Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 we're all under a very strict agreement with the company that doesn't allow us to take additional work without an exhausting amount of approvals. i don't really do anything on the weekend except laze around the house. it'd be nice if they let us take other jobs. maybe not within the same field, because i could see that being a conflict of interest, but i'd like another outlet to make some money during my spare time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmod_Luna Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 What's wrong with you man. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 What do you do for work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, Athena 92 said: What's wrong with you man. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, Sawdamizer said: What do you do for work? this basically explains my line of work  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmod_Luna Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, Naraku4656 said: Â What's the point of having more money if you have no free time to use it. Also usually when I think of someone with 2 jobs I do not think of someone that has a lot of money I think of a poor person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Athena 92 said: What's the point of having more money if you have no free time to use it. Also usually when I think of someone with 2 jobs I do not think of someone that has a lot of money I think of a poor person. i'm not thinking another 40 hour job. i'm thinking maybe like a 10 or 15 hour something on the side. maybe some tech support work or something. some people i know do that and pull an extra $25 an hour in additional to their salaried jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Athena 92 said: What's the point of having more money if you have no free time to use it. Also usually when I think of someone with 2 jobs I do not think of someone that has a lot of money I think of a poor person. My brother is rich, has a duel income household and STILL works two jobs and works Every. Single. Day. I keep telling him to quit. He has over 100 hours of vacation AND fmla My mom says its because he enjoys working more than being at home...imma let u figure that out No..imma give u a clue.. Marry someone u can stand being around ..lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 i mean i enjoy working more than being at home. nothing to do here, it's boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: i mean i enjoy working more than being at home. nothing to do here, it's boring Youre a smart guy. Why not find a hobby doing something u can sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, fuggstop said: Youre a smart guy. Why not find a hobby doing something u can sell? i'm only good at one thing, and that thing unfortunately is mandated to not be used by any other company so long as i am an FTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: i'm only good at one thing, and that thing unfortunately is mandated to not be used by any other company so long as i am an FTE Its your life. Make it what u want. Do u still need to be fte if you have a 2nd job? I need to find a PT myself but..lazy...and...brain broken Plus my daughter cries when im at work too much Single with no real responsibilities? I wouldn't let nothing stop me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 i mean that so long as i am an FTE to my current company I can not take any PT, contract, or other paid work without approval. i'd like to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 What did you sign that states this? Most states are employee at will, so I get they can fire anyone for anything. I'd see if they've made exceptions before and what the details were, cite that as a precedence and it wouldn't be very painful l, as HR would not want it to appear that their is inconsistencies within the organization. A wage increase may be worth negotiating especially it being annual review time. 5% seems to be the number these days people are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: What did you sign that states this? Most states are employee at will, so I get they can fire anyone for anything. I'd see if they've made exceptions before and what the details were, cite that as a precedence and it wouldn't be very painful l, as HR would not want it to appear that their is inconsistencies within the organization. A wage increase may be worth negotiating especially it being annual review time. 5% seems to be the number these days people are using. a non-compete agreement and it states no secondary work, even if it's not in the same field, unless you have some crazy level of approval. there's no wage increase i'm going to be able to negotiate which is going to be more than just getting an additional job. even at 5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Naraku4656 said: a non-compete agreement and it states no secondary work, even if it's not in the same field, unless you have some crazy level of approval. there's no wage increase i'm going to be able to negotiate which is going to be more than just getting an additional job. even at 5% I visited a "banking lab" to walk a process and they had beer on tap and like common areas where they just drank at work... It was odd. It was in Boston. My point is, there are other perks. Edited November 11, 2018 by Sawdamizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Are you even struggling financially? I'm getting a second job because I'm a broke bitch and I'm still unsure of what major I should take in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: I visited a "banking lab" to walk a process and they had beer on tap and like common areas where they just drank at work... It was odd. It was in Boston. My point is, there are other perks. trust me i've looked at other places. i could have made 9k more somewhere else but the benefits were not nearly as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, bnmjy said: Are you even struggling financially? I'm getting a second job because I'm a broke bitch and I'm still unsure of what major I should take in college. i'm not doing as well as others within the same field. having a second job would put me on par with the level of savings i should have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_girl_lost Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Can you make anything, like a craft? Make nice things and sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, little_girl_lost said: Can you make anything, like a craft? Make nice things and sell them. my sibling is the artsy one, i'm the scientific one. the only thing i can do with my hands is make hand puppets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Volunteer at a local library. I'm sure they would like to have you help out with any IT issues. You could also teach basic computer classes to senior citizens. Neither of these would violate your contracts with your employer. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quebecelegy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 why do u like to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, Ginguy said: Volunteer at a local library. I'm sure they would like to have you help out with any IT issues. You could also teach basic computer classes to senior citizens. Neither of these would violate your contracts with your employer. Â i've thought about that but the closest library doesn't have enough computers to make it so i won't be bored. i'd have to go to the main one, which is not near here. i also don't have the patience to teach. any volunteer work that is not done through a company affiliated non-profit is also subject to approval. though that's mostly to stop people from volunteering for politically motivated organizations that may not align with our values. the approval i'd need for non-political volunteer work is much easier to manage and would only really take finding something i care enough about to spend time doing. i would like to spend that time though earning some form of payment, if at all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, quebecelegy said: why do u like to work for the same reason i'm probably never going to retire. i need to do something constructive and feel like i'm contributing. the only reason i have so much saved now in my 401k is in case i get into any medical problems that are going to eventually force me to stop. but unless that happens, i'm probably going to be doing some form of work until i die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Naraku4656 said: i've thought about that but the closest library doesn't have enough computers to make it so i won't be bored. i'd have to go to the main one, which is not near here. i also don't have the patience to teach. any volunteer work that is not done through a company affiliated non-profit is also subject to approval. though that's mostly to stop people from volunteering for politically motivated organizations that may not align with our values. the approval i'd need for non-political volunteer work is much easier to manage and would only really take finding something i care enough about to spend time doing. i would like to spend that time though earning some form of payment, if at all possible. I can't see why they wouldn't let you volunteer. You might even be able to get the local branch some computers, look for older systems from your current employer and see if they will donate them. Also, the fact that political volunteering is subject to approval is grounds for a massive lawsuit. I mean massive, as in void just about any and all employee contracts, massive. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quebecelegy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: for the same reason i'm probably never going to retire. i need to do something constructive and feel like i'm contributing. the only reason i have so much saved now in my 401k is in case i get into any medical problems that are going to eventually force me to stop. but unless that happens, i'm probably going to be doing some form of work until i die. you can work for me bby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ginguy said: I can't see why they wouldn't let you volunteer. You might even be able to get the local branch some computers, look for older systems from your current employer and see if they will donate them. Also, the fact that political volunteering is subject to approval is grounds for a massive lawsuit. I mean massive, as in void just about any and all employee contracts, massive.  i think their reasoning was to avoid any allegations of "pay to play", though i might be confusing myself with their rules about political contributions needing to be approved. my last company required the same thing so that leads me to believe it's not that uncommon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, quebecelegy said: you can work for me bby kiss me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Naraku4656 said: i don't really do anything on the weekend except laze around the house.  2 hours ago, Naraku4656 said: i mean i enjoy working more than being at home. nothing to do here, it's boring Maybe make some friends or memories or something? You know, life. Get a nice camera take some pics. North Carolina is beautiful, what parks have you been to? You like music, spend a few weekends in Asheville find a place you like to go w cool shows make some friends there. Idk man, getting bored of being at home by yourself all weekend every weekend is completely understandable, but seeking out more work to fill your time with doesn't have to be the answer. If you have to feel productive maybe meet and work with some good people on something that rewards you in ways other than a little extra spending money your comfortable middle class home owner ass doesn't need, for example you could join your local DSA chapter in a time of ascendant right wing fascism. Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Naraku4656 said: i think their reasoning was to avoid any allegations of "pay to play", though i might be confusing myself with their rules about political contributions needing to be approved. my last company required the same thing so that leads me to believe it's not that uncommon Wut? Political contributions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Sawdamizer said: Wut? Political contributions? yeah like if you donate to a state senator's election campaign or something it has to get approved. anything federal election level is fine so long as the person's not currently a state senator/representative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: i think their reasoning was to avoid any allegations of "pay to play", though i might be confusing myself with their rules about political contributions needing to be approved. my last company required the same thing so that leads me to believe it's not that uncommon That still seems to be suspect. Unless it is a prohibition against donations to specific parties who are doing direct business it seems like a direct infringement on personal speech.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Ginguy said: That still seems to be suspect. Unless it is a prohibition against donations to specific parties who are doing direct business it seems like a direct infringement on personal speech. Â it's a private company. i don't think 1A arguments are really going to apply here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 WE'RE GETTING OFF TOPIC EITHER WAY. I'D LIKE TO DO SOME FORM OF WORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I didn't know that was a thing. Like, I know the limitations around how much you can donate. But unless you took a bribe of sorts... I just... Don't know what you mean? I have to notify my company if I hold a public elected office to be sure conflicts of interest are addressed. Then we have the obvious RESPA stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 $10 blowies under the bridge, is my best suggestion for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Sawdamizer said: I didn't know that was a thing. Like, I know the limitations around how much you can donate. But unless you took a bribe of sorts... I just... Don't know what you mean? I have to notify my company if I hold a public elected office to be sure conflicts of interest are addressed. Then we have the obvious RESPA stuff. nope, any amount needs to be approved. i know because we just got a company wide email to report anything we may have donated during the 2018 midterms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: WE'RE GETTING OFF TOPIC EITHER WAY. I'D LIKE TO DO SOME FORM OF WORK Drive for Lyft then you fucking lame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Naraku4656 said: nope, any amount needs to be approved. i know because we just got a company wide email to report anything we may have donated during the 2018 midterms Then you don't need approvals, you need to justify the donation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I also question your ability to interpret the rules of your organization at this point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Sawdamizer said: Then you don't need approvals, you need to justify the donation. i'm telling you dude, they tell people that we have to report it and get approvals from the compliance team. what happens if we've already donated and don't get approvals? idk maybe it's just a slap on the wrist but i'm not willing to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: it's a private company. i don't think 1A arguments are really going to apply here. Private organizations cannot compel you to sign away enumerated rights. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_N Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Why not do contract work? That's not employment. You could also just Uber or something if you don't care about making that much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ginguy said: Private organizations cannot compel you to sign away enumerated rights. Â Â Employees who work in the private-sector do not, as a rule, have First Amendment protection for their speech in the workplace. https://corporate.findlaw.com/law-library/freedom-of-speech-in-the-workplace-the-first-amendment-revisited.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Key words: in the workplace. Political speech is public discourse, and thus not "in the workplace". Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, K_N said: Why not do contract work? That's not employment. You could also just Uber or something if you don't care about making that much money. Â i have to certify yearly that i don't have any other means of gaining notable income except for the company I am currently at. if it's like $20 under the table helping a friend move, yeah obviously no one cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ginguy said: Key words: in the workplace. Political speech is public discourse, and thus not "in the workplace". Â we are always "in the workplace" I am a salaried 24/7 employee of the company Edited November 12, 2018 by Naraku4656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: we are always "in the workplace" I am a salaried 24/7 employee of the company SMGDMFH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I wish my job didn't work me so hard. My schedule is free pretty much all week, but the 3 12's I pull usually leave me so tore up I don't even want to go anywhere when I'm off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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