Jman Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 It begins... https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-03-12/crunchyroll-adult-swim-announce-toonami-programming-partnership-with-distribution-deal/.144452 ”Now kith.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ninja'd ... you all knew something like this was comin guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 No surprise. Toonami may soon have an official presence on VRV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said: No surprise. Toonami may soon have an official presence on VRV... How's that instead of a Toonami streaming service? THAT do anythin for ya? Now we know why they discontinued Adult Swim linear streaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, elfie said: How's that instead of a Toonami streaming service? THAT do anythin for ya? Now we know why they discontinued Adult Swim linear streaming. Who wants to watch a stream with a selection of 10 shows that you can see elsewhere? =P 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 they sort of had to considering all the other big names in anime keep signing exclusive contracts with Hulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 13 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said: No surprise. Toonami may soon have an official presence on VRV... Samurai Jack and FLCL 2/3 should be on VRV Selects if nothing else but with this deal a Toonami section on VRV only makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I suppose we were all kind of waiting for this shoe to drop after the vague articles when Mob was announced and then the Blade Runner deal. This could be marvelous synergy for AT&T's anime and action animation offerings. They have a strong streaming platform and the only linear TV venue for non-toyetic action animation teaming up to ensure CR's content can reach additional casual audiences. Adult Swim has good connections internationally that can benefit Crunchyroll and CR will also partner with Toonami on future original co-productions. I don't think for a second that this means Crunchyroll series will take up the majority of the slots on Toonami any time soon and I don't expect any big changes until they finish a few more long running series. Next year and beyond though? That could be very interesting. This ensures Toonami will still have options if Hulu's FUNimation deal takes a bunch of good shows off the table and Viz ever decides to take their content elsewhere (we're not escaping Boruto and Shippuden any time soon though). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, mochi said: they sort of had to considering all the other big names in anime keep signing exclusive contracts with Hulu Well that and Netflix greenlighting...everything. Seriously, a Spriggan anime the same week as a Dragon’s Dogma adaptation? And coupled with the news Netflix greenlit the live action One Piece (the one Tomorrow Studios is making with the GOT level budget) it makes perfect sense that Toonami/Adult Swim needs allies in what has, since 2012 and the Toonami revival, become an incredibly competitive field with streaming services throwing tons of money at animation studios and dubbing companies alike. Having the same corporate parent following the big merger just makes their choice of ally obvious. Part of me wonders if that’s why DeMarco hates on streaming services so much. He had to build Toonami back up from the charred rocks of ASA with leftover lunch money from catering, only for Netflix and Hulu to throw millions directly at studios and get every little weeb fantasy project made (except Cannon God Exaxxion). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Meanwhile there's Sentai Filmworks still out in the freezing cold looking in on the companies together indoors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Jman said: Part of me wonders if that’s why DeMarco hates on streaming services so much. He had to build Toonami back up from the charred rocks of ASA with leftover lunch money from catering, only for Netflix and Hulu to throw millions directly at studios and get every little weeb fantasy project made (except Cannon God Exaxxion). That's probably it... although this theory has more to do with his general hatred of billionaires. It's a square peg I cut the edges off of to make fit. 3 hours ago, elfie said: Meanwhile there's Sentai Filmworks still out in the freezing cold looking in on the companies together indoors. Sentai isn't really in bad shape. They've had a wide variety of their shows be borrowed by CR and vice versa with HIDIVE (like the fucking space fishing anime). Still, I really have to wonder what their place is in the industry right now, with Funi defiant and doing its own thing, and CR becoming an even bigger behemoth through joining forces with its corporate siblings. We probably would've heard of a Sentairoll deal being announced, but the fact that the last attempt with Funi ended up collapsing after a while would probably make either company weary. At this point, maybe the solution is for WarnerMedia to buy Sentai outright? It would be perfect for CR, as they would now have vertical integration for licensing shows, dubbing them (using Sentai's Seraphim Digital studios, assuming that they don't fall on Bang Zoom! for everything), and airing them on TV via Toonami. It's a bit of a crazy idea, but I think it can work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Apparently Demarco thinks my complaints about how badly gay people are portrayed in anime are justified (''>_>'')....... ..........this was not something I expected to happen today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, mochi said: Apparently Demarco thinks my complaints about how badly gay people are portrayed in anime are justified (''>_>'')....... ..........this was not something I expected to happen today I was gonna post "because DeMarco tooooooo-tolly knows who you are" until the tweet loaded. .... TIMING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, elfie said: I was gonna post "because DeMarco tooooooo-tolly knows who you are" until the tweet loaded. .... TIMING! he responded to my response too with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, mochi said: he responded to my response too with this If you're not, how come literally only ONE anime (two depending on how ya look at it) fit your wishes in all of anime history? ... granted your wishes are pretty specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, elfie said: If you're not, how come literally only ONE anime (two depending on how ya look at it) fit your wishes in all of anime history? ... granted your wishes are pretty specific. Elfie you know I don't HATE anime for not having gay characters, I like BNHA and it doesn't have any I just complain a little more than I probably have to because I'm not exactly in a position to do anything about the things that bug me and it's frustrating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 10:32 AM, elfie said: Meanwhile there's Sentai Filmworks still out in the freezing cold looking in on the companies together indoors. They run HDive, right? They made a deal with VRV once FUNi left, because someone had to fill that hole. Speaking of, I wonder how DeMarco is going to be allowed to run the block, or if he butts heads with CR executives over Shield Hero. I imagine DeMarco is in full ragefit mode between that and live action One Piece. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Jman said: They run HDive, right? They made a deal with VRV once FUNi left, because someone had to fill that hole. Speaking of, I wonder how DeMarco is going to be allowed to run the block, or if he butts heads with CR executives over Shield Hero. I imagine DeMarco is in full ragefit mode between that and live action One Piece. well if My back and forth with him is anything to go off of he might be weighing the possibility of bringing some gay stuff to Toonami (''>_>'')....which is not something I expected to ever be saying Edited March 15, 2019 by mochi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Demarco gay confirmed! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, mochi said: well if My back and forth with him is anything to go off of he might be weighing the possibility of bringing some gay stuff to Toonami (''>_>'')....which is not something I expected to ever be saying Well, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Hunter x Hunter already certainly have their moments... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 18 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said: Well, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Hunter x Hunter already certainly have their moments... eeehhh I don't know what to say about Jojo but with HunterXHunter....I'm conflicted....since so far the gayest characters we've gotten in that are a Pedophile and a sociopath who's willing to kill a girl so he can keep fucking the king (and who's name is literally an old-timey anti-gay british slur) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Daos said: Demarco gay confirmed! you say that as a joke but I asked him some more questions and he basically confirmed that they have been looking for an anime with inoffensive gay characters......they just can't find any (that are available anyway) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Hey Bulat was gay what more do you want! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Daos said: Hey Bulat was gay what more do you want! for a version of Bulat that doesn't die 8 episodes in I guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, mochi said: you say that as a joke but I asked him some more questions and he basically confirmed that they have been looking for an anime with inoffensive gay characters......they just can't find any (that are available anyway) The fact that they haven't yet found a good match like that is evidence that so little positive gay anime heroes exist. DeMarco is very generous to take the time to respond to your tweets. They should cut their loses and air the later Sailor Moon seasons. Edited March 16, 2019 by elfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Madoka has some heavily implied gayness. How about that? =P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Daos said: Madoka has some heavily implied gayness. How about that? =P Mochi expects MALE romance though. Girls love is actually very common in anime because it's a legit thing in Japan for school girls to love each other, but it's also something they're expected to grow out of. Edited March 16, 2019 by elfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 3:29 AM, Sketch said: I suppose we were all kind of waiting for this shoe to drop after the vague articles when Mob was announced and then the Blade Runner deal. This could be marvelous synergy for AT&T's anime and action animation offerings. They have a strong streaming platform and the only linear TV venue for non-toyetic action animation teaming up to ensure CR's content can reach additional casual audiences. Adult Swim has good connections internationally that can benefit Crunchyroll and CR will also partner with Toonami on future original co-productions. I don't think for a second that this means Crunchyroll series will take up the majority of the slots on Toonami any time soon and I don't expect any big changes until they finish a few more long running series. Next year and beyond though? That could be very interesting. This ensures Toonami will still have options if Hulu's FUNimation deal takes a bunch of good shows off the table and Viz ever decides to take their content elsewhere (we're not escaping Boruto and Shippuden any time soon though). Yeah I hope the block doesn't just turn into a bunch of Crunchyroll shows, even if that's not "any time soon." I want more variety, and since Funimation basically has all the anime, it would be stupid to fuck up that relationship. Hulu... Funimation deal? But Funimation has its own streaming service. https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hulu-funimation-anime-japanese-series-1203079274/ Uhh... ok. All these corporate shenanigans are confusing. x_x AT&T merging with Warner... and now Disney trying to buy Fox (which would also apparently buy Fox's stake in Hulu that I just found out about.) How the hell is this not considered monopolistic behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 12:50 PM, Blatch said: That's probably it... although this theory has more to do with his general hatred of billionaires. It's a square peg I cut the edges off of to make fit. Sentai isn't really in bad shape. They've had a wide variety of their shows be borrowed by CR and vice versa with HIDIVE (like the fucking space fishing anime). Still, I really have to wonder what their place is in the industry right now, with Funi defiant and doing its own thing, and CR becoming an even bigger behemoth through joining forces with its corporate siblings. We probably would've heard of a Sentairoll deal being announced, but the fact that the last attempt with Funi ended up collapsing after a while would probably make either company weary. At this point, maybe the solution is for WarnerMedia to buy Sentai outright? It would be perfect for CR, as they would now have vertical integration for licensing shows, dubbing them (using Sentai's Seraphim Digital studios, assuming that they don't fall on Bang Zoom! for everything), and airing them on TV via Toonami. It's a bit of a crazy idea, but I think it can work. I thought people said that the Sentai dubs suck though. In that case, we definitely don't want them overpopulating the block either. And stop encouraging more corporate consolidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 hours ago, mochi said: eeehhh I don't know what to say about Jojo but with HunterXHunter....I'm conflicted....since so far the gayest characters we've gotten in that are a Pedophile and a sociopath who's willing to kill a girl so he can keep fucking the king (and who's name is literally an old-timey anti-gay british slur) That expression. I'll be sure to set this ammo aside for the next time a HxH argument crops up. =3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Yeah I hope the block doesn't just turn into a bunch of Crunchyroll shows, even if that's not "any time soon." I want more variety, and since Funimation basically has all the anime, it would be stupid to fuck up that relationship. Hulu... Funimation deal? But Funimation has its own streaming service. https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hulu-funimation-anime-japanese-series-1203079274/ Uhh... ok. All these corporate shenanigans are confusing. x_x AT&T merging with Warner... and now Disney trying to buy Fox (which would also apparently buy Fox's stake in Hulu that I just found out about.) How the hell is this not considered monopolistic behavior? Everyone wants to git with everything. It's an all-out corporate CEO orgy in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, ben0119 said: I thought people said that the Sentai dubs suck though. In that case, we definitely don't want them overpopulating the block either. And stop encouraging more corporate consolidation. Konosuba's dub is actually really good, and Land of the Lustrous' dub so far is good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, elfie said: The fact that they haven't yet found a good match like that is evidence that so little positive gay anime heroes exist. DeMarco is very generous to take the time to respond to your tweets. They should cut their loses and air the later Sailor Moon seasons. Hulu has exclusive rights to Sailor Moon for a 1000 years though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 https://www.animeimpulse.com/blog/2017/5/2/10-best-gay-anime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, elfie said: Mochi expects MALE romance though. Girls love is actually very common in anime because it's a legit thing in Japan for school girls to love each other, but it's also something they're expected to grow out of. I'm fine with lesbian romance too....I just wish male romance was actually an option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Daos said: https://www.animeimpulse.com/blog/2017/5/2/10-best-gay-anime a handful of those are okay, some are absolutely horrid, and one of them (Dramatical murder) actually made the characters straight in it's anime adaption even though it's source material was a gay dating sim with EXTREMELY explicit sex scenes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, elfie said: Konosuba's dub is actually really good, and Land of the Lustrous' dub so far is good too. Actually Konosuba was a Bang Zoom dub. Not Sentai. 7 hours ago, mochi said: a handful of those are okay, some are absolutely horrid, and one of them (Dramatical murder) actually made the characters straight in it's anime adaption even though it's source material was a gay dating sim with EXTREMELY explicit sex scenes And if I remember correctly, the OVA they put out was just an adaptation of all the (popular) bad ends without any context to string them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 hours ago, ben0119 said: That expression. I'll be sure to set this ammo aside for the next time a HxH argument crops up. =3 Yes ben, try dishing out criticism on arguably the single-best arc in shounen history. We'd all love to see you continue to have no goddamn idea what you're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Actually Konosuba was a Bang Zoom dub. Not Sentai. And if I remember correctly, the OVA they put out was just an adaptation of all the (popular) bad ends without any context to string them together. ... BangZoom isn't a licensing company, it's a recording company. They did work for VIZ in the past too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 What the fuck does it matter that it isn't a licensing company? Bang Zoom did the dub for Konosuba for Crunchyroll, not Sentai's in-house studio for Sentai, deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, Top Gun said: Yes ben, try dishing out criticism on arguably the single-best arc in shounen history. We'd all love to see you continue to have no goddamn idea what you're talking about. Well, doing that would actually require me to watch it. And unlike some mental-ass people, I don't feel the need to - like that Deathgod guy I think it was, said he would watch shows he hated to completion to have "full bitching rights." I made a point of watching every ASA and Toonami show I could, such was my devotion as a completionist. The only two I can think of that I missed were Outlaw Star and Pilot Candidate, and the former was rectified when modern Toonami aired it. So what does it tell you that I became so fed up with Hiatus that I broke my own self-imposed rule and years-long streak of watching every ASA and Toonami show in full and dropped it? I gave the show more than a fair chance, more than most would have. It's a plodding, directionless show with unlikable characters where nothing happens. If a show can't win someone over after 50-something episodes then that's a problem. I wasn't going to keep watching something I already didn't like with characters I didn't like to get to this mythical "good part." Your endorsement for Hiatus is about as good as Applecountry's was for Shippuden - "The show is crap til 75 episodes in, then it's totally awesome, man!" But hey, I guess not everything can be Shonen Shakespeare like Hiatus. I'm not going to keep watching it just so I can have "full bitching rights," either. When I don't like something, I ignore it, forget about it, and move on. Edited March 17, 2019 by ben0119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 It tells me you have fucking awful taste and can't identify good storytelling if your life depended on it? But then we've known that about you for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 ...ANYWAY, Toonami news asked people what shows they would want on Toonami on Crunchyroll as part of this new collaboration - WAY too many people suggested RWBY and gen:Lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I've thoroughly explained my issues with the part of HxH I watched many times and you even admitted that those parts weren't done very well in the 2011 anime. I do also like plenty of shows that you like and which are highly regarded by the general consensus. Is that not consolation enough for you? Not that I care what other people like, but apparently you do. I don't know why you feel the need to keep harping on this. You need to take a chill pill and stop getting so worked up and making things personal over entertainment. You need to accept that not everyone is going to like what you like, or dislike what you dislike, and remember that quality of art and entertainment is subjective. You are not the master arbiter of what is good and bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Jman said: ...ANYWAY, Toonami news asked people what shows they would want on Toonami on Crunchyroll as part of this new collaboration - WAY too many people suggested RWBY and gen:Lock. What the hell even is RWBY, anyway? From what I can tell, it's some amateur made thing with crappy art and animation that got popular that seems cringey and cheesy and with a fanbase I probably want to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ben0119 said: I've thoroughly explained my issues with the part of HxH I watched many times and you even admitted that those parts weren't done very well in the 2011 anime. I do also like plenty of shows that you like and which are highly regarded by the general consensus. Is that not consolation enough for you? Not that I care what other people like, but apparently you do. I don't know why you feel the need to keep harping on this. You need to take a chill pill and stop getting so worked up and making things personal over entertainment. You need to accept that not everyone is going to like what you like, or dislike what you dislike, and remember that quality of art and entertainment is subjective. You are not the master arbiter of what is good and bad. The only part of the series I would say was substantially better in the '99 adaptation in an actually impactful way was the Hunter Exam. I don't really remember enough details about the Zoldyck and Heaven's Arena arcs in the '99 version to speak to whether there were any significant differences, but I do know that Yorknew was done about equal justice in both, and after that it's all 2011. I don't give a shit if people like different things than I do. What I do give a shit about is when people incessantly spew deliberately misleading or objectively false statements about a particular series, especially when they've been corrected about them many times before. That goes double when said people incessantly overlook massive flaws in the series they enjoy while attempting to pin those same flaws on other series. When you do these things over many years, you essentially give up any and all claims of credibility on literary criticism. If you don't want to be called out on this behavior, then stop doing it. Edited March 17, 2019 by Top Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, ben0119 said: What the hell even is RWBY, anyway? From what I can tell, it's some amateur made thing with crappy art and animation that got popular that seems cringey and cheesy and with a fanbase I probably want to avoid. A 3D show from a low budget start up that got an immense amount of loyalty, fans, and improvements in the budget. Unfortunately, the original creator died a few years ago. He never got to see his characters present in a BlazBlue game. Edited March 18, 2019 by Jman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I could've sworn Monty died from an allergic reaction that wound up being his girlfriend's fault... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Oum You’re correct. And edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Top Gun said: The only part of the series I would say was substantially better in the '99 adaptation in an actually impactful way was the Hunter Exam. I don't really remember enough details about the Zoldyck and Heaven's Arena arcs in the '99 version to speak to whether there were any significant differences, but I do know that Yorknew was done about equal justice in both, and after that it's all 2011. I don't give a shit if people like different things than I do. What I do give a shit about is when people incessantly spew deliberately misleading or objectively false statements about a particular series, especially when they've been corrected about them many times before. That goes double when said people incessantly overlook massive flaws in the series they enjoy while attempting to pin those same flaws on other series. When you do these things over many years, you essentially give up any and all claims of credibility on literary criticism. If you don't want to be called out on this behavior, then stop doing it. Oh, so then you don't have full bitching rights, either! You need to go back and re-watch everything before you can talk! Anyway, Naraku could vouch for this. I may have been going off what he said, too. In either case, all I can judge is what's been presented in front of me. But yeah, Hunter Exam was definitely a slog. Remember when there was a whole episode of the characters running? I'm not sure what you're referring to specifically. I mean, if someone doesn't find characters likable or relatable, no amount of facts or elaboration is going to change that person's mind. If it's a matter of a show being too talky, and I like a show like that? Like Moribito? But I like those characters and that world, and found the discussions interesting. A whole episode is spent on Chagum dismantling this gambling scam artist, and it was enjoyable to me. Stuff like this happens all the time in HxH. Sorry if I don't find candle games enthralling. Or whatever that game was with Killua's butler. It was just stupid. That sort of stuff was done better in pre-card game Yugioh than any similar examples in HxH. HxH thinks this stuff is so clever and interesting, but it isn't. I called HxH directionless? Well, people are calling JoJo: Diamond is Unbreakable directionless, too, you might say. But the thing is, the stories we follow in JoJo are actually interesting and entertaining, as opposed to wherever HxH might decide to meander. It's just executed better. And again, likable characters help. What I did notice was that the direction of the plot for this part of the arc wasn't obvious at first, as it was happening and building up, but there is a direction to this arc that we can see now, in spite of what people have said. At the same time, I can't really say watching a whole episode of Gon trying to get through a door was compelling or worth reaching the ultimate destination. It's just not interesting. And I hear they spend a whole episode antiquing later on? Eh. Like I said, plodding, and nothing happens, nothing interesting, anyway. When I look at episode count for the HxH episodes I watched and compare it to just about anything else, it's no contest. One's time would be better spent watching almost anything else. I could have watched some great 13, 26, or 52 episode series, or some good arcs from some long-runners with the time I wasted on this show. And the first episode hook is nonexistent compared to any other shonen. Just about any shonen I can rattle off, Dragon Ball, Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail, Black Clover, all give you a good feel for the world and gets you to want to join the characters on their adventure. With HxH, you don't get that all, and then people tell you to keep watching, it's going to get good. No, a show needs to be good from the beginning. Start off good and get better, maybe, but not start out as crap with a supposed promise to one day get good. People talked this show up for years about how it was God's Gift to Shonen, the greatest shonen ever made, it's so subversive and DARK, dude! Because those last two things are supposed to make it good in and of themselves, for some reason. And I'm like... what are you talking about, when I finally saw the show. This is a whole a lot of nothing. Maybe I overlook similar flaws in series I enjoy because they have other things going for them that massively outweigh these flaws and redeem them in my eyes, or I don't find the flaws to be flaws. It's hard to say without you giving examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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