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At this point, they shouldn’t even bother. They have explicitly, by name, told fans they can’t air S2. Not a vague “CR won’t work with us” type statement where people have to infer, a straight up “we can’t get Demon Slayer S2 because of Sony”. That has no doubt pushed many fans to go watch it on their own. They would be blowing a massive wad of their yearly budget on a show they unintentionally sabotaged.

I think that one has aired a couple times in the past as well.

Part 5 starting it’s run at 2:30a was likely a response to what happened with part 4. Part 4 never actually aired in the deathslot, they shifted the schedule around only a few days after announcing it because so many people complained. Then that effort was rewarded continued ratings issues the rest of its run. If I remember right, this was the same schedule that had initially given Black Clover a well earned promotion in the schedule, then quickly took it away. Then Clover ended up being one of the shows doing better than Jojo despite airing later.

Not really anything comes to mind. But that’s part of my point, they are gonna have to roll the dice on MAKING something popular (among the Toonami crowd at least) unless they want to keep up this cycle of landing one decent show then having 6 months of drought afterwards. And yea, Gundam has had its problems in the past, but Witch from Mercury has lesbians. It’s not your standard boring political drama sausage fest most of them end up being. Like I said, we aren’t looking for a massive boost in viewership. That’s not gonna happen. What we want to see is a consistent turnout each week and no massive dives in viewers. Like what we see with Yashahime most weeks. Our audience clearly does not want to watch that, and they just don’t come back for the stuff after it. If S1 of a show flops, stop getting S2. This method comes with two issues. For starters, they do in fact still take requests. I believe Demarco shared the most recent top requested shows a few months ago. So they haven’t completely shunned fan input. Problem number one is the shows people request are gonna be pretty obvious. It’s always going to be the hot seasonal shows. Which is fine, but if the top 5 requests are all shows Toonami can’t access, what good is that information? The second issue, and this is one we have seen in the past, shows people think belong on Toonami are often shows people won’t actually tune in for, for various reasons. They already watched it (which is why they suggested it), they don’t like dubs, the blocks on too late, the OPs are cut, and on and on. Probably the biggest example of this was Jojo. Easily the blocks top request for many years, only to do downright terrible across 5 seasons. Remember that time they rightfully death slotted part 4 of Jojo for its subpar ratings, only to actually go back and change the schedule because so many people complained on Facebook? And then after all that, Jojo continued to lose to the shows airing after it nearly every week? Too many popular shows have a fanbase who think their favorite show is entitled to top billing, but won’t actually tune in and support it.

Between today and Dec 31st, Bobs will be leaving. I’d assume once it does, Futurama will become a cornerstone of primetime again. I don’t think there will be a smooth way to repurpose the Kothbobfutdad ad though

Well, MHA is about as casual normie tier as anime offers currently and it seems to be doing its job as intended. Problem is, those wide appeal normie shows are the ones everyone wants to fight over, and Toonami hasn’t been in the weight class for this fight in a long time. The way I see it, there are two paths they can take. The first is the current one, where they continue chasing the latest fad in what will usually be a futile attempt at picking it up. This means long stretches of the block covered by reruns and double ups, and the occasional beacon of good fortune when they get something like MHA. Or their second option, air shows that are still good, but never rocketed into the normiesphere. That means more calls to Viz and Sentai, and hopefully with less competition, less dead stretches on the block. Right now they have two open slots rapidly closing in. We have been here long enough we know what’s in their crosshairs, Bleach, Chainsaw Man, and Witch from Mercury. The question is, can they make the shot? Or are Toonami fans going hungry once again? We will find out in a few weeks.

Best news here is it seems the MHA numbers from the 17th were hopefully just an end of the year hiccup and not the norm. Let’s hope Demarco has two winners lined up to take over for MiA and Yashahime, it would be a major help if we could eliminate those huge dives in viewership in the first 90 mins.

We aren’t though. We are passed the point where good shows would substantially IMPROVE viewership, but we aren’t passed the point where good shows can help maintain the 250k or so people that are left. Trying to lure new eyes to Toonami is a fools errand. Maybe they hook a few when they run a promo on AEW or something, but not enough to shift the needle. If you are still tuning into this block in 2023, it’s because you are a bigtime fan and don’t care that the shows it offers can be streamed. You WANT to watch these shows in the inferior way, because you want to watch Toonami. The question to ask isn’t how we get more people watching Toonami. It’s how do we keep the current audience tuning in.

I think this is something everyone is thinking about too hard. I guarantee you, exactly zero people tuned into Toonami last week thinking “boy I can’t wait to see fanart!” It was a nice bonus, but it’s not the kind of thing drawing new eyes to the block. There are only 2 things they can do that will fundamentally improve viewership, packaging and show choice. As we saw last year, packaging was another thing they struggled with and blamed on staff issues. With that in mind, I don’t really know why they thought an extra layer of work with the fanart thing was a good idea when they couldn’t even update bumpers a single time across the span of about 10 months. For the nostalgia based watcher, the packaging is everything. So if that never changes, it defeats the purpose of tuning in. And the second factor is the most obvious one, their programming choices. Thanks to Naruto and One Piece, they only have 4 slots to play with, which doesn’t give them a lot of room for mistakes. It’s pretty simple, if they want better viewer engagement, they need to air things people actually want to watch. MHA has been a pretty healthy boost for the lead slot, so there is a clear science that picking the right shows pumps the numbers up. Nothing else is going to make a difference. They could be giving out handjobs every Saturday and it’s still not going to get people to tune in if the lineup is weak.

Episode 1, 6, 11, and 12 are unfiltered kino. The rest vary from good to nearly unwatchable. If the block actually picked the show id be ecstatic and tune in for every episode just to have seen them on TV, but I just feel like I see a lot of “Toonami would be saved if they just aired PSG!” while in reality it would probably do subpar at best. As for the “mature” content, it doesn’t show anything that the likes of Mr Pickles or Incest and Morty hasnt. A couple year back Demarco aired a music video that was literally nothing but a sperm traveling through vagina tubes. As long as it’s not headlining the block it would be fine. It doesn’t really matter though as already stated. Whatever the reason was, they blew their chance at having S1 at the peak of its relevance, and by way of that blown their in for S2.

AS S&P has evolved quite a bit since 2012. Back then, “shit” was a firm no every time. Now it’s fair game and used frequently in newer AS shows. PSG has quite a few “fucks” but I believe someone did a count once, and it’s a few less than Black Lagoon. As for the shows visuals, I don’t think anything crosses lines that AS originals haven’t already. It would definitely require some labor, but I do think it could cross the S&P hurdle. Barely. Where I think it would struggle most is it being a product of its time. Having a new season helps with this issue a lot, but S1 really reeks of 2010 in most of its episodes. How the current audience would take to that is anyone’s guess, but I just think it’s worth considering the reality that it’s not new anymore.

It’s he said/she said at this point. As far as I know, the tumblr page doesn’t go back that far, so unless someone out there has some ancient screenshots on their PC, there’s no real way to prove it. On Demarco’s end, he COULD have hated it back in 2012, and at some point changed his tune and is now trying to spin that he always liked it. There’s just no way to know the truth. What we DO know is Funimation was pushing hard for Toonami to pick the show up and they never did. Passing up a relatively new dub back when their prospects for content were slim is suspect if nothing else.

Here’s the best part, once season 2 was announced, Demarco completely flipped and started to act like he is a huge fan of the series. I believe at one point he even tried taking credit for attempts to get a second season made. In regards to airing it, he waved it off as impossible now, though this was before MHA showed up. In 2012, Funimation was directly asking Toonami fans on their Facebook page to submit requests for PSG to air on the block. I believe the dub was only a few months old at that point, so that would have been a major grab for Toonami back then when we were limited to very old table scraps. The fans were on board, Funimation was on board, the only thing that stopped it was Demarco.

Personally, I wouldn’t care at all if not for the hypocrisy. I’m not into the fat stuff at all, but I still got a hearty laugh at seeing it on TV. Same applies for Luffy’s ass. But when it comes to our actual show choices, they won’t touch anything with even slight fanservice tones with a 10 foot pole. They weren’t always like this, we did land KLK, but IMO if that came out today it wouldn’t even be considered. Even back then, a juicy deal from a much more cooperative Aniplex was likely a big factor in its making the block. This is also the same guy (despite his recent comments suggesting otherwise) that got aggressive towards anyone who suggested Panty and Stocking and Fairy Tail back in 2012. Things people a ton of people were asking for shot down because boobs and sex bad. I have grown tired of the implication that this is somehow the fans fault. It’s like back in 2014 when movie month got cancelled because they aired a bunch of reruns. Demarco shifted all the blame to the fans for not watching, rather than the actual issue of him trying to recycle the exact same movies from 2013. They are the ones who wanted to feature fanart. That means the ball was in their court to verify all pieces that came through. Don’t have the staff? That’s not our problem. You shouldn’t have even started the project if you knew you didn’t have the manpower for it. Expecting the honor system to work, especially at Adult Swim which has frequently encouraged shitpost tier submissions for projects, was nothing short of naive and moronic. This is Demarco’s L, not ours.

“I’m not kink shamer” Also Demarco - “that scene in episode 16 of KLK is gross, you shouldn’t care that we butchered it with censorship” Look man, it’s cool that you are into the fat stuff, but your damage control is just progressively more and more unbelievable.

You gotta admit though, TOM is looking PEAK comfy right there.

To the majority of people, anal vore refers to a meme template of your character of choice dabbing while the character you don’t like is implied to be sucked into their anus. I didn’t mean for you to actually jump down the rabbit hole. Or I guess in this case, butthole. The Nami image is fat fetish. She is depicted as having all the rolls needed to be that large. Inflation would be like what happens to the girl in Willy Wonka where she just becomes a comical round shape as if inflated like a balloon.

Demarco says they lost the faith of the legal team. Demarco is also making it VERY difficult to not assume he is the one with the fat fetish. I have also been told there is someone who goes by the name “Clarknova” on a dedicated inflation art website.

After last night, I saw a lot of discussion of people planning to dig up niche, fetish fanart and submit it in hopes of getting more extreme content on the air. If you dig deep enough, you can find plenty of content that’s not going to pop up in your standard quick search. Even if they did keep it going, they would probably cancel regardless after being flooded a bunch of fart and anal vore submissions.

He has always been like this. When something goes wrong, it’s anyone’s fault but his own. Admittedly, this one probably isn’t on him personally, as I assume some cheeky intern was in charge of this project, but still, he is shifting the blame to the fans rather than just taking responsibility for a mistake on their end.

Hilarious to me that Demarco freaks out at the slightest hints of fanservice, but fat fetish art is “I don’t care” to him. Ignoring the stolen art part, I feel like this art choice was on purpose as it gets people talking. Just like Luffy’s big fat ass did last time they did this. They were using the ol any discussion is good discussion angle to try to increase audience engagement. Backfired though

Lol remember that time AS ran a bumper about KLK and used uncredited fanart? An honest mistake I’m sure, but entirely their fault. They have a history of half assing the vetting process, but rather than take responsibility they would rather shift all the blame to the fans. Oh well, this is probably for the best. If we were on #2 and already airing fat fetish art, I don’t even want to think what was gonna slip by next time. No doubt seeing that on cable was going to be a greenlight for all types of degenerates to submit fetish art.

About 3/4 through the ED, it goes completely silent for about a second. Does this happen for anyone else? I waved it off as my cable glitching at first, but it happens weekly in the same spot. Is it just me?

It’s already visible on most guides. It’s extremely unlikely they will bother with an official announcement to what is essentially no change.