Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted March 3 Posted March 3 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/02/zelenskyy-offers-no-apology-to-trump-as-he-says-row-brought-nothing-positive Ukraine “will never” recognise any Russian annexation of territory it occupies, even if it is to try to secure a peace deal, Zelenskyy added, and he repeated that he would only accept a ceasefire if it was followed by robust security guarantees that had the confidence of his country’s people. Though Russia has said it will insist on incorporating territories that it occupies, for Ukraine it would always be “a temporary occupation”, Zelenskyy insisted, even if his country lacks the military muscle to expel Russia from all of the country at the moment. I.E. they want the territory back but are willing to let it go for purposes of getting a deal, but not without getting a solid security guarantee. Of course, we know that's something Putin and his little puppet are never going to give them. That's forcing Zelensky to work with Europe to try and hammer something out that they could find acceptable. Heh, Trump cut them out negotiations, and now they're returning the favor. That's justice for ya. Bottom-line though, seems to be there's just no fixing this mess sadly. U.S. isn't going to help Ukraine, and the sooner everyone accepts that and moves on from depending on us the better. Fortunately, seems Zelensky has gotten the message loud and clear and is only keeping the door open to still making a deal with the U.S. for the purpose of optics. I'm pretty sure he knows there's no chance of it really happening now. The question I think now is has the rest of Europe and the free world really settled with that, and I'm not sure they have just yet. 3 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 4 Author Posted March 4 Ufa Oil in Russia is on fire... The distance from the Ukrainian border is approximately the distance from Chicago to Jacksonville. 4 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 4 Author Posted March 4 30 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Trump paused all aid to Ukraine. Not surprised Now if Trump would pause his own breathing for a few days, we'd be really getting somewhere. 6 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/to-president-zelenskyy-from-embarrassed-americans?source=rawlink&utm_source=rawlink&share=79f294ba-9d41-46da-a82d-2c06d31af2e4 2 Quote
Raptorpat Posted March 7 Posted March 7 trump folks talking to Ukraine opposition parties https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-allies-secret-talks-volodymyr-zelenskyy-opposition-ukraine-elections-yulia-tymoshenko-petro-poroshenko/ 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 9 Author Posted March 9 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3967895-putin-rejects-any-concessions-in-future-peace-talks-with-ukraine-isw.html 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 9 Author Posted March 9 Just our luck, we don't get the Vance with huevos... 2 Quote
katt_goddess Posted March 9 Posted March 9 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: Just our luck, we don't get the Vance with huevos... Fighting for democracy would clash with his guyliner. 2 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 (edited) Not sure what is going on here. Anonymous posted, then deleted this post. Other sites are reporting it, but I've never heard of them. Edited March 11 by tsar4 2 Quote
katt_goddess Posted March 11 Posted March 11 22 hours ago, tsar4 said: Not sure what is going on here. Anonymous posted, then deleted this post. Other sites are reporting it, but I've never heard of them. This was pulled because it was found to be a hoax report by a pro-Russian group. There is work being done on that particular landing platform to extend it so the pics of it being torn up are correct for that but not for that report. 1 4 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 https://kyivindependent.com/fires-reported-at-infrastructure-facilities-in-russias-voronezh-and-rostov-regions-following-drone-strikes/ 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Zelenskyy was smart to take the deal. He knew Putin would turn it down. Now let’s see if Trump and Vance hold a live meeting with Putin where they yell at him and call him an ingrate 3 Quote
scoobdog Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: Zelenskyy was smart to take the deal. He knew Putin would turn it down. Now let’s see if Trump and Vance hold a live meeting with Putin where they yell at him and call him an ingrate It sounds like Trump and his pet walked into their own bear trap with this one. Either Trump was hoping a display of Zelenskyy being cowed by Vance and himself would be enough to get Putin to sign on, or he never planned to have Zelenskyy sign on in the first place. Regardless, it doesn't look like Trumpy-poo is getting his Nobel Peace Prize anytime soon. 1 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted March 13 Posted March 13 28 minutes ago, scoobdog said: It sounds like Trump and his pet walked into their own bear trap with this one. Either Trump was hoping a display of Zelenskyy being cowed by Vance and himself would be enough to get Putin to sign on, or he never planned to have Zelenskyy sign on in the first place. Regardless, it doesn't look like Trumpy-poo is getting his Nobel Peace Prize anytime soon. His remarks on Gaza should bar him from that honor indefinitely 5 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 "A ceasefire should lead to "an enduring peace and remove the root causes of this crisis", Putin said. So - you and your cronies are going to abdicate and move to Ipatiev House in Ekaterinburg? 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: His remarks on Gaza should bar him from that honor indefinitely Agreed. He’s almost certainly destroyed any chance of a US brokered deal in Gaza as well because of his idiotic deal making. He might get MBS a NPP though, because that sleazy shit knows how to step into the Trump’s shadow to make himself look magnanimous. Trump is literally making despotism great again, but only for everyone else. 2 Quote
katt_goddess Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: "A ceasefire should lead to "an enduring peace and remove the root causes of this crisis", Putin said. So - you and your cronies are going to abdicate and move to Ipatiev House in Ekaterinburg? Putin big walks down a corridor that's nothing but glass windows on both sides. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Shiiit at this rate Rubio is gonna only be 3 ft tall 😆 3 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Sieg67 said: I think we've found Trump's decorator... 4 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 Best of my knowledge, this (thankfully) could not happen in reality because of cracks in the mountain. 2 Quote
stilgar Posted March 18 Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Fuck, I hope its this song that does it. 2 Quote
Raptorpat Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Trump and Putin discussed a 30-day ceasefire on energy infrastructure Quote
Seight Posted Sunday at 11:12 PM Posted Sunday at 11:12 PM 2 hours ago, tsar4 said: Look, in his defense he probably wasn't told why, so. 4 Quote
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