scoobdog Posted May 27 Posted May 27 Well, now that's straight up bullshit. Once again, I'm confounded by my fellow pale-faced douchebags and the sheer gaul they have in trying to steer universal memorials into white discrimination territory. 2 Quote
tsar4 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 29 minutes ago, scoobdog said: fellow pale-faced I prefer 'melanin-challenged'. 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted May 27 Posted May 27 43 minutes ago, tsar4 said: I prefer 'melanin-challenged'. I don’t do it anymore, but I have referred to myself as a cracker before. Quote
Insipid Posted May 27 Posted May 27 22 minutes ago, scoobdog said: I don’t do it anymore, but I have referred to myself as a cracker before. I suppose this is the best place to drop this anecdote. One time on reddit, someone said we need FDR style policies again and I got heavily downvoted for saying "Oh no, they're sending us japs back to the camps again! 😱" 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Insipid said: I suppose this is the best place to drop this anecdote. One time on reddit, someone said we need FDR style policies again and I got heavily downvoted for saying "Oh no, they're sending us japs back to the camps again! 😱" You have every right to say that, too. Quote
Insipid Posted May 27 Posted May 27 9 minutes ago, scoobdog said: You have every right to say that, too. Eh, it was a poorly placed joke. Would have worked in a circle jerk subreddit, but whatever. FDR is such a touchy president for me. He would easily be considered one of the best if not for the camps. I know Japan was evil as shit, but still. 1 Quote
ghostrek Posted May 27 Posted May 27 6 minutes ago, Insipid said: Eh, it was a poorly placed joke. Would have worked in a circle jerk subreddit, but whatever. FDR is such a touchy president for me. He would easily be considered one of the best if not for the camps. I know Japan was evil as shit, but still. True, I agree such an orders was still hypocritical. Don't get me started about the British in the Boer Wars. Look it up 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted May 27 Posted May 27 7 minutes ago, Insipid said: Eh, it was a poorly placed joke. Would have worked in a circle jerk subreddit, but whatever. FDR is such a touchy president for me. He would easily be considered one of the best if not for the camps. I know Japan was evil as shit, but still. He was a great president that did an awful, unforgivable thing. In the macrocosm, war typically amplifies incorrect difficult decisions into tragedies, but in the microcosm, it’s hard not to see the latent racism that the majority of Americans held toward all Asians generically. 1 Quote
Insipid Posted May 27 Posted May 27 8 minutes ago, ghostrek said: True, I agree such an orders was still hypocritical. Don't get me started about the British in the Boer Wars. Look it up Why don't you tell me what to look up? I know little about the Boer wars, have heard of it though. What's the hypocrisy? 1 Quote
ghostrek Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Insipid said: Why don't you tell me what to look up? I know little about the Boer wars, have heard of it though. What's the hypocrisy? @Insipid The British were the first to use concentration camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War_concentration_camps is not a pretty fact, but use anglo-saxs/anglo-normans are historically racist as fuck. As someone primarily with English ancestry, it's not a good thing. American culture carried that forward. I mean, look at history, the Irish were mistreated by the English, so were the Welsh and Scottish. To point there languages were almost died out. look british(English) imperialism started way before the British Empire Edited May 27 by ghostrek 1 Quote
Insipid Posted May 27 Posted May 27 7 minutes ago, ghostrek said: @Insipid The British were the first to use concentration camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War_concentration_camps is not a pretty fact, but use anglo-saxs/anglo-normans are historically racist as fuck. As someone primarily with English ancestry, it's not a good thing. American culture carried that forward. I mean, look at history, the Irish were mistreated by the English, so were the Welsh and Scottish. To point there languages were almost died out The British were not the first to use concentrations camps. Also, nazism was greatly influenced by the way Americans treated black people and Native Americans. 1 Quote
ghostrek Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Insipid said: The British were not the first to use concentrations camps. Also, nazism was greatly influenced by the way Americans treated black people and Native Americans. ok the spainish was frist to used concentrations camps. in 1896 in cuba. yes americans pioneerd eugenics thoery. lot gruops ran wth that. later they influsnced the nazis @Insipid Edited May 27 by ghostrek 1 Quote
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted May 27 Posted May 27 4 hours ago, Insipid said: I know Japan was evil as shit, but still. I don't want to "well ackshually" the half Japanese guy, but the evilness of Japan has nothing to do with Japanese Americans. Quote
scoobdog Posted May 27 Posted May 27 8 hours ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said: I don't want to "well ackshually" the half Japanese guy, but the evilness of Japan has nothing to do with Japanese Americans. Pretty sure that was the point, Doomy. You are on a fucking roll today. Quote
scoobdog Posted May 27 Posted May 27 13 hours ago, ghostrek said: ok the spainish was frist to used concentrations camps. in 1896 in cuba. yes americans pioneerd eugenics thoery. lot gruops ran wth that. later they influsnced the nazis @Insipid It's more like Hitler explicitly modeled much of his state sponsored segregation and, later, his pogroms on a combination of Reconstruction era Jim Crow and western expansion Native American policies (for the concentration camps and population relocation). The Eugenics movement was an ardently racist and niche offshoot of Jim Crow that, while disturbing, was generally ineffective in offering a realistic scientific justification for white supremacy. How much Hitler gleaned from that is debatable. On the subject of concentration camps... that's a distinctly New World creation. The Spaniards, Portuguese, English, and to a limited extent French all incorporated some form of it as they colonized the Americas. These policies matriculated into the independent countries built on those colonies and continued in some form well into the 1910's. While the idea of sectioned neighborhoods for Jews existed well before Hitler and throughout Europe (see the namesake Ghetto in Rome), the development of the remote camp and forced migrations that populated them owe immeasurably to the work of pre and post Civil War US Federal policies. 1 Quote
ghostrek Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 hours ago, scoobdog said: It's more like Hitler explicitly modeled much of his state sponsored segregation and, later, his pogroms on a combination of Reconstruction era Jim Crow and western expansion Native American policies (for the concentration camps and population relocation). The Eugenics movement was an ardently racist and niche offshoot of Jim Crow that, while disturbing, was generally ineffective in offering a realistic scientific justification for white supremacy. How much Hitler gleaned from that is debatable. On the subject of concentration camps... that's a distinctly New World creation. The Spaniards, Portuguese, English, and to a limited extent French all incorporated some form of it as they colonized the Americas. These policies matriculated into the independent countries built on those colonies and continued in some form well into the 1910's. While the idea of sectioned neighborhoods for Jews existed well before Hitler and throughout Europe (see the namesake Ghetto in Rome), the development of the remote camp and forced migrations that populated them owe immeasurably to the work of pre and post Civil War US Federal policies. yes that is true @scoobdog but i thought ever one knew that needs to be said with out saying but still ponit on anglo-saxions ( the english) are dicks 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted May 27 Posted May 27 58 minutes ago, ghostrek said: yes that is true @scoobdog but i thought ever one knew that needs to be said with out saying but still ponit on anglo-saxions ( the english) are dicks Anglo-saxons are not interchangeable with “Caucasian” or “White.” Quote
ghostrek Posted May 27 Posted May 27 2 hours ago, scoobdog said: Anglo-saxons are not interchangeable with “Caucasian” or “White.” i am talking about people with english heritage like me self 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted May 28 Posted May 28 51 minutes ago, ghostrek said: i am talking about people with english heritage like me self You’re missing the point. It’s perceived whiteness that delineates racial divides, just as it was perceive Germanness that separates so called Aryan elites from the undesirables. Quote
tsar4 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 On 5/26/2026 at 9:49 PM, Insipid said: Eh, it was a poorly placed joke. Would have worked in a circle jerk subreddit, but whatever. FDR is such a touchy president for me. He would easily be considered one of the best if not for the camps. I know Japan was evil as shit, but still. And attempting to pack SCOTUS. Quote
ghostrek Posted May 29 Posted May 29 23 hours ago, scoobdog said: You’re missing the point. It’s perceived whiteness that delineates racial divides, just as it was perceive Germanness that separates so called Aryan elites from the undesirables. @scoobdog good ponit 1 Quote
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