We’re going pretty much full PG-13 block and leading with a PG show. I’d rather have dubbed Uzumaki than dubbed RATAM but whatever.

I think that’s the schedule most would prefer. Mid block reruns are always an annoyance. Apparently the world would collapse if One Piece spent 3-4 weeks at 1am. I’ll never understand why they are so obsessive about preserving timeslots, especially in the case of OP which often goes weeks at a time absent from the schedule. 
 

Niche magazine shonen like Blue Exorcist is the kind of stuff I want to see them go for more often, it’s just super annoying that when they finally do, it’s one they already aired when there were so many other options they could have gone with from Aniplex, who seems to be not only accommodating to Toonami’s struggles, but glad to work with the block. 
 

2 hours ago, Blatch said:

and they wouldn't put S1 on unless they knew they'd eventually be able to air the new ones

Mob S1 rerun says hi

1 hour ago, EmpressAngel said:

I assume the Blue Exorcist rerun was either dirt cheap, or maybe even outright free if they also picked up the sequel. Whine about it if you want, but that's a smart budget move if they did essentially get two shows for the price of one and locked in a slot for most of the year.

It’s a slap in the face to the audience. At the start of 2024, Toonami was a 5 premier block. At the end of 2024, Toonami is a 3 premier block. Replacing yet another premier with a rerun is bad optics, even if 6 months from now they start the new season, which I will stress is not a guarantee. By the time it might start, Mashle will have already aired both of its seasons, so the gaps don’t start. 
 

1 hour ago, EmpressAngel said:

I've heard good things about Mashle and from what I know this is basically the plot:

Like 90% correct. Not being able to use magic is the greatest sin in their universe, so while he does punch and kick his way through all his problems, he has to pretend like it’s magic. 

[KageRageX]

Maybe......

 

12:00 - Invincible FIght Girl
12:30 - Mashle
01:00 - My Hero Academia Season 7
01:30 - One Piece
02:00 - One Piece
02:30 - Blue Exorcist
03:00 - Rick and Morty: The Anime

And early next year...........

11:30 - Lazaurs
12:00 - Creature Commandos
12:30 - Dragon Ball Daima
01:00 - My Hero Academia Season 7
01:30 - Demon Slayer Hashira Training
02:00 - One Piece
02:30 - Blue Exorcist
03:00 - Primal (I mean, ain't Primal supposed to be coming back next year???)

I'll probably make a more detailed spreadsheet.
 

[Blatch]

15 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Mob S1 rerun says hi

In that case, I'll pull out a necessary weasel: This license isn't from Crunchyroll.

[Sketch]

I didn’t expect Aniplex reps to be able to say anything about additional seasons for Blue Exorcist so this doesn’t put a nail in the coffin by any means but it doesn’t improve the prospects either.

There had better be a light at the end of this 6 month tunnel.

[Toonamiguy321]

3 hours ago, Sketch said:

I didn’t expect Aniplex reps to be able to say anything about additional seasons for Blue Exorcist so this doesn’t put a nail in the coffin by any means but it doesn’t improve the prospects either.

There had better be a light at the end of this 6 month tunnel.

Seems like they kicked the ball to Toonami’s court. Aniplex seems to be cooperative, and I can’t imagine them giving the block a hard time on a B show like Blue Exorcist, so now it’s fully on Toonami to pony up the cash for the new season when it’s time. Which in 6 months, any number of things can happen to the block that ends up causing that not to happen. 
 

I don’t remember how this show is broken down. Is it all one season? Or does the filler part happen in a second cour thats a different license? Would be cool if they just aired the canon episodes and once those were done went straight to the new seasons instead of making us wait through filler. 

[brianycpht]

3 hours ago, Sketch said:

I didn’t expect Aniplex reps to be able to say anything about additional seasons for Blue Exorcist so this doesn’t put a nail in the coffin by any means but it doesn’t improve the prospects either.

There had better be a light at the end of this 6 month tunnel.

Not sure if Jason could shed light on the subject. It’s probably going to come down to how the season 1 rerun does rather than Aniplex’s cooperation

[Sketch]

The filler part starts around episode 16 but it's all one license for 25 episodes.

Kyoto Arc is next with 12 episodes, that was the one first relegated to Amazon's Anime Strike then the dub was exclusive to Hulu for years.

Then there's 2 more arcs that have been animated (not by A1 Pictures), one aired earlier this year for 12 episodes and the other is airing right now.

Within reason they can get at least the Kyoto arc, maybe by the time they finish that they can get Illuminati arc which aired in Spring of this year.

Here's my latest builds. I still think they could swing getting Daima on in December but why bother if they're going to take at least 1 if not 2 weeks off because of Christmas and New Years? They won't finish IFG in 2025 unless they air both 9 and 10 on December 21st or actually run a premiere on December 28th and Lazarus looks to be right around the corner since it only needs to be dubbed and prepped for broadcast. I don't think they'll be dropping it in January though even though they did that with Space Dandy back in 2014.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eFK04dKeqeT2vurSRVSYO8EJsl0QLF3SRuMFuvyc-Hg/edit?usp=sharing

[brianycpht]

5 hours ago, Sketch said:

The filler part starts around episode 16 but it's all one license for 25 episodes.

Kyoto Arc is next with 12 episodes, that was the one first relegated to Amazon's Anime Strike then the dub was exclusive to Hulu for years.

Then there's 2 more arcs that have been animated (not by A1 Pictures), one aired earlier this year for 12 episodes and the other is airing right now.

Within reason they can get at least the Kyoto arc, maybe by the time they finish that they can get Illuminati arc which aired in Spring of this year.

Here's my latest builds. I still think they could swing getting Daima on in December but why bother if they're going to take at least 1 if not 2 weeks off because of Christmas and New Years? They won't finish IFG in 2025 unless they air both 9 and 10 on December 21st or actually run a premiere on December 28th and Lazarus looks to be right around the corner since it only needs to be dubbed and prepped for broadcast. I don't think they'll be dropping it in January though even though they did that with Space Dandy back in 2014.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eFK04dKeqeT2vurSRVSYO8EJsl0QLF3SRuMFuvyc-Hg/edit?usp=sharing

Waiting for January to air Daima if the streamers (who won’t pause for holidays) start the dub is a bad move unless TOEI makes the decision to do that with everyone. The show literally being on every service is going to give people numerous options to watch it and a Toonami airing that is 5-6 episodes behind because they are worried someone won’t watch at grandmas house is such outdated thinking. Especially in a year where Christmas is on a Wednesday.  I wouldn’t say this if it was only Crunchyroll, 

[Sketch]

If there ever was a year where having no holiday marathons in December made sense, it’s this year. I could see them run a regular block on December 21st at least but there’s honestly no good reason to preempt on the 28th either so many days after Christmas and before New Years Eve.

[brianycpht]

5 minutes ago, Sketch said:

If there ever was a year where having no holiday marathons in December made sense, it’s this year. I could see them run a regular block on December 21st at least but there’s honestly no good reason to preempt on the 28th either so many days after Christmas and before New Years Eve.

Honestly they do these things out of tradition. It probably doesn’t matter as much as they used to. But they are stuck in the past playing by old TV rules and that’s why streamers snuck up and took everything from them 

[Toonamiguy321]

16 hours ago, brianycpht said:

Not sure if Jason could shed light on the subject. It’s probably going to come down to how the season 1 rerun does rather than Aniplex’s cooperation

Even if Demarco had the greenlight to confirm the new seasons right now, he would still wait till 2 weeks before they are to go on air to announce anything. 
 

9 hours ago, Sketch said:

The filler part starts around episode 16 but it's all one license for 25 episodes.

Well, it would be cool if they just pulled the show at episode 16 then. Now that they have done that for Naruto they can’t fall back on the old excuses for skipping episode. They won’t do this, but it would be a nice gesture. 
 

9 hours ago, Sketch said:

They won't finish IFG in 2025 unless they air both 9 and 10 on December 21st or actually run a premiere on December 28th and Lazarus looks to be right around the corner since it only needs to be dubbed and prepped for broadcast. I don't think they'll be dropping it in January though even though they did that with Space Dandy back in 2014.

No way will they let IFG hang over the holidays. If not the 21st, they will find a way to squeeze it all in to 2024. 
 

Id put Lazarus out into the spring somewhere. They need to be tactical with those releases. Unless Rooster Fighter is a huge rush job, Lazarus may be the only original in 2025. 
 

1 hour ago, brianycpht said:

Honestly they do these things out of tradition. It probably doesn’t matter as much as they used to. But they are stuck in the past playing by old TV rules and that’s why streamers snuck up and took everything from them 

The year end marathons are one of their only remaining traditions they stick to. All the other “normal” marathons only happen when they are convenient or they need to buy time. Thanksgiving will step on a lot of toes this year so they will likely skip that one. 

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Viz was promoting the Japanese cast of Rooster Fighter at NYCC. I get the feeling it’s pretty far into production despite how recently it was announced. Primal season 3 and Get Jiro should be able to air in 2025. IFG might have 10 more episodes in its original order and MAWS could potentially air in Summer or Fall of 2025.

If they have both Daima and MHA coming soon then they certainly could wait to bring in Lazarus till Daima ends but that’s nearly half the year and as mentioned above they could easily have 3 to 4 other originals besides Lazarus and Rooster Fighter so they should probably start the first original by March or even mid-February to end around Memorial Day weekend. Definitely don’t need to in January though.

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2 hours ago, Sketch said:

Viz was promoting the Japanese cast of Rooster Fighter at NYCC. I get the feeling it’s pretty far into production despite how recently it was announced. Primal season 3 and Get Jiro should be able to air in 2025. IFG might have 10 more episodes in its original order and MAWS could potentially air in Summer or Fall of 2025.

If they have both Daima and MHA coming soon then they certainly could wait to bring in Lazarus till Daima ends but that’s nearly half the year and as mentioned above they could easily have 3 to 4 other originals besides Lazarus and Rooster Fighter so they should probably start the first original by March or even mid-February to end around Memorial Day weekend. Definitely don’t need to in January though.

I keep forgetting that Get Jiro is a thing. Have they said anything at all about it besides the original confirmation it’s something they are doing? 
 

Forgot about Primal too, mostly because Genndy is a pretentious dick and that one won’t actually be a Toonami premier, even if it will be the lead show. 
 

So we are a little more stocked than I expected. If I had to guess, I’d put Lazarus at mid February, just like Kamui was. With 13 episodes confirmed, that takes us cleanly to May which is around the time they will probably need to stall as well. BE and Mashle will be close to completion at the same time, so that will be another big schedule shuffle for them to fumble. 

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Not much has been reported about Get Jiro but I recall seeing someone talking about working on it on Twitter recently.