Toonamiguy321

What’s with the “when the budget resets” cope? This IS the budget reset schedule. For anyone in doubt, revisit the AssClass S2 promo. I’ll save you some clicks, air date - 1/1/22. Budget resets January 1, and it looks like Toonami is going into 2025 with a significantly reduced one. I have to agree with Brian, if there was a near future plan, Mashle would not have been elevated to midnight. They are likely parking that there for 6 weeks till it ends S1. I’d also argue as it’s a new year and One Piece is reset, they could have burned 1-2 weeks on double OP for an easily flexible slot + silent statement something new is around the corner. The singular piece of flexibility they have given themselves is 12:30 IFG, which if they do utilize, will have the bad optics of being demoted from 12:30 to 3. I’m sure this isn’t what you want to hear, as you seem dead set on Sailor Moon continuing, but maybe it’s just not and there never was a plan to do so? Naruto is there, but Naruto has unaired episodes still. If they start where Rewind left on, it will be a safe bet they won’t renew the show. They are sitting at a pitiful 2 show premier block, it’s weird to me seeing people advocate for one of the first years purchases to be an expensive rerun.

Ok, I know I’m usually a doomer but a lot of it is theatrics for laughs and I’m not usually that worried. Now I’m genuinely worried about the future here. I always thought Daima would be a longshot for them just because of its status, but I always felt MHA S7 was a sure thing once the budget reset. Instead we are getting a heaping helping of nothing. A garbo marathon to start the year of a show that should be left in 2024 doesn’t inspire much confidence. Mash up front, ok that’s good news, the singular show on this block worth watching is in the lead slot so at least I can go to bed at 12:30 IFG reruns at 12:30? Fucking why? Another thing that should be left in 2024, not clogging up the second slot. Those Naruto episodes better be picking up from where Rewind stopped and then not getting renewed when they run out. Imagine that shit starting back over from episode 1. Same feeling for Kai, exhaust the license then let it go. I assume the way they adjusted the Rewind schedule was not due to episode limits but rather due to wanting Rewind to end on Goku going super saiyan. Why the fuck is Rick still on the schedule when it’s doing a full series marathon on the 28th? A third thing that should stay in 2024. Two fucking premiers. Seven slots, two premiers. You thought three would be the record low but here we are, a few months later at two. Not a lot of hope for this schedule being temporary either. Best case scenario would be IFG moving to 3 when Rick ends and then something new going there. I’d assume Mashle in the lead is preparation for it to be replaced by Lazarus in February.

A 5pm Friday audience is not going to migrate to 2am or later, it’s just not gonna happen. The audience got the full S1 experience, they should be happy with that and move on. People got their chance with these shows and blew it, no sense having them tank Saturday too.

They don’t need to be on cable. They were already on cable in the past. Give something else a chance. There isn’t even a streaming wars for these shows. They are readily and freely available on a variety of services. And when you watch them that way, you don’t have to sit through over 100 shitty filler episodes of Naruto.

I had a shower theory I had to trash a few minute later when I realized the promo debunks it. As we know the BE rerun is tanking ratings for OP, on Jan 4 they blow through 7 “new” episodes. That gets us within the strike zone of the filler, which they can just not air at all, and start S2 sometime in January. Would be neat, but the promo tells us that won’t be happening. My absolute favorite ones are the ones who are 100% certain Rewind was doing amazing. Based on, absolutely nothing because we have never seen its ratings. And completely ignoring the schedule choices that indicate the block was NOT doing well.

They just dropped the official word, Rewind is cancelled. Enjoy laughing at those who were high on copium.

You included far too many. The original gag was all Fox shows that had been cancelled. Stuff like Made in Abyss just aired to completion, or Samurai Jack adapted the end of its story and had nothing more to make. And then I see things like Johnny Bravo in there that just didn’t air in the first place.

Good, that means you are one of the few people not overdosing on copium. Quite a few people on Twitter, Reddit, etc genuinely believe Rewind is fine and is just taking a night off entirely on the 3rd because ????? and will miraculously come back at 2 hours on the 10th.

Does it even matter? Within two weeks he will turn it back on. There is no way he can avoid making comments on a certain event happening on January 20th. How many times has he left social media now? I figure there are a few options. 1. It actually is an IFG marathon, but they only recently decided to do it so the late night AS shows have not been removed from the schedule yet. Remember, we are looking 3 full weeks ahead here. 2. The promos are not 100% accurate, as they often have been in the past. Blue Exorcist may not be off on Jan 4, with either MHA or DS airing their 1 hour premier. Certainly not an option to write off with how often promos have been straight up incorrect in recent years. 3. Daima does a 3 episode drop as those episodes have already technically premiered, and Toonami proceeds to operate one day off of Crunchyroll. 4. Standard length block where they marathon something else just to burn time. Not sure why they would want to start the year this way but it’s possible. 5. Some kind of event meant to send off Rewind. Honestly probably in their better interest to just hide its end as much as possible given how desperate many people are to believe it isn’t dead.

Most of the copium I have seen is that Jan 4 is too close to the new year for them to get any rights (even though we have seen them secure new year content almost immediately when the clock rolls over) and that the Family Guy marathon is somehow the cause. So if the schedule on Friday drops with no Rewind, that should put an end to the cope. No copium huffers ever have an answer for why they didn’t just air an hour of Kai for the delay.

It seems like the critics hate it, but the few people who actually did pay to see it enjoyed their time. At the end of the day, this is a VERY deep cut in the LotR lore, you have to be a die hard LotR fan to even know what this is adapting. This is something that probably shouldn’t have been a theater release. But I guess they had to theater release something to keep the IP or something, so this was more of a necessary bill than anything else.

Online schedule still shows a 7 slot gap for Jan 4 so it doesn’t seem to be. And that’s a good thing, they should focus on making the block we have not suck so hard before they even think about adding more time.

The rest of Saturday just populated, the missing Toonami chunk still comes out to 7 slots. So maybe not an IFG marathon? It’s not unheard of for late night Saturday schedules to change after posting though. If it’s not a marathon though, the only thing that makes sense is a 3 episode Daima premier. Episode one would probably be a 45 minute slot. But it’s unthinkable that Crunchyroll would agree to that, even with pressure from Toei.

It certainly is looking more like multiple shows are incoming at once. If it is those two, it makes Lazarus kind of tricky to work around since I highly doubt its premier will wait till early summer. There are shorter options though. If Demon Slayer is one of the choices, that’s only 8 weeks. Of course, that means it has to have an hour premier on Jan 11th

Another interesting observation is timeslots were not given for either show. If it is Daima, Mashle should still stay at 12:30. So that means it’s either more than one new show, or they are shuffling things are just for funsies. Uh oh, Demarco having a tantrum about leaving social media usually comes on the heels of disastrous Toonami news. Why would he leave before soaking up the positive attention from getting Daima?

Blue Exorcist also out till the 11th, so it’s a marathon

Mashle promo tonight states it will not return until Jan 11th, so something is happening on the 4th. Let’s see what the Blue Exorcist promo says. If it stays on the 4th, that means the new midnight show is a 1 hour premier. If it’s gone, it’s a marathon night.

I don’t mind the delays on getting shows, my concern is them actually getting shows. Take the current schedule for example, it is way too light in quality, acquired content that the block has not aired before. That is not sustainable. Earlier in the year though when we had 5 premiers and 3 of them were decent? That’s good enough for me in 2024. Most “toonamicore” shows are things I would never watch on my own regardless, so when the block gets them, they still feel new. Mashle is the first show in a very long time that I have watched prior to its Toonami run, purely due to thinking Aniplex shows were off the table for good. Thankfully I only watched S1, so going forward it’s all new to me again. There are not many new to Toonami show options that I would thumbs down. Even bad shows can be fun to watch. My single factor I usually cite for a bad show choice is if it’s really boring. Block is on way too late for shows that are a grind to finish a single episode of.

Interesting thing happening here though. The critics are not being kind to it, but the audience seems to have a very favorable view of it. Yet, that is contrasted with its dismal box office numbers.

The BE thing is a toss up. It’s clearly killing the OP ratings, but they also are doing the weekly promos and pretending it’s not a rerun so that might persist into the new year. Also, I did put down Naruto for stating over. Id be genuinely shocked if they manage to nail down Daima and MHA at same time. Even more so since Lazarus just dropped another key visual, further cementing my expectations of a Feb-March premier. That would drop MHA down to 1a for half its run, something I don’t expect them to want to do. Toonami does not need to add more time just to be half reruns. I recall not long ago I was treated as insane and unreasonable for expecting them to pay money for anything beyond 2am. Now it’s openly suggested they pay money for 4am reruns which is downright silly. The only reason I even float this schedule as a possibility is because there should have been a Saturday schedule update today. However, if there was, and Sailor Moon or Naruto moved into the rerun section, that’s an unintentional confirmation that Rewind is dead, something they seem to not want to admit till the last possible moment. I really want to be wrong on this prediction, because it just sucks turbo ass. If it was up to me, I think January should be used as a reset, especially now that’s it’s confirmed there will be no more Rewind eating up the budget. 12 - Daima or MHA S7 12:30 - Mashle 1:00 - Blue Exorcist (swapping to S2 when canon content ends) 1:30 - another premier 2:00 - One Piece 2:30 - the one and only rerun New year, new budget, new shows. None of this side crap siphoning funds.

I expect this as well. Checkered Past gets a phase out period because it’s free to operate. Rewind was not extended that courtesy as it would cost money and be a harder pill to swallow after the block seemingly dodged the new years cuts. Here’s a January 4th schedule that I came up with in the shower and greatly fear 12 - Daima or MHA S7 12:30 - Mashle 1 - One Piece 1:30 - Blue Exorcist 2 - Sailor Moon (S1 ep 1) 2:30 - DBZ Kai 3 - Naruto (S1 ep 1) A sickening amount of reruns and long runners leaving very little flexibility to the schedule for the entire year. But very in line with how they have operated in the past to pinch pennies that will never be used to the block’s benefit.

I am enjoying myself basking in their tears. I’ll never understand why the Toonami audience specifically is so incapable of even the slightest bit of critical thinking. Even now, I have still seen a few fringe posts of people saying not to worry and that Rewind will be back at full power the following week. They just haven’t secured Sailor Moon R yet, trust the plan. While the Rewind team never cared to hide schedule updates, the Saturday team does, so I doubt we will get a peek of anything tomorrow night except for maybe a timeslot confirmation, since if we lose or gain time, it will be reflected in the blank schedule.

I consider outright cancelling it to be a plan. Now, as long as Saturday doesn’t becoming a dumping ground for those old shows no one was watching, we are looking good. Let the Kai license lapse and get that shit off of Saturdays and let’s have a good 2025. Now the question, will TOM give us a bang?

It’s in the hands of the real audience now rather than just paid shills. The fact paid shills could only hold it up to 67% should have been a red flag. As much as I’d love to see it, it’s too late to toss Demarco out and get someone new. If it gets to that point, AS would sooner just cut their losses and can the whole block. But I agree, if the new norm is just 3 premiers (where one of them is eternally One Piece so really only 2), maybe it’s time for TOM to sign off. That said, if Toonami does end, that’s the end of the road for anime on AS. Yea, it doesn’t NEED Toonami to air, but the reason Toonami sucks is they can’t consistently get anime, or I guess in Demarco’s case, won’t settle for B shows. So there isn’t even a point in getting any without Toonami.

On a scale of 1 to Joever, where are we at right now?