smiradenius Posted January 4 Posted January 4 An unpopular opinion: Man made climate change is not science. It's a cult religion, complete with extremist fanatics. Quote
naraku360 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) On 1/4/2025 at 1:34 PM, smiradenius said: An unpopular opinion: Man made climate change is not science. It's a cult religion, complete with extremist fanatics. Expand You also think smoke having a smell is some kind of mass hallucination, so..... You aren't prone to "unpopular" opinions so much as you're virtually exclusive to dumb ones. Edited January 4 by naraku360 4 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 5 Posted January 5 At least Kenny read the fucking assignment for once. 1 Quote
The_annoying_one Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 7:05 AM, scoobdog said: At least Kenny read the fucking assignment for once. Expand My only nitpick is that you don’t have to call it an unpopular opinion when it’s literally in the fucking thread title. 1 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 The California wild fires are the direct result of government incompetence and corruption. 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/9/2025 at 11:34 PM, smiradenius said: The California wild fires are the direct result of government incompetence and corruption. Expand Here’s an unpopular opinion: apparently, people would rather believe absurdly stupid shit like this than acknowledge that climate change means we have to change how we live. 2 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 2:32 AM, scoobdog said: Here’s an unpopular opinion: apparently, people would rather believe absurdly stupid shit like this than acknowledge that climate change means we have to change how we live. Expand Climate change had nothing to do with any of it. It's about cutting millions dollars off the fire department, the non functional hydrants and not having had the underbrush cleared out. 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:01 PM, smiradenius said: Climate change had nothing to do with any of it. It's about cutting millions dollars off the fire department, the non functional hydrants and not having had the underbrush cleared out. Expand … 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Alright @smiradenius - let's discuss all the reasons you have no idea what you're talking about. The winds that generated and propelled this fire are the result of shifting global weather patterns. When the atmosphere heats up, so do the oceans. When the oceans heat up, they impact how and where energy in atmosphere distributes. The fires in LA did not happen in an area with there was brush, they happened in suburban tracts. This is a result of extreme winds, irrespective of the source. Water infrastructure is one of the first things impacted by a wildfire. It doesn't matter how much water is stored in reserve. When a wild fire is spread rapidly, no water system ever conceived could provide enough water fast enough to properly address a raging fire on multiple fronts. This is why water and repellant drops by aircraft are usually the first and best means of stopping a wild fire spread. 1 2 2 Quote
discolé monade Posted January 10 Posted January 10 lmao the motherfuckin' 96 hours of pacterd. i told ya'll i told ya'll 1 3 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 7:53 PM, discolé monade said: lmao the motherfuckin' 96 hours of pacterd. i told ya'll i told ya'll Expand You nearly won the competition with that. 2 Quote
The_annoying_one Posted January 10 Posted January 10 I’m just here because I was told there would be snacks. 5 Quote
stilgar Posted January 10 Posted January 10 You would think his dumb ass would understand these things since New Jersey deals with wild fires all the time and this last autumn we got fucked by all the fires that were going on. Luckily there were no high winds to make it even worse. 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 8:47 PM, stilgar said: You would think his dumb ass would understand these things since New Jersey deals with wild fires all the time and this last autumn we got fucked by all the fires that were going on. Luckily there were no high winds to make it even worse. Expand I guess there isn’t much to burn in Mays Landing, except for the trash that gets dropped there. Quote
André Toulon Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Cmon...you know he wants to fuck up an existing thread or make one to get in the way. He ain't coming to discuss shit 2 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 9:40 PM, André Toulon said: Cmon...you know he wants to fuck up an existing thread or make one to get in the way. He ain't coming to discuss shit Expand I made a thread he can cum in and bogart. 3 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 The Santa Ana winds are nothing new. It's not climate change. They have been a prevailing pattern for thousands of years. The fires could have been prevented by clearing out the underbrush (the stuff that kindled the fires) Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:14 PM, smiradenius said: The Santa Ana winds are nothing new. It's not climate change. They have been a prevailing pattern for thousands of years. The fires could have been prevented by clearing out the underbrush (the stuff that kindled the fires) Expand You came! Tell us more about where Santa Ana winds come from. Aren’t they usually out of the east, southeast? Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 9:43 PM, Insipid said: Expand Gavin Newsom? Quote
naraku360 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) On 1/10/2025 at 7:42 PM, scoobdog said: Alright @smiradenius - let's discuss all the reasons you have no idea what you're talking about. Expand [Packard responds with something incredibly stupid] Edited January 10 by naraku360 3 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:16 PM, scoobdog said: You came! Tell us more about where Santa Ana winds come from. Aren’t they usually out of the east, southeast? Expand Doesn't matter where they came from. They're not new at all and none of our cabon emissions have changed them one way or the other. Quote
naraku360 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:14 PM, smiradenius said: The Santa Ana winds are nothing new. It's not climate change. They have been a prevailing pattern for thousands of years. The fires could have been prevented by clearing out the underbrush (the stuff that kindled the fires) Expand Goddamn, the stupid comes too fast. 2 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:19 PM, smiradenius said: Doesn't matter where they came from. They're not new at all and none of our cabon emissions have changed them one way or the other. Expand I beg to disagree. Would the fire have spread if they were coming off the ocean? Quote
Insipid Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:17 PM, smiradenius said: Gavin Newsom? Expand D.R.S. 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:17 PM, smiradenius said: Gavin Newsom? Expand Why would Gavin Newsome be on the AC Boardwalk? Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:19 PM, naraku360 said: [Packard responds with something incredibly stupid] Expand Now, let's talk about prevention. Why wasn't the kindling cleared out? Why were the reservoirs drained? Why were tens of millions of dollars for training, staffing and equipment for fire fighting cut off the budget? Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:20 PM, scoobdog said: I beg to disagree. Would the fire have spread if they were coming off the ocean? Expand Well, they didn't and the state wasn't prepared for that. Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:21 PM, scoobdog said: Why would Gavin Newsome be on the AC Boardwalk? Expand Because he's an absentee. Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:23 PM, smiradenius said: Well, they didn't and the state wasn't prepared for that. Expand We’re talking climate change. You said it had no bearing on wind direction. Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 (edited) On 1/10/2025 at 11:25 PM, scoobdog said: We’re talking climate change. You said it had no bearing on wind direction. Expand No, we're talking about why the kindling hadn't been cleared, why tens of millions of dollars for ttraining, staffing and equipment for fire fighting have been cut off the budget and why the reservoirs were empty. The winds were just simply doing what they had always done. Edited January 10 by smiradenius Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:23 PM, smiradenius said: Because he's an absentee. Expand Is he? I saw him in LA every day of the fire. Quote
naraku360 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:22 PM, smiradenius said: Now, let's talk about prevention. Expand I hear we could use our giant water faucet. Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:30 PM, scoobdog said: Is he? I saw him in LA every day of the fire. Expand He'll show up for photo op. Quote
scoobdog Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:30 PM, smiradenius said: No, we're talking about why the kindling hadn't been cleared, why tens of millions of dollars for ttraing, staffing and equipment for fire fighting have been cut off the budget and why the reservoirs were empty. The winds were just simply doing what they had always done. Expand What kindling would there be in a suburban tract? Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:31 PM, naraku360 said: I hear we could use our giant water faucet. Expand The one connected to an empty reservoir? Quote
Insipid Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Well, looks like this one's going through the ringer after all . . . 1 2 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:32 PM, scoobdog said: What kindling would there be in a suburban tract? Expand It was in the woods and after the fires started, the resulting embers and fly ashes ignited the suburbs. Quote
André Toulon Posted January 10 Posted January 10 We're talking about climate change. Packard: I don't know shit about that but AM radio said it's a lie so it all about kindling now 1 2 Quote
naraku360 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:33 PM, smiradenius said: The one connected to an empty reservoir? Expand I dunno, ask the guy about to be president. That's his wildfire solution. Quote
André Toulon Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:16 PM, scoobdog said: You came! Tell us more about where Santa Ana winds come from. Aren’t they usually out of the east, southeast? Expand He couldn't resist...my money was on him making his own thread but I guess when you're edging, you gotta get in while the getting is good 1 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:35 PM, André Toulon said: We're talking about climate change. Packard: I don't know shit about that but AM radio said it's a lie so it all about kindling now Expand Where does climate change fit into a lack of preparation or prevention in these fires? Quote
naraku360 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:36 PM, smiradenius said: Where does climate change fit into a lack of preparation or prevention in these fires? Expand The climate part. 1 Quote
André Toulon Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:36 PM, smiradenius said: Where does climate change fit into a lack of preparation or prevention in these fires? Expand It doesn't, All of the info you need is in the OP but you ignored that and moved the goal posts and now you're scoobs problem. 2 1 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:38 PM, naraku360 said: The climate part. Expand There is no climate part. Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 7:42 PM, scoobdog said: Alright @smiradenius - let's discuss all the reasons you have no idea what you're talking about. The winds that generated and propelled this fire are the result of shifting global weather patterns. When the atmosphere heats up, so do the oceans. When the oceans heat up, they impact how and where energy in atmosphere distributes. The fires in LA did not happen in an area with there was brush, they happened in suburban tracts. This is a result of extreme winds, irrespective of the source. Water infrastructure is one of the first things impacted by a wildfire. It doesn't matter how much water is stored in reserve. When a wild fire is spread rapidly, no water system ever conceived could provide enough water fast enough to properly address a raging fire on multiple fronts. This is why water and repellant drops by aircraft are usually the first and best means of stopping a wild fire spread. Expand Bullshit. 1 Quote
smiradenius Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 (edited) On 1/10/2025 at 11:50 PM, smiradenius said: Bullshit. Expand The fires started in overgrown, poorly managed wooded areas and were carried by embers and fly ashes to the suburbs. Edited January 10 by smiradenius Quote
André Toulon Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 11:50 PM, smiradenius said: Bullshit. Expand And this is why paying bills is a reason to celebrate for you. This insane level of willful ignorance. 2 1 Quote
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