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My exact words in the first paragraph. "You advocate for an unpaid suspension for being arrested and charged with this crime" So I'm not sure why you would say I didn't read what you wrote, I did state your opinion on the subject accurately yes? Would it have made you feel better if I added the qualifier "almost" to the sentence in the third paragraph? But this is just quibbling over semantics at this point. You advocate for immediate punishment for being accused of any crime towards women, regardless of circumstance. That fair? I think my position is pretty reasonable. We don't find him guilty of things we don't have any evidence for. He's not Cosby, Weinstein or Vic. We don't have dozens, (or in Vic's case hundreds) of people speaking out against this guy, at least not yet. We have some really bad DM's from 7 years ago, and a tweet saying that he's not allowed in the writers room due to constant sexual misconduct. Either one could be grounds for firing. But they apparently knew about this for years and were fine with it, and covered it up. We have zero evidence on the worst charges, abuse and false imprisonment. That's the serious stuff he faces years in prison for. That's the charge that was apparently a bridge too far for them and resulted in him being fired and basically losing all his IP's and having his life ruined. The fact that he's a creepy weirdo who can't control himself would seem to point to him being guilty in this as well, but can we see any evidence before we ruin a persons life? I'm not even asking people to wait for the trial, just actual evidence. Gross tweets from 7 years ago doesn't automatically mean he's guilty of all the other stuff, it just doesn't speak highly in his favor. It seems like we've found an end run around presumption of innocence and due process, where we ruin peoples lives first, and wait for evidence later. I'm not a fan.

It's not a weird tangent. Roiland was accused and arrested of a serious crime and people want him fired and his IP taken away. What evidence is currently available to the public that he's guilty of the violence and false imprisonment? None that I've seen. The fact that other stuff has come out now that shows that the firing was justified and should have happened long ago isn't the point. People were calling for his head over a case where the court documents are sealed and there's a anonymous accuser. The 49er's player was arrested and accused of misdemeanor domestic violence. Supposedly he pushed his gf and she fell over. She suffered no visible injuries and refused medical attention. Did he do it? Yeah probably. But maybe he didn't. You advocate for an unpaid suspension for being arrested and charged with this crime, which I would only agree with if there was say, video of him doing it, or at least an eye witness. That stuff that we require in courts... evidence. The team stated that they would let the legal process play out before presuming guilt and handing out punishments and I think that's fair. You seem to want a system where anyone accused of anything is found guilty in the court of public opinion, fired, and has all their stuff taken away. We set up our legal system the exact opposite way for a reason. Due process, presumption of innocence. I wonder if there have ever been any times when the court of public opinion and the media got it horribly wrong?

I've never been accused of anything, but the guy that trained me for my current job was. He reported a woman for sleeping on the job so she retaliated by claiming that he touched her butt. They did an investigation and found nothing, and no action was taken. But, he said you do have to watch out for retaliation when you report people. And you kind of prove my point. Shitty people like you are wayyyy too fast to throw out accusations with absolutely zero evidence. It's some weird kind of mob mentality that makes you feel virtuous.

That was about the 49er. Should everyone accused of a crime be fired? The teams response seems fair unless there's some longstanding pattern of that kind of behavior. I believe that people accused of stuff like that generally did it, about 99 percent of the time. In light of the reveal that Roiland wasn't even allowed in the writers room due to being a maniac and WB apparently covering up years of misconduct, he should have been canned years ago. But I'm against Twitter mobs panicking companies into ruining peoples lives before they have any evidence. In this particular case the actual crime he's being fired for involved sealed court documents and an anonymous accuser. The fact that he's probably extremely guilty of everything that everyone has said doesn't mean people shouldn't wait a few days for actual evidence before grabbing their pitchforks.

Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist. He was sentenced to 6 years in prison and served 3. Should he have had a show? Being accused of a crime anonymously with sealed records so no one knows what the facts are should never be grounds for being fired or canceled. Being a maniac that isn't allowed in the writers room of his own show because he's an out of control sexual harassment nut is definitely grounds for being fired.

Money doesn't help ya much if you're in prison. And he'll probably face a number of civil suits that eat up a good chunk of that. But he'll probably still end up richer than most people.

"Squanch Games' narrative designer has shared their understanding of Rick and Morty co-creator Justin Roiland's creative involvement with the show in the years leading up to his recent firing from Adult Swim. On Twitter, Alec Robbins -- who wrote High on Life, the video game created by Roiland -- responded to Elon Musk's claim that the Roiland is "the heart" of Rick and Morty. "[T]o my knowledge, [J]ustin's only real creative involvement with [Rick and Morty] since probably eason 3 is that he recorded the voices from his own basement. 'm told he wasn't welcome in the writers['] room because of multiple covered-up internal WB investigations re: sexual misconduct." If by did an internal investigation you mean "Already knew about this stuff and covered it up for years" then you are correct sir! Apparently he was such a maniac he couldn't keep it together enough to be allowed in the writers room. So he wasn't fired over old tweets and these charges were just the last straw.

So what's your standard? He's been arrested and accused of a crime. Should he be fired?

Well if he was leaving a Roger Ailes style trail of sexual harassment and weirdness behind him, he really should have already been fired. The timing makes it pretty clear they're firing him over charges where no one knows what the evidence is. In other I DUN FUCKED UP news.... SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Following his Monday arrest on suspicion of misdemeanor domestic violence, San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Charles Omenihu will remain with the team and continue preparing for Sunday's NFC Championship Game, coach Kyle Shanahan said Wednesday. Shanahan added that the Niners spent the past couple of days looking into what happened with Omenihu and concluded that the best way of handling it is to let the legal process play out before making further decisions. "We feel very good letting the legal process take care of itself. And don't feel we should kick him off our team at this time," Shanahan said.

The evidence has been sealed and the person accusing him is anonymous. The only evidence they should have is his dirty tweets, which are unrelated but probably grounds for a firing. Kobe Bryant faced Felony sexual assault and the criminal case against him was dropped after a year. From what we know so far there was way more evidence in that case than this one. Don't get me wrong he's probably guilty as hell, but this case lacks the usual transparency we typically see before we cancel someone and ruin their life.

Yeah but.. an internal investigation somehow determines guilt over say, court? Now if this was an OJ situation where everyone on Earth knew the guy did it, then yeah you can forgo the trial and just fire him. But what's the evidence here? Is it all he said she said? He said she said isn't good enough to fire someone unless it's an overwhelming amount of people coming forward like say... Bill Cosby.

Not entirely sure I agree with the decision, do we just fire anyone who gets accused of anything? Is the evidence strong?

Well hey, none of those characters are in Velma!

They haven't offered enough money yet =P

Nah it'll be fine

I feel like this season spent too much time with these freaks =P

Laser eye guy could have prevented all of this by putting a laser through Shiguraki's skull but noooo

Look at those characters and Hidden Leaf Village... and then remember that their world has computers and internet.

Whoa hey One Piece is bad but you don't have to say stuff like that just because he likes it!

Oof, yeah I kinda agree with him. It would have been weird seeing a Hamil Joker play off a non Conroy Batman.

Oh yeah I forgot about this one from Harmon!

Hey, wanna see a video from the other creator of Rick and Morty?? Age restricted watch on Youtube.

Yup, they're ridin this one out! They're gonna pay off some people and everything will be fine. Violence against women isn't taken very seriously by the world in general. If it was we'd have to get rid of half of the NFL. WOWOW cheap shot.

Attack on Titan Final Season 3 will debut March 4, will be split in two halves, will end badly. I fixed that title up for ya.

"The premier of season six was shown on September 4, 2022, and saw the highest ratings in telecast for women age 18 to 24 and 18 to 34 and non-sports telecast for male viewers age 18 to 24 and 18 to 34. The episode was also the number two most-viewed non-sports program overall for viewers age 18 to 49." Plus it sells merch. If you sell merch you get rich. They'll cut her a check.