SwimModSponges

"AI art is theft " has become such a ubiquitous catchphrase I'm like 80% sure it originated as a marketing slogan for Getty images or some other stock photo business that literally steals actual images from others. Who did I steal this picture from? Who is the victim of this crime. Tell me.

They're not stopping you. They're still stopping a lot of people. Heck they're stopping the people who sell you legal weed from legally holding the money they receive.

Fuck winter.

I have to snow blow the driveway. Fuck that shit. Least i didn't have to get up and do it at 6am.

https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/lab-grown-3d-printed-wood

Tell that to the feds.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marijuana-cannabis-reform-congress_n_63a0fb93e4b03e2cc50313a8 Not gonna happen and you can guess why.

Your argument creates an ownership vacuum.

Its more complicated than just "asking for something" and you know that. A human had an idea for an image. A human had to figure out how to put the idea into words. Did the human make visual art? No. They carefully arranged a series of words (then re-arranged them about a hundred times probably, then they went in and further modified sevtions of the image with more words until they were happy with the product. Is there an art to arranging flowers? The guy who designed the pattern on your wallpaper, is he an artist? What do y'all think of those pictures up there? Pretty neat, right?

You're limiting art and that is absurd. Art serves a myriad of purposes, chief of which is providing aesthetic beauty. If something "doesn't offer a unique perspective" but is still captivating and incredibly pleasing to the eye, does it really have no value? And I disagree with the premise that it has no "unique perspective". The "perspective" isn't a question of medium but of the individual engineering the prompt. Also prolly going to bed soon.

All right, fine. Part 2 then. This isn't one of those "can you detect the AI art" tests, don't give a damn about that. Just tell me what you think of each image.

Ok, so here's where we'll have the whole AI debate, instead of the trump NFT thread. Couple of different ways I've thought about jumping into the discussion, and I intend to go through and address the points already made, but first off I want us on the same page. So the first thing I want right out of the way is: an operational definition of "art". Yes, let's all climb up our own asses and get all snooty and decide what art "means". For real though, open question; what specific attributes makes something art versus not art? And by extension, what makes someone an artist? (spoiler alert- I'm not actually comfortable calling a prompt engineer an artist, but the product they make is 100% art. figure that one out.) Ok, let's hash out something we can agree on while I set up the next parts of the conversation (it involves grabbing a beer).

I'm going to be taking this conversation to the AI thread in the Arts folder. Just throwing that out there.

Lunch break is over now though.

Ooooh imma argue these so hard when i get home today.

Iran no longer exists on Twitter.

Just called my doggo a goober. She was laying down so i called her a tube of goober. Then i looked at my other doggo and said i've got two tubes of goobs. I am the walrus.

So, I was gushing about AI art to someone I work with tonight, and she comes at it with the perspective that she thinks "AI art is theft". Ok so, you know what? I think that's just a catchphrase people use to oversimplify the process of what machine learning entails. I mean I didn't tell her that, that's just something I thought of here and now. I basically simplify it to that adage "all artist steal, great artists steal from everyone" or some bullshit like that, whatever, not the point. When you look at the sheer, near infinite variety of amazing things that can be created... I mean how is that not a net gain for humanity? This year, I have seen the most captivating and engaging images and works of art I have ever seen. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. What a time to be alive, amirite? *not mine, found on reddit.

From what i understand, 20% or so were purchased by one specific individual, who is likely in Trump’s orbit. I mean its obvious the whole thing is a con, but its pretty likely that they're also manipulating the market on those cards, in addition to just generally all the other scammy parts of selling NFTs. Also apparently NFTs are incredible for money laundering.

Somebody made this with AI. CRAZY SHIT.