Walter Von Moo Moo Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 The law is very simple on indoor tobacco use in business establishments. When the mainstay of the business is food or merchandise, smoking is prohibited by state law. When it's a bar serving alcohol, smoking is allowed unless the management says otherwise. Result: When you want a smoke free dinner, you got it. When you want to shop for clothes, groceries, appliances, etc. without a cloud of smoke hovering around your head, you got it. When you want to sit at a bar and guzzle eleven quarts of beer without seeing a dirty ash tray every ten feet, you got it as long as you go to one of the many clean air friendly establishments. If you wanna stay out all night, being a drunken, hot boxing sot, you got it. Everybody's happy. There's no push for a 100% smoking ban. You don't see self entitled bozos who insist on having all the rules changed just for them. That's the best model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Those people not wanting the smell and taste of cig smoke mixed in with their food or the cancer 2nd hand smoke can give you. So self-entitled. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 We tried banning alcohol once and we got Nascar. Fucking Nascar. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Do you have an article or story to share that makes this a current event discussion, or like even at a bare minimum the state you're talking about? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) You don't understand. Packard is being victimized here from the unfair laws that prevents him from negatively effecting people with his bad life decision. This should be world news. Edited February 12, 2023 by Sieg67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Well if he can keep playing victim if he doesn't put in like a bare minimum of effort to make his topics worth discussing beyond troll drama, because I'm just going to roll them all into one megathread where we don't have to read them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_annoying_one Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: Well if he can keep playing victim if he doesn't put in like a bare minimum of effort to make his topics worth discussing beyond troll drama, because I'm just going to roll them all into one megathread where we don't have to read them. The_annoying_one likes this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: Well if he can keep playing victim if he doesn't put in like a bare minimum of effort to make his topics worth discussing beyond troll drama, because I'm just going to roll them all into one megathread where we don't have to read them. Packard doesn't want a discussion, he wants attention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Von Moo Moo Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 57 minutes ago, stilgar said: Packard doesn't want a discussion, he wants attention. You can't get any more current than what is going on at this particular moment. I think more people would be happy if every state followed this model because it leaves more choices up to the individuals, rather than having things dictated from behind a desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said: You can't get any more current than what is going on at this particular moment. I think more people would be happy if every state followed this model because it leaves more choices up to the individuals, rather than having things dictated from behind a desk. what state Packard?!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said: You can't get any more current than what is going on at this particular moment. I think more people would be happy if every state followed this model because it leaves more choices up to the individuals, rather than having things dictated from behind a desk. This post would make more sense if you ever showed any level of the same outrage at all the bills and laws and general bullshit out there that basically diminish the rights of large chunks of people to get medical services, vote, read books/go to the library without being assaulted, or just exist in general. Further, you don't go to bars as a proud recovering alcoholic so sit your smoking butt down on a bench somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Von Moo Moo Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, katt_goddess said: This post would make more sense if you ever showed any level of the same outrage at all the bills and laws and general bullshit out there that basically diminish the rights of large chunks of people to get medical services, vote, read books/go to the library without being assaulted, or just exist in general. Further, you don't go to bars as a proud recovering alcoholic so sit your smoking butt down on a bench somewhere. If I want to sit there all day, drinking coffee, that's what I'll do. Edited February 12, 2023 by Walter Von Moo Moo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Von Moo Moo Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, scoobdog said: what state Packard?!!! Why? Just so you can throw more money at the state's anti smoking lobby? Not every state is the same. Get over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said: Why? Just so you can throw more money at the state's anti smoking lobby? Not every state is the same. Get over it. The same energy as "You wouldn't know her, she goes to another school." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said: Why? Just so you can throw more money at the state's anti smoking lobby? This is a forum, not a blog. There have been significant changes since you were last here which have improved the atmosphere, and our patience for your brand of nonsense is limited. If you don't actually want to talk about whatever the news item was that triggered this and just want to ramble your political opinion on something you won't actually articulate so that other people can talk about the substance, then I think we're done here. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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