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Dammit Demarco, why the hell did we have to wait so long for this reveal? Honestly it feels like no one is in the drivers seat these days. Whoever is in charge of making the MiA promos does not work under Demarco. They just crank them out, and apparently were not informed that MiA wasn’t airing this week. If this doesn’t lead into S6 the following week the outrage will be unimaginable.

Usually if you don’t see something on the first commercial break, there won’t be one. And surprise reveals have always been a rarity. I’d assume whatever they are working on is not ready to reveal. And with the holiday weekend coming in hot, I wouldn’t be surprised if Monday afternoon they announce a stall schedule.

It may not be a huge one, but Toonami is still competition. CR seems to want to control as much of the western anime market as possible. What they aren’t able to buy, they will just wipe out of existence.

The normal schedule was absolutely not what I was expecting. But I welcome it with open arms. This means one of two things will happen. The lack of announced schedule implies they are willing to take whatever pickup they have on deck as close to the wire as possible. With the holiday weekend coming up, I’d say Tuesday would be the latest something could happen. If they can’t do the deal, they will start stall tactics. Luckily for them, One Piece is waiting in the wings.

You people have completely derailed the original discussion, which was theorizing what they are going marathon for 11/26. My personal opinions don’t matter here in the slightest. I made a simple statement about why out of all available options, Yashahime may not be high on the list, and people lost their minds. I also said Bebop would likely not be one of their choices and gave a reason, yet nobody got hysterical over that for some reason. I don’t really care which show they opt for, if it’s a rerun, I’m taking the night off as I usually do. If it’s Batman as some are suggesting, I’ll stick around. My only point this entire time has been the simple fact that Yashahime is a poor ratings draw, and thus a less desirable choice by the staff when they have multiple options that would be received better. It has absolutely nothing to do with my personal opinion of the show. If I loved Yashahime I’d share the exact same opinion that it would be one of the last choices they opt for.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I’m sorry you took offense to my suspicion that Uzumaki isn’t actually being worked on. That’s not even a dig at Demarco, it’s a dig at the studio that is “working” on Uzumaki. I’m hardly bitching about ratings. I pointed out a 100% factual assessment that Toonami viewers dislike Yashahime based on the fact that almost every single week it loses a huge portion of the audience, and even has more than one occurrence of shows after it gaining viewers, and how that fact may influence the crews choice to marathon the show, and two of you went insane. I think the issue here is we have a couple of Yashahime fans taking offense to the reality that their favorite show makes the audience tune out in droves.

Honestly it’s wasteful to air it any other month but October, but I do wonder if the excessive delays may end up forcing their hand to air it immediately when ready. I suppose, the studio could be “working on it” till fall 2023 if they wanted to help us out with justification not to air it till the appropriate time. We hope that is what they are doing at least. After this many years with only a single piece of teaser footage, they could be snorting coke off hookers asses, all on Adult Swim’s dime.

Ok, now point out where I explicitly said it’s a bad show. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely believe that it is, however prior to right now I never used “it’s a bad show” as a reason not to marathon it. My reason was “it’s viewer repellent” which it factually is based on ratings metrics. Waiting longer doesn’t necessarily mean the Toonami version will be worth a crap either. If anything, it greatly raises expectations for its quality, and after this many delays, it’s pretty much an unpleasable high. It could be a solid 9/10 and it’s still gonna make people say “we waited 4+ years for that?”

It’s not an opinion at all. You can go ahead and pull up the ratings right now and verify my statement. Last week was the single exclusion. If they have all their options laid out on a table, it’s not unreasonable at all to point at one and say “hey that one gets shit ratings, maybe let’s try something different”. If you reread my initial state, you will see I didn’t disregard it entirely, just said it was likely a last resort. Anyway, it’s Friday evening now. There is always that slim hope of maybe seeing a surprise reveal of something on air, but that rarely actually comes to pass. I’m thinking if we are waiting this long, they probably aren’t just rolling out 3 hours of reruns for us. Batman? Regular schedule with a show doubled up? New show? The possibilities become more difficult to narrow down the longer we wait.

Please do not raise my hopes by making actual good suggestions.

I know. That’s why I suggested it as a possibility. If you don’t expect something good to happen, it will be less disappointing when something less bad happens. Punk Hazard - we aren’t really deep enough into the arc for a marathon. It will just be a string of setup episodes with small blips of action. FLCL - They could do the original. I still suspect something prevents the reairing of the two new seasons, considering they have never done so besides right after airing each one. Bebop/GitS/AoT - All could work, maybe not Bebop since it’s already had a curated marathon in the past and we have watched the entire series this year. Black Clover - sure, it would be the biggest curveball MHA - This was my expectation as well. But still not having it announced leads me to believe either Batman is tagging in, or their attempt at MHA S6 failed and they need a new plan. I know they don’t expect much from a marathon night, but they can see as well as we can what viewer repellent the show is. It’s probably the absolute last resort choice in their eyes.

Think bigger. As we saw with Halloween, they aren’t afraid to dust off a show they have lingering rights to. Marathon options don’t have to be limited to just what’s airing. Consider the following, we have 6 slots. Give us one extra slot for the night, and they can do TPN S2 5-11.

The radio silence certainly is confusing. I don’t think many of us are expecting a new show on the 26th, but why hold back which show they are picking for this rerunathon? The only reason I can think of is, as you say, trying to pull together 3 hours of Kevin Conroy Batman. Or perhaps they want to announce the marathon and the upcoming midnight show on the same night. Id say we are sure to hear something tomorrow, but they very well may not and just let whatever is happening on the 26th happen with little to no promotion.

I think what Toei wanted was for DBS to be accessible to children. But we know CN hasn’t touched anime since 08, and even if they did agree to take it, they still would have had to do some mild censorship. So the next best compromise was giving it to AS and having them air it as the bridge between CN and AS. What Toei seemed to not understand is kids love Adult Swim and always have. The difference between 8pm and 11pm was negligible. Having it premier with the rest of the anime on Saturday was the best option for both Toonami and Toei.

CR may not be able to do it by force, but they can do it through negotiation. Toei is desperate for OP to have a western presence, and CR can play into that to get them to back away from handing out the rights to the show behind their back. IMO CR is thinking towards the future. Decade old episodes of OP aren’t worth worrying about, but a new season of DB is. They are going to want any Toei loopholes sealed up tight before a new DB is announced so that they can be it’s exclusive home. I agree Toei will still want their fingers in it, we know from past seasons they don’t take kindly to certain dub choices, but I think they can be convinced that a midnight Saturday cable run is a waste for such a big show. Really, we know that seed is already planted considering the ridiculous 8pm premier deal they forced for a big chunk of Super.

This was something I thought might happen. Last week, lots of fans turned out expecting the first episode of the latest season. After all, the block has promptly got the last 3 seasons, so why not this one? Saw lots of people who had convinced themselves that S5 was a typo on the schedule, and the only actual confirmation we got that it wasn’t was a single tweet from Demarco buried in a response chain. Even with that in mind though, based on those MiA numbers I have to say MHA probably still did a bit better than HCC. Another black eye for the originals. We should hopefully learn what our new midnight show is this week.

Every potential deal from CR going forward should be considered stand alone. They may be able to work some magic on MHA while at the same time CR tightens up the door on Toei content. As I mentioned when MHA was confirmed for a short rerun, landing S6 is certainly something to be excited about, however it’s not a confirmation that Toonami can freely access CR shows again. I think the best way to put it is every CR show we manage to get on the block should be considered a small miracle. Can another happen? Maybe. Is it guaranteed? Not at all. Sketch has a good point too. Dressrosa is a major commitment, even at 2 episodes a week. And even hardcore fans of the series had their tolerance tested during that arc. If it was up to Demarco, it would stay. If others higher up need to be convinced, they may opt to end the series run on a positive note at the end of Punk Hazard. OP has done better at retaining viewership than it’s 2013-2017 run, but it also has not done anything spectacular to justify renewal for such a long arc that is certain to suffer from viewer decay.

If we apply Demarco’s words on this matter from the past, every single episode they air costs them money. The reason One Piece stayed at one episode it’s entire run up to its cancellation was that a second episode was a similar cost to an entirely separate show. If that’s still the case in 2022, OP has been burning 2x money the entire year. As annoying as that is to non OP fans, there’s no argument that content access has been very difficult this year, it’s not like the good times of 2019 where the block was overflowing with shows and needed every slot available to it. I think there are a few possibilities for why they are making the change now. 1. Crunchyroll has sealed up the loophole Toonami used at the start of the year, and the block now has a finite amount of episode left before it’s removed from the schedule again. No telling if that’s in X amount of weeks or the end of this arc, but Demarco is fearing the bottomless well may have a bottom. 2. Toei has either raised the price due to perceived success of Film Red, or Toei simply no longer cares to keep the show on the block. As with above, that pushes them to conserve the episodes they do have. 3. Zaslav has decreed that Toonami needs to lower their expenses, and cutting an OP episode was the easiest way to do that without actually getting rid of anything entirely. Whatever the case may be, I have my doubts the Two Piece combo is coming back anytime soon. I find it very suspect that Toonami chose to shroud the cut hour and cut OP episode under the DST schedule so they wouldn’t have to speak a word about the change.

I’m in the exact same boat. Without a doubt in my mind when Bleach was announced and I was thinking about the dub, Urahara being recast in the original because he died came to mind. Bleach is tricky when it comes to a modern dub. It has an enormous cast, and it was dubbed in a time when lots of VAs kind of just evaporated after a few roles. Then you have others like Laura Bailey who took huge strides in their career and may just not be available. I believe the further away we get from the main cast, the less Viz is going to feel it’s necessary to get the original VA for a character, especially if they have an insignificant role in the new season. I’m sure Viz will at least try to get the original, but if they are bigshots or moved to a new career and aren’t interested, then they are just going to move to someone new. Ichigo, Rukia, Renji, Yoruichi, and Orihime are some of the most prominent and most likely for people to notice a change, and all of those seem locked down by their originals.

I don’t think we can say that for sure. A villain has a goal. Be it terror to change society, enriching themselves, or just creating chaos for the sake of chaos. Why did Kayaba do what he did? “I dunno”

Yikes…. those ratings are GREAT. 2 (presumably 3 with MHA) over 200k? When is the last time that has happened? Why the yikes? Because once again there is irrefutable proof that the core issue with the ratings the past month was Demarco’s original. They put so much stock into the original projects and time and time again they fail the block. And it’s not like this was stiff competition, it was a rerun of MHA in the middle of an arc, and we are looking at at minimum 60k more viewers than 3/4 of HCC. Looking further down the night, it’s interesting how moving Yashahime down completely resolved it’s major retention issue. Not sure if it’s the time or if MiA is just a better match for it.

We don’t want another anime. Yesterday was SAO day, the day Sword Art Online was released in the original story. Where in the hell is my full dive adventure at? You better not tell me in the 12 years since SAO released that all the progress we have made is the Metaverse.

He got in a pay dispute over his work and walked when they would not meet his demands. Not sure how much impact that had on the dub since this was long before tight simuldub windows, but im sure it gave Viz some issues. And being honest, that tweet of his comes off very passive aggressive. Like he knows Viz won’t contact him so he is acting like he has a jam packed schedule they need to work around for him to grace their presence. Im gonna hedge my bet that he likely will not return. I do agree about Seitz, no hate to him, but he really was not the man for the job in this case. Wendee Lee is obviously signaling she wants to remain in the role. I hope she resists any social media bullying that tries to get her to give it up. What happened with Todd? I’m so used to hearing him tell me to put those motes in the bank that I just assumed he didn’t have an current issues.

We lost an hour of premier content just to get MiA S2, so I’d have to guess whatever price tag was on the movie, which they can only air a single time without killing ratings, just wasn’t seen as worth it. As for why canon content is in a movie, not every series is created equal. Sometimes you don’t know if a S2 is ever going to get the greenlight, so if you get a pass to take a step forward with the canon material, it’s foolish not to take it, even if it may cause problems down the road. A movie format also opens the door to having to do less internal censorship. The TV anime already cuts out/covers up a lot of nudity from the manga, and I do believe some of the gore was tamed down for the TV anime as well.

Debt essentially is Monopoly money. The US has like 30 trillion in debt, it’s meaningless, it’s just numbers on a board. It’s never going to go down. As long as WBD can still make periodic payments to those they have debt towards, it will never matter. Unlike the US though, WBD could hypothetically knock out their debt and get back in the black. It will take many years of strategic spending and successful content, but it’s not entirely impossible. Once the stock price starts to rebound (and it will), that will put a dent in some of the problem