CountFrylock Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Those are both good ones. New Frontier in particular is great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 this confirms there won't be a marathon on january 2nd unless toonami really thinks taking a 3 week break makes sense right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Not that anybody else really cares, but I take it this means the remaining Death Beat(s) episodes are getting postponed? EDIT: Did some digging, found out they're airing the Sunday night after. So yes, just not as much as I was expecting them to. Edited December 11, 2020 by PokeNirvash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, PokeNirvash said: Not that anybody else really cares, but I take it this means the remaining Death Beat(s) episodes are getting postponed? they'll air the very next night on regular adultswim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Good-bye, anime on Toonami in December. Good-bye you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Dude, we still have this Saturday and the Bebop marathon on Boxing Day. Save the first goodbye for the latter date, and the second for the former. Edited December 11, 2020 by PokeNirvash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 we really don't know what we have schedule wise because this just proves at any moment AT&T Can Pull the rug out from under toonami if they feel like hbo max needs to be hyped up more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 We should be so lucky to get New Frontier instead of Death Beats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Jman said: We should be so lucky to get New Frontier instead of Death Beats. if it was just death beats sure but it's the entire lineup being replaced to act as one big advertisement for HBO Max i don't like these marathons/events where HBO Max has to be hyped up like it's the best thing ever it reeks of desperation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I'm all for more DC movies on Toonami and that Wonder Woman one is pretty new even. If we get good movies on Toonami for our trouble then they can shill HBO Max more for all I care. I already have the dang subscription though, I have since the launch in May. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Don’t suppose we can get Batman Soul of the Dragon soon enough? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sketch said: I'm all for more DC movies on Toonami and that Wonder Woman one is pretty new even. If we get good movies on Toonami for our trouble then they can shill HBO Max more for all I care. I already have the dang subscription though, I have since the launch in May. I Wouldn't go defending moves that only happened because toonami had no say in the matter and just had to praise hbo max on air because AT&T said so if AT&T Can just hijack the block at any moment to say "Hey Guys I Know you already had a planned schedule in mind but I'm gonna need you to do a hbo max promotional event" then whose to say 2021 won't be crammed full of moments like this with how much debt AT&T Put themselves in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I mean just get that CGI anime ninja Batman movie, if you're gonna shove it on Toonami! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Or, HBO offered the movies for free or super cheap as an optional holiday promotion, and Toonami wasn't going to turn it down because some random weebs on a site they don't even know about might get their panties in a twist over it. Wonder Woman's a super popular IP right now; the first movie made over 800 million dollars and the sequel comes out at Christmas. Getting some related movies for free that appeal to a larger audience than just their usual group of depressed millennial nerds, which also buys them an extra week of episodes for the shows they currently have in case securing new ones is still difficult next year, is a win/win for the block. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, CountFrylock said: I Wouldn't go defending moves that only happened because toonami had no say in the matter and just had to praise hbo max on air because AT&T said so if AT&T Can just hijack the block at any moment to say "Hey Guys I Know you already had a planned schedule in mind but I'm gonna need you to do a hbo max promotional event" then whose to say 2021 won't be crammed full of moments like this with how much debt AT&T Put themselves in? If it's not reruns, then bring it on. It might be the only way we get to see a lot more American action animation on Toonami. Besides, AT&T probably isn't going to be giving Toonami a tremendous acquisitions budget for 2021 (hopefully more than 2020 at least) so stretching material and getting more free movies would help keep things from getting stale. Edited December 12, 2020 by Sketch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, EmpressAngel said: Or, HBO offered the movies for free or super cheap as an optional holiday promotion, and Toonami wasn't going to turn it down because some random weebs on a site they don't even know about might get their panties in a twist over it. Wonder Woman's a super popular IP right now; the first movie made over 800 million dollars and the sequel comes out at Christmas. Getting some related movies for free that appeal to a larger audience than just their usual group of depressed millennial nerds, which also buys them an extra week of episodes for the shows they currently have in case securing new ones is still difficult next year, is a win/win for the block. I Doubt AT&T Gave them the choice to decline....Optional means they had the choice to say no and with AT&T in the state they are in...that doesn't seem all that likely Edited December 12, 2020 by CountFrylock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sketch said: If it's not reruns, then bring it on. It might be the only way we get to see a lot more American action animation on Toonami. Besides, AT&T probably isn't going to be giving Toonami a tremendous acquisitions budget for 2021 (hopefully more than 2020 at least) so stretching material and getting more free movies would help keep things from getting stale. if it's at the expense of toonami becoming nothing more than a commercial for hbo max then I'd rather not have any of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, CountFrylock said: if it's at the expense of toonami becoming nothing more than a commercial for hbo max then I'd rather not have any of this That's certainly an exaggeration. I know you don't like disruptions of your shows but this really isn't something to fret about. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Sketch said: That's certainly an exaggeration. I know you don't like disruptions of your shows but this really isn't something to fret about. i would agree if this year wasn't covid-19 riddled but because it was AT&T isn't acting like they would if this was just a normal year....the way they've marketed hbo max is proof of that and unless 2021 is a major improvement over 2020 i don't really see them changing the desperation tune 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I think this bodes well for Toonami to eventually be an animated category replacing Crunchyroll on on HBO Max, actually. This certainly opens the door for more animated DC stuff on HBO Max, under the Toonami name and streaming alongside Toonami's usual anime offerings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 hours ago, CountFrylock said: i would agree if this year wasn't covid-19 riddled but because it was AT&T isn't acting like they would if this was just a normal year....the way they've marketed hbo max is proof of that and unless 2021 is a major improvement over 2020 i don't really see them changing the desperation tune Toonami would never have done these HBO MAX deals if the pandemic never happened. DeMarco said in the Spring to expect a ton more reruns and marathons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 AT&T is trying everything they can to get subscribers for HBO Max before people are no longer stuck at home. They’re sacrificing blockbuster film revenue and pissing off basically the whole film industry to get people to buy into HBO Max immediately. They are throwing away probably half a billion dollars by putting WW84, Matrix 4 and those other films on their own service rather than waiting for theaters to be safe again or at least selling the rights to Netflix. I think if WW84 doesn’t get them a few million more subscribers then they’re gonna have to seriously rethink their strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I'll take this. Haven't been watching Toonami since I haven't been following the shows, but I'll probably tune in for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Sounds good to me. I should parlay this into actually watching much of Toonami live again and even tweeting while it's on. Haven't done that in what feels like years. On the other hand, I actually feel bad for whoever's watching Gemusetto. Your finale got shunted off to a Sunday night for the new (old) DC hotness. I mean, I wasn't watching it, but I felt it was nice to have some unbridled variety on the block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Blatch said: On the other hand, I actually feel bad for whoever's watching Gemusetto. Yo. ✋ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Sketch said: AT&T is trying everything they can to get subscribers for HBO Max before people are no longer stuck at home. They’re sacrificing blockbuster film revenue and pissing off basically the whole film industry to get people to buy into HBO Max immediately. They are throwing away probably half a billion dollars by putting WW84, Matrix 4 and those other films on their own service rather than waiting for theaters to be safe again or at least selling the rights to Netflix. I think if WW84 doesn’t get them a few million more subscribers then they’re gonna have to seriously rethink their strategy. it's not like covid-19's gonna magically disappear as soon as it's 2021 and even when the vaccine hits it''s unlikely large gatherings would suddenly make a return so the thought that it won't be long before people are out and about in groups again is quite silly especially since we still have a lot of people who ignore safety guidelines and think they shouldn't have to obey them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 hours ago, CountFrylock said: it's not like covid-19's gonna magically disappear as soon as it's 2021 and even when the vaccine hits it''s unlikely large gatherings would suddenly make a return so the thought that it won't be long before people are out and about in groups again is quite silly especially since we still have a lot of people who ignore safety guidelines and think they shouldn't have to obey them I didn't mean to imply that AT&T thinks the pandemic will be over early in 2021 but right now there's a captive audience that's isn't even interested in subscribing and they're doing whatever they can to change their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 On 12/12/2020 at 12:02 AM, EmpressAngel said: Or, HBO offered the movies for free or super cheap as an optional holiday promotion, and Toonami wasn't going to turn it down because some random weebs on a site they don't even know about might get their panties in a twist over it. Wonder Woman's a super popular IP right now; the first movie made over 800 million dollars and the sequel comes out at Christmas. Getting some related movies for free that appeal to a larger audience than just their usual group of depressed millennial nerds, which also buys them an extra week of episodes for the shows they currently have in case securing new ones is still difficult next year, is a win/win for the block. DON'T YOU DARE TALK LOGIC HERE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 17 hours ago, ben0119 said: DON'T YOU DARE TALK LOGIC HERE! How is it logical to say AT&T Offered these movies as an option they could decline? they are desperate to get everyone in the country subscribed to hbo max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) So what it’s being done to promote blockbuster films and an app that is probably Warner’s only way to profit until then? It makes money. Which DC is usually pretty good at. Try having Asta or Kirito sell Diet Coke like Alfred and Batman do. Edited December 14, 2020 by Jman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 11:12 PM, CountFrylock said: How is it logical to say AT&T Offered these movies as an option they could decline? How is it not? While AT&T is pushing HBO Max, it's a pretty big leap to assume they forced these on Toonami and said "you have no choice." They probably offered it last minute and Toonami took them up on it. Until any evidence contrary comes out that's the most logical scenario. Toonami hasn't had the most stable of schedules anyway. Remember the entire back half of 2014? I don't think there was a stable schedule for more than two weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 DC animated is pretty well regarded actually I believe but honestly there is a lot of overlap between action shows like that and Anime anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) On 12/14/2020 at 10:57 PM, CaptainStarwind said: How is it not? While AT&T is pushing HBO Max, it's a pretty big leap to assume they forced these on Toonami and said "you have no choice." They probably offered it last minute and Toonami took them up on it. Until any evidence contrary comes out that's the most logical scenario. Toonami hasn't had the most stable of schedules anyway. Remember the entire back half of 2014? I don't think there was a stable schedule for more than two weeks. because not one thing on the block demanded another break like this on top of the bebop marathon everything except Fire Force(2)is a completed dub on the line up and the second season is up to EP15 that's 10 episodes ahead of the last episode toonami aired and since funimation will probably slow down on remote dubbing due to the holidays I Doubt fire force is gonna dub several more while the block's on hiatus(EP15 came out this month on funimation now) with that in mind....what does toonami really gain from a potential 3 week break? Edited December 17, 2020 by CountFrylock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, CountFrylock said: because not one thing on the block demanded another break like this on top of the bebop marathon everything except Fire Force(2)is a completed dub on the line up and the second season is up to EP15 that's 10 episodes ahead of the last episode toonami aired and since funimation will probably slow down on remote dubbing due to the holidays I Doubt fire force is gonna dub several more while the block's on hiatus(EP15 came out this month on funimation now) with that in mind....what does toonami really gain from a potential 3 week break? I don't think their goal is to gain anything, really, other than to just change the block up for a bit. Toonami always airs a marathon around Christmas, and unless I'm mistaken, there's been a demand to see both western animation (due to the lack thereof) and movies (due to dislike of marathons) on Toonami. I think DeMarco and co. have made it clear that they'll make at least SOME programming decisions based on fan favorites or fan demand (Outlaw Star comes to mind), so it was probably made with that in mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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