Musicians robbed at gunpoint told to file an online report

[smiradenius]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wjhl.com/news/national/british-indie-rock-band-robbed-at-gunpoint-in-california-10-minutes-into-us-tour-group-says/amp/

[MasqueradeOverture]

I'm going on a wild assumption these guys are part of the Windmill scene.

[discolé monade]

because it's not in progress and/or not an emergency.

so......your point with this?

a second rate indie band got robbed? m'kay.

good story. 

[smiradenius]

Just now, discolé monade said:

because it's not in progress and/or not an emergency.

so......your point with this?

a second rate indie band got robbed? m'kay.

good story. 

An armed robbery with guns drawn isn't an emergency?   Since when?  Would you take it an more seriously if the gunmen were at a school?

[discolé monade]

If any of the following are NOT in progress, Please call the Non-Emergency line (916) XXX-XXXX

[smiradenius]

Just now, discolé monade said:

If any of the following are NOT in progress, Please call the Non-Emergency line (916) XXX-XXXX

It was in progress, guns drawn and pointed.

[discolé monade]

3 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

An armed robbery with guns drawn isn't an emergency?   Since when?  Would you take it an more seriously if the gunmen were at a school?

you're an idiot.

one is not the other.

by the time the cops were called the perps were already running. gone. per the video...HENCE, THEREFORE, WHICH MEANS....NOT in progress by the time they got coppers on the phone. PER THE ARTICLE.

 

[discolé monade]

2 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

It was in progress, guns drawn and pointed.

i didn't see any guns. not from the janky video of people watching the robbery. 

 XD

[smiradenius]

1 minute ago, discolé monade said:

you're an idiot.

one is not the other.

by the time the cops were called the perps were already running. gone. per the video...HENCE, THEREFORE, WHICH MEANS....NOT in progress by the time they got coppers on the phone. PER THE ARTICLE.

 

You wanna play semantics with this.

 

Listen, sending an email isn't going to get the crime investigated before those singers go back to England. 

[discolé monade]

Just now, smiradenius said:

You wanna play semantics with this.

 

Listen, sending an email isn't going to get the crime investigated before those singers go back to England. 

they CLAIM passports were stolen by GUN POINT. but i don't see guns. 

and yet, while the video is recording. and the 2 people are running, no one is calling 911. so....no longer in progress. 

[smiradenius]

1 minute ago, discolé monade said:

i didn't see any guns. not from the janky video of people watching the robbery. 

 XD

You're relying on a crowd of people who can't stop shaking the cameras?

 

Fine... wait for the fixed camera footage to be published. 

[smiradenius]

40 minutes ago, discolé monade said:

they CLAIM passports were stolen by GUN POINT. but i don't see guns. 

and yet, while the video is recording. and the 2 people are running, no one is calling 911. so....no longer in progress. 

All that proves to me is that more people are interested in filming than calliing 911 or trying to help.  

Edited December 7 by smiradenius

[discolé monade]

20 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

You're relying on a crowd of people who can't stop shaking the cameras?

 

Fine... wait for the fixed camera footage to be published. 

 

18 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

All that proves to me is that more peo6are interested in filming than calliing 911 or trying to help.  

i think you're reaching. 

[Seight]

1 hour ago, discolé monade said:

because it's not in progress and/or not an emergency.

so......your point with this?

a second rate indie band got robbed? m'kay.

good story. 

You're missing the "important" part, which I'm assuming is the fact that this happened in California.

[discolé monade]

8 minutes ago, Seight said:

You're missing the "important" part, which I'm assuming is the fact that this happened in California.

oh yeah?

2 can play at this game. 

[[classic swim]]

1 hour ago, smiradenius said:

before those singers go back to England

Who gives a shit!

[scoobdog]

8 hours ago, Seight said:

You're missing the "important" part, which I'm assuming is the fact that this happened in California.

If Kenny shows up in Cali, I'm robbing his ass with a banana.  I know what that fucker looks like.

[SwimOdin]

Why aren’t you mad that there’s a two-tier system of justice in this country, where these guys are robbed at gunpoint and a CEO gets killed and it’s a national manhunt? You want to make everything a conservative vs liberal fight, but we have a class fight in this country, and the longer we fight over “nonissues” (that, while important to many, pale in comparison to the actual nuts and bolts problems we have), the less we’ll notice how the rich keep getting richer and anyone who isn’t is having their standard of living plummet.

But please continue to simp over the poor beleaguered oil companies.

[1pooh4u]

The crime was no longer in progress when they called the cops. They were getting coffee. They were alerted about a thief robbing the van and one of the band members ran out to see what was up and that’s when he was met with a gun.  The crime was over by the time police got involved 

That’s how it goes. My place was burglarized and the perp was inside when I called the cops. The assailant fled before the cops got there. You know what they did?  Asked me “what do you want us to do about it?” So no this isn’t some sort of travesty of justice.  Cops are fuckin lazy and too busy to do their jobs once the crime is over. 

[smiradenius]

8 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

The crime was no longer in progress when they called the cops. They were getting coffee. They were alerted about a thief robbing the van and one of the band members ran out to see what was up and that’s when he was met with a gun.  The crime was over by the time police got involved 

That’s how it goes. My place was burglarized and the perp was inside when I called the cops. The assailant fled before the cops got there. You know what they did?  Asked me “what do you want us to do about it?” So no this isn’t some sort of travesty of justice.  Cops are fuckin lazy and too busy to do their jobs once the crime is over. 

So, in you case, was there even an investigation?

 

If not, why do you still pay your property taxes?

[1pooh4u]

23 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

So, in you case, was there even an investigation?

 

If not, why do you still pay your property taxes?

Nope. Cops didn’t do shit. I rent so I don’t pay property taxes. The taxes I do pay, I don’t have a choice 

 

[smiradenius]

5 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Nope. Cops didn’t do shit. I rent so I don’t pay property taxes. The taxes I do pay, I don’t have a choice 

 

You do realize, of course, that your landlord's property taxes are counted into the amount of rent you pay?  I mean, would he bother catering to you at all if he could only charge less than what he's paying out for those taxes?

[André Toulon]

Imagine Packard coming home to find out someone broke into his house and stole all his second hand bullshit, so he calls the cops and they actually arrest him because the items he described were already stolen and now they have a suspect.

But the reality is.... they'll placate him for a few moments....doodle on their little notepad for a few minutes and never contact him again and he's just like "what happened, I reported my emergency to the police but im still out of $400😮"

[smiradenius]

11 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Imagine Packard coming home to find out someone broke into his house and stole all his second hand bullshit, so he calls the cops and they actually arrest him because the items he described were already stolen and now they have a suspect.

But the reality is.... they'll placate him for a few moments....doodle on their little notepad for a few minutes and never contact him again and he's just like "what happened, I reported my emergency to the police but im still out of $400😮"

Problem:  The amount of stolen property in this place is absolute zero.

[André Toulon]

4 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Problem:  The amount of stolen property in this place is absolute zero.

Your pawn broker give you paperwork on the watch bracelet? 

If not, how would you know?...where do you think people largely sell stolen shit they can't unload on the streets.

No....you go to one of those fancy pawn shops that background checks all received items

I swear, it's like the more I get you to talk, the stupider you get....it should be impossible but somehow, you keep finding ways to bury that bar 

[smiradenius]

5 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Your pawn broker give you paperwork on the watch bracelet? 

If not, how would you know?...where do you think people largely sell stolen shit they can't unload on the streets.

No....you go to one of those fancy pawn shops that background checks all received items

I swear, it's like the more I get you to talk, the stupider you get....it should be impossible but somehow, you keep finding ways to bury that bar 

The check is required by state law, no exceptions, ever.

[André Toulon]

8 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

The check is required by state law, no exceptions, ever.

This is what I'm talking about about...I just said the other thing I respond to was just too stupid for words, and then you do this🤣

I've got cartoons to watch, but this was a hilarious opening act, thanks.

 

[1pooh4u]

1 hour ago, smiradenius said:

You do realize, of course, that your landlord's property taxes are counted into the amount of rent you pay?  I mean, would he bother catering to you at all if he could only charge less than what he's paying out for those taxes?

wtf is wrong with you?  You can never just admit you’re wrong?  It’s none of my business what my landlord considers when he sets my rent nor could I say “the cops didn’t do shit when my place was burglarized. I’m taking $$$ off the rent to not pay the property tax portion”. I do not pay property taxes as a renter regardless if it’s figured into my rent or not.  The taxes aren’t in my name. They are not my responsibility 

[smiradenius]

1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said:

wtf is wrong with you?  You can never just admit you’re wrong?  It’s none of my business what my landlord considers when he sets my rent nor could I say “the cops didn’t do shit when my place was burglarized. I’m taking $$$ off the rent to not pay the property tax portion”. I do not pay property taxes as a renter regardless if it’s figured into my rent or not.  The taxes aren’t in my name. They are not my responsibility 

So, you're okay with getting robbed and being denied a public service just because you don't recognize tenants as tax payers?

A burglar is bad enough, but it could have turned out considerably worse for you.

Maybe you don't care enough about yourself. 

[smiradenius]

48 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

This is what I'm talking about about...I just said the other thing I respond to was just too stupid for words, and then you do this🤣

I've got cartoons to watch, but this was a hilarious opening act, thanks.

 

So, you don't believe that New Jersey state law requires things like video of the transaction, seller identification and submission of the item for a police probe of whether the item has been reported stolen?

 

?

[André Toulon]

8 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

So, you don't believe that New Jersey state law requires things like video of the transaction, seller identification and submission of the item for a police probe of whether the item has been reported stolen?

 

?

So....just in this thread alone...you have shown your disdain for the lack of police action on a robbery no longer in progress, but think pawn brokers or police are seriously keeping tabs on every single random weed eater that gets drug in for a quick $20. I assure you, they are not.

Remember the Trading Places clip you posted in your thread about pawn shops. I would say that's a pretty accurate portrayal of just how much effort is put into finding out if a good is stolen.

Bro said it was hot, and still offered him $50 for it.

You're arguing against your own points at this juncture and all it takes is a little poke to get you running circles around yourself 

[smiradenius]

17 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

So....just in this thread alone...you have shown your disdain for the lack of police action on a robbery no longer in progress, but think pawn brokers or police are seriously keeping tabs on every single random weed eater that gets drug in for a quick $20. I assure you, they are not.

Remember the Trading Places clip you posted in your thread about pawn shops. I would say that's a pretty accurate portrayal of just how much effort is put into finding out if a good is stolen.

Bro said it was hot, and still offered him $50 for it.

You're arguing against your own points at this juncture and all it takes is a little poke to get you running circles around yourself 

That Clip is forty years old.  Things have changed since then.  Brokers still underbid, but can't keep their licenses valid without meeting the new check requirements. 

[André Toulon]

Just now, smiradenius said:

That Clip is forty years old.  Things have changed since then.  Brokers still underbid, but can't keep their licenses valid without meeting the new check requirements. 

Whatever you say, goofball. I was merely pointing out how the shit you post contradicts constantly but sure...let's talk about the age of the clip like I'm the one that posted it in defense of one of my stupid narratives.

Holy shit, wait....Do you think I'm you?

[smiradenius]

1 minute ago, André Toulon said:

Whatever you say, goofball. I was merely pointing out how the shit you post contradicts constantly but sure...let's talk about the age of the clip like I'm the one that posted it in defense of one of my stupid narratives.

Holy shit, wait....Do you think I'm you?

There's no contradiction.  Brokers underbid.  It's their nature.

[discolé monade]

 

 

 

12 hours ago, smiradenius said:

So, you're okay with getting robbed and being denied a public service just because you don't recognize tenants as tax payers?

A burglar is bad enough, but it could have turned out considerably worse for you.

Maybe you don't care enough about yourself. 

so, by your logic. if we get robbed in a rental (which i did) then it's our fault when no action is taken?

*pooh i was robbed as well, the cops took the report, even did some fingerprinting, to no avail. but the landlord blaimed me. said i set myself up to be robbed.*

 

i hope you have that same pleasant experience. coming home to find your door wide open, and personal items gone. you fucking clown. 

 

 

[1pooh4u]

12 hours ago, smiradenius said:

So, you're okay with getting robbed and being denied a public service just because you don't recognize tenants as tax payers?

A burglar is bad enough, but it could have turned out considerably worse for you.

Maybe you don't care enough about yourself. 

You’re an idiot. I tried talking to you like a person but you decided to be a moron. I CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE WAY YOU SUGGESTED BECAUSE I DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES. I AM NOT YELLING I AM USING CAPSLOCK BECAUSE MAYBE YOU CANNOT SEE PROPERLY TO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.  IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW I FEEL ABOUT MYSELF AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH I CANNOT WITHHOLD MONEY I DO NOT PAY AND IF I DID I COULDN’T ANYWAY BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. WE DON’T DECIDE TO NOT PAY TAXES JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WENT BADLY.  Understand?  Are there taxes you don’t pay because something upset you?  Please share if you do. We’d just love to hear about it. 

[1pooh4u]

49 minutes ago, discolé monade said:

 

 

 

so, by your logic. if we get robbed in a rental (which i did) then it's our fault when no action is taken?

*pooh i was robbed as well, the cops took the report, even did some fingerprinting, to no avail. but the landlord blaimed me. said i set myself up to be robbed.*

 

i hope you have that same pleasant experience. coming home to find your door wide open, and personal items gone. you fucking clown. 

 

 

That’s more than what they did for me. They blamed me because I dared to be out at 2 am on a Saturday night, well that’s what it felt like anyways 

Packard is a fuckin moron. I tried treating him like an adult human but he went full dumb ass instead 

[smiradenius]

1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said:

You’re an idiot. I tried talking to you like a person but you decided to be a moron. I CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE WAY YOU SUGGESTED BECAUSE I DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES. I AM NOT YELLING I AM USING CAPSLOCK BECAUSE MAYBE YOU CANNOT SEE PROPERLY TO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.  IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW I FEEL ABOUT MYSELF AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH I CANNOT WITHHOLD MONEY I DO NOT PAY AND IF I DID I COULDN’T ANYWAY BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. WE DON’T DECIDE TO NOT PAY TAXES JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING WENT BADLY.  Understand?  Are there taxes you don’t pay because something upset you?  Please share if you do. We’d just love to hear about it. 

So, if your car is burning, you shouldn't expect the fire brigade to put it out because you don't pay your municipal or county taxes.  And, you shouldn't be allowed to walk or drive on public streets, visit the public library, eat lunch in a public park or even use a public restroom... because you don't pay your taxes.  You dodge them by renting an apartment. 

[André Toulon]

13 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

So, if your car is burning, you shouldn't expect the fire brigade to put it out because you don't pay your municipal or county taxes.  And, you shouldn't be allowed to walk or drive on public streets, visit the public library, eat lunch in a public park or even use a public restroom... because you don't pay your taxes.  You dodge them by renting an apartment. 

Neither should you. You refuse to pay the $0.50 to legally smoke in your state. 

But wah, it unfairly targets my specific minority group of smokers and that means it's ok for me to not pay it.

You even said the dumb shit that it doesn't apply to everyone, but it clearly does....if anyone chooses to smoke.  

So to summarize, you are not a revolutionary. You are a junkie that doesn't want to pay to be a legal junkie. You're exactly the same as any fiend buying drugs off the street. Exactly....the same. 

Well, you're likely legit dumber than the vast majority of meth heads and such, but it's funnier that you think anyone has your current situation on their list of goals.

[1pooh4u]

59 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

So, if your car is burning, you shouldn't expect the fire brigade to put it out because you don't pay your municipal or county taxes.  And, you shouldn't be allowed to walk or drive on public streets, visit the public library, eat lunch in a public park or even use a public restroom... because you don't pay your taxes.  You dodge them by renting an apartment. 

Ok. I’m done. I have no idea wtf you are even talking about and I don’t care to try and figure it out.   I will say this one last time. I rent I do not receive nor do I pay a property tax bill. The rest of what you said is just fuckin stupid.   Don’t bother replying because I will not reply back any further.  You’re just a fuckin clown performing for a one person circus. 
 

ETA just one more thing jic I was unclear 

 I don’t EVADE PAYING ANYTHING. PROPERTY TAXES ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT, GUESS WHAT?!?….OWN PROPERTY. I DON’T OWN PROPERTY THEREFORE I DON’T PAY PROPERTY TAXES. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY DOES AND IT CANNOT BE WITHHELD JUST BECAUSE POLICE ACTED LIKE POLICE. PROPERTY TAX NOT PAID?  NO ONE FROM THE IRS IS GOING TO TRY AND COLLECT IT DIRECTLY FROM ME. 

Edited December 9 by 1pooh4u

[smiradenius]

21 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Ok. I’m done. I have no idea wtf you are even talking about and I don’t care to try and figure it out.   I will say this one last time. I rent I do not receive nor do I pay a property tax bill. The rest of what you said is just fuckin stupid.   Don’t bother replying because I will not reply back any further.  You’re just a fuckin clown performing for a one person circus. 
 

ETA just one more thing jic I was unclear 

 I don’t EVADE PAYING ANYTHING. PROPERTY TAXES ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT, GUESS WHAT?!?….OWN PROPERTY. I DON’T OWN PROPERTY THEREFORE I DON’T PAY PROPERTY TAXES. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY DOES AND IT CANNOT BE WITHHELD JUST BECAUSE POLICE ACTED LIKE POLICE. PROPERTY TAX NOT PAID?  NO ONE FROM THE IRS IS GOING TO TRY AND COLLECT IT DIRECTLY FROM ME. 

Okay, so you found a very convenient loophole.  If you have any kids, they shouldn't be allowed to attend a public school.

[André Toulon]

Holy shit. Renting is a loophole to property tax.

I love fucking with this dude but holy fuck, I'm almost on board with just smoking his ass off the boards. This level of stupidity is on par for when y'all make mumbo take a break until he's on his medication. 

Like I want to say this is trolling, but I've had way too many conversations where it's clear this dude is the dumbest of dumbasses.

[1pooh4u]

5 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Holy shit. Renting is a loophole to property tax.

I love fucking with this dude but holy fuck, I'm almost on board with just smoking his ass off the boards. This level of stupidity is on par for when y'all make mumbo take a break until he's on his medication. 

Like I want to say this is trolling, but I've had way too many conversations where it's clear this dude is the dumbest of dumbasses.

Yeah I can’t believe I tried to be normal with this idiot. He just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper just because he can’t admit that 1 as a renter in NY property taxes aren’t my responsibility to pay and 2 if they were I couldn’t just not pay it because the cops acted like lazy fucks. 

[1pooh4u]

In a million years I never thought explaining paying taxes, or not paying taxes on something you don’t own, or didn’t purchase would be so fuckin difficult.   Doesn’t mean the tax isn’t paid. Doesn’t mean the person doesn’t pay taxes at all.  

[smiradenius]

6 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

In a million years I never thought explaining paying taxes, or not paying taxes on something you don’t own, or didn’t purchase would be so fuckin difficult.   Doesn’t mean the tax isn’t paid. Doesn’t mean the person doesn’t pay taxes at all.  

Oh, now you're changing your tune?

[1pooh4u]

5 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Oh, now you're changing your tune?

I’m not changing my tune I don’t pay the tax. I don’t own the property.  I have a job. It’s not like I don’t pay taxes at all.  My landlord paying the taxes on the property THEY OWN is not me paying property taxes that I can magically withhold, according to you, because the cops were lazy. 

[André Toulon]

17 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Oh, now you're changing your tune?

Nope, you're just monumentally stupid and lack any form of comprehension. 

[smiradenius]

17 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m not changing my tune I don’t pay the tax. I don’t own the property.  I have a job. It’s not like I don’t pay taxes at all.  My landlord paying the taxes on the property THEY OWN is not me paying property taxes that I can magically withhold, according to you, because the cops were lazy. 

Regardless of whether you pay the tax directly or not, you were still entitled to at least a more thorough investigation.  You're getting cheated by your government and you won't look that in the face to recognize it.

[1pooh4u]

Fr how I feel 

[1pooh4u]

2 minutes ago, smiradenius said:

Regardless of whether you pay the tax directly or not, you were still entitled to at least a more thorough investigation.  You're getting cheated by your government and you won't look that in the face to recognize it.

BUT I CANNOT JUST NOT PAY TAXES BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE SOMETHING. I ALSO DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE I DON’T OWN PROPERTY. THAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL COMMENT TO ME.