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I’ll enjoy them if they are good. Late stage ATHF was suffering bad. Hopefully such a long break and short episode count will help it actually be decent. My main point was this won’t keep their lights on. While I wouldn’t mind a return to their roots, it’s hard to convince executives of that. They are going to want to see R&M numbers ASAP.

I think we had a few warning signs before that. Probably the biggest was CR blocking Mob Psycho S2. A popular title, but not that popular, so why couldn’t the block have it? I believe that was our first warning sign that Crunchyroll was going to block EVERY show they own. Next major red flag was during Covid. 2020 started out with Toonami cutting a lot of slots, which they later tried to blame entirely on Covid despite most cuts happening prior to the lockdowns. Then we are mid lockdown and all our planned dub premiers go out the window. Toonami wasn’t able to tap anyone at all for cheap content to fill the time. Not a single ally in the industry came to our aid. We finally got half of AssClass, which between the long wait and the fact S2 took a year and a half to show up, was likely a full price pickup. That was when it was made very clear Toonami was no longer a player in the market at all. As for Demon Slayer, I believe that is something even peak era Toonami may have struggled with after the films blowout success. The fact that the block still can’t get it long after it’s relevance is telling, but I think even in the best times the block still would have had to have waited a year or so to air S2.

Wow they didn’t waste any time hitting the panic button. Sorry AS, those three may be the most iconic faces AS has ever had, but 5 episodes of them is not going to motivate people to regularly tune in to AS.

Difference is Ren and Stimpy was for children and that was in the 90s. A lot of kids probably didn’t even notice the change, and without social media the news of his removal from the project would have likely only found adult eyes. This is a prominent adult oriented cartoon, even if AS didnt say a word, people would immediately notice Rick sounds funny and Roilands name isn’t in the title credits. We are well beyond the point where a change like this can happen and just blow over. As for replacements, their backlog options are limited. ATHF had major seasonal rot in its later seasons. Not every episode was bad, but it was too the point more episode per season were bad or forgettable. A big reason Mike Tyson Mysteries was cancelled was because Mike Tyson was losing interest in the project. I highly doubt he would want to get saddled with another show. Tuca and Bertie was cancelled due to middling performance, the Haddish controversy never picked up any steam after breaking. I doubt it’s creator would even want to come back after being swiftly cancelled. AS burned quite a few bridges thinking that King Roiland would keep the lights on by himself and now they are gonna have to face the music of that choice. Lucky for them, they have Cusack, so they have at least one popular up and comer to make stuff for them. Can you imagine if we go through this entire song and dance and all charges get dropped? R&M fans will demand he be reinstated to the show, but all the power will be in Roilands court. He will be able to ask for the world and a little more for him to return to R&M and AS will most likely have to give it to him to preserve their top show. Im no legal expert so I don’t know how, but I do believe AS has a window to information we do not and used that to make their determination. Remember, they didn’t say a word on this topic for over a week, that’s probably the time they were getting the facts.

The fact that charges have been filed means its beyond just a he said she said. Someone had some meat to put on the table to get charges filed. I imagine adult swims legal team was able to negotiate their way into some details of the case to make a determination of how bad things are. I highly doubt they just threw out their bread and butter on a whim. They know something we don’t, and like what they know is Roiland is boned. Even if they didn’t, they tossed out Unknown Hinson for a handful of tweets that were against the current approved narrative. They don’t need an actual legally based reason to toss someone out. Right now, Roiland is bad for the brand, and they will be lucky to salvage any of their advertising contracts without him, it would have been impossible with him.

I can’t believe they actually followed through and did it. Even though pressure was probably mounting daily, I put a little respect on their name for following through despite this crippling their cash cow. Would be comedy gold if they cast Tracey Morgan. Just send Rick and Morty to the Tracey Morgan dimension that warps their voice just by being in proximity. Kinda like what was implied would happen on the cob planet

I agree about Bleach. They gotta think a little different than they used to and spread out the shows they can get that can handle the lead slot. If they pick it up to replace MHA, they should be able to smoothly transition to the second season in the fall, that deals with the lead slot question until next year. The originals may temporarily grab the lead, or they may reassess a 12:30 run for them. Either way, that would only be a brief moment for Bleach outside of midnight if they opt for original leads. I also agree about spreading out the originals. That’s their only consistent marketing point anymore, so they need to always be able to tag one in every few months. FLCL in Feb, FLCL in the summer, and Uzumaki in October makes sense. That said, I believe the window on Grunge in February gets narrower by the day that it’s not announced. Perhaps now that Yolo is no longer their main new project they are promoting, they can starting running Grunge promos leading up to its premier. If we get to the end of this week without a Grunge reveal, I’m gonna think it may need a little more time in the oven. Ever since it was announced, I have seen a lot of people say Urusei Yatsura would be in their crosshairs. I can’t say I understand the sentiment. It’s not action as far as I know, and it’s not something ASA used to run. The only factor I see in it’s favor is it’s a Rumiko title. Is that it, or is there more to why so many people think it’s Toonami bound? I’m not against it, though I can’t say I’m enthusiastic about another Rumiko title after Yashahime, but I just don’t get why it’s expected.

Personally I hadn’t entirely written off the chances for Witch from Mercury. Yes, it currently does not have a dub announced, however many times in the past a show has had its dub reveal coupled with a Toonami reveal. Unfortunately, that may be something that’s left entirely in the past though. The way Demarco was talking about it, it seems like it may not be accessible to them at all, so there may be even more issues with it that we don’t know about. As long as we are actually getting new content, I kind of look forward to seeing some pickups most of the fanbase didnt predict from a mile away. I did notice one strange thing while scrolling, quite a few people asked various questions about Bleach. Ranging from its potential for Toonami to just his opinion on it so far. He ignored them all. Read into that how you will.

Demarco did an AMA tonight, hopefully this is a good sign. Of shows I saw specifically mentioned Witch from Mercury - “not in the cards” Demon Slayer S2 - still not happening Jujutsu Kaisen - Asked about it, don’t know if they can get it Trigun Stampede - Want it, don’t know if they can get it Not a show, but currently no plans to move the block earlier than midnight. A lot of really predictable stuff there knocked off the list, at least for this schedule rotation. We might actually have a couple of curveballs coming.

After bitching and whining they couldnt find the time in 10 months to update bumpers, it seems they have updated all the bumpers again after only about 2 months of usage. On one hand, great! More updates is a good thing. On the other hand, it’s pretty concerning they are doing this now for MiA and Yashahime, rather than waiting 3 weeks to refresh the entire block, as those two shows should only use their bumpers for 3 more weeks before never being seen again.

Demarco said if the choice is up to him, One Piece will never leave the block. So unless Zaslav is saying they needed to get rid of that pirate shit after two fan art debacles involving its characters, it’s not going anywhere. I am still highly skeptical about us actually getting two new shows on the same night, so it wouldn’t shock me to see the return of the One Piece hour to cover one of those empty slots. If the reason they cut it down last year was running out of episodes, then they should have bought the 2023 batch by now and can put it back to double speed for the rest of the year. Is Moose that dude from back on the AS forum who would pivot immediately to death threats if you are even so much as suggested One Piece was underperforming on the block?

Not how I expected them to handle these two ending, but they have set it up so two slots are clear on 2/18. Good sign?

Lol I’m far away from a hardcore R&M fan. I watch it to keep up, nothing more. I even clearly state he likely did do what the charges accuse him of. And your take is so hilariously un-self aware. “Hey look that guy is gonna be busy in court so I won’t get sued when I post this made up monkey shit!” And regardless of that, let’s not sit here and pretend like any women who make shit up ever see any consequences ever. This is the hot new trend. Fabricate or exaggerate. Try to hop on the bandwagon to get a little money or attention.

Here’s some discussion regarding the speculation that it’s just two extra length episodes. https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/10e7lz8/comment/j4pikkf/

I think Fire Force is a bit too “anime” for a run outside of Toonami. Tamaki flying out of her clothes isn’t something you can sell to the Fox comedy crowd. Plus, S3 hasn’t even been announced yet, it’s a bit presumptuous to assume Toonami is going to get it when we don’t even have an ETA for Japan.

Been reading through some discussion about the news, it seems between some keyframe leaks and better translation, this may not be a proper anime season, and rather two separate extra length special episodes to conclude the series. Which if you think about it, makes a lot more sense than two full length seasons. There are only 8 chapters that have not been adapted, and even with the old rumors of the anime giving us an ending that doesn’t suck, that’s still far away from filling 24 episodes. So, if that is the case, that completely changes how Toonami has to approach these. Rather than looking for a home on the normal schedule, we may be looking at two nights in 2023 that are preempted by a long AoT episode. Maybe we don’t even get them at all depending on how their contracted is worded.

I see zero reason to even consider this. AoT is not socially relevant enough anymore to warrant 11:30. MHA barely is. The blocks recent numbers have not made a strong case it can handle 11:30 either. They have a perfectly good timeslot they aren’t using, and Naruto has spent a long portion of its run at 2:30a anyway so that’s not a punishment for it. Especially with a 23 week filler stretch starting soon. Not to mention the turmoil this change would cause down the line. Ok, they get 11:30 to fit in AoT. What about when it ends? You know damn well they aren’t going to support another rotating slot, so we would just get cut back to midnight again and make everyone sweat about what cut is next.

Man this whole last season but it’s split into 3 parts but the last part is also split into multiple parts is getting old. Let’s hope this is actually the last stretch. Anyway, giving Crunchyroll roughly 3 weeks to start the dub, would put this into April, or possibly even late March if they start sooner. We have two slots open in February, and one open in late June. Neither of which are going to work out for us. So there are two ways I see this going. 1. When it’s ready to air, Primal gets the boot, the shonen hour moves down and they slot AoT likely as the second show 2. One of the show replacements in February is a FLCL Prog/Alt rerun, which would leave a slot free roughly the week AoT needs to start. If they are off, OP or Naruto can tag in to cover the time Lets all pray it’s #1

This is where I pump the brakes. The felony charges are real, and we will see what comes of them at trial. But every single time a prominent person catches some charges, there is always a stream of people who go “uhhhh actually he did that to me too I suddenly remember now that I see charges have been filed!” More often than not, these tales are either grossly exaggerated or entirely fabricated. Do I believe Roiland is the type of person where these could be true? Absolutely. But I also believe there is always a stream of nobodies who think they can ride the felony charge coattails into a few minutes of notoriety. I have been hearing since R&M started that Roiland and Harmon are creeps. If anything was bad enough, you would have come forward BEFORE someone else got charges to stick. Not to mention, it will be a cold day in hell before I believe “themarysue.com” engages in fair, unbiased reporting

From a quality standpoint, you are correct. AS has been in zombie mode for quite a few years now,. As we saw in 2021 during that brief period when FG left and before KotH and Futurama came back, they struggled to keep the ship afloat. Without a steady stream of Fox content, AS would be dead already. From a business angle though, letting it die isn’t a good idea. Something has to air during those hours, and it’s not like CN is in any better shape. Having a subpar block that has one heavy hitter is way better than trying to kickstart something new in 2023. So I agree, AS isn’t going anywhere. But they are also going to try everything to keep R&M going. It’s a nice bonus for AS to make a little money rather than just be 10 hours of late night time filler.

Primal is done. Genndy did say something about making an anthology but I find it extremely unlikely such an expensive project with middling ratings is getting another season in the Zaslav era. Smiling Friends is certainly popular by word of mouth, but it’s actual ratings were pretty subpar. Comparing Nielson to Nielson, Smiling Friends on the high end did around 250k. Rick and Morty on the low end this year was around 600k. If they lose that powerhouse, none of these other small fries could keep things going.

It was, at a time. That time has long since passed. If TOM was arrested for beating Sara and they cancelled Toonami before next Saturday, nothing would change at adult swim. They would need to paste over 2 1/2 hours of programming on one day. Easy. Anime fans would whine, nobody else would care. They would save a bunch of money on license fees. It would probably end up being a net gain. You could argue the entire reason AS hasn’t been shut down is purely so Rick and Morty has somewhere to premier once a year. It very quickly eclipsed everything else. American Dad? That would hurt just because it’s their last noteworthy Seth show they use to inflate ratings. Yolo? Haha.

That just goes to show how bad things are for AS. R&M has slipped hard, yet it’s still miles ahead of anything else in relevance and success. Ending R&M is equivalent to ending Adult Swim.

Oof, had to go all the way back to season 3 to find a noteworthy success to talk about. They are felony charges, but none of the details are public yet. I’m sure once Jane Doe gets a 7 figure check in her hand, she will remember some facts about the charges a little differently. We will learn what really happened were just a couple minor misdemeanor things that Roiland can shake off with an apology. False imprisonment? The lock on their house is faulty and doesn’t open unless you jiggle it a little which she forgot at the time. Weapon? She was hysteric and the tears clouded her vision.

Those are infrequent occurrences. Any week they don’t have those or a new show they will have a major drought. Facebook IS social media, just a somewhat outdated option. No idea why Toonami never tried to kick off a twitter account. But, even as out of date as their Facebook page is, it still has roughly 725k followers which is nothing to shake a stick at. It’s pretty much their only means of official fan communication.