My Hero Academia: #86 or 86'ed??

[OwlChemist81]

This is just too perfect.

Aside from the whole-block interruption that was the DBZ Kai marathon, My Hero Academia has dodged quite a few bullets when it comes to having to rerun an episode, including the then-improbable prospect of having Episodes 84 and 85 premiere as scheduled, but has Toonami's luck in keeping its flagship show relatively uninterrupted finally caught up with it?

The next episode is quite an interesting coincidence, considering that its episode number has a meaning other than one more than 85: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(term)

Interestingly enough, this article leaves off this reference that my eagle eye spotted in classic CN staple Tom & Jerry's "Cue Ball Cat:"

But I digress. "86'ed" essentially means the item you're trying to order is out of stock or otherwise unavailable. Episode #86 is up next and it's quite possible it won't be available, as in it will be 86'ed by the coronavirus and FUNimation. However, since FUNimation has NOT yet streamed it on its service, it may be the first episode of MHA that plays on Toonami first before ending up on FUNimation NOW. IF it's not 86'ed, we might be getting an honest-to-God dub premiere of MHA on Toonami! One might theorize that the cost of allowing Toonami first plays of the remaining 3 episodes of MHA before their service is able to premiere it was for Toonami to give the show a weekday run from the beginning to increase its exposure, but I'm not really sure how that tit-for-tat works. Since the show premiered exactly a year ago today, on May 5th, 2018, it's quite possible it was renegotiated for more durable rights by Adult Swim, and that includes not only the dub premieres of the final 3 episodes of Season 4, but Season 5 as well!

So what's it gonna be? Dub premiere of #86, or MHA premieres "86'ed!?" The answer may indicate more than that episode's dub premiere status!

Edited May 6, 2020 by OwlChemist81

[The1gairon]

Toonami hasn't announced anything different with Episode 86 yet. But Funimation not having it on its service under a week before it's projected to air, without any marathon or schedule announcement by Toonami at this point, is very concerning.

[PokeNirvash]

[sigh] Goddammit Al.

[Sketch]

I fully expect episode 86 to stream on FUNimation before it airs on Toonami even if it's the same dang day. However, with no word from FUNi yet, if the actual schedule didn't say 86 was going to air this week there would be basically no reason to expect it to. But that's what the schedule shows and furthermore I believe the following week list episode 87. Dummy schedules don't usually use actual episode numbers so it would seem they have every intention of airing 86 and 87 this Saturday and next Saturday respectively. It's entirely possible that FUNimation will not be able to make the deadline but they're trying something entirely unprecedented here. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out but for now my guess is FUNi will say something in the next couple of days, the episode will stream by Saturday and the planned Toonami broadcast will not be 86ed.

[EmpressAngel]

I'm guessing FUNi uploads the episode on Saturday morning to give themselves a few hours. It's only a day ahead of what seems to be a two-week schedule for episodes, so that's doable. The real problem is 87/88, which almost definitely won't be ready in time for Toonami. The best option is probably to just reair 86 next week, 87 the week after, then give that an encore to stretch things out before the finale's ready.

[Sketch]

86 got 86’d till next week. 85 reruns this Saturday according to Facebook.

[The1gairon]

There you go.

[ben0119]

 

Here is the OFFICIAL link.

I suppose Funimation wasn't able to keep up after all.  At least Demarco didn't do a marathon and make us wait on the whole block.

And even more shocking, one of Al's crackpot speculation threads wasn't made in complete vain!

[Top Gun]

Fully expected this to happen at some point.  Honestly it's an amazing accomplishment that they managed to get the previous two episodes out as quickly as they did.

[The1gairon]

One thing not everyone is talking about (because we can't see into the long-term) is that this may be the end of Funimation's simuldubs coming out a week or so after the Japanese airing as we know it. Working on a dub without anyone in person is slowing down the productions by at least 200%. The only reason they were able to do it before is because everyone was working into the same office literally at all hours of the day. Ironically, we've gone back to the old way of dubbing, where you'll now have to wait for a dub one year after the original airing, with everyone working with subpar machinery, inside someone's closet.

Also one thing I realized: this week marks the first time in a long time where Toonami will only have 2 dub premieres. And given how I don't give a SHIT about Black Clover, that leaves me only Jojo's dub, which means I gotta stay up BY 2 AM!!!

Edited May 8, 2020 by elfie

[PokeNirvash]

One dub premiere, you mean. Black Clover's simuldub is still ahead of the [as] broadcast.

[EmpressAngel]

Why the fuck would dubs go back to being a year behind the sub? This isn't going to last forever; once they're able to, they'll go back to recording in the studio on a daily basis like normal. There may be a bit more of a lag, but they're not just going to sit there and wait for a show to end before they start dubbing it.

[The1gairon]

Clearly if I don't care about Black Clover, that also implies I never follow where FunimationNow is in their upload schedule or where Toonami is in airing it, doesn't it?

[PokeNirvash]

You still cited incorrect facts, no amount of hate for the Chad Shounen Hero and his inexplicably long-running anime adaptation can change your gaff. And even if you edit your post in hindsight, my response is still there to remind you that you fucked up!

[CountFrylock]

1 hour ago, EmpressAngel said:

Why the fuck would dubs go back to being a year behind the sub? This isn't going to last forever; once they're able to, they'll go back to recording in the studio on a daily basis like normal. There may be a bit more of a lag, but they're not just going to sit there and wait for a show to end before they start dubbing it.

it won't last forever but it's very unlikely things will go back to normal this year...that's why we're constantly hearing about the NFL potentially playing without any fans in an empty stadium despite the fact The NFL Season is still 4 months away

nobody is confident that things will be under control anytime soon

so its foolish to think what's happening with funimation and toonami is just a very temporary setback when this could drag on for another year or more for all we know

[Top Gun]

11 minutes ago, CountFrylock said:

it won't last forever but it's very unlikely things will go back to normal this year...that's why we're constantly hearing about the NFL potentially playing without any fans in an empty stadium despite the fact The NFL Season is still 4 months away

nobody is confident that things will be under control anytime soon

so its foolish to think what's happening with funimation and toonami is just a very temporary setback when this could drag on for another year or more for all we know

A single person sitting alone in a recording booth is miles away from 70,000 people crammed in close proximity in a stadium.

[CountFrylock]

1 hour ago, Top Gun said:

A single person sitting alone in a recording booth is miles away from 70,000 people crammed in close proximity in a stadium.

i was comparing them because it's just as unlikely for the NFL to play with fans this year as it is unlikely for funimation to return to how they normally operate

not to mention Japan's Animation production process(funimation can't dub what doesn't exist yet)is a major thing to acknowledge as we have no idea when they'll be back up and running on stuff like black clover

all we have are some people optimistic that shows like black clover will resume within a few months and before toonami has to put black clover reruns on the block

 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by CountFrylock

[EmpressAngel]

10 minutes ago, CountFrylock said:

i was comparing them because it's just as unlikely for the NFL to play with fans this year as it is unlikely for funimation to return to how they normally operate

Nah, the private business with individual recording booths that can be easily sanitized between uses, and editing stations with minimum amounts of contact seems substantially more likely to get their train back on the wheels than the stadiums full of thousands of people sitting within inches of each others' sweaty asses. 

[EmpressAngel]

3 hours ago, elfie said:

Clearly if I don't care about Black Clover, that also implies I never follow where FunimationNow is in their upload schedule or where Toonami is in airing it, doesn't it?

Why the hell would I know what you're keeping up with? You're really too lazy to even glance at a website before making dramatic posts, huh?

[CountFrylock]

2 hours ago, EmpressAngel said:

Nah, the private business with individual recording booths that can be easily sanitized between uses, and editing stations with minimum amounts of contact seems substantially more likely to get their train back on the wheels than the stadiums full of thousands of people sitting within inches of each others' sweaty asses. 

even if they can do that....not much they can do if there's nothing for them to dub

would be pointless for them to return to the studios when It's still TBA on when many anime's will resume production in japan

 

 

[EmpressAngel]

3 hours ago, CountFrylock said:

even if they can do that....not much they can do if there's nothing for them to dub

would be pointless for them to return to the studios when It's still TBA on when many anime's will resume production in japan

And if there's no anime being produced, why would they be up to a year behind on dubbing those shows? That was the entire point of my first post that you replied to, do try to keep up.

[AnimationFan14]

[The1gairon]

Yep, I did expect this. My worry was that every company involved wasn't communicating with fans until literally 1 days before Toonami airs this week, but then, I'm someone who is always wired to expect people to communicate the right things at the right time.

[CountFrylock]

1 hour ago, elfie said:

Yep, I did expect this. My worry was that every company involved wasn't communicating with fans until literally 1 days before Toonami airs this week, but then, I'm someone who is always wired to expect people to communicate the right things at the right time.

i suppose this is what happens during a pandemic....communication becomes a bizarre hassle

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by CountFrylock

[CountFrylock]

21 hours ago, EmpressAngel said:

And if there's no anime being produced, why would they be up to a year behind on dubbing those shows? That was the entire point of my first post that you replied to, do try to keep up.

Your point seemed to be "this won't last forever and things will be back to normal eventually" but will they?...after Covid-19 dominated the world and news headlines

will all animation studios and dub studios just simply return to business as usual instead of working differently due to what's been happening

i assume that's why elfie has doubts on funimation's simuldubs continuing in the same fashion

[The1gairon]

1 minute ago, CountFrylock said:

Your point seemed to be "this won't last forever and things will be back to normal eventually" but will they?...after Covid-19 dominated the world and news headlines

will all animation studios and dub studios just simply return to business as usual instead of working differently due to what's been happening

i assume that's why elfie has doubts on funimation's simuldubs continuing in the same fashion

Buddy, every day, more and more companies lose money. That money can't just reappear when it's safe to go to work again! Plus, in the meantime more people won't be able to earn as much, leading them to spend less on entertainment, leading to entertainment companies going away. Everything affects everything.

[CountFrylock]

1 minute ago, elfie said:

Buddy, every day, more and more companies lose money. That money can't just reappear when it's safe to go to work again! Plus, in the meantime more people won't be able to earn as much, leading them to spend less on entertainment, leading to entertainment companies going away. Everything affects everything.

and everyday we come closer to just jumping out our windows while screaming "there's no hope"

it's truly a terrible time to be alive isn't it?

[EmpressAngel]

Yes, people are going to face issues with money in the coming months. And meanwhile, there's a well-known concept called the economic lipstick index, which has found that in times of major economic stress, inexpensive, unnecessary items like cosmetics (the primary focus of the research) tend to see a notable uptick in sales. People still want to treat themselves with small luxuries as a way to boost their mood in rough times. An $8 anime subscription fits pretty damn neatly in that "unnecessary, cheap, and fun" Venn diagram. In general, streaming services have seen a massive boom in subscriptions as a result of the pandemic.

It's gonna be some rough sailing ahead but it's not an automatic death sentence. Chill your shit, y'all.

[ben0119]

3 hours ago, elfie said:

Yep, I did expect this. My worry was that every company involved wasn't communicating with fans until literally 1 days before Toonami airs this week, but then, I'm someone who is always wired to expect people to communicate the right things at the right time.

You expect this when you don't do this?

[ben0119]

I swear, I thought I had seen the dumbest people could get, but this virus situation was shown that people are even dumber than I thought!

[ben0119]

2 hours ago, CountFrylock said:

and everyday we come closer to just jumping out our windows while screaming "there's no hope"

it's truly a terrible time to be alive isn't it?

 

 

[The1gairon]

13 hours ago, EmpressAngel said:

Yes, people are going to face issues with money in the coming months. And meanwhile, there's a well-known concept called the economic lipstick index, which has found that in times of major economic stress, inexpensive, unnecessary items like cosmetics (the primary focus of the research) tend to see a notable uptick in sales. People still want to treat themselves with small luxuries as a way to boost their mood in rough times. An $8 anime subscription fits pretty damn neatly in that "unnecessary, cheap, and fun" Venn diagram. In general, streaming services have seen a massive boom in subscriptions as a result of the pandemic.

It's gonna be some rough sailing ahead but it's not an automatic death sentence. Chill your shit, y'all.

Well okay. I can see how a lot of luxuries will still make big business in these times. Disney+ and Netflix both reported a rise in sales.

[Jman]

18 hours ago, EmpressAngel said:

Yes, people are going to face issues with money in the coming months. And meanwhile, there's a well-known concept called the economic lipstick index, which has found that in times of major economic stress, inexpensive, unnecessary items like cosmetics (the primary focus of the research) tend to see a notable uptick in sales. People still want to treat themselves with small luxuries as a way to boost their mood in rough times. An $8 anime subscription fits pretty damn neatly in that "unnecessary, cheap, and fun" Venn diagram. In general, streaming services have seen a massive boom in subscriptions as a result of the pandemic.

It's gonna be some rough sailing ahead but it's not an automatic death sentence. Chill your shit, y'all.

It’s funny, because the anime industry nearly imploded last economic downturn in the age of 4 episode per DVD volumes.  The changing nature of distribution has made the industry a lot more resilient.

[Sketch]

We're gonna see a lot less new dubs be produced than we have been seeing in recent years but both LA studios and FUNimation are adapting to the situation in order to dub some shows. Crunchyroll just quietly released the last chunk of a couple of their Winter season dubs with plans to resume work on other dubs and start dubbing some additional shows, they actually seem to be moving faster than FUNimation now. However, FUNimation is trickling out episodes of their Winter season dubs at a reasonable pace. It does seem to take about 2 weeks for an episode of anything to be dubbed though. They announced plans to dub Kaguya-sama Love is War seasons 1 and 2 (season 2 is currently simulcasting) so if they find themselves at a point where they don't have brand new anime to dub they may end up dubbing some other Aniplex shows like Love is War (and I personally hope they do dub Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Senpai in particular). There are still plenty of shows FUNimation has licensed that could finally get dubbed. But I'm pretty confident that the Japanese production side will resume sooner than some would expect (for better or worse).

[CountFrylock]

it all depends on how Japan deals with the virus in the coming weeks and months