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Lebron is actually unbelievable


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1 hour ago, The Hound said:

Goat.

He's been so great for so long that he gets taken for granted. It won't be until years after he retires that people are finally like, "Oh shit, we got to see on of the top two or three players in history, in his prime, right before our eyes."

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Yeah, he's crazy good. Like Skiles said it's easy to take him for granted just because of how much he plays and how consistent he is. 

Sometimes it's obnoxious when he gets desperate and works the refs so he can shoot 15 free throws like in the last 2 games of that Pacers series, even though he already gets every 50/50 call and them some in his favor. 

And he's a pretty cancerous teammate in the sense that every team he's on has this weird half-life because it has to be the LeBron show at the expense of the next best players on the team, like he doesn't exactly make good players great as much as he makes mediocre players good and good players worse. Meanwhile he's in GM mode fully involved in all the major roster decisions. And that can only work for a few years before it breaks. 

But individually he's a monster. 

I'd still put Tim Duncan above him tho

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25 minutes ago, Nabloom said:

like he doesn't exactly make good players great as much as he makes mediocre players good and good players worse.

Well, the thing with LeBron is that all he needs to win are pretty good players around him that are contributing even a little bit. He doesn't necessarily need a second superstar, just a cast of okay guys that aren't asleep on the court every game, and he can win. He did it a couple years ago, and the fact that the Cavs are doing what they've done this year with that team is a testament to that. Look at that roster, and realize that by and large, the Cavaliers are still the favorite to come out of the East. That's bananas.

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21 hours ago, Skinko said:

Look at that roster, and realize that by and large, the Cavaliers are still the favorite to come out of the East. That's bananas.Well, the thing with LeBron is that all he needs to win are pretty good players around him that are contributing even a little bit. He doesn't necessarily need a second superstar, just a cast of okay guys that aren't asleep on the court every game, and he can win. He did it a couple years ago, and the fact that the Cavs are doing what they've done this year with that team is a testament to that. Look at that roster, and realize that by and large, the Cavaliers are still the favorite to come out of the East. That's bananas.

Lol yeah, take Kyle Korver off that team and it completely falls apart. Making the Finals this year would be a genuine feat, unlike a lot of years when it's basically by default bc LeBron is so good and the east stays so bad. 

I'm still hoping Philly can do it though, if they can even get past this random Boston team 

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2 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

Not sure what you mean, maybe you think LJ would be better at tennis?

Unlike MJ we'll never get to see LeBron spend a league-mandated vacation taking a swing at another sport because he doesn't have a horrible gambling problem 

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Just now, Nabloom said:

Unlike MJ we'll never get to see LeBron spend a league-mandated vacation taking a swing at another sport because he doesn't have a horrible gambling problem 

And unlike MJ, we'll never see :LJ with Six Championship rings.

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Just now, tsar4 said:

And unlike MJ, we'll never see :LJ with Six Championship rings.

Yeah he probably won't get to six because the competition is so much better these days than it was during the 90s when you could still be one of the best players and juggle that with alcoholism and a coke problem 

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1 minute ago, Nabloom said:

Yeah he probably won't get to six because the competition is so much better these days than it was during the 90s when you could still be one of the best players and juggle that with alcoholism and a coke problem 

There's no real competition now, compared to the 90s.

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1 minute ago, Quackers said:

ur mom has a significant figure 

Ohhh, I am so wounded.

BTW - Professional Basketball is one of the most boring sports in the world.  Ranking slightly above Golf and on par with Soccer.

 

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1 hour ago, Nabloom said:

Steph Curry would have won ten rings in the 90s

And Iverson would have been the GOAT if he practiced and trained to be a team player.

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1 minute ago, Nabloom said:

Spurs Iverson! Idk what that would even look like

we talkin bout practice.

PRACTICE.

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9 hours ago, tsar4 said:

Laimbeer would have put him in the ER before he got started.

I actually agree with you, though not completely......But I do concur that a bunch of these current superstars are only doing so well because they can draw fouls just by looking at the refs now.....The entire game has changed which is I stopped being a fan like I was in highschool.  Someone at the barber shop was telling me about Labron in the clutch and his numbers......Well, Jordan never had thoseopportunities because his team was full of gods.....

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2 hours ago, Derrick Foreal said:

I actually agree with you, though not completely......But I do concur that a bunch of these current superstars are only doing so well because they can draw fouls just by looking at the refs now.....The entire game has changed which is I stopped being a fan like I was in highschool.  Someone at the barber shop was telling me about Labron in the clutch and his numbers......Well, Jordan never had thoseopportunities because his team was full of gods.....

Gods?  Who, "The Worm"?  "The Waiter"?  Pfft.  Around here it was known as "Michael and the Jordannares".  Watch "the Flu game".

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2 hours ago, tsar4 said:

Gods?  Who, "The Worm"?  "The Waiter"?  Pfft.  Around here it was known as "Michael and the Jordannares".  Watch "the Flu game".

Welp, I was agreeing with ya, ya douche but Now I'll just leave you to continue tugging one of the few kinda memorable white player's of the NBA ever's hog for your own sap prosperity.....Bill's got a ring or 2 so I guess he's already a moot point from here on ot.

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I'm not a basketball guy, but I've heard basketball people talk about this era vs. Jordan's era and they all hate how everyone is best friends now. They loved that the original Dream Team set up "fuck Jordan" rules to make him look like shit. Fuck winning, I have to embarrass that guy because he might be as good as me.

That is competition worth watching. I'm an outsider, but the only basketball play I remember seeing was a Jordan one. He's out past the half court and calls for the ball from way behind him, one defender in front. Ball is high, Jordan jumps, shifts his weight in midair, bounces the ball behind his back and takes off in a different direction than the one he fell in. Probably a 50 degree change in lateral direction immediately after hitting the ground. Defender is long gone and Jordan makes an appropriate dunk to show off the burn he made. I saw that and knew why I knew the guy's name.

And if I ever hear people compare Tom Brady to Joe Montana I'm going to lose my fucking mind.

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46 minutes ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said:

I'm not a basketball guy, but I've heard basketball people talk about this era vs. Jordan's era and they all hate how everyone is best friends now. They loved that the original Dream Team set up "fuck Jordan" rules to make him look like shit. Fuck winning, I have to embarrass that guy because he might be as good as me.

That is competition worth watching. I'm an outsider, but the only basketball play I remember seeing was a Jordan one. He's out past the half court and calls for the ball from way behind him, one defender in front. Ball is high, Jordan jumps, shifts his weight in midair, bounces the ball behind his back and takes off in a different direction than the one he fell in. Probably a 50 degree change in lateral direction immediately after hitting the ground. Defender is long gone and Jordan makes an appropriate dunk to show off the burn he made. I saw that and knew why I knew the guy's name.

And if I ever hear people compare Tom Brady to Joe Montana I'm going to lose my fucking mind.

Why cant you be like this all the time?

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4 hours ago, CutieQuesadilla said:

This thread got messy.

Well i did start talking about AI

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23 minutes ago, Derrick Foreal said:

You still think this is Zeni, don't you.

It's not?

Welp then.

Nvm.

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2 hours ago, Derrick Foreal said:

Welp, I was agreeing with ya, ya douche but Now I'll just leave you to continue tugging one of the few kinda memorable white player's of the NBA ever's hog for your own sap prosperity.....Bill's got a ring or 2 so I guess he's already a moot point from here on ot.

I thought you were calling MJ's supporting cast "Gods".  They weren't.  Jerry Krause was in such a freakin' hurry to get himself out of MJ's shadow & "prove" he was the reason the Bulls were sooo good.  Did "No Tippin' Pippin" carry the team after MJ left?  Nope.  Did Kukoc?  Nope.  The remaining players were good, but no "Gods".

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