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If they want to keep up the girls with guns slot, GGO would be a decent pick. It also helps with Demarco’s usual struggles with picking a total unknown. I can’t remember if the 2017 BE is a permanent Hulu exclusive or not, but I do think the 2024 one is fair game.

That’s the wrong way to look at it. The block is never going to lure in a huge wave of lapsed viewers. The goal is keeping existing viewers engaged, and if we are lucky, grab a couple old ones back. I think Ninja Kamui and Lycoris lay out a good blueprint for what an enjoyable Toonami show needs. 1. Action. This is the most important factor. There are so many “good” shows that Demarco likes to gravitate towards like Gundam that simply do not have enough action and that’s why people fade on them. People would much rather see a mediocre, but action dense show over a snoozefest that dullards who write for journalist sites watched and think makes them smart for liking. Remember, AgK was panned super hard when it was announced for the block then it had a ratings explosion the likes we have never seen. The story sucked but at least it was fun to watch. 2. Reasonable length. The era of long runners ended quite a few years ago. Nobody wants to commit the next 1XX+ weekends to Toonami. 12-26 weekends? Much more reasonable. A show people can pick up and actually have a realistic chance of finishing. It’s hard to justify jumping into Naruto this late in the game, and watching OP (especially Dressrosa) without being able to skip the first 7-12 minutes of the episode isn’t very appealing either. 3. Age. Keep it in the era of HD. The audience just does not click with older content for some reason. 8-10 years old? Seems to be fine considering AssClass did great, but it seems viability starts to drop rapidly around the 2010 mark. It’s that simple. It’s always been that simple, but Demarco is as stubborn as they come. They obviously have money to burn if Kai was an option, so phone up Aniplex and start thumbing through their catalog.

It doesn’t matter if it’s generic or not, what matters is if it’s engaging to watch. So far, each episode has had one major action stretch, and each has been abnormally well animated. The audience wants to be entertained, simple as that. If I had to take a guess for this weeks dip, the entire first stretch of the episode was pretty slow and people faded early before the payoff at the end of the episode.

People tune in if the content is new and enjoyable. The numbers are likely never going over 300k again, but if we can keep 1-2 slots in the 200k range each week that’s good enough for 2024. Nobody is going to commit another 4 years to watching Kai over again, and that bleeds up to Naruto which people may not have been following and are not invested without a shorter carrot (IGPX in this example) after it, and OP which is just not viable to jump into on cable unless again, it’s background noise to keep you awake for something later. It didn’t tank the entire block. There are two quadrants here. Ninja Kamui is a simple return to the center after some early interest died off. Why now? Can’t say, I think the show has been solid each episode so far. But 165k is well within the margin for the “Toonami regulars” who tune in every single week. And the gradual slide for Demon Slayer and Lycoris is within the normal parameters as well. Whats not normal is the large drop going into OP that gets even worse going into Naruto. With no examples of that in over 1.5 years, we need to look at other factors. And there’s only one factor that changed last week. At that point in the block, a large portion of the audience are only regulars. And regulars are the most informed about schedule changes. And they clearly didn’t see anything worthwhile to watch after Lycoris. And this comes as no real surprise to anyone since we all watched Kai reruns crater the ratings a few years prior.

Yashahime was another example of thing nobody but Demarco wanted on the block, but it was on much earlier so it was able to damage the demo worse. But just last year we had a significant stretch where the block was almost all OP and Naruto and we didn’t see things crash this bad. Perhaps the lie that they had something coming encouraged people to rough it out? Anyway, I certainly didn’t put that much value on 2:30 either, but it does seem that slot being desirable to watch is a needed motivator to get people to sit through OP and Naruto. With Naruto wrapping up, they don’t need to worry about that too much, they can just bump OP to the last premier and contain the damage that way. If things continue to crater like this, I think they would be better served relocating Kai to a weekday timeslot. Maybe right after Checkered Past, there are likely some fresh faces in that audience who don’t watch Toonami, and thus would be more receptive to a DBZ rerun. Then Toonami itself either slots IGPX in to 2:30, or they cut 3, pull up the Ninja Kamui sub, then tag in IGPX when it finishes. These would be changes to make in late March after Entertainment District ends, so it wouldn’t be that long of a wait for IGPX if they went for the cut route.

We haven’t seen a show dip under 90k since October 2022. And the schedule has had some pretty rough stretches since that point and still managed to keep things at 6 digits. And even with Ninja Kamui dipping hard, it’s still on the same pace as Demon Slayer was as the lead last month, where again, nothing dipped below 6 digits. There is only one factor on the schedule that changed last week that can explain such a severe loss of viewership. This is a good thing. If it continues, it will force change.

Lmfao this pleases me so much. Not sure why Ninja Kamui decided to start shitting the bed, but that 90 minute stretch of shonen garbage has absolutely no draw so people bail when Lycoris ends. We haven’t seen 5 digits in a very long time, and I think the last time in recent memory was really close to the edge, like 95k. With Naruto at 70k that episode of Kai easily could have been in the 50k region. Just had to buy it back though, didn’t you Demarco?

Let it always be known I hate Demarco for wasting money on this again. Remember my hatred every week.

So does anyone else notice some strange perspective choices, or like, things being a strange size? When Joe is laying in bed at the start of the episode his boots are just enormous. And the detectives hands make his phone look like a micro version. But then he pulls his gun out and it’s about 3 sizes too big.

So not free. If this was a free option, DBZ would have been a permanent part of the block. Maybe it wasn’t a lot that they spent, but any amount is too much. Especially after they bitched last year that they couldn’t afford any new shows. I’d rather have seen this money spent on a Sentai C list show over another run of one of the most beat to death anime out there. DBZ isn’t part of the big 3. It’s One Piece, Bleach and Naruto. The entire concept of the big 3 is dated anyway since 2 of the series are long since completed and nothing really filled their shoes when they left.

If you have no money, you shouldn’t be wasting a single penny on a rerun. Bebop, GitS, the rest of IGPX which is apparently already done, the sub run of Ninja Kamui, all of these would do equally well at 2:30a and not cost them a dime to air.

He is apparently not in the best of health though, I don’t think he will return to voice work.

So on their chart, they do denote the 12a Ninja Kamui differently, but the 3am episode is not present. So either it did worse than 0.02, or despite the distinction, it’s considered a rerun regardless. Was hoping we would get to see those numbers but I guess we won’t.

CEO of major corporation held accountable for his wrongdoings. Anything else you want to add to your comedy act? I suggest a joke about airplane food.

Bro you didn’t put your money on Taytay’s team? It was like they leaked the script this year, that was basically free money. Ok, let’s talk about the bigger things I’m upset about then. Let’s see, I wasn’t too thrilled it cost over $87 to fill up my Hellcat yesterday. Is that a big enough issue to be upset about?

Sure are. But this is a place for Toonami/AS discussion, so as far as this place is concerned, this is the biggest thing in the world to be upset about. Sketch is somewhat as upset about it and I don’t see you giving him shit. It’s a stupid move and people should say that.

Honestly, if 12-2 can stay solid (no stalling new shows for the rest of the year) I dont really care what they do with 2:30. But thinking logically, there’s no way that will be the case. Is S2 of IGPX just not going to air for 160+ weeks? Will no other shows rerun? Not likely. Kai will creep up the schedule and One Piece will probably spend at least some of the year doubled up. Our best case scenario here is when Ninja Kamui ends, they bump Kai to 3 and bring back IGPX back to 2:30 for 13 weeks which should carry us close to the Uzumaki (lmao) premier, which would probably also get a 3am sub run. Then when that ends, they cut off 3am. I have a hard time seeing them keep the expansion unless Kai does great down there, which isn’t likely. We know there are pretty high odds that MHA S8 replaces Ninja Kamui as the lead in May/June. They may have to tweak things a little to line that up, but it’s likely what will happen. There is absolutely no excuse for them to not have two new shows lined up to replace DS and Lycoris in April though.

Start caring. As of recent developments, Demarco deserves people having the visualization.

I will repeat myself, I hate Demarco so god damn much. They could have pulled Ninja Kamui up. They could have doubled up OP again. They could have gotten ANYTHING else. This cost them money, so I don’t want to hear the “they won’t spend on 2:30” bullshit anymore. Demarco finally gets a little good will back and pisses it all away. Long term, this is probably what will replace Naruto. When the schedule has gaps, they will double/triple/quadruple up on Kai. With all the positive buzz and ratings from Lycoris, why is he still so averse to fresh shows? Id also wager this is a strong sign they will get Dragon Ball Diaper later in the year/early next year. Again, likely at huge detriment to the rest of the block. They already tried adding Kai as an infinite loop show. Goku does not sell seats any better than a show in their free archive. They let the license lapse after a year.

Wow I haven’t read someone’s yaoi fanfiction since high school. At least yours isn’t just one huge run on sentence and you didn’t breathe heavily behind me the entire time I was reading it. Oh Beth, you were such a weird girl. Anyway, let’s just all thank god that classic swim doesn’t know how to draw. Last thing this story needs is further visualization.

Good start so far. I was a little worried with the immediate recycled footage but they made up for it with a dense action quota. Anyone else get early era Boondocks vibes from the fight choreography? Made me think of the Hateocracy fights.

Final expectations before we start? I avoided the extended promo so I’m going in dry. Hoping the action can carry it as I don’t expect much substance from the story.

I hate Demarco so god damn much

If nothing else, Entertainment District stayed pretty consistent. Low, but it’s not all over the place. Will be interesting to see how Ninja Kamui does. Still not seeing much buzz for it outside of Toonami circles.

This is something I noticed with almost all of Crunchyroll’s original anime (all of them, not just the Toonami partnership ones), they feel like they are just there to fill in a quota. They don’t have that “western stink” that a truly fake anime would, but they are just entirely uninspired and leave no impact. Like someone opened a Make-an-Anime kit and rushed through it just to finish. The only sliver of deviation seen is when Demarco is involved he removes the fanservice element. Even if Ninja Kamui is enjoyable, I expect it to be forgotten as soon as it ends. Good action sequences can make the ride fun, but it that’s all it has to offer, no one will remember it long.