Jman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I mean, Netflix will pick up anything: http://southpark.cc.com/clips/birfp7/youre-green-lit But considering the level of complaints, is it bad, or really just overblown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Well, you know that there are many good people on both sides of the debate. I think DeMarco's being paranoid, but it's probably due to a lack of self-care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It's pretty bad. Netflix is pretty much killing Cable TV! https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-10-12/pay-tv-s-salad-days-are-gone-in-painful-time-for-at-t-viacom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 A little bit of both sides have truth to them. Netflix has definitely been picking up shows that would probably have been on Toonami otherwise, but I doubt they're doing it out of any sort of specific malice to Toonami. It's competition, is all it is. DeMarco is, honestly, just being paranoid and whiny about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 There's tons of stuff Demarco could get that Netflix doesn't have. Did Netflix get Mob Psycho? What ever happened with that? How about Gate and Overlord? Netflix has just been very adept and avoiding big name trash shows that would burn up the budget like Super, TG and Gundam... and getting hits out of nowhere like Kakegurui and the new established hits like MHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Column A and Column B pretty much. While Netflix's general acquisitions are not specifically targeted at everything and anything Toonami, there have been a lot of times where something that was being actively sought was then snagged by someone else. Considering how much is out there to chose from, after awhile coincidence doesn't really cut it. It's why so often now nothing gets said anymore about what is currently on the table - no point is saying that yes, [insert anime here] is almost here because someone else might just go after it just to sit on it. Think of SyFyllis and their 'Ani-Monday' acquisition - virtually the entire Manga Entertainment library. Which they then proceeded to waste completely until the licensing ran out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Netflix is trying to screw EVERYTHING on cable, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 A little bit of both sides have truth to them. Netflix has definitely been picking up shows that would probably have been on Toonami otherwise, but I doubt they're doing it out of any sort of specific malice to Toonami. It's competition, is all it is. DeMarco is, honestly, just being paranoid and whiny about it. Toonami kind of dug their own grave when they became more successful. Because they're bigger and have a bigger rep, it means they now need to compete with the other big players. The problem is that those other players beat them 100% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Toonami kind of dug their own grave when they became more successful. Because they're bigger and have a bigger rep, it means they now need to compete with the other big players. The problem is that those other players beat them 100% of the time. You know it's not healthy to be so stupidly pessimistic, right? If their failure rate was 100%, the block wouldn't have aired as many shows as they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I am being realistic, just like everyone else here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Toonami kind of dug their own grave when they became more successful. Because they're bigger and have a bigger rep, it means they now need to compete with the other big players. The problem is that those other players beat them 100% of the time. No. We really don't know HOW MANY people are watching Netflix originals, because they won't tell us. It's still quite possible that Dragon Ball Super's 900K-ish viewers during Toonami beat the hell out of whatever the hell Piracy-stumped Little Witch Academia did in the first night it came out! Is streaming that damn popular? We really don't know. Only clues we have are when music videos cross the one billion views mark, like when Carly Ray Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe" crossed that mark earlier this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 You know Netflix is getting more viewers by sheer word of mouth. They're simply a bigger force than Toonami financially. That said they probably don't see Toonami as a direct competitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I would say those other players didn't beat them with Samurai Jack, and of course One Punch Man last year. Dragon Ball Super also showed promise, but it kinda got mired in stupidity since it's showing glorified reruns to kick off the block! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I am being realistic, just like everyone else here. Well, calling a 100% failure rate "realistic" is really fucking off the mark, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Do I think Netflix is some cartoonish villain, twirling its evil mustache while they pick up specific shows just to spite Toonami? No. I think it's much more likely that Netflix being a bigger company with a larger budget is simply able to outbid Toonami on a regular basis whenever they're interested in a series. I imagine they're both looking at the same data and watching for the same trends, and are probably gonna come to similar conclusions about what would be a good investment around the same time. Netflix isn't targeting Toonami specifically; they don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I am being realistic, just like everyone else here. sorry Elfie but in this instance I gotta agree that saying Toonami has a 100% failure rate in picking up show licenses is a gross exaggeration ::]:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Toonami kind of dug their own grave when they became more successful. Because they're bigger and have a bigger rep, it means they now need to compete with the other big players. The problem is that those other players beat them 100% of the time. Definitely not 100% of the time; Toonami can still get a good show here or there. Everyone else is right: Netflix has the money and the resources to get most of the big name shows. If they get a show and it turns out to be a flop, it's not as big of a deal for them: they have 10 others shows they picked up that will probably do well. Toonami, by nature of being a cable TV block, doesn't have that luxury. If they get a show, and it's a flop, it's a lot more costly for them. IMO this is why Toonami should try to focus on lesser known or less exposed. It's obvious they can't compete with Netflix in terms of money, exposure, or pickups, so they shouldn't try to do so. It probably won't help ratings, but neither will continuing on the current path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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