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This is what you should believe, because it is true:

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Time exists and disproves free will. It's sorta fucked up but I've put a lot of thought into it. We'll start by defining time as the 4th dimension. A single dimension is a line; there is forwards and backwards. Copy and rotate this line 90 degrees to form another dimension; you now have a 2 dimensional plane with length and width. Copying and rotating this plane 90 degrees created a 3-dimensional cube; what we're used to. Now, what do you suppose happens when you copy and rotate 3 dimensional reality to a 90 degree angle of itself? You got yourself a hypercube. Now we can't see a 4-dimensional hypercube, but we can see its 3-dimensional shadow. Imagine you can't see 3-dimensionally, but are only able to perceive 2 dimensions. You couldn't see a person, but you could see their shadow because it has no depth. So time, therefore, represents the fourth dimension; three dimensional space along a continuum. So that's time. On to free will. Let's do an experiment: in 5 seconds, put your hand where your hand won't be in five seconds. You can't. Your hand is where it is. Your hand five seconds from now is where your hand will be. You can't alter the place of things in the future any more than you can alter the place of things in the past. The present doesn't exist. To borrow a quote without remembering the source: "We experience the present by observing the past, thereby we march backwards into the future." Everything that is currently happening happened. Point to a moment that is now, and you will find yourself pointing to the past. To get entirely scientific, however (and this is the part that really gets me excited) our objective experience in all of this is absolutely nothing. The colors we see are a hallucination caused by chemicals in our brains reacting to photons being collected by the specialized chains of proteins and amino acids which make up the thing we call our eyeball. Human consciousness is simply the result of chemicals interacting. All things are the result of chemicals reacting. Everything; the stars, the planets, you, me, turkeys, boats, hamburgers, smartphones, chewing gum, wombats, mold... one giant chemical chain reaction. I am the air around me, the air is me. There is no boundary between the molecules of myself and the molecules of the universe around me. I am all; We are all.

 

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I didn't watch the video, but I find myself debating the existence of god with idiots constantly. Most die hard christians regardless of intelligence can't seem to fathom the definition of the word athiest... which only really means "no faith". They like to debate with atheists over whether or not god exists when...by their nature  atheists don't really give a fuck if god exists or not. Atheists just refuse to take perposterous soundings stories on faith with no proof aside from what a guy with ordained magical powers says is proof because it's in his little magical book that's been cut up and repurposed hundreds of times over the centuries for the purpose of translation if nothing else..

Meh. I have to identify as an atheist if you can't tell by the way...  To avoid rambling on in summary I think it's pretty funny to see some of the most pious and devout christians...ministers, preachers, and priests included try to say the burden of proof falls on atheists. I've heard so many preachers spew the same rhetoric with different words....but when you think about it all they're really saying is  "well if god doesn't exist proove it!"." I don't need to prove he exists that's not how this works.." 🤔

Any atempt at a debate between the religous and atheists is just destined for failure by nature though I guess. *shrugs*

 

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14 hours ago, PhilosipherStoned said:

I didn't watch the video, but I find myself debating the existence of god with idiots constantly. Most die hard christians regardless of intelligence can't seem to fathom the definition of the word athiest... which only really means "no faith". They like to debate with atheists over whether or not god exists when...by their nature  atheists don't really give a fuck if god exists or not. Atheists just refuse to take perposterous soundings stories on faith with no proof aside from what a guy with ordained magical powers says is proof because it's in his little magical book that's been cut up and repurposed hundreds of times over the centuries for the purpose of translation if nothing else..

Meh. I have to identify as an atheist if you can't tell by the way...  To avoid rambling on in summary I think it's pretty funny to see some of the most pious and devout christians...ministers, preachers, and priests included try to say the burden of proof falls on atheists. I've heard so many preachers spew the same rhetoric with different words....but when you think about it all they're really saying is  "well if god doesn't exist proove it!"." I don't need to prove he exists that's not how this works.." 🤔

Any atempt at a debate between the religous and atheists is just destined for failure by nature though I guess. *shrugs*

 

Why waste time and energy debating? Just respect their beliefs or lack thereof and move on

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I don't waste time debating with anybody atm they just provide me with entertainment. That particular debate is getting more than laughably one sided is my point. All an athiest gets to use...ever is basically their own logic and reasoning of course. The fun is in the rebuttles from the christian side. Half of the time when you listen to someone argue the exsistence of god it's like they use the chance to try and reinforce their own wavering beliefs. 

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