2024 Presidential Elections: the schadenfreude commences

[Insipid]

6 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

That or he fr left the country already 

that’s gotta be nice, to be able to just gtfo like that. 

I wanted to rub in his face my dual citizenship status so badly . . . but we were all in shock, so I behaved.

[1pooh4u]

9 minutes ago, Insipid said:

I wanted to rub in his face my dual citizenship status so badly . . . but we were all in shock, so I behaved.

Will you collect a retirement pension or something from Japan?  Besides the obvious stuff what are the benefits for having a dual citizenship 

also thank you for not rubbing his nose in it at the time. I know that had to be hard cuz his denial was so strong 

Edited December 13, 2024 by 1pooh4u

[1pooh4u]

6 hours ago, [classic swim] said:

Hahahahahaha yeah Canada!!!

They fucking hate the black people that live there by a small margin but it’s okay because someone on Twitter told Icarus that that’s where the non Trumpo doodie heads live.

Idk the Facebook Canadians seem pretty cool with MAGA 😬

[Insipid]

27 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Will you collect a retirement pension or something from Japan?  Besides the obvious stuff what are the benefits for having a dual citizenship 

also thank you for not rubbing his nose in it at the time. I know that had to be hard cuz his denial was so strong 

 

I haven't thought about retirement. I never worked in Japan, so I don't believe I am eligible for their version of social security. Neither the US or Japan technically recognizes dual citizenship. However, I was born into a loophole, and both citizenships are my birthright. I was never naturalized like a foreigner immigrating to America would be. So being in this position, of course I'm gonna keep my dual citizenship status for the rest of my life.

Retiring in Japan seems like a nice idea, to be honest. I dunno yet. Really, the main benefit is the power of Japanese citizenship, if I ever want to immigrate to another country. America has quite a few adversaries these days.

[1pooh4u]

14 minutes ago, Insipid said:

 

I haven't thought about retirement. I never worked in Japan, so I don't believe I am eligible for their version of social security. Neither the US or Japan technically recognizes dual citizenship. However, I was born into a loophole, and both citizenships are my birthright. I was never naturalized like a foreigner immigrating to America would be. So being in this position, of course I'm gonna keep my dual citizenship status for the rest of my life.

Retiring in Japan seems like a nice idea, to be honest. I dunno yet. Really, the main benefit is the power of Japanese citizenship, if I ever want to immigrate to another country. America has quite a few adversaries these days.

Do you have 2 passports? 😮
 

now is probably definitely the time to take an extended leave cuz it’s gonna suck here most likely. Shit. I’d have been long gone 😆

[Insipid]

11 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Do you have 2 passports? 😮
 

now is probably definitely the time to take an extended leave cuz it’s gonna suck here most likely. Shit. I’d have been long gone 😆

I let my American passport expire . . . but when I need to travel, yes I have two.

I just don't have the financial means and have certain obligations right now. Plus, Okinawa, where my family is, may be placed under martial law for who knows how long if China invades Taiwan, as that's where the majority of American naval bases are located. Supposedly, Trump is inviting Xi Jinping to inauguration. 😩

[1pooh4u]

13 hours ago, Insipid said:

I let my American passport expire . . . but when I need to travel, yes I have two.

I just don't have the financial means and have certain obligations right now. Plus, Okinawa, where my family is, may be placed under martial law for who knows how long if China invades Taiwan, as that's where the majority of American naval bases are located. Supposedly, Trump is inviting Xi Jinping to inauguration. 😩

I got so many questions that are none of my business 😬😆🫠

Okinawa, everything I know about there I learned from Mr Miyagi in the Karate Kid 

[discolé monade]

oki banana lady

[1pooh4u]

[Raptorpat]

Quote

Republican Gives Up Fight to Overturn Defeat in N.C. Judicial Race

Three counts showed that the incumbent, a Democrat, won the State Supreme Court election last fall. But Judge Jefferson Griffin tried for months to reverse his loss through the courts.

By Eduardo Medina

May 7, 2025Updated 1:53 p.m. ET

A six-month battle over a North Carolina Supreme Court seat ended on Wednesday when the Republican challenger, who had embarked on an extraordinary effort to throw out thousands of votes, conceded the race.

The challenger, Judge Jefferson Griffin, said in a statement that he would not appeal a federal court ruling issued on Monday that ordered the state elections board to certify the victory of the Democratic incumbent, Justice Allison Riggs.

“While I do not fully agree with the District Court’s analysis, I respect the court’s holding — just as I have respected every judicial tribunal that has heard this case,” Mr. Griffin said. “I will not appeal the court’s decision.”

Two recounts affirmed that Justice Riggs won the race by a margin of 734 votes, out of the more than 5.5 million ballots cast. The results of the race are the last in the nation to be certified from the 2024 election.

“After millions of dollars spent, more than 68,000 voters at risk of losing their votes, thousands of volunteers mobilized, hundreds of legal documents filed, and immeasurable damage done to our democracy, I’m glad the will of the voters was finally heard, six months and two days after Election Day,” Justice Riggs said in a statement.

Judge Griffin, who currently sits on the North Carolina Court of Appeals, said on Wednesday that “as a judge, I believe everybody, myself included, has a right to their day in court.”

“This effort,” he added, “has always been about upholding the rule of law and making sure that every legal vote in an election is counted.”

The case tested the boundaries of post-election litigation, and drew criticism from democracy watchdog groups, liberals and even some conservatives across the state, who worried about setting a dangerous precedent.

Politically, North Carolina is one of the most fractious states in the nation. Last fall, its voters handed the state to President Trump in the presidential race but elected a Democrat, Josh Stein, as governor. The Republican-controlled legislature has recently stripped power from Democratic officials, including taking away from the governor the power to appoint the members of the elections board and giving it instead to the state auditor, a Republican.

Voting rights experts have said that regardless of the outcome, the unusual series of challenges from Judge Griffin, and the courts’ openness to entertaining them, may have paved the way for similar challenges in future close elections, as President Trump and his supporters try to erode confidence in the integrity of American elections.

Judge Griffin began his fight by arguing that more than 65,000 ballots that were cast in the election should not be counted because of eligibility issues. He filed a protest with the State Board of Elections after the board twice certified Judge Riggs’s victory. (The total number of ballots in question fluctuated over time as the case wound its way through the election board and the courts.)

Among the ballots Judge Griffin challenged were those cast by thousands of military and overseas voters, on the grounds that they had not submitted a photo ID or an ID exception form with their absentee ballots — even though the voters were exempted from those requirements before the election.

Judge Griffin also challenged the ballots of nearly 300 voters who he said were “Never Residents,” meaning they did not live in North Carolina but were registered to vote there. The “Never Residents” category typically includes North Carolinians who are working overseas and the children of military parents from North Carolina who turn 18 while their family is stationed abroad. North Carolina passed a law in 2011 allowing such people to vote in the state’s elections.

In April, the State Supreme Court, which has a 5-to-2 Republican majority, partially agreed with Judge Griffin, ruling that the eligibility of military and overseas voters who cast ballots in the election should be verified, and that the votes from “Never Residents” should be thrown out. Justice Riggs, who has recused herself from the case, appealed the ruling to the federal courts.

Lawyers for Judge Griffin said they were trying to enforce laws that the Board of Elections had failed to apply. The North Carolina Republican Party supported Judge Griffin’s challenge. Matt Mercer, a spokesman for the state party, said in a statement that “Judge Griffin deserves the appreciation of every North Carolinian for highlighting the appalling mismanagement” of the state elections board.

Judge Griffin’s critics noted that the ballots in question were included in certified counts for every other race in the state last November, and likened his challenge to trying to change the rules after the game has been played.

The federal judge — a Trump appointee — who ordered the elections board on Monday to certify the race agreed with that argument. He ruled that the “retroactive invalidation” of military and overseas ballots would be a violation of those voters’ due process rights.

The stakes in the race were high. North Carolina’s legislative district maps are among the most gerrymandered in the country — they now heavily favor Republicans — and the State Supreme Court decides whether to uphold or overturn them.

As Judge Griffin persisted with his challenge and some courts accepted his argument, many of the affected voters grew concerned about the prospect of having to verify their ballots, and asked how doing that would even work, especially for members of the military stationed overseas and their families.

Billboards across the state, sponsored by voting rights groups, labeled Judge Griffin a power-hungry election stealer. Thousands of protesters gathered in Raleigh, the state capitol, on several occasions, holding up signs that read “She won!” and “Stop the steal!”

Anderson Clayton, the chairwoman of the North Carolina Democratic Party, said in a statement on Wednesday that Justice Riggs’s victory belonged “to every voter who deserves confidence that their voice will be heard when they cast their ballot.”

Jeff Jackson, the attorney general of North Carolina, whose office led the legal defense of the Board of Elections, said that from the beginning, Judge Griffin’s challenge “was an attempt to twist the law to reverse the outcome of a legitimate election.”

“This attack didn’t work," Mr. Jackson said. “But there’s a real risk that other losing candidates might try the same attack in the future.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/07/us/politics/north-carolina-supreme-court-gop-concession.html

[Raptorpat]

guys the election was literally six months ago

[tsar4]

 

[Sieg67]

45 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

 

I think Democrats would be more seriously looking into fraud if Trump didn't make the topic radioactive.  Nobody wants to touch it because of the way it'll look.   Maybe that was his plan all along. 

I personally suspect that Musk and Putin rigged the election for Trump.  I watched a video detailing the abnormal voting pattern.  It also pointed out a spot in the data that's similar to the tell that indicates when Putin's algorithm kicks in on Russian voting machines.  I suspect Putin supplied the software and Musk implemented it.   Here's a few suspicious things Trump has said. 

1. 10/23/23, Derry NH rally: "You don't have to vote, don't worry about voting. The voting—we got plenty of votes."

2. 6/15/24, Detroit MI (Turning Point Action Convention): "Listen, we don't need votes. [...] We don't need votes. We have to stop — focus, don't worry about votes."

3. 6/21/24, Washington DC (Faith & Freedom Coalition Conference): "I tell my people, I don't need any votes. We got all the votes we need. We don't need the votes."

4. 6/28/24, Chesapeake VA rally: "We don't need the votes."

5. 7/25/24, Fox & Friends phone interview: "My instruction: We don't need the votes, I have so many votes."

6. /24, West Palm Beach FL (Turning Point Summit): "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians"

7. 7/29/24, Fox News: "This time, vote. I'll straighten out the country, you won't have to vote any more, I won't need your vote any more, you can go back to not voting."

8. 8/21/24, Asheboro NC rally: "Our primary focus is not to get out the vote, it is to make sure they don't cheat."

9. 10/5/24, Meridian PA rally: "He's great but if we don't have good results by the 6th of November, I will never say that about him again. [...] He's working mostly on 'stop the steal' because we have a lot of votes, we have plenty of votes. [...] make it 'too big to rig.'"

10. 10/27/24, Madison Square Garden rally: "I think with our little secret we're going to do really well with the House, right? Our little secret is having a big impact. He and I have a little secret — we will tell you what it is when the race is over." Speaking directly to Speaker of the House Mike Johnson while on stage.

11. 11/3/24, Macon GA rally: "We're way ahead. I'm not supposed to say that. My people say 'please don't say that, sir.'"

12. 11/4/24, Pittsburgh PA rally: "He looked at some that were just shipped in, some of these vote counting computers. He knew it before it even came in the door, he looked like in the back of it, 'oh I know that one'. I mean he knows this stuff better than anyone."

13. 1/19/25, Washington DC rally: "He was very effective. He knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide, so it was pretty good. It was pretty good. Thank you to Elon."

Edited May 18 by Sieg67

[tsar4]

2 hours ago, Sieg67 said:

I think Democrats would be more seriously looking into fraud if Trump didn't make the topic radioactive.  Nobody wants to touch it because of the way it'll look.   Maybe that was his plan all along. 

I personally suspect that Musk and Putin rigged the election for Trump.  I watched a video detailing the abnormal voting pattern.  It also pointed out a spot in the data that's similar to the tell that indicates when Putin's algorithm kicks in on Russian voting machines.  I suspect Putin supplied the software and Musk implemented it.   Here's a few suspicious things Trump has said. 

1. 10/23/23, Derry NH rally: "You don't have to vote, don't worry about voting. The voting—we got plenty of votes."

2. 6/15/24, Detroit MI (Turning Point Action Convention): "Listen, we don't need votes. [...] We don't need votes. We have to stop — focus, don't worry about votes."

3. 6/21/24, Washington DC (Faith & Freedom Coalition Conference): "I tell my people, I don't need any votes. We got all the votes we need. We don't need the votes."

4. 6/28/24, Chesapeake VA rally: "We don't need the votes."

5. 7/25/24, Fox & Friends phone interview: "My instruction: We don't need the votes, I have so many votes."

6. /24, West Palm Beach FL (Turning Point Summit): "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians"

7. 7/29/24, Fox News: "This time, vote. I'll straighten out the country, you won't have to vote any more, I won't need your vote any more, you can go back to not voting."

8. 8/21/24, Asheboro NC rally: "Our primary focus is not to get out the vote, it is to make sure they don't cheat."

9. 10/5/24, Meridian PA rally: "He's great but if we don't have good results by the 6th of November, I will never say that about him again. [...] He's working mostly on 'stop the steal' because we have a lot of votes, we have plenty of votes. [...] make it 'too big to rig.'"

10. 10/27/24, Madison Square Garden rally: "I think with our little secret we're going to do really well with the House, right? Our little secret is having a big impact. He and I have a little secret — we will tell you what it is when the race is over." Speaking directly to Speaker of the House Mike Johnson while on stage.

11. 11/3/24, Macon GA rally: "We're way ahead. I'm not supposed to say that. My people say 'please don't say that, sir.'"

12. 11/4/24, Pittsburgh PA rally: "He looked at some that were just shipped in, some of these vote counting computers. He knew it before it even came in the door, he looked like in the back of it, 'oh I know that one'. I mean he knows this stuff better than anyone."

13. 1/19/25, Washington DC rally: "He was very effective. He knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide, so it was pretty good. It was pretty good. Thank you to Elon."

The only bit missing is how they said mail in votes were easily rigged, but only because they couldn't change them.

[Sieg67]

They had a plan for ballots, too.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eligible-voters-swept-up-conservative-activists-purge-voter-rolls/

 

Then we had the bullshit Jefferson Griffin tried to pull in North Carolina.  

A brief history, he changed voting rules after the election to have ballots thrown out which would have given him the win.  It took months for Riggs to win that battle.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/05/07/north-carolina-supreme-court-race-jefferson-griffin-concedes-to-winner-allison-riggs/83497711007/

Edited May 18 by Sieg67

[André Toulon]

18 hours ago, Sieg67 said:

I think Democrats would be more seriously looking into fraud if Trump didn't make the topic radioactive.  Nobody wants to touch it because of the way it'll look.   Maybe that was his plan all along. 

I personally suspect that Musk and Putin rigged the election for Trump.  I watched a video detailing the abnormal voting pattern.  It also pointed out a spot in the data that's similar to the tell that indicates when Putin's algorithm kicks in on Russian voting machines.  I suspect Putin supplied the software and Musk implemented it.   Here's a few suspicious things Trump has said. 

1. 10/23/23, Derry NH rally: "You don't have to vote, don't worry about voting. The voting—we got plenty of votes."

2. 6/15/24, Detroit MI (Turning Point Action Convention): "Listen, we don't need votes. [...] We don't need votes. We have to stop — focus, don't worry about votes."

3. 6/21/24, Washington DC (Faith & Freedom Coalition Conference): "I tell my people, I don't need any votes. We got all the votes we need. We don't need the votes."

4. 6/28/24, Chesapeake VA rally: "We don't need the votes."

5. 7/25/24, Fox & Friends phone interview: "My instruction: We don't need the votes, I have so many votes."

6. /24, West Palm Beach FL (Turning Point Summit): "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians"

7. 7/29/24, Fox News: "This time, vote. I'll straighten out the country, you won't have to vote any more, I won't need your vote any more, you can go back to not voting."

8. 8/21/24, Asheboro NC rally: "Our primary focus is not to get out the vote, it is to make sure they don't cheat."

9. 10/5/24, Meridian PA rally: "He's great but if we don't have good results by the 6th of November, I will never say that about him again. [...] He's working mostly on 'stop the steal' because we have a lot of votes, we have plenty of votes. [...] make it 'too big to rig.'"

10. 10/27/24, Madison Square Garden rally: "I think with our little secret we're going to do really well with the House, right? Our little secret is having a big impact. He and I have a little secret — we will tell you what it is when the race is over." Speaking directly to Speaker of the House Mike Johnson while on stage.

11. 11/3/24, Macon GA rally: "We're way ahead. I'm not supposed to say that. My people say 'please don't say that, sir.'"

12. 11/4/24, Pittsburgh PA rally: "He looked at some that were just shipped in, some of these vote counting computers. He knew it before it even came in the door, he looked like in the back of it, 'oh I know that one'. I mean he knows this stuff better than anyone."

13. 1/19/25, Washington DC rally: "He was very effective. He knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide, so it was pretty good. It was pretty good. Thank you to Elon."

Number 10.... that's when i knew we were fucked and he meant that shit

[tsar4]

Company "alters" voting machines just prior to election, then the company disappears...

[tsar4]

 

[tsar4]

Did they finally find the smoking gun?

Story lays out the whole "change the vote" workings.