GuyBeardmane Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I just started thinking about this: what does this whole thing entail? Like, according to christianity your soul will suffer eternal damnation in hell if you don't invite jesus into your heart. With that being the case, why would Satan ever need to bargain with someone to get their soul? Does Satan solely go after people's souls if they're saved? What purpose do the souls serve that Satan would bargain with someone, including but not limited to having a fiddle contest and giving away a solid gold fiddle? On that note, is there a monetary value for a soul? Like the kid in the song gets a solid gold fiddle, but Bart sold his soul for $5. What's the going rate for souls? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I believe this is in reference to Satan will give you whatever you want, but your soul will belong to him. Meaning your soul will be cast into the lake of fire, upon your expiration. A ''More the merrier'' scenario. The more souls he can lure from God, the better. For him. And yes, it is Christians beliefs that one must accept Jesus as their Savior in order to reach the kingdom of Heaven. Hence the name Christianity. However, if the Bible is to be believed and taken at face value, the Jewish people are the chosen people, and they do not accept Jesus as their Savior. Which begs the question, if the Jewish folks are the chosen people, and do not accept Christ as their Savior, is Christianity really the correct religion? Not agreeing or disagreeing with any religion, just stating the facts. In my opinion, regarding God and Jesus, I would be betting the Jews have a better understanding, and the Christians, not so much. I mean, why would the Jews be the chosen people, if they are wrong about who to accept as their Savior? Just some things I picked up on, after attending Synagogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 it's a contract for you to join the ranks of the demonic hierarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengu Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Look, if you don’t come out of the deal any less than a rock star or A list celebrity then you got fucked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameraka Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 meh, he can have it for free. not like i'm using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I guess it's a way for Satan to lock your soul down early to prevent any return to Jesus moments later in life, like sorry, it doesn't matter that you want to open your heart to Jesus on your death bed, you already sold your soul to the devil back in 08 so a video of your dog could go viral or whatever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimopoBotar Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Is there anything actually in the bible about this in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Souls make cheap night lights. Cuts down on the costs of lighting the damned place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutieQuesadilla Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Literally witches were promised bread and butter for their souls. Good trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death_by_motorboat Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) On 10/7/2018 at 12:35 PM, midnight said: I believe this is in reference to Satan will give you whatever you want, but your soul will belong to him. Meaning your soul will be cast into the lake of fire, upon your expiration. A ''More the merrier'' scenario. The more souls he can lure from God, the better. For him. And yes, it is Christians beliefs that one must accept Jesus as their Savior in order to reach the kingdom of Heaven. Hence the name Christianity. However, if the Bible is to be believed and taken at face value, the Jewish people are the chosen people, and they do not accept Jesus as their Savior. Which begs the question, if the Jewish folks are the chosen people, and do not accept Christ as their Savior, is Christianity really the correct religion? Not agreeing or disagreeing with any religion, just stating the facts. In my opinion, regarding God and Jesus, I would be betting the Jews have a better understanding, and the Christians, not so much. I mean, why would the Jews be the chosen people, if they are wrong about who to accept as their Savior? Just some things I picked up on, after attending Synagogue. Edited October 23, 2018 by Snorting_Mother_Nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimopoBotar Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, CutieQuesadilla said: Literally witches were promised bread and butter for their souls. Good trade. How bad does shit have to get when your immortal soul is worth the free shit you get before a meal at a mid quality restaurant? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnight Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) . Edited October 24, 2018 by midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimopoBotar Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 41 minutes ago, Snorting_Mother_Nature said: i think he only tempts you and your soul is instantly his, never fulfilling his promise; or; the time on this Earth in infamy is too short to compare to the eternal hell. accepting Jesus would be the very consciousness of being a Christian but enduring, practicing, teaching, and spreading the works of Jesus is the actual religious duty. it would be nice if you could just say, "Yes Jesus died for me and I accept him as my savior, he washed me free of sin and will be my Shepherd and Lord, to guide me to the Heavens, he suffered at Calvary and rose from the dead to show us the miracle of resurrection, and rose to the heavens to show us the miracle of ascension, and promised if we follow his works we will rise with him. He died for us, rose from the dead and ascended to heaven, to be with His father the Lord our God ruler of the Universe, who gave his only son to prove his love for us, watched Him die so the sacrificial lamb will lead us to purgatory, where we will face our eternal Judgement," but it involves a little effort. i think the fact Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah, is a lesson in humanity. If you look at the education fundamentals of the religion itself, 5500 years old, it says love thy neighbor, it says you are your brothers keeper, it says humanity makes mistakes and the lord protects those who believe in him, it never says (and I will further this point in a second) abandon those who go astray, in fact it says to pray for them. If you look at the city, the houses, the people, the traffic, the children, the homeless, the world spinning around and on one side of the street is a synagogue and on the other is a protestant church, the lesson to be learned is accept your brother, love your neighbor, believe in righteousness and good deeds. definitely not to find fault in each other. accepting Jesus and his works is as hard for Jews as it is for Christians to understand why Jews dont believe and thats the take, but theres only one option. if you accept your brother and love him, you accept his beliefs, or there will be discord. The Jews can either accept Jesus or face a humanity of disregard for their brother. the lesson comes down to if you can accept Christians as brothers then you can accept Jesus, and the bible actually has scriptures about Jesus' brother Jude having trouble accepting some of Jesus works. so i think it all makes sense that the Jews one day will accept Jesus. who's right and who's wrong is not a necessary standpoint at all So if one lives a righteous life, does good deeds, loves thy neighbor, and accepts other people with love, but doesn't believe in jesus, are they still damned? If not, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyBeardmane Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Look man, all I'm tryin to do is get out of debt without being broke all the time. I just need a good chunk o' money and I'm not really using my soul so I may as well pawn it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbo Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, KimopoBotar said: So if one lives a righteous life, does good deeds, loves thy neighbor, and accepts other people with love, but doesn't believe in jesus, are they still damned? If not, why? jesus knows in his heart if you accept him. everyone accepts Jesus in some way. refusing or rebuking the Lord deserves hell, in that religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimopoBotar Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, CactusLove said: jesus knows in his heart if you accept him. everyone accepts Jesus in some way. refusing or rebuking the Lord deserves hell, in that religion. I'm just wondering if that's more important than living a righteous life in the eyes of most Christians and why. Edited October 8, 2018 by KimopoBotar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbo Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, KimopoBotar said: I'm just wondering if that's more important than living a righteous life in the eyes of most Christians and why. yes thats more important. Jesus was a sacrifice for our sin that good deeds could never repay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimopoBotar Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, CactusLove said: yes thats more important. Jesus was a sacrifice for our sin that good deeds could never repay I figured. That's pretty twisted to me. I don't want to buy into a religion where the deity's ego is so fragile they care more about whether or not you believe than how you live your life. That doesn't seem very godly. It seems petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbo Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, KimopoBotar said: I figured. That's pretty twisted to me. I don't want to buy into a religion where the deity's ego is so fragile they care more about whether or not you believe than how you live your life. That doesn't seem very godly. It seems petty. its about accepting the fact you need a savior because you are flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, KimopoBotar said: I figured. That's pretty twisted to me. I don't want to buy into a religion where the deity's ego is so fragile they care more about whether or not you believe than how you live your life. That doesn't seem very godly. It seems petty. Great way to get people to come to and cling to the religion though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimopoBotar Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, CactusLove said: its about accepting the fact you need a savior because you are flawed. But it can only be that one specific savior. That sounds like an excuse made by a petty deity that can't handle people not believing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_ghost420 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 you people are all doing it wrong. you're not supposed to sell your soul for material goods. that's a waste of time. you're supposed to join Lucifer with fire in your heart and fight against the false gods of The Bible and The Quran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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