OwlChemist81 Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 Season 2's ending not sit right with you? There might be more to be told... https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2018-08-02/gundam-iron-blooded-orphans-continuation-teased/.135000 Quote
PokeNirvash Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 Eh, it's probably either a Calamity War prequel or a recap movie with alternate turns of events. Maybe it'll pull a Be Invoked and kill off even more people at the end? 1 Quote
ben0119 Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Just leave it alone, Sunrise. You've done enough damage as it is. Let it die. There's no way they can undo that ending or much of the shittiness in season 2 unless they redo it and pull a Brotherhood and claim the original season 2 was some alternate continuity. A series about the Calamity War might be interesting though. Quote
Daos Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Yuck. Just keep Gundam off Toonami and it's fine. 1 Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 Only Gundam series I've seen to completion that I actively hated. Let this die. Give us Crossbone Gundam instead. 2 1 Quote
Daos Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/27/2018 at 3:00 AM, MasqueradeOverture said: Only Gundam series I've seen to completion that I actively hated. Let this die. Give us Crossbone Gundam instead. Expand I've only seen IBO and Unicorn. My opinion on Gundam is not a positive one. 1 Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 Gundam: IBO is pure garbage. Basically Gundam Wing 2.0, but worse. Gundam Unicorn, although merely average in the Gundam universe, is a real anime. Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted August 27, 2018 Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/27/2018 at 3:10 AM, Daos said: I've only seen IBO and Unicorn. My opinion on Gundam is not a positive one. Expand IBO is trash and Unicorn's unwatchable for anyone who's not familiar with the three 80's series. Watch MSG '79 & Zeta, any of the older OVAs, or G Gundam. It'll take the bad first taste right out of your mouth. Quote
scope Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 On 8/27/2018 at 3:23 AM, MasqueradeOverture said: IBO is trash and Unicorn's unwatchable for anyone who's not familiar with the three 80's series. Watch MSG '79 & Zeta, any of the older OVAs, or G Gundam. It'll take the bad first taste right out of your mouth. Expand War in the Pocket is best Gundam imo Quote
Daos Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 Ugh there's so many Gundams. It's like trying to get into the Fate series. Quote
naraku360 Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 7:40 AM, Daos said: Ugh there's so many Gundams. It's like trying to get into the Fate series. Expand Not a chance in hell Gundam is as bad as Fate. Gundam is, as far as I'm aware, mostly standalone series. Fate constantly demands you to go through the whole franchise to "understand" what's happening, but its lore is such incomprehensible fucking trash it's better to stick with Zero and call it good. 1 Quote
Daos Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 I haven't seen any Fate yet, every time I thought about watching one I see 20 different shows and I'm just kind of like... meh that's too much to get into. I heard something about one of the more recent ones being a good starting point... like Fate/stay night or maybe it was unlimited blade works. I've heard nothing but good things about the fight scenes and animation, and the characters seem to be well liked. Quote
naraku360 Posted August 28, 2018 Posted August 28, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 8:42 AM, Daos said: I haven't seen any Fate yet, every time I thought about watching one I see 20 different shows and I'm just kind of like... meh that's too much to get into. I heard something about one of the more recent ones being a good starting point... like Fate/stay night or maybe it was unlimited blade works. I've heard nothing but good things about the fight scenes and animation, and the characters seem to be well liked. Expand Nope. The only reasons people like UBW is because it has Rin and the asthetic in the fights look prettier than Zero. UBW assumes you understand the lore of Fate, which in itself is a mistake since the lore is pure gibberish written by a madman. It's 1 of 3 routes from a game where you need all 3 routes to "understand" its incoherent ramblings. They also assume you know Zero. UBW's episode 0, which follows Rin, is the best episode, but as soon as Shiro takes over in episode 1 it nosedives. Rin really should've been the protagonist since Shiro is a really boting, remarkably dumb main character. It's supposed to be a Battle Royale, but all the villians just go after the incompetent idiot of a main character who plot armors his way through them with nothing in the way of dramatic stakes. The action is flashy but it's not even as well choreographed or engaging as Zero's since the writing is so much worse. Zero is an actual free-for-all where actual characters come up with things like strategies instead of Shiro hit things until winning even though it breaks rules we established 10 seconds ago. Reveal hidden contents Zero takes half a season of character and conflict build up for a single main character to be taken out. Shiro, of UBW, plows through like half of them near singlehandedly in the same amount of time - and he doesn't even know what he's doing. You need very little knowledge of Fate to get into Zero and it's just the better show. I went in with no other series and came out with a great show. It just wouldn't be possible to do with UBW unless you just want big, dumb spectacle fights. ...... The only benefit to watching UBW is that the first heavens feel movie was actually pretty sick. Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 28, 2018 Author Posted August 28, 2018 I can't speak for the new Unlimited Blade Works series, but I had no trouble following the Heaven's Feel movie after having had only seen Fate/Zero. Fate/Zero DOES have its problems (characters pacing around during long scenes of dialog, for example), but for the most part, it's the shit, and easy to understand since it's the beginning point. Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Gundam's fallen out of favor heavily since the early 2000s. The only people who watch the old shows nowadays are young anime afficionados, who are curious as to what made it so popular in Japan, and the fans who were busy watching B.S. and are just catching up to speed. 05/06 it was obvious that Bandai was never dubbing ZZ Gundam, they couldn't even get CN to buy Zeta. Zeta only got dubbed on the heels of Gundam's popularity, it's clear these idiots at Toonami only want newer animation and will only play something dated premillenium if it's one of their favorites. They're just followers, not leaders I just finished rewatching Unicorn on demand today and I still think it makes the rest of the series that Toonami plays look like crap. But because crap like Hunter, Black Clover, Naruto, and Super are popular, crap is what'll keep being shown. IBO is crap and they'll pick up this garbage new season just because it looks nice. Go do some girly dress shopping, Toonami producers, and turn in your man cards. 🐻 Edited August 29, 2018 by Zenigundam Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 29, 2018 Author Posted August 29, 2018 Most of what you say is complete and total garbage...but I DO agree with you about Gundam Unicorn! It's totally badass! I'm really hoping that Toonami's next Gundam is either Thunderbolt (18 min/ep; great spot for an interstitial) or Narrative. 1 Quote
naraku360 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 6:58 PM, OwlChemist81 said: I can't speak for the new Unlimited Blade Works series, but I had no trouble following the Heaven's Feel movie after having had only seen Fate/Zero. Fate/Zero DOES have its problems (characters pacing around during long scenes of dialog, for example), but for the most part, it's the shit, and easy to understand since it's the beginning point. Expand I've heard this scene get complaints all the time, but it's not even a very long scene. It's a solid scene for that matter. Zero is definitely slower than UBW, and I'd pose that's effectively why it's better. It gave the action more weight and made the characters more interesting since they took time to develop. Heavens feel did have some "if you want to know what we're talking about, go watch UBW" parts. Hint: don't, it won't explain much. Otherwise, I did overall like the movie 1 Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 10:32 PM, OwlChemist81 said: Most of what you say is complete and total garbage... Expand *steps to you* Take a step back. You're getting too confrontational. 1 Quote
Zenigundam Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Don't want anybody getting hurt tonight 2 Quote
naraku360 Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 12:54 AM, Zenigundam said: Don't want anybody getting hurt tonight Expand Then you should probably not get your ass kicked. 3 Quote
Blatch Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 10:32 PM, OwlChemist81 said: Most of what you say is complete and total garbage...but I DO agree with you about Gundam Unicorn! It's totally badass! I'm really hoping that Toonami's next Gundam is either Thunderbolt (18 min/ep; great spot for an interstitial) or Narrative. Expand NT is a theatrical film. As for Thunderbolt... well, you're the only person I've ever seen want it to be on Toonami, so I don't think it's going to happen. 1 Quote
Daos Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Sorry but we'd rather see these Gundamless thunderbolts 2 Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2018 Author Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 1:50 AM, Blatch said: NT is a theatrical film. As for Thunderbolt... well, you're the only person I've ever seen want it to be on Toonami, so I don't think it's going to happen. Expand Pretty sure I'm not the only one. And as for Narrative, well, so was Unicorn! Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted August 30, 2018 Author Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 3:47 AM, Daos said: Sorry but we'd rather see these Gundamless thunderbolts Expand Man, dem's some MIGHTY Thunderbolts--or should I say "Thunderboobs!?" What show is this?? Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 12:54 AM, Zenigundam said: Don't want anybody getting hurt tonight Expand Bitch Quote
Daos Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 What Owl, you've never heard of Freezing? It's basically Highschool DxD levels of fanservice with way more violence and hot girls getting their limbs chopped off. Never gonna happen on Toonami =P 1 Quote
PokeNirvash Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Well it should, it's got more action per episode than over half the block and many of the dub lines wouldn't seem out of place in one of Toonami's speech/music videos. But alas, maybe in a universe where [as] is its own network, Turner S&P isn't as stingy, and/or Demarco isn't deathly afraid of fanservice. 1 Quote
Gyaos Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 I watched IBO in complete silence, and was pissed off at the ending. I'm fine without another series. 2 Quote
Ginguy Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 IBO was good in the first season, and ended like hot garbage. 1 Quote
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