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8 minutes ago, Athena Ninety-two said:

...Half a fucking hour before my shift was supposed to end.

Fuck this place seriously. The fact that I need money is literally the only thing keeping me from just quitting. 

Just Over Broke.

There's millions of people in the same boat as you right now.

Jumping ship is a terrifying prospect, especially when more favorable conditions aren't in sight.

Whether you take the plunge or hold out, I wish you the best.

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18 minutes ago, Athena Ninety-two said:

...Half a fucking hour before my shift was supposed to end.

Fuck this place seriously. The fact that I need money is literally the only thing keeping me from just quitting. 

Wow, what's with people having shitty scheduling lately.

You would have been within your rights to tell them you had an appointment and wouldn't be able to work that shift.

 

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6 minutes ago, pail said:

Just Over Broke.

There's millions of people in the same boat as you right now.

Jumping ship is a terrifying prospect, especially when more favorable conditions aren't in sight.

Whether you take the plunge or hold out, I wish you the best.

I mean I literally have enough in savings to last me one month before I'm homeless so that's not an option. Been trying hard to find a new job but no offers yet. 

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Just now, Ginguy said:

Wow, what's with people having shitty scheduling lately.

You would have been within your rights to tell them you had an appointment and wouldn't be able to work that shift.

 

It's probably just coincidence but I was talking with a friend about this earlier today.

How employers are more Ebenezer Scrooge-ish than ever, at least subjectively it seems.

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1 minute ago, Ginguy said:

Wow, what's with people having shitty scheduling lately.

You would have been within your rights to tell them you had an appointment and wouldn't be able to work that shift.

 

It's so inconsistent too. One day there will be 0 overtime and even tons of extra people on a shift. Then the next boom 40+ combined hours of overtime. 

Legally yes but then my employer would be within their rights to terminate me. 

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2 minutes ago, Athena Ninety-two said:

I mean I literally have enough in savings to last me one month before I'm homeless so that's not an option. Been trying hard to find a new job but no offers yet. 

I'm not saying you should do one or the other. Just the fact that those are the only two feasible options for most people caught in this trap.

Hope something better comes along for you.

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7 minutes ago, pail said:

It's probably just coincidence but I was talking with a friend about this earlier today.

How employers are more Ebenezer Scrooge-ish than ever, at least subjectively it seems.

I haven't noticed it really, but the pressure will intensify for me as things proceed into the elections. I think part of it is younger people are not used to having to work for others or meet scheduling demands that are not ideally suited to them. They soft, and used to being coddled, and the real world isn't like that. Real world is shit gotta get done, go do it or I'll find someone who can. I have noticed that when I'm teamed with recent grads who seem to schedule all kinds of extraneous shit like they are still in school, and leave the work to me. That lasts exactly one time, at which I give them the same speech; "I'm being paid to get this done, when I report in I will report that I got the job done." They either pick up on the message or they don't.

 

I want to be clear, I don't include Athena, or you Bucket, in this generalization. Both of you work way too hard.

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Just now, pail said:

I'm not saying you should do one or the other. Just the fact that those are the only two feasible options for most people caught in this trap.

Hope something better comes along for you.

I hope so too. Had a great interview on Friday but they decided to go with someone more qualified. But they did say they may have another similar position coming open soon that I'd be more qualified for. We'll see if that goes anywhere. 

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4 minutes ago, Athena Ninety-two said:

It's so inconsistent too. One day there will be 0 overtime and even tons of extra people on a shift. Then the next boom 40+ combined hours of overtime. 

Legally yes but then my employer would be within their rights to terminate me. 

Really?

Your employer can mandate OT with no notice? You need a better contract hun.

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5 minutes ago, pail said:

It's probably just coincidence but I was talking with a friend about this earlier today.

How employers are more Ebenezer Scrooge-ish than ever, at least subjectively it seems.

my job is m-f and the latest shift gets off at 630pm

 

we have a 7 point system ...3 tardies is one point...missing a whole day is 1 to 1.75 points. so our schedule is extremely flexible.

find a better job.

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Just now, Ginguy said:

Really?

Your employer can mandate OT with no notice? You need a better contract hun.

I work at a 24/7 facility so someone always needs to be here. If they don't have the volunteers, they have to mandate people starting with the least senior people. But yeah they could find a better fucking way to do it. 

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Just now, fuggnificent said:

my job is m-f and the latest shift gets off at 630pm

 

we have a 7 point system ...3 tardies is one point...missing a whole day is 1 to 1.75 points. so our schedule is extremely flexible.

find a better job.

Find a better job? Wowie I never thought of that thank you so much. 

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Just now, Athena Ninety-two said:

I work at a 24/7 facility so someone always needs to be here. If they don't have the volunteers, they have to mandate people starting with the least senior people. But yeah they could find a better fucking way to do it. 

Gee it's a good thing it wasn't a doctor's appointment or anything important.

Still sucks, but at least you are getting positive interviews. Keep on chugging, everyone has to put in their time in the trenches.

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1 minute ago, Ginguy said:

Gee it's a good thing it wasn't a doctor's appointment or anything important.

Still sucks, but at least you are getting positive interviews. Keep on chugging, everyone has to put in their time in the trenches.

I feel bad for the people who have kids. 

Hopefully something comes along soon. 

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10 minutes ago, Ginguy said:

I haven't noticed it really, but the pressure will intensify for me as things proceed into the elections. I think part of it is younger people are not used to having to work for others or meet scheduling demands that are not ideally suited to them. They soft, and used to being coddled, and the real world isn't like that. Real world is shit gotta get done, go do it or I'll find someone who can. I have noticed that when I'm teamed with recent grads who seem to schedule all kinds of extraneous shit like they are still in school, and leave the work to me. That lasts exactly one time, at which I give them the same speech; "I'm being paid to get this done, when I report in I will report that I got the job done." They either pick up on the message or they don't.

Maybe.

I was talking more along the lines of people who do work hard getting shafted left and right.

Like at my job I know I'm pretty much expendable and they could replace me at any time... but I still work as hard as I can. I don't give it 110% usually because as a "bottom feeder" or "grunt" or whatever I don't really get any respect or recognition for what I do.

Not that it's owed to me for doing my job correctly and efficiently but... it would just be kinda nice to not get treated like an expendable tool all of the time.

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2 minutes ago, Athena Ninety-two said:

So apparently I'm not mandated and I'm not on the breakdown for third shift and they have coverage but I can't leave just yet for some reason. 

I hate when management wastes your time like that.

It's like... "You're the manager. Fucking manage shit buttwipe!'

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40 minutes ago, Athena Ninety-two said:

So apparently I'm not mandated and I'm not on the breakdown for third shift and they have coverage but I can't leave just yet for some reason. 

Do they know you are out interviewing?

It seems like they are fucking with you to get you to quit at this point.

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1 minute ago, Ginguy said:

 

It seems like they are fucking with you to get you to quit at this point.

Could just be incompetence, too.

There are a staggering amount of people who are designated with management positions... that are simply not qualified or capable of what that specific role entails.

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39 minutes ago, pail said:

I hate when management wastes your time like that.

It's like... "You're the manager. Fucking manage shit buttwipe!'

Yeah like I'm glad I didn't have to work 3rd and that I got paid to dick around on my phone a bit longer but I would have rather left at 9:30 instead of 10:18

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4 minutes ago, Ginguy said:

Do they know you are out interviewing?

It seems like they are fucking with you to get you to quit at this point.

No way they'd know. I work non-traditional hours so I can easily interview on off days or before work so I don't know how they'd even really suspect, other than just knowing there's high turnover in general.

Nah they do this shit to everyone. One of my coworkers once got told he had to stay for 3rd shift, then told he didn't, then told never mind yes you need to stay. Things were really bad back in July and August to the point that I'd be pulling 50-55 hour weeks on a regular basis, it's been better lately now that they have more staff

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1 minute ago, Athena Ninety-two said:

No way they'd know. I work non-traditional hours so I can easily interview on off days or before work so I don't know how they'd even really suspect, other than just knowing there's high turnover in general.

Nah they do this shit to everyone. One of my coworkers once got told he had to stay for 3rd shift, then told he didn't, then told never mind yes you need to stay. Things were really bad back in July and August to the point that I'd be pulling 50-55 hour weeks on a regular basis, it's been better lately now that they have more staff

Yeah, that shit sucks.

Have you ever been told you can go and are either on your way home, or actually home... Then they call you back in?

That's happened to me a few times... Makes me madder than Hell.

Worse than being sent home after being told to come in, even.

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1 minute ago, pail said:

Yeah, that shit sucks.

Have you ever been told you can go and are either on your way home, or actually home... Then they call you back in?

That's happened to me a few times... Makes me madder than Hell.

Worse than being sent home after being told to come in, even.

Not quite that bad. Once you clock out here you have no obligation to come in. They may call you to see if you want to come in but you don't have to answer and don't have to say yes if they don't have any availability in the area you want to work.

If you're on the clock though it's fair game as long as you don't go over 16 hours in a day. I've been mandated and had to actually stay before when they called me half an hour before my shift was supposed to end.

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So I was able to go after all.

Interview went okay. Not my best but not my worst. Pay would be kinda shit tho. They said it starts at 24k a year (salaried) but I may be able to get a little more since I have experience in the field. Plus I could get an extra $15/hr if I choose to work breaks (It's in a school setting. Think where Zeni supposedly works. It's like that). Would still probably be a bit lower than I need. But if they call me in for a second round interview I'll probably go.

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17 hours ago, pail said:

Yeah, that shit sucks.

Have you ever been told you can go and are either on your way home, or actually home... Then they call you back in?

That's happened to me a few times... Makes me madder than Hell.

Worse than being sent home after being told to come in, even.

Why do y'all answer the phone when y'all's shitty jobs call you off the clock? I don't understand that.

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18 hours ago, Ginguy said:

I haven't noticed it really, but the pressure will intensify for me as things proceed into the elections. I think part of it is younger people are not used to having to work for others or meet scheduling demands that are not ideally suited to them. They soft, and used to being coddled, and the real world isn't like that. Real world is shit gotta get done, go do it or I'll find someone who can. I have noticed that when I'm teamed with recent grads who seem to schedule all kinds of extraneous shit like they are still in school, and leave the work to me. That lasts exactly one time, at which I give them the same speech; "I'm being paid to get this done, when I report in I will report that I got the job done." They either pick up on the message or they don't.

 

I want to be clear, I don't include Athena, or you Bucket, in this generalization. Both of you work way too hard.

Yeah, but that's only because someone decided at one point that the real world also meant understaffing to save some money.  I can only speak for my own company, but keeping employees happy by not forcing them to work endless amounts of overtime makes for more productive workers.  I don't like having to be available 24/7 for our clients, but I'd much rather do that and then make sure my guys are rested enough to get the job done and  keep my clients happy.  In fact, we recently changed from hourly to salary so that we could better insure that our guys get what they needed done in the 40 hour work week.  What I've noticed more than anything is that employers in general have done an incredibly bad job of scheduling - they don't plan out weeks in advance when they can, and they end up having guys not get work done in a timely manner because they're not getting to the job when they're supposed to.  It's always been somewhat a problem in my industry, but it has definitely gotten worse and I also see it in other industries.

 

That being said, I'm assuming when you're talking about scheduling stuff, you mean scheduling stuff during the workday.

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