Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted March 3 Posted March 3 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/02/zelenskyy-offers-no-apology-to-trump-as-he-says-row-brought-nothing-positive Ukraine “will never” recognise any Russian annexation of territory it occupies, even if it is to try to secure a peace deal, Zelenskyy added, and he repeated that he would only accept a ceasefire if it was followed by robust security guarantees that had the confidence of his country’s people. Though Russia has said it will insist on incorporating territories that it occupies, for Ukraine it would always be “a temporary occupation”, Zelenskyy insisted, even if his country lacks the military muscle to expel Russia from all of the country at the moment. I.E. they want the territory back but are willing to let it go for purposes of getting a deal, but not without getting a solid security guarantee. Of course, we know that's something Putin and his little puppet are never going to give them. That's forcing Zelensky to work with Europe to try and hammer something out that they could find acceptable. Heh, Trump cut them out negotiations, and now they're returning the favor. That's justice for ya. Bottom-line though, seems to be there's just no fixing this mess sadly. U.S. isn't going to help Ukraine, and the sooner everyone accepts that and moves on from depending on us the better. Fortunately, seems Zelensky has gotten the message loud and clear and is only keeping the door open to still making a deal with the U.S. for the purpose of optics. I'm pretty sure he knows there's no chance of it really happening now. The question I think now is has the rest of Europe and the free world really settled with that, and I'm not sure they have just yet. 3 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 4 Author Posted March 4 Ufa Oil in Russia is on fire... The distance from the Ukrainian border is approximately the distance from Chicago to Jacksonville. 4 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 4 Author Posted March 4 30 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Trump paused all aid to Ukraine. Not surprised Now if Trump would pause his own breathing for a few days, we'd be really getting somewhere. 6 Quote
tsar4 Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/to-president-zelenskyy-from-embarrassed-americans?source=rawlink&utm_source=rawlink&share=79f294ba-9d41-46da-a82d-2c06d31af2e4 2 Quote
Raptorpat Posted Friday at 04:25 AM Posted Friday at 04:25 AM trump folks talking to Ukraine opposition parties https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-allies-secret-talks-volodymyr-zelenskyy-opposition-ukraine-elections-yulia-tymoshenko-petro-poroshenko/ 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted Sunday at 08:14 PM Author Posted Sunday at 08:14 PM https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3967895-putin-rejects-any-concessions-in-future-peace-talks-with-ukraine-isw.html 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted Sunday at 10:23 PM Author Posted Sunday at 10:23 PM Just our luck, we don't get the Vance with huevos... 2 Quote
katt_goddess Posted Sunday at 11:32 PM Posted Sunday at 11:32 PM 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: Just our luck, we don't get the Vance with huevos... Fighting for democracy would clash with his guyliner. 2 Quote
tsar4 Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM Author Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM (edited) Wrong thread. Edited yesterday at 01:09 AM by tsar4 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM (edited) Not sure what is going on here. Anonymous posted, then deleted this post. Other sites are reporting it, but I've never heard of them. Edited yesterday at 01:06 AM by tsar4 2 Quote
katt_goddess Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 22 hours ago, tsar4 said: Not sure what is going on here. Anonymous posted, then deleted this post. Other sites are reporting it, but I've never heard of them. This was pulled because it was found to be a hoax report by a pro-Russian group. There is work being done on that particular landing platform to extend it so the pics of it being torn up are correct for that but not for that report. 3 Quote
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