the full moon tonight is gonna be big

[Phillies]

look!

[NaBarney]

The moon is flat

[Phillies]

Just now, Nabloom said:

The moon is flat

no the earth is flat

[NaBarney]

That is demonstrably false.

[Ric]

I can show you a huge full moon if you'd like.

[fuggnificent]

i now believe the moon landing never happened

[Phillies]

12 minutes ago, Nabloom said:

That is demonstrably false.

Nab you can't prove it either way. You only know what the text books tell you. 

[Phillies]

9 minutes ago, Ric said:

I can show you a huge full moon if you'd like.

you'll be banned

[Hornshire]

The moon doesn't change its size.

[Phillies]

Just now, fuggnificent said:

i now believe the moon landing never happened

Honestly I think its possible it could have been a hoax. I researched it really hard, and I can't find any hard evidence either way.

what i think is interesting- the amount of power it would take to heat and cool both the lunar moduale and the individual suits- it would need to be a big battery pack, maybe even the battery tech didn't exist.

Also on the LEM.. I don't think its possible to pilot such a craft without sending it into a tail spin in zero -g.

Look at the rocket boosters on the top of the craft. they are little 4 way tiny boosters. If you even fired one of those boosters in mid flight the whole craft would start spinning out of control.

 

 

also there is no blast crater under the module- think about it it landed with a goddamn rocket firing and the dust under the unit isn't even disturbed... 

[Ric]

17 minutes ago, Phillies said:

you'll be banned

[Mewn]

Damn RIGHT! Cold Supermoon out there!

And in Gemini.

Get ready for the lolz.

<3 air moons.

Edited December 3, 2017 by Mewn

[garbagepailcat]

The moon doesn’t exist. It’s only an illusion. 

[Top Gun]

20 minutes ago, Phillies said:

Honestly I think its possible it could have been a hoax. I researched it really hard, and I can't find any hard evidence either way.

what i think is interesting- the amount of power it would take to heat and cool both the lunar moduale and the individual suits- it would need to be a big battery pack, maybe even the battery tech didn't exist.

Also on the LEM.. I don't think its possible to pilot such a craft without sending it into a tail spin in zero -g.

Look at the rocket boosters on the top of the craft. they are little 4 way tiny boosters. If you even fired one of those boosters in mid flight the whole craft would start spinning out of control.

 

 

also there is no blast crater under the module- think about it it landed with a goddamn rocket firing and the dust under the unit isn't even disturbed... 

There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin.

[fuggnificent]

20 minutes ago, Phillies said:

Honestly I think its possible it could have been a hoax. I researched it really hard, and I can't find any hard evidence either way.

what i think is interesting- the amount of power it would take to heat and cool both the lunar moduale and the individual suits- it would need to be a big battery pack, maybe even the battery tech didn't exist.

Also on the LEM.. I don't think its possible to pilot such a craft without sending it into a tail spin in zero -g.

Look at the rocket boosters on the top of the craft. they are little 4 way tiny boosters. If you even fired one of those boosters in mid flight the whole craft would start spinning out of control.

 

 

also there is no blast crater under the module- think about it it landed with a goddamn rocket firing and the dust under the unit isn't even disturbed... 

that craft would have had to have layers of lead to protect from the bands of radiation that exists between earth and space

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

[Phillies]

6 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin.

You know how cold or hot it gets on the surface of the moon?? The astronauts were on the surface for 3 days...  so something had to cool and heat them.. you have any idea how much power that would take?? What you think they had an AC on the module ? you know how much power that would suck out of a battery?? and the suits?? 

 

And another thing.....  you expect me to believe any human in their right mind would get on that module? its never been tested before the first mission (where it didn't technically land). 

 

So actually I don't have a position on this topic- I just think its possible we didn't land.  

[Phillies]

8 minutes ago, fuggnificent said:

that craft would have had to have layers of lead to protect from the bands of radiation that exists between earth and space

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

Yeah its also possible NASA knew of a place where there was a hole in the bands. Or perhaps there was some secret shielding technology.. remember they wouldn't tell us either way.

Yeah America the land of the free, but nope we won't disclose science will we. Gotta keep that top secret along with what happened at Roswell. 

[fuggnificent]

1 minute ago, Phillies said:

Yeah its also possible NASA knew of a place where there was a hole in the bands. Or perhaps there was some secret shielding technology.. remember they wouldn't tell us either way.

Yeah America the land of the free, but nope we won't disclose science will we. Gotta keep that top secret along with what happened at Roswell. 

notice how we have never gone back??? because we never went in the first place. its not possible... we dont have the technology now and we sure as hell didnt have it back then. 

[Bouvre]

[Phillies]

30 minutes ago, fuggnificent said:

notice how we have never gone back??? because we never went in the first place. its not possible... we dont have the technology now and we sure as hell didnt have it back then. 

Yeah but there is no reason to go back. And no point in spending the money. My mom's old car didn't even have power windows in 1969

[Hornshire]

59 minutes ago, fuggnificent said:

that craft would have had to have layers of lead to protect from the bands of radiation that exists between earth and space

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

From the article you linked:

Quote

The astronauts had low exposure in the Van Allen belts due to the short period of time spent flying through them. Apollo flight trajectories bypassed the inner belts completely, and only passed through the thinner areas of the outer belts.[25][32]

Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field.

Regarding not having been back :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon (since you seem to take Wikipedia at face value)

We understand you can't help being a moron. But maybe try not to be so vocal about it, please?

[fuggnificent]

6 minutes ago, Kweerie said:

From the article you linked:

Regarding not having been back :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon (since you seem to take Wikipedia at face value)

We understand you can't help being a moron. But maybe try not to be so vocal about it, please?

we have not been back to the moon, idiot. how about you do REAL research before you start calling people morons fuckface. did you even read the entire wikipedia article?

 

https://www.space.com/7015-40-years-moon-landing-hard.html

[fuggnificent]

14 minutes ago, Phillies said:

Yeah but there is no reason to go back. And no point in spending the money. My mom's old car didn't even have power windows in 1969

i think those are all lies and excuses. it never happened.. NASA only has the ability to launch people into Earth's orbit and thats it. 

[Ginguy]

 

[Hornshire]

Yes. We did, in fact, read it.

Apollo 12    14 November 1969    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander    Success
Apollo 14    31 January 1971    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander    Success
Apollo 15    26 July 1971    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander/Rover    Success
Apollo 16    16 April 1972    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander/Rover    Success
Apollo 17    7 December 1972    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander/Rover    Success

It says we've gone back 5 times. 

How bout you know what the fuck you're talking about if you don't want to be called a moron?

[fuggnificent]

8 minutes ago, Kweerie said:

Yes. We did, in fact, read it.

Apollo 12    14 November 1969    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander    Success
Apollo 14    31 January 1971    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander    Success
Apollo 15    26 July 1971    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander/Rover    Success
Apollo 16    16 April 1972    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander/Rover    Success
Apollo 17    7 December 1972    Saturn V    United States NASA    Manned Orbiter/Lander/Rover    Success

It says we've gone back 5 times. 

How bout you know what the fuck you're talking about if you don't want to be called a moron?

ok so i  read it wrong... its been 40 years.. whatevah.. still a huge lie

Edited December 4, 2017 by fuggnificent

[tsar4]

Optical Illusion

[Hornshire]

According to NASA:
https://www.history.nasa.gov/ap11-35ann/missions.html

 

Apollo 11

July 16-24, 1969

Crew: Neil A. Armstrong, Michael Collins, Edwin E. "Buzz" Aldrin, Jr.

Half of Apollo’s primary goal—a safe return—was achieved at 4:17 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time on July 20, when Armstrong piloted "Eagle" to a touchdown on the Moon, with less than 30 seconds worth of fuel left in the Lunar Module. Six hours later, Armstrong took his famous "one giant leap for mankind." Aldrin joined him, and the two spent two-and-a-half hours drilling core samples, photographing what they saw, and collecting rocks. After more than 21 hours on the lunar surface, they returned to Collins on board "Columbia," bringing 20.87 kilograms of lunar samples with them. The two Moon-walkers had left behind scientific instruments, an American flag, and other mementos, including a plaque bearing the inscription: "Here Men From Planet Earth First Set Foot Upon The Moon. July 1969 A.D. We Came In Peace For All Mankind."

 

Apollo 12

November 14-24, 1969

Crew: Charles "Pete" Conrad, Jr., Richard F. Gordon, Jr., Alan L. Bean

The second lunar landing was an exercise in precision targeting. The descent was automatic, with only a few manual corrections by Conrad. The landing, in the Ocean of Storms, brought the Lunar Module "Intrepid" within walking distance—182.88 meters—of a robot spacecraft that had touched down there two-and-a-half years earlier. Conrad and Bean brought pieces of the Surveyor 3 back to Earth for analysis, and took two Moon-walks lasting just under four hours each. They collected rocks and set up experiments that measured the Moon’s seismicity, solar wind flux, and magnetic field. Meanwhile Gordon, on board the "Yankee Clipper" in lunar orbit, took multispectral photographs of the surface. The crew stayed an extra day in lunar orbit taking photographs. When "Intrepid’s" ascent stage was dropped onto the Moon after Conrad and Bean rejoined Gordon in orbit, the seismometers the astronauts had left on the lunar surface registered the vibrations for more than an hour.

 

Apollo 14

January 31-February 9, 1971

Crew: Alan B. Shepard, Jr., Stuart A. Roosa, Edgar D. Mitchell

After landing in the Fra Mauro region—the original destination for Apollo 13—Shepard and Mitchell took two Moon-walks, adding new seismic studies to the by-now familiar Apollo experiment package, and using a "lunar rickshaw" pull-cart to carry their equipment. A planned rock-collecting trip to the 1,000-foot-wide Cone Crater was dropped, however, when the astronauts had trouble finding their way around the lunar surface. Although later estimates showed that they had made it to within 30.48 meters of the crater’s rim, the explorers had become disoriented in the alien landscape. Roosa, meanwhile, took pictures from on board the Command Module "Kitty Hawk" in lunar orbit. On the way back to Earth, the crew conducted the first U.S. materials processing experiments in space. The Apollo 14 astronauts were the last lunar explorers to be quarantined on their return from the Moon.

 

Apollo 15

July 26-August 7, 1971

Crew: David R. Scott, James B. Irwin, Alfred M. Worden

The first of the longer, expedition-style lunar landing missions was also the first to include the lunar rover, a carlike vehicle that extended the astronauts’ range. The Lunar Module "Falcon" touched down near the sinuous channel known as Hadley Rille. Scott and Irwin rode more than 27.36 kilometers in their rover, and had a free hand in their geological field studies compared to earlier lunar astronauts. They brought back one of the prize trophies of the Apollo program—a sample of ancient lunar crust nicknamed the "Genesis Rock." Apollo 15 also launched a small subsatellite for measuring particles and fields in the lunar vicinity. On the way back to Earth, Worden, who had flown solo on board "Endeavor" while his crewmates walked on the surface, conducted the first spacewalk between Earth and the Moon to retrieve film from the side of the spacecraft.

 

Apollo 16

April 16-27, 1972

Crew: John W. Young, Thomas K. Mattingly II, Charles M. Duke, Jr.

A malfunction in the main propulsion system of the Lunar Module "Orion" nearly caused their Moon landing to be scrubbed, but Young and Duke ultimately spent three days exploring the Descartes highland region, while Mattingly circled overhead in "Casper." What was thought to have been a region of volcanism turned out not to be, based on the astronauts’ discoveries. Their collection of returned specimens included a 11.34-kilogram chunk that was the largest single rock returned by the Apollo astronauts. The Apollo 16 astronauts also conducted performance tests with the lunar rover, at one time getting up to a top speed of 17.70 kilometers per hour.

 

Apollo 17

December 7-19, 1972

Crew: Eugene A. Cernan, Ronald E. Evans, Harrison H. "Jack" Schmitt

At the end of this last Apollo mission Eugene Cernan earned the distinction of becoming the last human to stand on the Moon -- so far. While Ronald Evans circled in America, Jack Schmitt and Cernan collected a record 108.86 kilograms of rocks during three Moon-walks. The crew roamed for 33.80 kilometers through the Taurus-Littrow valley in their rover, discovered orange-colored soil, and left behind a plaque attached to their lander "Challenger," which read: "Here Man completed his first exploration of the Moon, December 1972 A.D. May the spirit of peace in which we came be reflected in the lives of all mankind." The Apollo lunar program had ended.

...

Know. What the fuck. You're talking about.

Moron.

[Mewn]

Have my babies, Kweerie <33

[StarPanda]

That's what she said

[Ginguy]

Moon landing conspiracies?

That's a new level of stupid, congratulations I suppose....

[Top Gun]

1 hour ago, fuggnificent said:

that craft would have had to have layers of lead to protect from the bands of radiation that exists between earth and space

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

As already noted, the Apollo astronauts spent a very limited amount of time passing through the Van Allen belts, so their radiation exposure was minimal.  Biological damage from radiation is a function of the length of the exposure.  The Apollo trajectories were specifically designed to avoid the inner Van Allen belt and to pass through a relatively thinner portion of the outer belt, further limiting exposure time.  Seriously, even a basic understanding of how radiation works would prove this claim bullshit.

1 hour ago, Phillies said:

You know how cold or hot it gets on the surface of the moon?? The astronauts were on the surface for 3 days...  so something had to cool and heat them.. you have any idea how much power that would take?? What you think they had an AC on the module ? you know how much power that would suck out of a battery?? and the suits?? 

 

And another thing.....  you expect me to believe any human in their right mind would get on that module? its never been tested before the first mission (where it didn't technically land). 

 

So actually I don't have a position on this topic- I just think its possible we didn't land.  

Heating wasn't a significant issue, as the landings took place completely on the lit side of the Moon.  (A vacuum is also a spectacular insulator, so the main issue in spaceflight is usually eliminating heat, not generating it.  The Lunar Module featured both passive and active cooling systems.  See the shiny gold/silver foil-type material that covered most of the lower descent stage?  Those were thermal insulation blankets designed to reflect most of the Sun's thermal radiation.  The upper ascent stage, where the crew cabin was, featured an active cooling system with coolant loops and a heat exchanger, much as the International Space Station does today.  The astronauts' suits featured much smaller active cooling systems, as modern-day spacesuits do as well.  The power requirements weren't really all that excessive, as all you had to do was run pumps to circulate the coolant fluid around the cabin/spacesuit and through the heat exchanger.  The Lunar Module's descent stage had large battery packs that were more than capable of generating power for 2-3 days.

And you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, as the Lunar Module received extensive testing before the Apollo 11 landing.  Apollo 5 was the first unmanned test flight of the LM, and Apollo 9 was a manned test of the entire Apollo spacecraft in Earth orbit that went through docking/undocking and maneuvering procedures.  Apollo 10 was the "dress rehearsal" for the actual landing; its Lunar Module descended to within 10 miles of the lunar surface.  And that's not even counting the ridiculous amount of testing the spacecraft received on the ground.  Did you really think they just stuck it up on Apollo 11 and said "welp hope this works"?

This legitimately pisses me off.  The lunar landing was by far the greatest accomplishment in all of human history, and yet drooling morons who couldn't even pass a high school physics course sit there and proclaim that it was all fake because they don't have the intelligence to understand what the fuck they're talking about.

[fuggnificent]

1 minute ago, Ginguy said:

Moon landing conspiracies?

That's a new level of stupid, congratulations I suppose....

yah none of "them" happened and now all "footage" has been mysteriously "lost" or "erased" so it cant even be investigated

[SlappyKincaid]

 

[Phillies]

32 minutes ago, fuggnificent said:

i think those are all lies and excuses. it never happened.. NASA only has the ability to launch people into Earth's orbit and thats it. 

I think we might have gotten them around the moon... not sure if the LEM actually landed or even existed.  Although it wouldn't surprise me if it was 100% hoax, as in the astronauts didn't even board the Saturn Rocket. They just went underground bunker and the fake ass Saturn V launched but didn't do shit.

[Top Gun]

1 minute ago, fuggnificent said:

yah none of "them" happened and now all "footage" has been mysteriously "lost" or "erased" so it cant even be investigated

What the actual fuck are you talking about.  We have tens of thousands of photographs and dozens of hours' worth of video from the lunar spacewalks.  Do you even attempt to think before you type?

[Misaka]

2 hours ago, Ric said:

Don't worry Phillies will be hit instead 

[fuggnificent]

3 minutes ago, Phillies said:

I think we might have gotten them around the moon... not sure if the LEM actually landed or even existed.  Although it wouldn't surprise me if it was 100% hoax, as in the astronauts didn't even board the Saturn Rocket. They just went underground bunker and the fake ass Saturn V launched but didn't do shit.

they blew up a section of flagstaff, az to look like the moon

[SlappyKincaid]

1 minute ago, fuggnificent said:

they blew up a section of flagstaff, az to look like the moon

Yeah, and Stanley Kubrick directed the whole thing, which is why Shelley Duvalle has PTSD, because he pumped Jack Nicholson full of coke and they took turns screaming at her.

 

Wait, what are we talking about?

[Ginguy]

6 minutes ago, fuggnificent said:

yah none of "them" happened and now all "footage" has been mysteriously "lost" or "erased" so it cant even be investigated

 

I could go on, but at this point I'll settle for you putting down the lead paint chips....

 

[fuggnificent]

whoops..we erased it 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes/moon-landing-tapes-got-erased-nasa-admits-idUSTRE56F5MK20090716

[Phillies]

1 minute ago, Top Gun said:

As already noted, the Apollo astronauts spent a very limited amount of time passing through the Van Allen belts, so their radiation exposure was minimal.  Biological damage from radiation is a function of the length of the exposure.  The Apollo trajectories were specifically designed to avoid the inner Van Allen belt and to pass through a relatively thinner portion of the outer belt, further limiting exposure time.  Seriously, even a basic understanding of how radiation works would prove this claim bullshit.

Heating wasn't a significant issue, as the landings took place completely on the lit side of the Moon.  (A vacuum is also a spectacular insulator, so the main issue in spaceflight is usually eliminating heat, not generating it.  The Lunar Module featured both passive and active cooling systems.  See the shiny gold/silver foil-type material that covered most of the lower descent stage?  Those were thermal insulation blankets designed to reflect most of the Sun's thermal radiation.  The upper ascent stage, where the crew cabin was, featured an active cooling system with coolant loops and a heat exchanger, much as the International Space Station does today.  The astronauts' suits featured much smaller active cooling systems, as modern-day spacesuits do as well.  The power requirements weren't really all that excessive, as all you had to do was run pumps to circulate the coolant fluid around the cabin/spacesuit and through the heat exchanger.  The Lunar Module's descent stage had large battery packs that were more than capable of generating power for 2-3 days.

And you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, as the Lunar Module received extensive testing before the Apollo 11 landing.  Apollo 5 was the first unmanned test flight of the LM, and Apollo 9 was a manned test of the entire Apollo spacecraft in Earth orbit that went through docking/undocking and maneuvering procedures.  Apollo 10 was the "dress rehearsal" for the actual landing; its Lunar Module descended to within 10 miles of the lunar surface.  And that's not even counting the ridiculous amount of testing the spacecraft received on the ground.  Did you really think they just stuck it up on Apollo 11 and said "welp hope this works"?

This legitimately pisses me off.  The lunar landing was by far the greatest accomplishment in all of human history, and yet drooling morons who couldn't even pass a high school physics course sit there and proclaim that it was all fake because they don't have the intelligence to understand what the fuck they're talking about.

Look you can clearly see in this actual photo how fake the LEM is. I can see shiny gold tin foil and also regular house hold aluminum foil. Black cardboard, there is canvas, ducktape, this is clearly bull shit. Stage prop- fuggz kids could have built it in middle school. art class.

 

Now look at this:  

 

So the top half of that little thing flies off and it magically goes into space to connect with the orbiter?? you expect me to believe that??

 

[SlappyKincaid]

You honestly think Cold War era Russia would "play along" and let us claim to have made it to the moon?  They had spies who learned about the atomic bomb before it was even tested, you mean to tell me they didn't have someone keeping tabs?  If we faked it, they would've outed us in a hot minute.

And all the rest of the major powers in the world, they also all just went along with it too.  Yep.

[Phillies]

Just now, Ginguy said:

 

I could go on, but at this point I'll settle for you putting down the lead paint chips....

 

How do you know it wasn't filmed in a ware house? It wouldn't be that hard.

[fuggnificent]

1 minute ago, SlappyKincaid said:

You honestly think Cold War era Russia would "play along" and let us claim to have made it to the moon?  They had spies who learned about the atomic bomb before it was even tested, you mean to tell me they didn't have someone keeping tabs?  If we faked it, they would've outed us in a hot minute.

And all the rest of the major powers in the world, they also all just went along with it too.  Yep.

Russia has questioned the original landing and asked for the tapes and NASA said they no longer had them.

[Phillies]

Just now, SlappyKincaid said:

You honestly think Cold War era Russia would "play along" and let us claim to have made it to the moon?  They had spies who learned about the atomic bomb before it was even tested, you mean to tell me they didn't have someone keeping tabs?  If we faked it, they would've outed us in a hot minute.

And all the rest of the major powers in the world, they also all just went along with it too.  Yep.

They wouldn't know. They would appear as fools for having accused us. 

[Top Gun]

Y'know while I'm sitting here pissed off I'm gonna hit on one or two other points just to clear the air:

2 hours ago, Phillies said:

Also on the LEM.. I don't think its possible to pilot such a craft without sending it into a tail spin in zero -g.

Look at the rocket boosters on the top of the craft. they are little 4 way tiny boosters. If you even fired one of those boosters in mid flight the whole craft would start spinning out of control.

 

 

also there is no blast crater under the module- think about it it landed with a goddamn rocket firing and the dust under the unit isn't even disturbed... 

Why would the reaction control system thrusters send the entire craft into a spin?  They were computer-controlled and fired in the required combinations to maintain a low rotation rate.  They also produced fairly weak thrust individually, as do any RCS thrusters.

And there's no "blast crater" because the lunar surface consists of a relatively shallow layer of dust on top of a rocky underlayer, and at the point of touchdown the Lunar Module's descent stage engine was throttled down to a low thrust velocity.  You'd see the same lack of a crater if you fired the engine on a patch of dirt here on Earth.  As it stands the engine did kick up lunar dust, as can be clearly seen on the landing videos, and it left a starburst pattern underneath the lander.

[fuggnificent]

9/11 was a controlled demolitian

the moon landings are fake

your govt lies to you
 

GOODNIGHT

[Ginguy]

Fuggs: Quit eating lead paint chips.

Phillies : Get a fucking job

Both of you: Stop setting the bar for fucking obtuse.

 

 

 

[SlappyKincaid]

Yall been getting too many vaccines, because you guys is retarded