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One things to keep in mind is that this year could be considered more profitable due to the fact that they didn’t need to stack the Saturday lineup with FOX shows. The numbers are lower without a doubt but it’s a lot less expensive to air Rick and Morty than Dad, Bobs, etc.. Depending on whatever deal they have with Super, those encore airings may even be free/cheap to air. It’s very possible that this is considered a good result for not having to spend as much on Saturday. We’ve had largely the same lineup since July and I figured if something needed to change, it would’ve by now.

That’s because as the night goes on, you are left with viewers that usually stick it out the whole night.

You mean this one: https://www.ispot.tv/ad/AQlD/national-debt-relief-credit-card-debt That credit card debt is no joke! Last year they did it during the first hour of Children who Chase lost Voices which aired in the 3am (actually 2am hour). So it was the same as last year.

Nothing for Bebop or Ghost yet. I did notice that was the “no real commercial” hour for DST. All the aired was quick infomercials for that special pillow, a contact lense company (they aired it twice in a row) and some Psa about getting the right contractor after Hurricane damage ! Pretty surreal

Do you guys think it matters ratings wise if Toonami picks up something thats dub has already been streamed? I've always been of the mindset that Toonami should stick to things that they can actually premiere and if the dub gets streamed somewhere to just forget about that show and get something else.

I'm hoping *something* emerges in the next year or two that can act as the next anchor of the block. Before DB, we had Bleach, and before that we had Inuyasha/FMA. If nothing new fits the bill, we probably will get Boruto at first replacing DBZKAI, then eventually moving up after Super ends.

Yeah there’s a new rule that says you can only talk about information on the official schedule. I think the mods got tired of a new “Hey there’s a new blank spot on the schedule” thread every few weeks. They especially don’t want us talking about anything in the “Better” unofficial schedule that’s linked here.

Im actually surprised because I figure they’d want as much eyes in the finale of Countdown as possible considering it probably means changes to the block. Maybe last years results weren’t great. Glad there’s a place to discuss this. They banned talk of the backdoor schedule on Reddit .

You’re D Aaron? Wow I’ve talked to you on Twitter before and here and not even realize it’s the same guy! Imagine that! Congratulations!

I’m hoping that those numbers are a reflection of the television universe because Toonami does get a bit of a rise because of it. It makes me a little more understanding as to why AS isn’t stressing about those numbers. Great week overall! I think the main issue with the block going foward will be securing programming for the block!

Oh if you go tonight page 32, they have the estimate numbers by age. The rest of it is extra data for advertisers. Using these numbers yields slightly higher demo numbers.

https://s1.q4cdn.com/199638165/files/doc_presentations/2017/02/total-audience-report-q4-2016.pdf Alchemist, I found this brochure from Nielsen which has the audience estimates as of the end of last year. You have to add some of the demos but it is the most current info I can find in doing 18-49 and 18-34

I think that will continue to become an issue. Eventually, people that have a connection to the original block will either age out of the demo or begin to get more responsibilities that preclude them from staying up all night on Saturday. After all, people with early schedules have a hard time breaking them for one night! If more of the regulars drop off without new blood coming in to replace them, that will complicate things somewhat.

To be honest, I’m still putting most of the blame on prime time and how Super is set up. We never really got to see how a real Super premiere would do following Family Guy. The rest of the lineup drops somewhat normally based on past numbers (I’ve been calculating different ones and you’ll always drop a lot following DBZ, Kill la Kill would shed 300-400 k from Kai regularly) It’s just that Super should have taken things to another level and this stupid deal with TOEI and the weak prime time lineup is ruining where Toonami starts the night. We don’t have to have arguments about it. Everyone can have their take on the situation without it having to turn ugly, it’s not that big of a deal! ?

I can’t imagine this continuing like this for much longer without some intervention. They have to stop the bleeding.

These retention rates are terrible. I’m pretty sure the network can’t be too happy with this if it becomes a trend. I’m actually really curious what they’ll do. The Super deal continues to bite them in the ass. How did they manage to ditch it for that one week only to immediately have it return? I’m certain the budget is depleted for the rest of the year so there’s not much they can do with this lineup other than maybe move HxH and Shippuden up where Jojo and Gundam are, but I don’t know if that would yield better results. Either way, the network has to figure this out. 8:30 Super also has a huge advanrage because that’s what the DVRS record and there’s more time to watch it before the cut off time. The rest of the block doesn’t have that much time. The 11:00 Super won’t get much DVR views because you have to manually pick it (every week I have to cancel 8:30 and pick 11:00)

They probably got the anime as well (MP100)

No that summed it up quite nicely. I was just joking with you to be honest,but I can see how entertainment is evolving. Look at “Stranger Things”, which became a huge hit without ever airing on TV. I constantly hear anime fans in bookstores and places where merchandise is sold talking about what shows they are watching and never once do I hear “Toonami”. But Toonami is never going to be the end all place for anime. It’s merely a gateway and eventually will hopefully produce their own stuff in addition to having exclusive pickups. There are more outlets for anime, Toonami will just merely be one of those venues.

You think that did it Alchemist? Well that’s why I think the network would have to see a trend before they read too much into this.

Jman- I thought you were the VRV spokesman. What happened? Did Netflix pay you more?

This Super thing is such an anomaly. They are really going to have to keep an eye on this and see if its a trend moving forward. As of yet, this may be the first time that the prime time stealth premiere beats the "official" premiere. This just came out of nowhere Meanwhile the slight lift here did not benefit the rest of the night due to the weak comedy lead ins. The Saturday schedule is so broken at this point they are going to have to do something to fix prime time so Toonami can have a better lead in. Back in the ASA and early Toonami revival days, Bleach used to suffer when AS would get cheap and run low performers as the lead in .

http://adultswim.x10.mx Well this is disappointing if true. Looks like DST programming won’t even be Toonami related or anything new or special. Hopefully there is a suprise of some kind and this is a misdirection.

I think it mostly means that more and more young people are entertained by social media than by cable TV. The appeal to me of live TV is that it’s more curated and your more likely to find something you’d never see on your own. Streaming is more of a “on your own “ thing and you have to seek things out. I also feel like people still want cable shows, but they don’t want to pay for them. Apparently there are methods to hack home media devices to get pirated content. I actually know people that do this. Others rely on YouTube before a copyright strike takes things down. I’m worried about the next generation who will ordinarily stream. By just sort of surrounding yourself with things you pick, you may never experience things that you never would have found on your own. Same goes with music, the downfall of things like regular radio and MTV keeps people in their little cacoons and won’t regularly just random here new music or a new artist the same way my generation did. Some are more adventurous than others, but making everything available on demand just sort of means things get lost in the shuffle.

It’s season 5... again.

I’d imagine there will more likely be the regular line up on Thanksgiving in order to make sure people tune in to the end of Countdown!