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i'm wondering if I picked the wrong side on this gun issue


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Back in January I remember everyone saying a bunch of anti-gun stuff and that only neo-nazis and dumb rednecks would need to own guns in this day and age, I mean come on it's 2020 think of the school children. How fast that opinion changed. Check up with your local shooting range they should offer classes. You'll probably get a teacher wearing a MEGA hat, the only place I ever see those anymore are at the range or the gun store. Ask to shoot different calibers and models of the same caliber figure out which feels right for you. Ask questions about brands as well.

Also keep in mind that if you do shoot someone that you'll then have to defend that you were in the right to shoot them. You will most likely be detained in which case ask for your lawyer and remain silent until they arrive. Cops may try to milk a confession out of you or pin another homicide on you for no real reason. I stress that you should say nothing until the lawyer is there, because if you let slip that you had a chance to walk away and didn't take it, then you may have just given them evidence for a first degree manslaughter charge.  They'll ask you questions about your gun, when you bought it; why did you buy a gun, did you know this person you shot. They're pretty much fishing for a way to say you preemptively bought this gun for murder and that your attacker was innocent.  You go to court and they figure out if you are guilty or not guilty. Either way you're going to be stuck with court fees, these can sometimes go over $100k-$300k. Also there is the possibility that you are sued by your attackers family, this is more common if you killed someone robbing your store. Though this is all real shit that they neglect to tell people about self defense and gun ownership. It's set-up to work against the victims of assault. 

So yes own a gun but also know what you're getting into. The idea of self defense is that you're pretty much paying a shit ton of money to the court to not be dead. 

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26 minutes ago, HardcoreHunter said:

Back in January I remember everyone saying a bunch of anti-gun stuff and that only neo-nazis and dumb rednecks would need to own guns in this day and age, I mean come on it's 2020 think of the school children. How fast that opinion changed. Check up with your local shooting range they should offer classes. You'll probably get a teacher wearing a MEGA hat, the only place I ever see those anymore are at the range or the gun store. Ask to shoot different calibers and models of the same caliber figure out which feels right for you. Ask questions about brands as well.

Also keep in mind that if you do shoot someone that you'll then have to defend that you were in the right to shoot them. You will most likely be detained in which case ask for your lawyer and remain silent until they arrive. Cops may try to milk a confession out of you or pin another homicide on you for no real reason. I stress that you should say nothing until the lawyer is there, because if you let slip that you had a chance to walk away and didn't take it, then you may have just given them evidence for a first degree manslaughter charge.  They'll ask you questions about your gun, when you bought it; why did you buy a gun, did you know this person you shot. They're pretty much fishing for a way to say you preemptively bought this gun for murder and that your attacker was innocent.  You go to court and they figure out if you are guilty or not guilty. Either way you're going to be stuck with court fees, these can sometimes go over $100k-$300k. Also there is the possibility that you are sued by your attackers family, this is more common if you killed someone robbing your store. Though this is all real shit that they neglect to tell people about self defense and gun ownership. It's set-up to work against the victims of assault. 

So yes own a gun but also know what you're getting into. The idea of self defense is that you're pretty much paying a shit ton of money to the court to not be dead. 

 

so how many people have you shot?

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3 minutes ago, Mix said:

 

so how many people have you shot?

Haven't shot any humans myself knock on wood. 

Either way you should give your local shooting range a try. They have gun rentals, if nothing else it's good to familiarize yourself with firearms. The more you get used to guns the less anxiety you'll have over them. It's like when you were 15-16 driving a car for the first time. When you familiarize yourself with how it works it becomes mundane. I was raised around guns my whole life. My dad would even have me walk around with an unloaded shotgun while he hunted so I would learn how to properly hold the gun around people. You always need to be aware of where your muzzle is pointing. It's very easy to forget and just turn and suddenly you're pointing your gun at a human by mistake. Only ever point your gun at something you intend to kill was a lesson that was drilled into me growing up.  

Something that you might find of interest is less lethal alternatives; like plastic/rubber bullets. There will be a much greater chance of your attacker surviving. Using a less lethal alternative may also show the court that you were using your weapon purely for defensive reasons. Many attackers will stop attacking once shot by any firearm regardless of shot placement or caliber, simply due to the mental stress of being shot. Many people though would advocate against using less lethal weapons as they fell that if their lives are in danger that they should use more lethal means to ensure their own safety. To each their own. 

 

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