I had a Toshiba satellite laptop as my first computer, and I completely thrashed it for years learning a bunch of shit the hard way fucking around with sketchy programs, and running games most people wouldn't want to play on a laptop. Still that thing lasted me at least 7 years. It had good parts for the time, the latest windows, a decent web cam and everything. I don't feel Toshiba laptops are that bad, but there's a lot of other brands and designs I'd prefer over their laptops that being said.