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It's only a week and a day away, and we still don't know if Toonami is doing anything special for the Saturday before Memorial Day. Will they run a marathon, or will they just keep going because the first half of the block is most likely gonna be just reruns anyway??

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3 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

It's only a week and a day away, and we still don't know if Toonami is doing anything special for the Saturday before Memorial Day. Will they run a marathon, or will they just keep going because the first half of the block is most likely gonna be just reruns anyway??

Hey that's right it's a holiday! 😮 I'm sure we'll get word of something soon.

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1 hour ago, korosu said:

if you see anything on that page that's incorrect and you have a source to back it up i'll happily edit it

It's not so much that the schedules are incorrect but it's possible they will change. I'm particularly doubtful that episodes 87 and 88 of MHA will air on May 23rd and May 30th. 87 was listed for this week on TV Guide until 86 got delayed a week, so a similar situation may occur.

However, if they were going to have a marathon on May 23rd you'd think they'd have announced that by now. Though it is possible they'll do an on air announcement with a promo. It's looking more like they decided not to have a marathon for Memorial Day weekend. Rick & Morty, Shivering Truth and JJ Villard's Fairy Tails are all airing new episodes on May 24th. If they have to rerun MHA episode 86 because 87 isn't ready by then, they'll just do that. It would be rather nice of them to not run a marathon since we already had the DBZ Kai one recently and people who would have been traveling that weekend most likely are staying home.

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I think that's fair to say at this point. I was thinking an MHA marathon would make sense, but it looks like they won't even be going for that.

Black Clover is firing on all cylinders right now, and it is long overdue for a marathon, so it would have made sense too. But I guess we'll just keep on truckin' with the normal lineup, even if the first half is all reruns.

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My best theory is that they have decided to simply rerun the last 3 episodes to allow FUNimation time to catch up. That means that 84 will get 2 runs (4/25 and 5/23), 85 will get THREE (5/2, 5/9, and 5/30), 86 will get 2 (5/16 and 6/6), and 87 will resume premieres on 6/13 with 88 hopefully airing on 6/20. Then maybe it's a special on 6/27?

Not sure what the blue hell they're thinking by rewinding the clock back to just episode 84. And also, I guess I could point out the absurdity of having the same episode play THREE times in one month, but why bother??

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2 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

My best theory is that they have decided to simply rerun the last 3 episodes to allow FUNimation time to catch up. That means that 84 will get 2 runs (4/25 and 5/23), 85 will get THREE (5/2, 5/9, and 5/30), 86 will get 2 (5/16 and 6/6), and 87 will resume premieres on 6/13 with 88 hopefully airing on 6/20. Then maybe it's a special on 6/27?

Not sure what the blue hell they're thinking by rewinding the clock back to just episode 84. And also, I guess I could point out the absurdity of having the same episode play THREE times in one month, but why bother??

MHA rerun for three weeks?  that seems like enough time.

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It should be plenty of time. I don't know why they didn't just opt for a marathon on a holiday weekend but I don't mind having just 1 rerun (well 2 or 3 depending on how you look at it) vs a whole block of reruns in marathon form. I'm guessing that FUNimation has told them that episode 87 might not be ready by June 6th and they decided it was best not do a marathon this week and replay 86 on June 6th. But then again if they need more than 2 weeks for 87 then it might be cutting it close with 88. Replaying the entire fight between Deku and Gentle over the next 3 weeks is probably a better call and potentially less confusing to the viewers. They should really say something on Facebook though.

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normally You'd use a marathon when people aren't gonna be home or you need to stall for time for new show(s)

 

neither of those are really happening right now....most people are at home 24/7 now and with the budget slashed it's unlikely toonami's thinking about new shows anytime soon

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13 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Where is your information that the budget is "slashed?" I haven't seen that indicated anywhere! All I HAVE seen is an acknowledgment that Toonami will have a more difficult time acquiring shows due to the pandemic.

DeMarco mentioned this on his ask.fm.

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23 hours ago, elfie said:

DeMarco mentioned this on his ask.fm.

Well, the wording he used was "cut", not "slashed." And from what we previously knew, what's happening now would more likely affect the 2021 budget if it resets every year, but I suppose the 2020 budget was actually made prior to the year's beginning, but had to be adjusted downward about 2 months in. This is all speculation, of course, but DeMarco's statement that the budget was cut at least partially supports this hypothesis.

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still it doesn't seem like the budget's in a good spot for 2020 considering we've only had a single new show(SAO Underworld) and there's been no word on anything to look forward to in the near future

there's been no indication that we're getting anything new for the rest of the year since a lot of plans across the entertainment industry have had to change due to covid-19

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Well Toonami is doing what it has to do, at least the season is almost over. I suspect in 3 weeks time the remaining dubs will be finished for season 4. 

1 hour ago, elfie said:

People are already declaring Toonami over by end of the year.

Jason and Gill continue to shut that down, and I’ll believe them that they have original shows planned through till 2023. 

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problem is toonami's never had to deal with a global pandemic before....this is a new situation for everyone involved and it's not going away anytime soon

the dub process has slowed down drastically as a result of the transition from studio to home recording and with Japan's 2020 being uncertain due to covid-19

many shows that would have premiered this year won't and will be put on the shelf temporarily until conditions are safer

so i imagine the best question to ask at this time is...do you think conditions are safe enough for dub studios to open back up and for animators(not just in japan but everywhere else)to return to HQ

because until conditions are safer things will remain as they are

 

 

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9 hours ago, CountFrylock said:

the dub process has slowed down drastically as a result of the transition from studio to home recording and with Japan's 2020 being uncertain due to covid-19

True. Just last week Funimation said they're finally continuing the dub of Fruits Basket Season 2 with the fourth episode released last Monday. The timing for this being made after MHA 86's dub just aired is clear- they're no longer doing more than 2 dubs at the same time, because they no longer have access to tons of recording booths in an office. I predict they've spent this time casting for the new characters that will appear in the last two MHA episodes, and that's what's delaying the broadcast on Toonami.

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2 hours ago, elfie said:

True. Just last week Funimation said they're finally continuing the dub of Fruits Basket Season 2 with the fourth episode released last Monday. The timing for this being made after MHA 86's dub just aired is clear- they're no longer doing more than 2 dubs at the same time, because they no longer have access to tons of recording booths in an office. I predict they've spent this time casting for the new characters that will appear in the last two MHA episodes, and that's what's delaying the broadcast on Toonami.

The irony is that it may be the mass-gathering super-spreader events that are the REAL catalyst for this pandemic, so recording in booths may actually be relatively safe! I'll bet they'll be back in the booth by July, but we still won't be having sporting events with fans until at least September.

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10 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

But Toonami had to deal with the Swine Flu in 2009--oh right.

Not about to dare declare Toonami over but it is certainly fair to say they're in kind of a weakened state right now.

You've been saying Toonami is going to end every week for the last two years. Every time there is a scheduling change, or a show is moved back, or the block gets shortened. 

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34 minutes ago, elfie said:

When it's safe to hold cons again, the first thing main stages in convention centers should hold is a performance of Hero Too.

Probably more trouble than its worth. Funi would have to do a whole deal with whoever to get live stage rights for the song. Then they'd have to work out if it's the Japanese or English version of the song. If it's just going to be a recording or a live band, or if they're going to do like what they did with Miku and have those 3D screens put up, and have models of the characters. 
I have been to a couple of events with 3D screens and they are nearly impossible to get to work right unless the auditorium was built for a concert. Cons that are doing multiple stage shows usually won't get it right. What ends up happening is the screens aren't set up right, the audience isn't in the right position, or there are light issues. The one year my local con tried to set it up and it was horrible. The people who have trouble getting microphones and powerpoint to work for panels thought they could set up a 3D screen show. 

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14 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

Speaking of casting new characters for the last two MHA episodes, did they ever reveal who the Japanese voice for best non-masked hero waifu Miruko is?

my-hero-academia-rabbit-mirko-cosplay-lo

Hell yeah!

I'm curious who's going to voice her in English too.

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11 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

You've been saying Toonami is going to end every week for the last two years. Every time there is a scheduling change, or a show is moved back, or the block gets shortened. 

Huh? You must have me mixed up with someone else. I most certainly have never said Toonami is about to end. Am I a realist who realizes Toonami has competition and doesn't always get the best ratings? Of course. But that's a far cry from saying it's gonna get cancelled again soon! This [as] Toonami is most likely gonna outlive the old CN Toonami!!

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12 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

Probably more trouble than its worth. Funi would have to do a whole deal with whoever to get live stage rights for the song. Then they'd have to work out if it's the Japanese or English version of the song. If it's just going to be a recording or a live band, or if they're going to do like what they did with Miku and have those 3D screens put up, and have models of the characters. 
I have been to a couple of events with 3D screens and they are nearly impossible to get to work right unless the auditorium was built for a concert. Cons that are doing multiple stage shows usually won't get it right. What ends up happening is the screens aren't set up right, the audience isn't in the right position, or there are light issues. The one year my local con tried to set it up and it was horrible. The people who have trouble getting microphones and powerpoint to work for panels thought they could set up a 3D screen show. 

Big conventions like SDCC or NYCC have auditoriums the size of a real concert hall. It doesn't have to be the holograms either, or even the original performer. It can be a cover from someone else. And Im not saying the day will arrive soon either. Anime fans will want to catch up with sharing interests in anime that they couldn't previously because of the pandemic, so they could potentially share them years from now when it's safe to congregate again.

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12 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

You've been saying Toonami is going to end every week for the last two years. Every time there is a scheduling change, or a show is moved back, or the block gets shortened. 

You may be getting confused with CountFryLock.

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20 minutes ago, elfie said:

Big conventions like SDCC or NYCC have auditoriums the size of a real concert hall. It doesn't have to be the holograms either, or even the original performer. It can be a cover from someone else. And Im not saying the day will arrive soon either. Anime fans will want to catch up with sharing interests in anime that they couldn't previously because of the pandemic, so they could potentially share them years from now when it's safe to congregate again.

 All 2020 cons have been canceled so nothing con related will be soon. Still a lot of red tape and money for funimation just to have a feel good concert. With how the economy is I doubt funimation will be taking many risks for a few years till they rebuild their nest-egg. By then Hero too references will be about as timely as the Haruhi Dance. I really doubt they'll even bother buying panel space in 2021 for cons. Pretty much what happened with E3. Had it not been canceled this year the only one showing was going to be Microsoft, as Nintendo has switched to doing all of their press-releases online, and sony decided to do the same this year. Companies are realizing that convention presence is antiquated and just costs money. It's like name the last time you saw an ad for a Hershey Bar. There are none because the product is so well known that they don't believe that advertising the product would increase sales enough to justify the expenditure. Funimation may have that same revelation now that wallets are getting tighter. 

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6 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

 All 2020 cons have been canceled so nothing con related will be soon. Still a lot of red tape and money for funimation just to have a feel good concert. With how the economy is I doubt funimation will be taking many risks for a few years till they rebuild their nest-egg. By then Hero too references will be about as timely as the Haruhi Dance. I really doubt they'll even bother buying panel space in 2021 for cons. Pretty much what happened with E3. Had it not been canceled this year the only one showing was going to be Microsoft, as Nintendo has switched to doing all of their press-releases online, and sony decided to do the same this year. Companies are realizing that convention presence is antiquated and just costs money. It's like name the last time you saw an ad for a Hershey Bar. There are none because the product is so well known that they don't believe that advertising the product would increase sales enough to justify the expenditure. Funimation may have that same revelation now that wallets are getting tighter. 

Soon doesn't necessarily mean cons won't come back. Even in 5 or 10 years.

Before this we had a con literally every week somewhere in the country! Even during times of economic struggles.

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2 minutes ago, elfie said:

Soon doesn't necessarily mean cons won't come back. Even in 5 or 10 years.

Before this we had a con literally every week somewhere in the country! Even during times of economic struggles.

We'll have cons again in 2021, the point I was getting at was that funimation may not be at them because con space is expensive and it'll take time for a lot of companies to recover financially from the shutdown. I wouldn't be shocked if some cons offer companies reduced rates or even free space at cons; just to have content for the people going. E3 was doing this with a lot of indie studios just to fill up space. 

 

 

6 hours ago, EmpressAngel said:

There is no Japanese version of the song. Both of them used the same English recording by Chrissy Costanza.

Cool, didn't know that. Don't know if that would solve live performance rights for cons, but at least there's just the one version. 


 

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4 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

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Cool, didn't know that. Don't know if that would solve live performance rights for cons, but at least there's just the one version. 


 

Also left Funinmation a break from having to record a whole translated song from someone's house.

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32 minutes ago, elfie said:

Also left Funinmation a break from having to record a whole translated song from someone's house.

I think people overestimate studios for anime dubbing. It kinda shows what a real waste of money a lot of the studio is. You could show me an episode pre-shutdown and now, and I wouldn't be able to tell you any key audio differences that I can hear that would ever justify needing to record in a studio. It's easier for the ADR staff and editors to be in a studio, but the end product feels like it would have been the same. It's extra polish that really goes unnoticed. Maybe if I put on my $300 headphones and listened to the audio with my eyes shut and focused I might be able to pick some quality drops, but from my shit TV speakers I didn't notice anything. Kinda reminds me of when Kiser on team4star spent like 8 weeks doing all those edits to rocks and 18s dress and hair etc, and nobody noticed. So then he made a 40 something episode series going down the hundreds of needless hours spent doing that to finally get recognition for it. It's the same with audio that if you have to point out the quality for people to actually take notice, then it's kinda unnecessary and a placebo at a point. 

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