Mr. Idea Box Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Well, well, well. I bet no one expected Toonami to last another year, did we? With the finales of Attack on Titan and Naruto Shippuden, the Toonami Rewind block on Friday afternoons, and the sudden return of Blue Exorcist, it's been a hectic year. Then again, every year has its ups and downs, especially in the anime industry. And I did say I would try to predict what Toonami could look like next year. But you know what? Screw the wait, I'm starting my predictions early. December 2024 12.0 AM: Invincible Fight Girl 12.5 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: IGPX: Season 2 (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Rick and Morty: The Anime (dubbed premiere) Toonami Rewind: 5.0 PM: Sailor Moon 5.5 PM: Dragon Ball Z Kai 6.0 PM: Naruto 6.5 PM: Naruto / IGPX / Invincible Fight Girl January 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: IGPX: Season 2 (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Lycoris Recoil (rerun) February 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: IGPX: Season 2 (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Lycoris Recoil (rerun) March 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Lycoris Recoil (rerun) 3.0 AM: My Adventures with Superman (rerun) Mid-April 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: My Adventures with Superman (x2; reruns) May 2025 12.0 AM: Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Hashira Training Arc 12.5 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 1.0 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: My Adventures with Superman (x2; reruns) Early June 2025 12.0 AM: Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Hashira Training Arc 1.0 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal (x2; reruns) Mid-June or July 2025 12.0 AM: My Adventures with Superman: Season 3 12.5 AM: Dr. Stone: Science Future: Cour #1 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Arc 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal (x2; reruns) Mid-August 2025 12.0 AM: My Adventures with Superman: Season 3 12.5 AM: Dr. Stone: Science Future 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Arc 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Zom 100: Bucket List of the Dead (x2; reruns) September 2025 12.0 AM: Lazarus 12.5 AM: Creature Commandos 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 1.5 AM: Fire Force: Season 3 2.0 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.5 AM: Zom 100: Bucket List of the Dead (x2; reruns) October 2025 12.0 AM: Creature Commandos 12.5 AM: Lazarus 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 1.5 AM: Fire Force: Season 3 2.0 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.5 AM: Uzumaki (dubbed premiere) November 2025 12.0 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal: Season 3 12.5 AM: Lazarus 1.0 AM: Fire Force: Season 3 1.5 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 2.0 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles: The Divine Visionary Candidate Exam Arc 2.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) December 2025 12.0 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal: Season 3 12.5 AM: Dr. Stone: Science Future: Cour #2 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 1.5 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles: The Divine Visionary Candidate Exam Arc 2.0 AM: One Piece (x2; half-reruns) 3.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) Now watch this be entirely inaccurate by New Years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Smarter money would have been waiting another month to see if anything with Daima or MHA materializes in November. Clarify what exactly “half rerun” means. I’m seeing that on One Piece which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense since these are premier episodes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted October 31 Author Share Posted October 31 6 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: Smarter money would have been waiting another month to see if anything with Daima or MHA materializes in November. Yeah, I can see that. But I think it would be easier if Daima and MHA were headliners at the beginning of the year, rather than headlining the month of Christmas. 6 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: Clarify what exactly “half rerun” means. I’m seeing that on One Piece which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense since these are premier episodes. Yes, those episodes are technically premieres. But since those episodes are a decade old, I tend to think of them as half rerun, half premiere. Or, for those who used to watch Nick at Nite, an "instant rerun". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 The lack of any new info on Get Jiro! has me thinking that hits late 2025/early 2026 provided we're all still alive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 No Thanksgiving marathon keeps IFG on track to end by 2025. Rumor has it eps 9 and 10 will air on December 21st so I’m not surprised but confirmation there will be no week off in November is nice. We might only have one week with no new content on Toonami for the rest of 2024, December 28th. If they need to stall one more week they might take January 4th off but that seems rather unnecessary. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 (edited) My predictions of various degrees of plausibility: Sailor Moon continues into Sailor Moon R (though that's more a "two weeks from now" prediction) Gundam Wing shows up on Rewind at some point MHA 7, Mashle 2, Dr. Stone: Science Future inevitably show up Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Saga is announced at the last possible moment so the claims that anything beyond season 1 was an uncertainty seem more legit Lazarus in mid-winter a la Ninja Kamui and gets a lot of forced hate from people who claim it isn't forced actually (TM) Another outta-nowhere Aniplex pickup shows itself - maybe SK8 finally, as a show of solidarity for David Wald in the face of Crunchyroll stealing his mail being the straw that broke the camel's back and forced him to cut ties with them? Demarco has a meltdown on Bluesky Edited November 13 by PokeNirvash 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted November 13 Author Share Posted November 13 10 hours ago, Sketch said: No Thanksgiving marathon keeps IFG on track to end by 2025. Rumor has it eps 9 and 10 will air on December 21st so I’m not surprised but confirmation there will be no week off in November is nice. We might only have one week with no new content on Toonami for the rest of 2024, December 28th. If they need to stall one more week they might take January 4th off but that seems rather unnecessary. Who am I to refuse an announcement like that? 6 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: My predictions of various degrees of plausibility: Sailor Moon continues into Sailor Moon R (though that's more a "two weeks from now" prediction) Gundam Wing shows up on Rewind at some point That's a Rewind lineup I wouldn't mind seeing. 6 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: MHA 7, Mashle 2, Dr. Stone: Science Future inevitably show up I mean, we've blown through most of Demon Slayer by this point, and MHA has become an evergreen property by now. 6 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Saga is announced at the last possible moment so the claims that anything beyond season 1 was an uncertainty seem more legit Given the PR track record over the past 5 years, this would not surprise me. Which is sad. 6 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Lazarus in mid-winter a la Ninja Kamui and gets a lot of forced hate from people who claim it isn't forced actually (TM) I really hope Lazarus isn't a February show. Do they want the creator of Cowboy Bebop to have something as rushed as Uzumaki under his belt? 6 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Another outta-nowhere Aniplex pickup shows itself - maybe SK8 finally, as a show of solidarity for David Wald in the face of Crunchyroll stealing his mail being the straw that broke the camel's back and forced him to cut ties with them? This depends. Would Toonami risk never getting Crunchyroll shows if it meant showing solidarity to their staff? Odds are unlikely if you ask me. 6 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Demarco has a meltdown on Bluesky Yeah, that would happen next year, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 11 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: MHA 7, Mashle 2, Dr. Stone: Science Future inevitably show up The most recent season of Demon Slayer should be here too. It’s only 8 episodes so it won’t be hard to fit in. Also, if we can swing MHA, we should still be able to swing Fire Force too. 11 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Another outta-nowhere Aniplex pickup shows itself - maybe SK8 finally, as a show of solidarity for David Wald in the face of Crunchyroll stealing his mail being the straw that broke the camel's back and forced him to cut ties with them? Demarco barely knows anything about current anime, I highly doubt he is up to date on current VA drama. 4 hours ago, Mr. Idea Box said: This depends. Would Toonami risk never getting Crunchyroll shows if it meant showing solidarity to their staff? Odds are unlikely if you ask me. But on that topic, Crunchyroll doesn’t give us shit anyway so what’s the worry? 11 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Demarco has a meltdown on Bluesky Come on, that’s not a fair prediction to make. That’s like saying the sun will rise tomorrow. 4 hours ago, Mr. Idea Box said: really hope Lazarus isn't a February show. Do they want the creator of Cowboy Bebop to have something as rushed as Uzumaki under his belt? According to the most recent panel, the show is basically already done. Finish up the voice work, cross some T’s and it should be ready to roll so February sounds right. That will carry it to mid May just like Kamui did this year. Uzumaki should be a lesson that more time does not result in a better end product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mr. Idea Box said: This depends. Would Toonami risk never getting Crunchyroll shows if it meant showing solidarity to their staff? Odds are unlikely if you ask me. Hey, I never specified the solidarity had to be outspoken. Think of it as implied solidarity. For some it's a show of support for Wald, for others it's homoerotic skateboarding boys on broadcast television. Besides, it's not like I'm anticipating Toonami to go for a solidarity pickup. Otherwise, they'd have aired Haruhi and/or Beyond the Boundary in response to the KyoAni arson attack already. Edited November 14 by PokeNirvash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 32 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said: Hey, I never specified the solidarity had to be outspoken. Think of it as implied solidarity. For some it's a show of support for Wald, for others it's homoerotic skateboarding boys on broadcast television. Besides, it's not like I'm anticipating Toonami to go for a solidarity pickup. Otherwise, they'd have aired Haruhi and/or Beyond the Boundary in response to the KyoAni arson attack already. Good points on your end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 So it ended up being kinda low key, but the Daima theater premier came and went without any type of news regarding the home for the rest of the dub. We need a schedule update by next Friday so we will see if they managed anything. We also may be getting a Rewind update unless SM is just gonna slide ride into S2. Perhaps my Daima premier on Rewind theory will come to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 Advanced schedules show a DBZ Kai marathon (the next 4 episodes not repeats of recently aired ones) airing on December 6th which doesn't bode well for Sailor Moon continuing into season 2 before early 2025. On the other hand it could serve as promotion for Daima but that seems a little too optimistic to think. A lack of news for Daima's dub streaming anywhere remains a good sign that Toonami can get it before streaming but it's far from a sure thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted November 17 Author Share Posted November 17 5 hours ago, Sketch said: Advanced schedules show a DBZ Kai marathon (the next 4 episodes not repeats of recently aired ones) airing on December 6th which doesn't bode well for Sailor Moon continuing into season 2 before early 2025. On the other hand it could serve as promotion for Daima but that seems a little too optimistic to think. A lack of news for Daima's dub streaming anywhere remains a good sign that Toonami can get it before streaming but it's far from a sure thing. That's what I'm thinking, too. Of course, I was actually thinking Sailor Moon would be done for good after the 29th, but let's see how time tells this story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 I don’t see the word “Toonami” anywhere in this post, but where else would it go? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said: I don’t see the word “Toonami” anywhere in this post, but where else would it go? If this somehow ends up on FX or TBS, we all start hitting the “Toonami is dying” button. Edited November 24 by Jman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 8 minutes ago, Jman said: If this somehow ends up on FX or TBS, we all start hitting the “Toonami is dying” button. It’s an Aniplex dub, which usually bodes well for us. And this was a Fate panel, not an Aniplex one, so they may have been more mindful of not spilling the beans the way Aniplex did last year with Lycoris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 2 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: I don’t see the word “Toonami” anywhere in this post, but where else would it go? I guess we have a tradition of early Winter curveballs, now. 2024 had Lycoris, 2025 might have this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Finally, that Fate autist who wouldn't stop clogging my Ask.fm with questions can finally be satisfied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 All but certain Fate UBW is coming to Toonami, there’s no other channel that would touch it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 That'd be interesting at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Now that we have a little more info to work with, here is my early 2025 prediction for the block. 12 - MHA S7 or Daima 12:30 - Mashle (continuing straight into S2) 1 - Fate (10 years old thus not top billing) 1:30 - One Piece 2 - Blue Exorcist (if they get S2, possibly replacing Mashle) 2:30 - DBZ Kai 3 - whatever rerun I don’t give a shit I know they have said that Lazarus is getting its finishing touches, but just because a show is finished doesn’t mean it has to go straight on air. Given it’s probably the only full size original that will be ready for 2025, I could see them saving it for the summer stretch. That of course entirely rides on them either having MHA or Daima. They could cram it in, just knock everything down a slot, but they tend to be more strategic with their resources these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 It seems Fate has other plans… it’s a Canadian cable channel AXS TV Toonami can potentially get it but probably not unless Aniplex really pushes for it I see Lazarus coming in as early as mid-February or March around Toonami’s anniversary but yeah it probably depends on what they have in January 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 A frickin' music channel trying to worm its way on the anime bandwagon. I swear, this is like Ergo Proxy on FUSE all over again... Eh, it makes more sense for Toonami to start with Fate/zero anyways. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 I think I’m going to need to watch Fate on CR then. Let’s see how long I last. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 6 hours ago, Sketch said: It seems Fate has other plans… it’s a Canadian cable channel AXS TV Toonami can potentially get it but probably not unless Aniplex really pushes for it I see Lazarus coming in as early as mid-February or March around Toonami’s anniversary but yeah it probably depends on what they have in January I will admit to being fooled with that particular wording of the announcement, but unless AXS's anime hour also plays anime themes in between the episodes, I'm slightly confused as to how they'd get the cable rights to that show. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 I haven’t admittedly cared about AXS since they switched from a variety network that aired a surprisingly robust amount of international MMA (before our modern UFC-opoly had most of the minor leagues go through their Fight Pass service) to a mostly music based one. Fate is definitely a new path for them, even if I’d prefer they aired RIZIN or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 I occasionally watched Impact Wrestling on AXS up until 2021 when I decided to boycott them when I saw too many My Pillow commercials. But it is a new day in America, and I just might give them a try again if they air Fate/UBW in 2025. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Well rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 10 hours ago, Sketch said: It seems Fate has other plans… it’s a Canadian cable channel AXS TV Toonami can potentially get it but probably not unless Aniplex really pushes for it I see Lazarus coming in as early as mid-February or March around Toonami’s anniversary but yeah it probably depends on what they have in January Welp, I guess we never considered cable in other countries. Oh well. I doubt Toonami has any real interest in the show so I wouldn’t expect to see it. With that, I’m moving my chips back to February for Lazarus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 10 hours ago, Sketch said: It seems Fate has other plans… it’s a Canadian cable channel AXS TV Not the American version? I'm not seeing any channel with this name up north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Uh... perhaps it is the US channel. If so then their anime.com block hasn't launched yet. The website hasn't fully launched yet either. Makes me wonder what else they're showing in their Anime Hour and how long it can even last given Chiller's block was gone in like 3 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Of all the mistakes made, Three Fabulous Weeks of Chiller Ani-Wednesdays being, well, three weeks long was the biggest, second only to no subtitles for ITAZ. It was a niche network that was on its last legs anyways, they had nothing to lose airing out the rest of the contract, even if there was an 89% viewership drop between the first and second weeks! Something tells me UBW on AXS is gonna last a tad longer. Four weeks minimum, for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 3 hours ago, Sketch said: Uh... perhaps it is the US channel. If so then their anime.com block hasn't launched yet. The website hasn't fully launched yet either. Makes me wonder what else they're showing in their Anime Hour and how long it can even last given Chiller's block was gone in like 3 weeks. Chiller’s block was a leadership and identity issue. They wanted some of that delicious anime money but didn’t know a thing about those damn Chinese cartoons that the kids love these days. A horror themed channel led their debut anime block with…a comedy harem show. Why? I assume because the word “zombie” was the only English one in its title. The other three shows didn’t even matter at this point, but they were garbage. Could the Chiller block have worked? Maybe longer than 3 weeks with better leadership. The channel was very niche and died entirely a few years later so I don’t think it was in the best place anyway. But an 89% loss of viewership going into week two is irredeemable regardless of how big or small your channel is. So looking at a potential new anime block, what is its identity? Do they have one or are they just gonna throw darts at the popular franchise board? I guess we will see, but the bar is pretty low from Chiller’s attempt. Personally, I welcome a competing anime block. For way too long Demarco has been content to just coast because he never had to worry about Toonami being compared to anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 (edited) Gotta wonder what else besides Fate UBW that the new block will show. Some weeks Fate would fill the entire thing but they can pair it with something most weeks. If it's pulling from Aniplex titles maybe Erased or Madoka if they're going for a moody block or Magi if they want to air it with another fantasy. Perhaps Irregular at Magic High School, Darwin's Game, or the Asterisk War? It would be much less interesting to show something that's already aired on Adult Swim but SAO, FMAB and Gurren Lagann are easy marks. Maybe even the dub premiere of Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai? If they can actually get something from the Crunchyroll side of Sony... that would be a pretty sizable F-U to Toonami. I don't expect they can afford that but who could say? Speaking of those hour episodes. The first two episodes are both about 50 mins long. That might be a tough pill to swallow for their viewers. We might be looking at a block death speed run record given that. Can it even get to the first normal length episode in the 3rd week? Best of luck with that. Edited November 27 by Sketch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 1 hour ago, Sketch said: Speaking of those hour episodes. The first two episodes are both about 50 mins long. That might be a tough pill to swallow for their viewers. We might be looking at a block death speed run record given that. Can it even get to the first normal length episode in the 3rd week? Best of luck with that. How niche is this channel? I have the bog standard cable package and I don’t think that’s in my lineup. Fate is a pretty popular franchise, so if this channel is accessible, I could see exceeding Chiller purely on show status. ItaZ is funny, and was an internet darling in its season, but doesn’t really have a huge following who would have raced to Chiller to watch it. Fate does. I could see them just rolling with an hour of Fate if the block is in a trial period. That resolves the extended episodes without any shuffles needed and keeps the story at a more brisk pace which should increase the chance of success. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 On 10/30/2024 at 11:20 PM, Mr. Idea Box said: Well, well, well. I bet no one expected Toonami to last another year, did we? With the finales of Attack on Titan and Naruto Shippuden, the Toonami Rewind block on Friday afternoons, and the sudden return of Blue Exorcist, it's been a hectic year. Then again, every year has its ups and downs, especially in the anime industry. And I did say I would try to predict what Toonami could look like next year. But you know what? Screw the wait, I'm starting my predictions early. December 2024 12.0 AM: Invincible Fight Girl 12.5 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: IGPX: Season 2 (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Rick and Morty: The Anime (dubbed premiere) Toonami Rewind: 5.0 PM: Sailor Moon 5.5 PM: Dragon Ball Z Kai 6.0 PM: Naruto 6.5 PM: Naruto / IGPX / Invincible Fight Girl January 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: IGPX: Season 2 (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Lycoris Recoil (rerun) February 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: IGPX: Season 2 (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Lycoris Recoil (rerun) March 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Lycoris Recoil (rerun) 3.0 AM: My Adventures with Superman (rerun) Mid-April 2025 12.0 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 12.5 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist (rerun) 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: My Adventures with Superman (x2; reruns) May 2025 12.0 AM: Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Hashira Training Arc 12.5 AM: Dragon Ball Daima 1.0 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: My Adventures with Superman (x2; reruns) Early June 2025 12.0 AM: Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba: Hashira Training Arc 1.0 AM: My Hero Academia: Season 7 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal (x2; reruns) Mid-June or July 2025 12.0 AM: My Adventures with Superman: Season 3 12.5 AM: Dr. Stone: Science Future: Cour #1 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Arc 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal (x2; reruns) Mid-August 2025 12.0 AM: My Adventures with Superman: Season 3 12.5 AM: Dr. Stone: Science Future 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Arc 1.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) 2.5 AM: Zom 100: Bucket List of the Dead (x2; reruns) September 2025 12.0 AM: Lazarus 12.5 AM: Creature Commandos 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 1.5 AM: Fire Force: Season 3 2.0 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.5 AM: Zom 100: Bucket List of the Dead (x2; reruns) October 2025 12.0 AM: Creature Commandos 12.5 AM: Lazarus 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 1.5 AM: Fire Force: Season 3 2.0 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 2.5 AM: Uzumaki (dubbed premiere) November 2025 12.0 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal: Season 3 12.5 AM: Lazarus 1.0 AM: Fire Force: Season 3 1.5 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 2.0 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles: The Divine Visionary Candidate Exam Arc 2.5 AM: One Piece (half-rerun) 3.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) December 2025 12.0 AM: Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal: Season 3 12.5 AM: Dr. Stone: Science Future: Cour #2 1.0 AM: Blue Exorcist: Shimane Illuminati Saga 1.5 AM: Mashle: Magic and Muscles: The Divine Visionary Candidate Exam Arc 2.0 AM: One Piece (x2; half-reruns) 3.0 AM: Dragon Ball Z Kai (rerun) Now watch this be entirely inaccurate by New Years. They made an announcement for the 21 and the 28th will be marathons. For rewind the 2nd and the 13th will be marathons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 For reference: Mark Cuban owns AXS. Doesn't mean anything, but AXS is owned by someone I wouldn't mind being president while AS/CN is owned by *checks notes* The Antichrist. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KageRageX Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 So if AXS is gonna get in the anime game, then......when will FXX, FX and/or Freeform bring back Jetix? And could MTV bring back SLAM? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 On 11/27/2024 at 12:12 AM, Toonamiguy321 said: How niche is this channel? I have the bog standard cable package and I don’t think that’s in my lineup. Fate is a pretty popular franchise, so if this channel is accessible, I could see exceeding Chiller purely on show status. ItaZ is funny, and was an internet darling in its season, but doesn’t really have a huge following who would have raced to Chiller to watch it. Fate does. I could see them just rolling with an hour of Fate if the block is in a trial period. That resolves the extended episodes without any shuffles needed and keeps the story at a more brisk pace which should increase the chance of success. Good point, they can just have Fate fill the hour every week. That’s a bit boring to do but that’s typical cable TV scheduling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Speaking of typical cable scheduling… Kai x 4 continues on Dec 20th It will be eps 40-43, if eps 44-47 air on Dec 27th then they’ll reach Super Saiyan Goku Gotta wonder how long Kai x 4 will last at this rate. My guess would be until the end of the Freeza battle a few weeks into January. They really just dropped Naruto mid chunin exam prelims for 3+ weeks. That’s pretty bogus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 And so the prodigal son has become the red-headed stepchild. Well, blonde stepchild, in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted November 30 Author Share Posted November 30 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sketch said: Speaking of typical cable scheduling… Kai x 4 continues on Dec 20th It will be eps 40-43, if eps 44-47 air on Dec 27th then they’ll reach Super Saiyan Goku Gotta wonder how long Kai x 4 will last at this rate. My guess would be until the end of the Freeza battle a few weeks into January. They really just dropped Naruto mid chunin exam prelims for 3+ weeks. That’s pretty bogus. At this rate, it wouldn't surprise me if we got Naruto marathons in January. Sure, it would continue to be ratings suicide, but I don't know how else they're planning around Rewind. 2 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: And so the prodigal son has become the red-headed stepchild. Well, blonde stepchild, in this case. Unwanted by his village, and now unwanted by the only cable home he's ever had. We do not talk about Disney XD airing Shippuden. Edited November 30 by Mr. Idea Box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 If it helps any, the Naruto/TMNT comic was second in sales only to Ultimate Spider Man, which is Marvel’s hottest title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 That’s impressive. I need to go pick up my copy reserved at the local comic shop soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 10 hours ago, Sketch said: Speaking of typical cable scheduling… Kai x 4 continues on Dec 20th It will be eps 40-43, if eps 44-47 air on Dec 27th then they’ll reach Super Saiyan Goku Gotta wonder how long Kai x 4 will last at this rate. My guess would be until the end of the Freeza battle a few weeks into January. They really just dropped Naruto mid chunin exam prelims for 3+ weeks. That’s pretty bogus. I believe the wording of the Facebook post is worth noting. Nowhere does it say this is a marathon, that it’s temporary, that it’s only for December, etc. It says they are all in on DBZ Kai. That means this schedule is the permanent one until they decide to change it. Last schedule update was in July, so this could possibly be the lineup for 4+ months for all we know. I know the optimists think this will change with the budget reset, but Saturday needs new shows too once that happens and I expect them to prioritize that over Rewind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted November 30 Author Share Posted November 30 4 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: I believe the wording of the Facebook post is worth noting. Nowhere does it say this is a marathon, that it’s temporary, that it’s only for December, etc. It says they are all in on DBZ Kai. That means this schedule is the permanent one until they decide to change it. Last schedule update was in July, so this could possibly be the lineup for 4+ months for all we know. I know the optimists think this will change with the budget reset, but Saturday needs new shows too once that happens and I expect them to prioritize that over Rewind. Okay, then. If Rewind is nothing but Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes for the next few months, this means we have to endure with this schedule until July 2025. Unless they decide to pull a Naruto and skip an arc during the process. That does not look like a good schedule. At least the Checkered Past lineups prioritize episodic shows, even when they aired marathons of their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 41 minutes ago, Mr. Idea Box said: Okay, then. If Rewind is nothing but Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes for the next few months, this means we have to endure with this schedule until July 2025. Unless they decide to pull a Naruto and skip an arc during the process. That does not look like a good schedule. At least the Checkered Past lineups prioritize episodic shows, even when they aired marathons of their own. I don’t think it will be that dire, I’m just saying the common belief that this automatically ends on January 3rd is misplaced. One or two things will happen, either by February they get the schedule fixed, or by then they officially pull the plug. Cause the block will have irreparable damage from a month of Kai, it ain’t gonna survive two or more months of that. If my math is right, by the end of the year, Kai ends square on episode 50, the same amount of episode they buy One Piece at. So there’s a chance that January swaps over to pure Naruto if they aren’t renewing anything for Rewind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 On 11/27/2024 at 3:12 AM, Toonamiguy321 said: How niche is this channel? I have the bog standard cable package and I don’t think that’s in my lineup. Fate is a pretty popular franchise, so if this channel is accessible, I could see exceeding Chiller purely on show status. ItaZ is funny, and was an internet darling in its season, but doesn’t really have a huge following who would have raced to Chiller to watch it. Fate does. I could see them just rolling with an hour of Fate if the block is in a trial period. That resolves the extended episodes without any shuffles needed and keeps the story at a more brisk pace which should increase the chance of success. Same, even with having tons of stations on my cable I've never even heard of that channel, lmao. Guess it's probably not on my service lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 6 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: I don’t think it will be that dire, I’m just saying the common belief that this automatically ends on January 3rd is misplaced. One or two things will happen, either by February they get the schedule fixed, or by then they officially pull the plug. Cause the block will have irreparable damage from a month of Kai, it ain’t gonna survive two or more months of that. If my math is right, by the end of the year, Kai ends square on episode 50, the same amount of episode they buy One Piece at. So there’s a chance that January swaps over to pure Naruto if they aren’t renewing anything for Rewind. Pretty sure they have 98 episodes of DBZ Kai and that's one reason why they kept it doubled up for a few months and are now doing 4 episodes a week. Logically the original schedule could have lasted about a year if it stayed as it was. 46 episodes of Sailor Moon, 98 episodes of DBZ Kai and 52 episodes of Naruto. I can't imagine they only bought 50 or 52 because that doesn't quite finish Freeza but they wouldn't have gotten precisely the amount to finish Freeza either so it was probably the original 98 episodes of Kai and they haven't reacquired the Buu saga yet. I'm not entirely ruling out they only got 50 or 52 but theoretically they planned on bringing back Kai even before Rewind was in the cards and were aiming to use it as 2 years of filler on Saturday Toonami since Naruto Shippuden was ending. Unlike Sailor Moon and Naruto, they're just using the tapes they already had and it's a deal with Toei not Viz so I think they just talked to Toei and got the okay to use those 98 tapes again for a modest fee. I guess we'll see what happens in January. Naruto has 13 episodes left in that batch of 52 (not too mention the episodes that were skipped). But between skipping episodes and the sudden removal with episodes remaining it looks like they might be cutting their losses with it. I'm not exactly crying over it but it's more than a little baffling to me considering Naruto ruled Hulu for years. Yet with DBZ Kai and Sailor Moon drum up interest still, Naruto doesn't seem to be doing it. I have always felt it was the odd man out due to the other two being significantly older looking and more associated with Toonami. I do recall some flack directed at them for including Naruto instead of another "classic" Toonami show but I didn't think that discourse would actually amount to people not rewatching such a beloved and iconic series. There's a good chance Sailor Moon will return early next year but it's a bit ambitious to expect a new deal to be made before the 2nd or 3rd week of January. Maybe they'll at least do some reruns starting in January. I don't know what would be worse at this point, for the DBZ Kai x 4 block to do better than Rewind has thus far or for it do badly and ultimately shelve Rewind faster. My minimal hope is they resume a regular line-up airing the remaining Naruto episodes (but even if they do that, they'll have left the viewers hanging for over a month so good luck getting them to come back), reruns of Sailor Moon (starting around where Jupiter is introduced or at least once Mercury is introduced) and whatever episodes of DBZ Kai they have to show. Then they get Sailor Moon R and swap out Naruto for something else if they're done with it. Gonna really suck if Naruto stops at episode 52 AGAIN (like in 2013 and 2014) though better than if it stops at 39 in the middle of the chunin prelims. Man... back in June Rewind seemed bursting in potential while Checkered Past was squandering what it had. Now it seems like the opposite at least to an extent. Though we'll never know how much better Rewind might have done airing daily as opposed to once a week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 41 minutes ago, Sketch said: I can't imagine they only bought 50 or 52 because that doesn't quite finish Freeza but they wouldn't have gotten precisely the amount to finish Freeza either so it was probably the original 98 episodes of Kai and they haven't reacquired the Buu saga yet. I'm not entirely ruling out they only got 50 or 52 but theoretically they planned on bringing back Kai even before Rewind was in the cards and were aiming to use it as 2 years of filler on Saturday Toonami since Naruto Shippuden was ending. Unlike Sailor Moon and Naruto, they're just using the tapes they already had and it's a deal with Toei not Viz so I think they just talked to Toei and got the okay to use those 98 tapes again for a modest fee. I guess we'll see what happens in January. If they had more than 50 episodes, they wouldn’t need to tweek the schedule like they are to include reruns of previous weeks episodes. Remember, this isn’t Kai’s first attempt at a rerun, they got burned on it back in 2019, so I wouldn’t put it past them to take the safe, experimental route and only grab roughly half the episodes for this trial period. I don’t believe they bought Kai for Saturday. The plan for Rewind was likely established early in the year, if not late 2023. Putting Kai on Saturday was just a lazy attempt at double dipping on a license because it’s DBZ. 46 minutes ago, Sketch said: I do recall some flack directed at them for including Naruto instead of another "classic" Toonami show but I didn't think that discourse would actually amount to people not rewatching such a beloved and iconic series. I don’t think Naruto was a first round draft pick for this block, but the problems they have with Crunchyroll and excessive costs of other more time appropriate options meant Naruto was the only choice. The most often suggested I see are YYH or some Gundam, both of which are off limits. I don’t think they could have picked a worse time for Naruto though. The same year Shippuden is about to leave and people are just about to breathe a sigh of relief that Naruto is off cable for the first time in 10+ years, and then they mess that up in the final stretch. Naruto fatigue is real, even if these episodes haven’t aired in a decade. 51 minutes ago, Sketch said: There's a good chance Sailor Moon will return early next year but it's a bit ambitious to expect a new deal to be made before the 2nd or 3rd week of January. Maybe they'll at least do some reruns starting in January. I think that’s all gonna depend on their year end meetings where they discuss what worked and what didn’t. The key issue discussed is did Sailor Moon and the other shows do significantly better than the free Checkered Past shows it replaced. If not, what’s the point? 52 minutes ago, Sketch said: Man... back in June Rewind seemed bursting in potential while Checkered Past was squandering what it had. Now it seems like the opposite at least to an extent. Though we'll never know how much better Rewind might have done airing daily as opposed to once a week. For those of us who understand the nature of Toonami viewers, we knew this block was doomed from the start. These people beg for these shows, but forget they are so long and most of the episodes kind of suck without the optimistic eyes of a child watching them. So interest quickly fades away. Reruns never ever ever ever work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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