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That is a bit of unexpected fortune on our part. As cool as simuldubs are, they really just have not recovered from Covid. And honestly, I think that’s kind of a relief to the dubbing staff. At one point in 2019 we were 1 week behind Fire Force. Having to get an episode, do the script, get everyone in the booth, mix it, etc in less than a week for a huge slate of shows sounds like suffering and chaos for everyone involved. Also with the decrease in simuldubs, it has felt like other legacy projects have gotten more attention. For example, One Piece had its dub moving at a snails pace for like 5 years. Then around 2021 they really got it in gear, and in 2022 they cranked out like 100 episodes. I don’t mind waiting a little longer for brand new shows if it means everyone isn’t so overworked that nothing else gets done. I don’t blame them, in previous years once stall mode starts, things don’t really go back to normal. We have an occasional spurt of something here and there but most of the time is spent jumping between stall tactics. In 2021 it started in October. In 2022 it started in May. In 2023 it started in February, so people are right to be concerned. To me, the most annoying part here is this was likely their only chance this year the surprise the audience because nobody had a clue what might be coming in. Now that things have changed, FLCL is a strong contender for one of the slots. And in not wanting to steal its thunder, probably is joining the block solo. So the people asking if the block is even capable of getting anything are just more to fuel the belief that it cannot. So if we get FLCL in March, that will likely be replaced by AoT. So in the summer months they may have one more chance to do something unexpected between MHA and AoT. Maybe sooner if AoT is as short as people say.
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I think his point was they could have went about it a different way which would have generated them extra time. They could have kept this week normal, cut Yashahime next week for the hour finale of MiA, then brought back the Yashahime finale and an extra OP on the 18th. Not as much time, but if they were in a temporary stall mindset they are taking things a week at a time anyway. Instead, they took the path forward that cleaned off the schedule efficiently and as early as possible. That certainly felt like to me, they had a pretty good grasp on what they planned to air on the 18th. Obviously that’s not the case, so one or more deals likely went down the tubes in the past two weeks.
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Even Demarco made that statement in a speculative tone. He never said there was a deal or that the relationship changed. He just said that he hoped getting MHA would open more doors with CR. We also should consider that their standing with CR could improve, but not in a way we theorize. For example, CR may allow the block access to shows that aired prior seasons on Toonami, but tell them to kick rocks for anything else. Whatever the case, we just don’t have enough info to go on to say either way. Myself, as well as a few others did caution to not take MHA as a sign CR was going to start full cooperation with Toonami, and it seems that was the correct mindset to take. By the way Demarco was talking about it, it does seem like they tried lining up Witch from Mercury to be one of the new shows on the 18th, possibly even a dub premier. But either Toonami didnt have the budget for it, or CR just wouldn’t let them have it. The problem being, they didn’t have a fallback plan in the event they couldn’t secure it. So now we are in stall mode and just have to hope they can secure something else in the span of the next month. Ideally, the new schedule is posted on or before the 18th. That’s the two week cutoff. But, there is no reason they couldn’t take things up to the first day or two of March. That would mean almost zero promotion for what gets added, but that hasn’t stopped them before. If the new FLCL ends up being an accurate guess, we will probably know sooner rather than later.
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I figure they can just make up a reason too. Promote all this stuff airing on Amazon now or wherever the hell it’s getting shipped off to now. Neither of them really synergize with each other outside of being DC, but that’s no reason they can’t promote Shazam. I mean, last night they used random comedy pilot shorts to promote Knock on the Door, this would at least be more fitting.
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It may not be obvious now, but I do feel like TOM will tie this into some event at the start of the night on these two weeks. Hard to believe DC just decided to play ball after years of not doing so.
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So Rubicon isn’t even a premier apparently, this schedule looks a lot more sucky stallish now. And I feel the need to reiterate this every time it happens, I am so tired of those R&M shorts being listed as part of the block when they never are. Idk why they are so obsessed with tacking those onto the schedule every time.
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I did not. However, technically these are not proper replacements, and more just one night covers, so the question of what replaces Yashahime and MiA still stands. With this new information in mind, I’m ready to revise my speculation. I now believe that FLCL Grunge is a strong possibility in March. Maki was tweeting about it a few days ago, but they didn’t come off as “2 more weeks” types of tweets. They do however, feel like a month from now tweets. I recall other discussion that the dubbing process was under way. So I’m gonna say Grunge at 12:30 in March. Prior FLCL seasons did not lead the block, and given the rocky road the other originals had, I’m gonna say they keep MHA at midnight just to give the block a fighting chance. As for the other slot, given the fact that they are stalling as early as February, I’m gonna stand by them having nothing else and it just going back to One Piece.
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You beat me by a minute. Anyway, not really sure how to feel about this. I don’t think this is a panic stalling technique, as Demarco did seem to have some stuff on deck to announce which was probably this. But, it’s still a form of stalling and makes me worry about their prospects for the normal schedule. This means we have to wait another damn month to know what is joining the regular lineup which is the most frustrating part of this.
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I highly doubt a dead of Saturday night run of 10+ year old episodes of One Piece will have any effect at all on the audience for the Netflix adaptation. I figure there are two audience brackets for the Netflix version. 1. People with very little knowledge of the source material. These are the people they will loop in with advertising. And almost all people in this group probably don’t even know Toonami exists. I’d also say most people in this category don’t even have cable. 2. People well versed in the source material who are going to hate watch. People in this category are either keeping up with the subbed release of the anime, or are keeping up with the manga release. Maybe some of them watch Toonami for the novelty, but Toonami isn’t selling them anything they aren’t already well versed in. I have no clue what caused them to cut OP down to one episode. Perhaps it was never the plan to leave it doubled up and they simply didn’t have enough episodes last year to keep that up. Or maybe the speculation that Toei just wanted it on the block to promote Film Red held some truth. Maybe Toei doesn’t think Toonami is doing enough for it to succeed. Whatever the case, one of the last reasons I could see it leaving is due to the Netflix adaptation. It’s a total non factor for that project.
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I can’t even make a guess honestly. A week ago, I probably would have put my chips on Witch from Mercury, but as we know now, that’s not gonna happen. I will bet that at best, we are only getting one new show. The other slot will be given back to One Piece. Just to leave a shot in the dark here, Dragon Quest The Adventures of Dai. That seems like something that would pull Demarco’s attention.
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Wow that’s a solid night. When was the last time we saw 0.10 way down at One Piece? A weird thing that seems to happen a lot, a show can be an absolute blight on viewership it’s entire run, then the few weeks leading up to it leaving, it does solid. We never saw such tight retention from Yashahime any other time. Now the question is, can Demarco keep this momentum going with some decent replacements?
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King of the Hill to join Futurama on Hulu for a new revival
Toonamiguy321 replied to Jman's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Is no show allowed to just rest in peace? This would make the most sense. Lucky was not a well liked character, so it means little if he doesn’t appear. They can have Peggy open a holiday card or something from Lucky and Luanne who got a house across the country after Lucky got more peepee money. -
Vic would probably still be voicing anime if he did hire a circus clown to be his lawyer. Shit, he may have actually faired better with a circus clown, or a monkey, or a brick he found on a stroll. Is it? Vic never had any charges against him. His entire situation was he said/she said. Many of the stories that came out against him were walked back or admitted to being exaggerated. Vic was the fujo dream of the 00s. It’s very believable that some clout chasing girls of the time spread rumors that stuck about their exploits with Edward Elric. The only thing believable that came out about him was he doesn’t understand appropriate personal space. Unlike Roiland who has felony charges hanging over his head which are quite obviously the reason he is out on his ass, Vic was a very clearly dog piled by people within his own industry that wanted him gone for their own ends. The fact that Todd Haberkorn remains employed despite similar allegations only further supports this.
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I don’t think the nature of the charges are the issue. It’s the fact that they are very public and on everyone’s headlines. They had no issue with him being a creep at the office because that was a mostly private matter they could keep a lid on. Now that he has something major public, they don’t really have a choice but to cut him lose to try to save face. Imagine you are the head of advertising for Wendy’s. Are you going to keep up your expensive deal with that show that has the guy with felony domestic charges working on it? Probably not. That’s the kind of thing Adult Swim is trying to salvage here. They didn’t fire him because it was the right thing to do, they fired him because he was becoming a greater liability than he was worth financially.
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Given his connections at Sunrise, I’m surprised Demarco wasn’t able to seal the deal on this. The timing is perfect for it to have started on 2/18. Best case scenario is they blew their wad on something of greater significance, and Gundams rough history on the block made it second choice.
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Mike served his time. He was convicted in 1992. He got his show in 2015. Plenty of time had passed for people to let that go. I don’t think Roiland should be barred from the industry forever. If he is still relevant in 23 years, then go ahead and give him a show. Of course, assuming he stays out of trouble in that time. This would be a really dangerous gamble for AS. Let’s say they let the trial play out and he is guilty. AS will get torched for not throwing him out months/years prior when the charges first dropped, especially with the supplemental information coming out. There is too much bad press swirling around Roiland to keep him around. Their number one priority is going to be attempting to salvage R&M as best they can. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, AS set the bar really low for themselves with Unknown Hinson. That’s just even more fuel to the fire, you will boot someone for mean tweets, but not for felony charges? Action was not optional for them here, Roiland had to go. If he gets off, they will cross that bridge when they come to it.
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You may be thinking of live action One Piece which is supposed to have notable input from Oda. Bebop is often cited in discussions about it for NOT having any input from Watanabe. The hope being, with gentle guiding from Oda, live action One Piece will at least not be an insult to the source material as Bebop was.
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Skimmed every VA with Sebastian in their name and he is the only one that is active with anything. All Marvel stuff though. Unless there is some newcomer isn’t listed outside of credit reels yet. That seems like a pretty big dollar expense though. If that does end up being the case, hopefully they aren’t trying for a Gen:lock angle where they attempt to cover up a terrible project with celebrity names.
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Strange to call it a secret project it’s no secret they are working on it. And yea, those shoes make it obvious. At the absolute latest they would have to have it announced by next Friday. And I highly doubt something in the “coming soon” vague twitter teaser stage is gonna make that window. So, I’m at a total loss at this point for what could be coming. More and more, I’m feeling like double One Piece is one of the things we are getting. Two curveball pickups is just unimaginable to me at this stage.
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Perhaps I should rephrase. Considering his success at hitting on teenagers despite his doughy, babyface appearance, I’m gonna guess his financial windfall from Rick and Morty is pretty healthy. If he was just your run of the mill creep with no looks or money to lean on, he wouldn’t have gotten away with this as long as he did.
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Aqua Teen is back for a new season of 5 episodes
Toonamiguy321 replied to Jman's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I’ll enjoy them if they are good. Late stage ATHF was suffering bad. Hopefully such a long break and short episode count will help it actually be decent. My main point was this won’t keep their lights on. While I wouldn’t mind a return to their roots, it’s hard to convince executives of that. They are going to want to see R&M numbers ASAP.