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2 minutes ago, mochi said:

Black folks have always been big anime fans

specifically DBZ and Naruto have HUGE black fanbases

 

DBZ I'm not so sure I understand why....but Naruto I can understand better since some of the Ninja's are Black and they're drawn in a surprisngly inoffensive looking way
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Kinda odd to say that they can only be interested in something if there is racial representation in it. Also when the cloud were villains through most of the series, and only showed in the final half of shippuden. I doubt many people picked up naurto at that point.  DBZ though is a real mystery the series just resonates with them for some reason. I went and saw the broly movie in theaters. The room was rather...urban and nobody seemed shy about talking to the characters on the screen if you get my meaning. Though it made the movie more fun to watch. Would have been annoyed though if it were a movie I was really invested in lol. 

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14 minutes ago, mochi said:

Funimation: Rock Lock is voice by an ACTUAL BLACK PERSON, aren't we progressive :D

Me: the way you said that feels like you're telling us you've never had any black voice actors before now? >_>

Funimation:
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Well, they are voice actors, they don't have to look like the characters they play.

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Just now, ben0119 said:

Well, they are voice actors, they don't have to look like the characters they play.

true but having none until now implies they were consciously turning away any black actors who auditioned until recently

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1 minute ago, mochi said:

true but having none until now implies they were consciously turning away any black actors who auditioned until recently

I WOULD say that in the beginning dubs were made in areas that weren't very black. But one of the founding places to do that was Manhattan, whichi s VERY urban.

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Just now, elfie said:

I WOULD say that in the beginning dubs were made in areas that weren't very black. But one of the founding places to do that was Manhattan, whichi s VERY urban.

on that note I'm pretty sure 4kids DID have black VA's....and a whole lot of gay ones

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1 hour ago, mochi said:

Black folks have always been big anime fans

specifically DBZ and Naruto have HUGE black fanbases

 

DBZ I'm not so sure I understand why....but Naruto I can understand better since some of the Ninja's are Black and they're drawn in a surprisngly inoffensive looking way
Image result for naruto Omoi

there have been a handful of treatises on why Dragon Ball has appealed to black kids. i think it's mainly because it was the first big mainstream TV anime to hit a huge audience in the states around the time our generation was growing up.

on twitter a while back, i wrote (to a pretty good reaction):

"Anime isn't as thematically sterile as mainstream Western kids' media. More shades of gray, real loss, getting back up after hard failures. Black kids know early that the world isn't as clean as white media tells us. Anime is the first thing that doesnt feel like a lie."

black kids have liked Naruto sine way before the cloud nins showed up. personally, i've alwys been kind of annoyed by them. i'd have preferred black characters to appear as being reasonably common in every ninja culture, rather than being clustered in one solitary country that ws first represented by a thickheaded rapper and a violent wrestler.

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2 hours ago, CorbeauKarasu said:

there have been a handful of treatises on why Dragon Ball has appealed to black kids. i think it's mainly because it was the first big mainstream TV anime to hit a huge audience in the states around the time our generation was growing up.

on twitter a while back, i wrote (to a pretty good reaction):

"Anime isn't as thematically sterile as mainstream Western kids' media. More shades of gray, real loss, getting back up after hard failures. Black kids know early that the world isn't as clean as white media tells us. Anime is the first thing that doesnt feel like a lie."

black kids have liked Naruto sine way before the cloud nins showed up. personally, i've alwys been kind of annoyed by them. i'd have preferred black characters to appear as being reasonably common in every ninja culture, rather than being clustered in one solitary country that ws first represented by a thickheaded rapper and a violent wrestler.

I grew up in near-poverty and nothing in DBZ really resonated with my situation. I say near because I wasn't homeless and 50 cent canned beans and animals you killed still counted as food. There were people in my parents biker gang that were far worse off, the one they called Rat lived under a bridge whenever he wasn't at meetings or doing jobs for the gang. Though for me Anime was just fun escapism; you'd get to enjoy something different. Though the black kids in my area were pretty well off. All white outfits brand new straight billed hats, would talk about the struggle when the only gun put in their face was on xbox live; but they really liked DBZ just like my trailer poor ass who was shot in the stomach as a teenager and stabbed in the arm on separate occasions. So I don't really think it has anything to do with the lot your were given in life as to why you'd like anime. Black people though seem to get a lot of motivation from it for some reason. Like they'll go to the gym and work out wearing DBZ stuff. There are wrestlers in the WWE who dressed up as them, there were rappers who would add Goku into lyrics. I agree that at the time Toonami really filled a slot in a lot of kids lives. However white people don't express their love for anime as openly when they become famous for some reason. With black people though it is only DBZ and Naruto 90% of the time. I feel like this should be a thing of study. 

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8 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

I grew up in near-poverty and nothing in DBZ really resonated with my situation. I say near because I wasn't homeless and 50 cent canned beans and animals you killed still counted as food. There were people in my parents biker gang that were far worse off, the one they called Rat lived under a bridge whenever he wasn't at meetings or doing jobs for the gang. Though for me Anime was just fun escapism; you'd get to enjoy something different. Though the black kids in my area were pretty well off. All white outfits brand new straight billed hats, would talk about the struggle when the only gun put in their face was on xbox live; but they really liked DBZ just like my trailer poor ass who was shot in the stomach as a teenager and stabbed in the arm on separate occasions. So I don't really think it has anything to do with the lot your were given in life as to why you'd like anime. Black people though seem to get a lot of motivation from it for some reason. Like they'll go to the gym and work out wearing DBZ stuff. There are wrestlers in the WWE who dressed up as them, there were rappers who would add Goku into lyrics. I agree that at the time Toonami really filled a slot in a lot of kids lives. However white people don't express their love for anime as openly when they become famous for some reason. With black people though it is only DBZ and Naruto 90% of the time. I feel like this should be a thing of study. 

Hmmmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AEQJZ_BzJk

 

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17 minutes ago, elfie said:

I think Goku going to earth was more of a rip off of Superman, more so since they did the retcon. I don't think officer black gets shafted that bad considering he's 2nd in command and not the lowest ranking RR Army member like the guy says. Also this guy really shouldn't have a youtube channel based on this video. He's very racist in his views of everything revolving around american influence of black culture. Black face didn't start in america it started in Europe. Even then there are still black masks and painting with exaggerated features like big red lips in Japan dating back to before the founding of America. His whole bit on Toriyama having tails removed to symbolize blacks being absorbed into civilized culture is idiotic. Toriyama even said that he just got tired of drawing them because he had ocd over how they'd wear pants. Which is dumb in itself considering not long after he'd have stretchy armor that could fit any size body. I also get annoyed when he's like "don't tell me I'm wrong white people". You're fucking wrong man what the hell can I say? Popo was based on a genie,  The main story was based on Journey to the west and later superman, Black was 2nd in command of the army, tails were removed because of ocd and had nothing to do with black culture, the Muhammad Ali fight had nothing to do with Goku vs Frieza, and I could go on. He even tries to use Funimation subs as grounds for popo being a racist depiction....He knows nothing of localization! The subs don't fully reflect what a character is saying, the japanese don't use american slang. Funimation does because they get lazy at times, and think it sounds more natural when it only sometimes does but they go overboard with it. Popo originally had an elderly Yakuza voice which would be like the Godfather or Sopranos. He spoke slowly and was authoritative. Ocean and Funimation gave him a more east african voice because he looked east african since he was based on a genie. I bet he'd be surprised to learn that Jeice doesn't have an Australian accent in Japan, and nothing about his character was inspired by Australia. Like Chu from YuYu Hakusho, that guy didn't have an Australian accent either. 

I just hate these types of people who do videos. It's like feminists who try to point out misogyny in characters. I'd like to hear actual people's opinions on these kinds of things, not people with agendas and mental disorders that make them see their boogeyman everywhere they look. A black person saying that an anime has culturally appropriated their culture tells me that something; somewhere in their education went wrong. They were taught this seeking behavior to find their culture being used in america, and can't seem to turn it off when observing anything. He even goes on a sports and music rant about how rock was stolen from black people, and boxing was stolen from black people. I disagree with both of those. Rock was started as a fusion of Bluegrass, Country, Folk, Jazz, and Blues. Black culture did contribute to it, but they did not invent early rock which later became rock n roll which evolved into metal and punk and alt rock etc. Boxing in terms of rules was invented in england, it raised in popularity in America after it was outlawed in England. Black boxers didn't even start making a splash in the sport until the 1960s. The idiot probably also thinks that basket ball is a black sport when it was invented by a white guy for women, but then was segregated to a white male only sport.  There wasn't even an integrated team until the 50s. 

What I'd actually like to hear is just real fans opinions, not someone who just got their A+ on their sociology college report. A fan who can honestly say what their life was like when they found anime, and not sugar coating in hindsight what that subconsciously meant to them. What did they enjoy in it in that very moment is what I want to know. I can look at this guy and tell he thought none of this when he was 8-11 years old watching DBZ. He wasn't thinking about the cultural symbolism. I know for a fact the ass hat didn't turn the show off when mr. popo came on. He didn't say "oh wow dad the saiyans having their tails cut off is just like what happened to the rape of our people and taking away our heritage upon being assimilated into a white dominated society from our glorious homeland that is so great and amazing that we'll never have a real desire to go back and live in a mud hut; but I'll still dress in the same clothes as the black slave traders who sold us to the americans, or the french, but it doesn't mater because white people are all the same right dad" Before his mom belts him in the head and tells him to turn off that damn slant eyed speed racer jap shit and go outside and play. Is it really impossible to get real opinions from anitubbers?  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, HardcoreHunter said:

I think Goku going to earth was more of a rip off of Superman, more so since they did the retcon. I don't think officer black gets shafted that bad considering he's 2nd in command and not the lowest ranking RR Army member like the guy says. Also this guy really shouldn't have a youtube channel based on this video. He's very racist in his views of everything revolving around american influence of black culture. Black face didn't start in america it started in Europe. Even then there are still black masks and painting with exaggerated features like big red lips in Japan dating back to before the founding of America. His whole bit on Toriyama having tails removed to symbolize blacks being absorbed into civilized culture is idiotic. Toriyama even said that he just got tired of drawing them because he had ocd over how they'd wear pants. Which is dumb in itself considering not long after he'd have stretchy armor that could fit any size body. I also get annoyed when he's like "don't tell me I'm wrong white people". You're fucking wrong man what the hell can I say? Popo was based on a genie,  The main story was based on Journey to the west and later superman, Black was 2nd in command of the army, tails were removed because of ocd and had nothing to do with black culture, the Muhammad Ali fight had nothing to do with Goku vs Frieza, and I could go on. He even tries to use Funimation subs as grounds for popo being a racist depiction....He knows nothing of localization! The subs don't fully reflect what a character is saying, the japanese don't use american slang. Funimation does because they get lazy at times, and think it sounds more natural when it only sometimes does but they go overboard with it. Popo originally had an elderly Yakuza voice which would be like the Godfather or Sopranos. He spoke slowly and was authoritative. Ocean and Funimation gave him a more east african voice because he looked east african since he was based on a genie. I bet he'd be surprised to learn that Jeice doesn't have an Australian accent in Japan, and nothing about his character was inspired by Australia. Like Chu from YuYu Hakusho, that guy didn't have an Australian accent either. 

I just hate these types of people who do videos. It's like feminists who try to point out misogyny in characters. I'd like to hear actual people's opinions on these kinds of things, not people with agendas and mental disorders that make them see their boogeyman everywhere they look. A black person saying that an anime has culturally appropriated their culture tells me that something; somewhere in their education went wrong. They were taught this seeking behavior to find their culture being used in america, and can't seem to turn it off when observing anything. He even goes on a sports and music rant about how rock was stolen from black people, and boxing was stolen from black people. I disagree with both of those. Rock was started as a fusion of Bluegrass, Country, Folk, Jazz, and Blues. Black culture did contribute to it, but they did not invent early rock which later became rock n roll which evolved into metal and punk and alt rock etc. Boxing in terms of rules was invented in england, it raised in popularity in America after it was outlawed in England. Black boxers didn't even start making a splash in the sport until the 1960s. The idiot probably also thinks that basket ball is a black sport when it was invented by a white guy for women, but then was segregated to a white male only sport.  There wasn't even an integrated team until the 50s. 

What I'd actually like to hear is just real fans opinions, not someone who just got their A+ on their sociology college report. A fan who can honestly say what their life was like when they found anime, and not sugar coating in hindsight what that subconsciously meant to them. What did they enjoy in it in that very moment is what I want to know. I can look at this guy and tell he thought none of this when he was 8-11 years old watching DBZ. He wasn't thinking about the cultural symbolism. I know for a fact the ass hat didn't turn the show off when mr. popo came on. He didn't say "oh wow dad the saiyans having their tails cut off is just like what happened to the rape of our people and taking away our heritage upon being assimilated into a white dominated society from our glorious homeland that is so great and amazing that we'll never have a real desire to go back and live in a mud hut; but I'll still dress in the same clothes as the black slave traders who sold us to the americans, or the french, but it doesn't mater because white people are all the same right dad" Before his mom belts him in the head and tells him to turn off that damn slant eyed speed racer jap shit and go outside and play. Is it really impossible to get real opinions from anitubbers?  

 

 

.... well that's odd considering this youtube channel is owned and run by Channel Frederator, a legit animation company likewise owned by a corporation.

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1 minute ago, elfie said:

.... well that's odd considering this youtube channel is owned and run by Channel Frederator, a legit animation company likewise owned by a corporation.

Doesn't mean that guy knows what he's talking about. How often have you watched a Frederator anime? It would be like saying Walt Disney would have known how to localize something by Tezuka because they both were animators. Frederator is known for their nicktoons and early cartoon network shows, they have never had a localization team like ADV, Sentai, Funimation, Ocean etc. So it doesn't strike me as odd that the guy they have talking in the video has no idea what he's talking about. Really I got the vibe that he didn't even watch the series in full. They were like here are some highlight episodes, make a review about race. He didn't know that Trunks and Goten had their tails removed at birth, he thought that all saiyns had their tails forcefully removed and humanized as part of their slavery. He didn't know if the Saiyans were slaves sold off to earth, or that their home world was destroyed; so he had no idea how Frieza's army worked which would only happen if he never really watched the show and only watched highlights given to him for the review. 

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On 1/25/2020 at 9:50 PM, HardcoreHunter said:

I feel like this was said in a doujin. Though unless you go with porn physics where people can cum like a fire hose it wouldn't work with her Quirk. She has to drink 1cup of blood to fully use her quirk. 1 cup in terms of loads would be like 8x to 16x the average load size. 

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Ok, I feel like an asshole prevert for even posting this, but follow me here...

So theoretically, she could bang the hell out of a guy, let him cum in her, then flowback into a cup like 8-10 times, then try to swallow that to activate her quirk?

Ah, but it would be dumb to try that, plus too much risk of getting pregnant instead if not on the pill.

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On 1/25/2020 at 10:19 PM, HardcoreHunter said:

I also think more black people have become interested in Anime and Voice acting; they love DBZ even if they don't watch anything else, it's strange at times. 

The catalyst in this is probably none other than Toonami! You'll never see this in a ratings report, but a large portion of Toonami's audience is Black! There's a link between anime and hip hop that Toonami is almost exclusively responsible for forming, and of course it also led to works like Samurai Champloo, which is why it was great that Toonami finally brought it home in 2016!

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On 1/27/2020 at 11:53 PM, OwlChemist81 said:

Ok, I feel like an asshole prevert for even posting this, but follow me here...

So theoretically, she could bang the hell out of a guy, let him cum in her, then flowback into a cup like 8-10 times, then try to swallow that to activate her quirk?

Ah, but it would be dumb to try that, plus too much risk of getting pregnant instead if not on the pill.

And I thought what I wrote was bad.

Well, Toga could store amounts from various "rounds" and put it in a cup in the fridge, and then guzzle it down?

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