Master-Debater131 Posted February 21 Author Posted February 21 Actually, yea, your right, That first sentence is shit. Quote
[classic swim] Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Thank you MD. Edited February 21 by [classic swim] 2 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted February 21 Author Posted February 21 (edited) Removing as well. Edited February 21 by Master-Debater131 Quote
naraku360 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 21 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: "Monsters" is a strange way to spell "Netanyahu." 3 Quote
scoobdog Posted February 21 Posted February 21 45 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Restart the war, Nazism cannot be allowed to exist. This unnecessary sentence at the end of your drivel is a sure sign that you're not self aware enough to know what you're talking about. The things is, Hamas and the Mujihadeen Brigades are butchers and monsters who deserve to be called out for what they are. Israel chose to respond to savagery with its own savagery and that is also unacceptable. The fact you can't see what fascism in your own country looks like easily explains why, instead of making the important distinction between what Palestininan terrorists do and what the IDF is doing, you chose to ignore the latter's deeds. Just because an atrocities by one side can trigger atrocities on the other, doesn't mean either side has any vindication for acting barbarous an inhumane. I would suspect that this delusion you live in has far deeper tendrils than just your trash takes on Trumpism and the Israeli Conflict. 4 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: Removing as well. Glad you edited your fuckin post because I just fuckin knew someone was gonna justify the death of Palestinian children at the hands of Israeli soldiers and US bombs as somehow less monstrous than the psychotic act of beating a baby to death and strangling them with bare hands. I’m glad you decided maybe you shouldn’t. 1 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) since when did nazi's become to afraid too post their bullishit propaganda? self loathing, sad human. i pity you. Edited February 22 by discolé monade too not to 1 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Once again Fetterman is on the right side of history. All Hamas has to do is surrender and release the hostages. War wound end right then. But they would rather continue to starve and torture civilians than surrender. This war is entirely the fault of Hamas, and they carry the sole blame for everything that continues to happen. Thankfully Israel is taking out commanders as fast as new ones pop up. 1 1 Quote
Top Gun Posted Tuesday at 04:07 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:07 PM The dumbest motherfucker on the planet. 1 1 1 Quote
naraku360 Posted Tuesday at 04:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:09 PM 2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: Once again Fetterman is on the right side of history. All Hamas has to do is surrender and release the hostages. War wound end right then. But they would rather continue to starve and torture civilians than surrender. This war is entirely the fault of Hamas, and they carry the sole blame for everything that continues to happen. Thankfully Israel is taking out commanders as fast as new ones pop up. 3 minutes ago, naraku360 said: Do you ever have an opinion that isn't huffing sharts? 3 Quote
discolé monade Posted Tuesday at 04:10 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:10 PM 2 minutes ago, Top Gun said: The dumbest motherfucker on the planet. HOO BOY! 3 Quote
scoobdog Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM 3 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: Once again Fetterman is on the right side of history. All Hamas has to do is surrender and release the hostages. War wound end right then. But they would rather continue to starve and torture civilians than surrender. This war is entirely the fault of Hamas, and they carry the sole blame for everything that continues to happen. Thankfully Israel is taking out commanders as fast as new ones pop up. Who cares who's to blame? I'm asking seriously because none of this makes Israel look good. If the war ended tomorrow, and Israel did the right thing by stepping away from Palestine and allowed them to rebuild, do you think they'll suddenly get credit for doing the right thing? Of course not. Right or wrong, this war cemented acrimony in the middle east for generations to come and likely damaged the Isreali state permanently. It doesn't help that Israel no longer has a reliable partner in the incompetent Trump administration. There is nothing to be thankful for here. What confounds me about you is your seeming lack of empathy. I don't think you're a psychopath (incapable of human empathy or a dark empath), but you are clearly vengeful against somebody or something and its interfering in your ability to understand what other people who are not you are thinking or feeling. You've been saying the same thing over and over about Israel yet the hostages still haven't all made it home, alive or otherwise, and Hamas hasn't disappeared; at some point you can't even claim pragmatism in this conflict as a justification for the depravity of all those murdered non-combatants. The same applies to your hypocrisy toward LGBTQIA+ people: nothing is going to get better under Trump and you'll have nothing to show for it when everyone you care for suffers. Nonetheless, here we are talking at you as you keep pushing ahead like you don't hear us or don't care what we are telling you. There are only so many timed you can loop the rubber band around your ball of angst before it snaps. At some point, there's going be nothing left and you'll have to acknowledge that your personal animus is driving your ridiculous opinions. 2 4 Quote
rpgamer Posted Tuesday at 09:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:25 PM 4 hours ago, scoobdog said: What confounds me about you is your seeming lack of empathy. I don't think you're a psychopath (incapable of human empathy or a dark empath), but you are clearly vengeful against somebody or something and its interfering in your ability to understand what other people who are not you are thinking or feeling. You've been saying the same thing over and over about Israel yet the hostages still haven't all made it home, alive or otherwise, and Hamas hasn't disappeared; at some point you can't even claim pragmatism in this conflict as a justification for the depravity of all those murdered non-combatants. The same applies to your hypocrisy toward LGBTQIA+ people: nothing is going to get better under Trump and you'll have nothing to show for it when everyone you care for suffers. The cruelty is the point Quote Nonetheless, here we are talking at you as you keep pushing ahead like you don't hear us or don't care what we are telling you. That's the point. Come back with something to post to "trigger" everyone and then sit back and laugh at how people seem to, like, show empathy? Whatever that is. I just hope any R with any actual shred of empathy recognizes this and jumps ship. Empathy strictly puts you counter to that cult's ideals. No amount of rationalization can smooth over that cognitive dissonance, of actually caring for any one or any group, and supporting this genocidal regime. 2 1 Quote
PenguinBoss Posted yesterday at 02:56 AM Posted yesterday at 02:56 AM 13 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: Once again Fetterman is on the right side of history. All Hamas has to do is surrender and release the hostages. War wound end right then. But they would rather continue to starve and torture civilians than surrender. This war is entirely the fault of Hamas, and they carry the sole blame for everything that continues to happen. Thankfully Israel is taking out commanders as fast as new ones pop up. Israel and Hamas are both committing war crimes. Neither of them are on the "right" side of history. They're taking out more innocent lives, too. More than Hamas are "starving and torturing." 1 2 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted yesterday at 01:39 PM Author Posted yesterday at 01:39 PM This is a great sign! The people in Gaza are realizing that Hamas is only going to bring ruin, and are starting to protest against them. Hopefully this builds steam and there is a real push to completely and totally eject Hamas from Gaza. Ejecting Hamas from Gaza is the only hope for peace. These kinds of protests are extremely rare, so the fact that they are even happening is a great sign. Quote
naraku360 Posted yesterday at 01:54 PM Posted yesterday at 01:54 PM 11 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 12 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 13 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 13 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 13 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 14 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 14 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 15 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 2 Quote
naraku360 Posted yesterday at 02:18 PM Posted yesterday at 02:18 PM 11 hours ago, PenguinBoss said: Israel and Hamas are both committing war crimes. Neither of them are on the "right" side of history. They're taking out more innocent lives, too. More than Hamas are "starving and torturing." She wants Israel to be given blue ribbons for doing genocide. It's fucking weird. 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! The people in Gaza are realizing that Hamas is only going to bring ruin, and are starting to protest against them. Hopefully this builds steam and there is a real push to completely and totally eject Hamas from Gaza. Ejecting Hamas from Gaza is the only hope for peace. These kinds of protests are extremely rare, so the fact that they are even happening is a great sign. It would have happened sooner if they weren’t running for their lives. Before you say anything: no, the Israeli government doesn’t deserve credit for making this happen. 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted yesterday at 02:52 PM Posted yesterday at 02:52 PM Also, there’s this. At the end, the psychoanalyst details how the hostages feel like their government and military abandoned them. From the beginning, Netanyahu prioritized mass murder over the rescue of his citizens, and they know it. 1 Quote
naraku360 Posted yesterday at 03:11 PM Posted yesterday at 03:11 PM 19 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Also, there’s this. At the end, the psychoanalyst details how the hostages feel like their government and military abandoned them. From the beginning, Netanyahu prioritized mass murder over the rescue of his citizens, and they know it. 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: This is a great sign! 1 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted yesterday at 06:48 PM Posted yesterday at 06:48 PM As a side note, I'm more empathetic to the plight of the Israeli people than ever. We don't often see behind the veneer of Netanyahu's government, and that video lets us peer into the lives of people who end up being victimized both by terrorists and their own government. I'm not proud to be an American, but I am still American. Whether or not we voted for Trump (let alone agree with his abject cruelty), we still own him and the horrors he created. At least for the Israeli people, they have to own the consequences of a singularly monstrous leader they didn't directly elect. Trump was (mostly) directly elected by Americans, and we have idiots like MD who exploit that by blaming Democrats for not doing enough to get Harris elected in the face of an obviously cruel and selfish person like Trump. In that sense, Trump is a manifestation of something we either can't or don't want to acknowledge - that a democratic republic gives individual citizens responsibility over representatives they didn't elect and don't represent their values. Even for me, it's far easier to cajole my representation like I'm watching USC in the Coliseum than it is to formulate and act on a plan to get my values turned into policy because doing the latter involves an immense amount of time and effort for no tangible rewards. Someone like @discolé monade, who regularly goes to local local government functions and is creating a local non-profit understands that having no faith in your representation does not mean doing nothing - people like her are the foundation around which our system of governace is built. For the people of Israel, it can't be easy to exist in a place where your government perpetuates abuses on your non-consensual behalf and the people who suffer from that abuse hold you accountable for that abuse. For them, getting out there and being vocal - protesting like the Palestinians are; verbally and, if necessary, physically confronting Netanyahu and his cronies; reaching out to the international community beyond the complicit Trump administration for assistance - is a start. Unlike with my fellow Americans that support the atrocities committed by Trump, I have faith in Israeli citizens. I believe they can and will stand up to Netanyahu and put him in his place. We're starting to see signs of discontent come out from behind the "unified" front and, hopefully, it becomes more evident soon. The people of Israel deserve to live in peace with their neighbors, not at the whim of a petty tyrant beholden to a criminal minority Settlers. 2 1 Quote
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