Toonamiguy321 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, Jman said: Common Side Effects? All the goddamn shows and that’s the one you get? Ok, this seems to spell out that shows made primarily for Max are off-limits, because there’s no reason CSE should be airing instead of Creature Commandos. If it’s not airing ON AS I don’t think it’s gonna be an option for the block. Max is established enough now where it doesn’t need to give things to cable for promotion. Quote
Top Gun Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Funny thing is that I thought the show looked really interesting and actually wanted to watch it. Not so much here though. Quote
KageRageX Posted February 21 Posted February 21 I'll take it. CSE looks good enough, and actually could wind up working for them. Rick and Morty is R&M. After what happened with the anime, anything R&M should stay far away from the block. This also may imply that CSE might get more action-oriented assuming it gets a S2. Now if OMG Yes was the show coming to the block, THEN I'd see a problem, but give CSE a chance. Still think that the slot should be MHA S7, Hashira Training, Recoil S2 or Daima. 1 Quote
Blatch Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Seriously? They do this right after I shell out for a Max subscription to watch Common Side Effects on my own? Damnit. But at least I can watch right away and get caught up with the actual premiere run. 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, KageRageX said: Now if OMG Yes was the show coming to the block, THEN I'd see a problem, but give CSE a chance. I have been giving it a chance. Every Sunday at 11:30. When it premiers. It’s a good show. That doesn’t mean it should be leaking onto Toonami. I do not want to rewatch what I have already seen. It’s not an action show. It’s a slow, thriller/mystery and frankly, I’d be pissed if it does a 180 away from this. There is no point in Toonami existing if it’s just gonna be a fourth (yes this show airs 3 separate times during the week before Saturday) run of AS shows. And the precedent it sets is terrible. R&M probably won’t, but there is a lot of stuff coming down the AS pipe that will likely be dumped onto Toonami as slot filler. 1 Quote
KageRageX Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: It’s not an action show. It’s a slow, thriller/mystery and frankly, I’d be pissed if it does a 180 away from this. An thriller/mystery series could actually work on Toonami if done well enough. Expand beyond Shonen shit and cape shit. Quote
brianycpht Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, KageRageX said: A thriller/mystery series could actually work on Toonami if done well enough. Expand beyond Shonen shit and cape shit. The problem isn’t the type of show. The problem is it’s another rerun 1 Quote
Mr. Idea Box Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 I think I have already found my opinion very well spoken on this matter, so instead I'll bring up how this adjustment is going on in conjunction with the Sunday premieres. Give IFG some slack for at least premiering on the block at first before going into immediate Toonami reruns. And yet, this somehow makes the predicted schedules seem a little better in hindsight. And it's only been three days. 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, KageRageX said: A thriller/mystery series could actually work on Toonami if done well enough. Expand beyond Shonen shit and cape shit. Sure, hand me the Sentai catalog and I’ll find you a good one. I don’t care about the genre, I care that this is a show halfway through its premier run, with 3 separate air slots outside of Toonami, clogging up a Toonami slot for 10 weeks. Just cut the damn block to 2 hours, stop doing this to us. Toonami airs ON Adult Swim. It’s not some special, insulated audience. Anyone who cares about CSE started watching it last month when it started. No new eyes are being brought to this show by airing it on Toonami. But there will be new resentment towards the show since it’s airing somewhere it shouldn’t be. Edited February 22 by Toonamiguy321 1 Quote
KageRageX Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Maybe they're saving CSE's slot for something else in May? MHA S7, Recoil S2, Mash S2, Stone final season, DanDaDan, Daima, Hashira Training? Who knows..... 1 Quote
brianycpht Posted February 22 Posted February 22 7 minutes ago, KageRageX said: Maybe they're saving CSE's slot for something else in May? MHA S7, Recoil S2, Mash S2, Stone final season, DanDaDan, Daima, Hashira Training? Who knows..... Why are they waiting until May? 1 1 Quote
Blatch Posted February 22 Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: And the precedent it sets is terrible. R&M probably won’t, but there is a lot of stuff coming down the AS pipe that will likely be dumped onto Toonami as slot filler. Oh yay, I can't wait to watch a bunch of shows with TOM making surface-level and probably unnecessary comments, plus an occasional goodie! Except I forked over $21 to the House of Zaslav for the privilege of catching up on CSE, so that won't be necessary, and next time I'll just DVR the premieres. Toonami's branding has fallen so far that sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off without it, and if the future is going to contain a lot of encores from [as] proper that may or may not fit, then that would make the problem even more apparent. 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, KageRageX said: Maybe they're saving CSE's slot for something else in May? MHA S7, Recoil S2, Mash S2, Stone final season, DanDaDan, Daima, Hashira Training? Who knows..... Because the schedule is so jam packed, right? We have been coping they are holding slots since January, cope time is over. If they needed 10 weeks, they could have started Mashle S2 tomorrow and and stalled 12 weeks that way with actual new content. There is no logical explanation for adding this show to the block. Stop trying to rationalize it and just admit it’s a bad move. 1 hour ago, Blatch said: Toonami's branding has fallen so far that sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off without it, and if the future is going to contain a lot of encores from [as] proper that may or may not fit, then that would make the problem even more apparent. We would be. I don’t know why they are so insistent on keeping it alive while simultaneously refusing to support it in any way. 1 Quote
brianycpht Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Blatch said: Oh yay, I can't wait to watch a bunch of shows with TOM making surface-level and probably unnecessary comments, plus an occasional goodie! Except I forked over $21 to the House of Zaslav for the privilege of catching up on CSE, so that won't be necessary, and next time I'll just DVR the premieres. Toonami's branding has fallen so far that sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off without it, and if the future is going to contain a lot of encores from [as] proper that may or may not fit, then that would make the problem even more apparent. That’s another thing The bumpers have been very low effort again. Too much “will be right back”/ “now continues” instead of the fun dialogue they used to do. This block is losing everything that makes it unique. Next they’ll stop using Steve and Dana’s voices 1 Quote
Sketch Posted February 22 Posted February 22 8 hours ago, brianycpht said: That’s another thing The bumpers have been very low effort again. Too much “will be right back”/ “now continues” instead of the fun dialogue they used to do. This block is losing everything that makes it unique. Next they’ll stop using Steve and Dana’s voices No more VO from Steve (even at a reduced rate) would be one the biggest cost saving measures besides not buying shows. It's no wonder why TOM and Sara don't talk as much as they used to but it is a wonder why they still have Steve read the game review scripts. How did they convince Ouwelleen that doing those things is important to the brand? Anyway... I'm loving Common Side Effects and compared to comedic anime parodies like Gemusetto: Death Beats and Ballmasterz it suits Toonami better by nature of being a dramatic on-going narrative. If it was encoring on the block on week 1 I might have been able to get behind that decision but throwing it on Toonami when half the season has already aired? That's something they have to do with acquisitions they have little control over, not an original series they could have aired from week 1. It's not like they actually cared about keeping IFG around after episode 4 (the one that was up for an Annie) re-aired on Feb 1st. And it sure is frustrating that they decided to kick IFG in favor of a different less fitting original series rerun (and probably are writing it off). Man I thought double Blue Exorcist was bleak but they could have at least built something worthwhile in April with Lazarus by speeding up BE but now they have no openings until the 2nd Saturday in May without expanding later. This is absolutely bullshit scheduling. And if they intended to kill 6 weeks with FLCL at midnight... PLAY THE ORIGINAL FLCL YOU ABSOLUTE MORONS!!! They have spent zero money on new acquisitions for Toonami this year and that is essentially half the year down the toilet. 1 Quote
KageRageX Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Where the hell is all these rumors of IFG being written off coming from? Quote
PokeNirvash Posted February 22 Posted February 22 BRING BACK THE "NOW NEXT LATER" BUMPERS, YOU COWARDS. 1 Quote
Jman Posted February 22 Posted February 22 57 minutes ago, KageRageX said: Where the hell is all these rumors of IFG being written off coming from? The fact that it’s being pulled mid-rerun for other reruns. 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 55 minutes ago, KageRageX said: Where the hell is all these rumors of IFG being written off coming from? The deadline for this years write offs is in a couple days. I didn’t pay this theory much mind, since before yesterday it looked like IFG simply had to step aside so BE S2 could come on with Lazarus. With new information, and seeing BE only double up one week and then get replaced by a wildly unfitting rerun, it certainly looks much more likely that IFG was tossed out with yesterday’s garbage and they had to make hasty schedule changes. 1 Quote
brianycpht Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Sketch said: No more VO from Steve (even at a reduced rate) would be one the biggest cost saving measures besides not buying shows. It's no wonder why TOM and Sara don't talk as much as they used to but it is a wonder why they still have Steve read the game review scripts. How did they convince Ouwelleen that doing those things is important to the brand? Anyway... I'm loving Common Side Effects and compared to comedic anime parodies like Gemusetto: Death Beats and Ballmasterz it suits Toonami better by nature of being a dramatic on-going narrative. If it was encoring on the block on week 1 I might have been able to get behind that decision but throwing it on Toonami when half the season has already aired? That's something they have to do with acquisitions they have little control over, not an original series they could have aired from week 1. It's not like they actually cared about keeping IFG around after episode 4 (the one that was up for an Annie) re-aired on Feb 1st. And it sure is frustrating that they decided to kick IFG in favor of a different less fitting original series rerun (and probably are writing it off). Man I thought double Blue Exorcist was bleak but they could have at least built something worthwhile in April with Lazarus by speeding up BE but now they have no openings until the 2nd Saturday in May without expanding later. This is absolutely bullshit scheduling. And if they intended to kill 6 weeks with FLCL at midnight... PLAY THE ORIGINAL FLCL YOU ABSOLUTE MORONS!!! They have spent zero money on new acquisitions for Toonami this year and that is essentially half the year down the toilet. Even if Lazurus is amazing, throwing out half the year and sacrificing everything is is not worth it. It’s also going to get 2 weeks of marathons and probably a top of the block rerun also That’s assuming the dub even premieres on the block I miss the days when we just had a stream of replacements. They weren’t the huge shows or even newest shows , but if one show ended you got a replacement. 2 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 3 hours ago, brianycpht said: Even if Lazurus is amazing, throwing out half the year and sacrificing everything is is not worth it. It’s also going to get 2 weeks of marathons and probably a top of the block rerun also That’s assuming the dub even premieres on the block I miss the days when we just had a stream of replacements. They weren’t the huge shows or even newest shows , but if one show ended you got a replacement. They have set Lazarus up with an unwinnable hand. If it had other shows around it, it could be “meh” but still perceived as an ok show. But it’s going to be center stage with zero support so it’s going to have to be a 10/10 every single week since it’s likely going to be the only thing on the block for a portion of its run, if not all of it. It will be nitpicked to death because no one will have anything else to talk about. I have to wonder if whoever is doing programming understand this, or if they just don’t care and just have to air the remaining originals. 1 1 Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 On 2/22/2025 at 11:11 AM, Toonamiguy321 said: The deadline for this years write offs is in a couple days. I didn’t pay this theory much mind, since before yesterday it looked like IFG simply had to step aside so BE S2 could come on with Lazarus. With new information, and seeing BE only double up one week and then get replaced by a wildly unfitting rerun, it certainly looks much more likely that IFG was tossed out with yesterday’s garbage and they had to make hasty schedule changes. Can't really figure why they would even want to, but my guess is for some reason they want Common Side Effects and Blue Exorcist S1 to end at the same time. Could that mean Demon Slayer: Hashira Training takes over 12:30-1:30 with Episode 1 on May 10th, and then Blue Exorcist Season 2 finally premieres May 17th? It would have to take a break sometime though for the longer episodes of DSHT though. And of course keep in mind by that time Lazarus would be on Episodes 6 & 7. 1 Quote
brianycpht Posted February 24 Posted February 24 35 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said: Can't really figure why they would even want to, but my guess is for some reason they want Common Side Effects and Blue Exorcist S1 to end at the same time. Could that mean Demon Slayer: Hashira Training takes over 12:30-1:30 with Episode 1 on May 10th, and then Blue Exorcist Season 2 finally premieres May 17th? It would have to take a break sometime though for the longer episodes of DSHT though. And of course keep in mind by that time Lazarus would be on Episodes 6 & 7. Why not just air it now? Why are they playing games? 1 Quote
KageRageX Posted February 24 Posted February 24 So.....ion know exactly what to think of this, but check this out: https://x.com/i/web/status/1894096746113888667 Perhaps Fire Force Season 3 WILL be Toonami-bound after all....? 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, KageRageX said: So.....ion know exactly what to think of this, but check this out: https://x.com/i/web/status/1894096746113888667 Perhaps Fire Force Season 3 WILL be Toonami-bound after all....? Sounds like grasping at straws to me. If this resource is legit, we wouldn’t just now be finding out about it in 2025. And they aren’t going to have a show secured that hasn’t even started yet. 2 Quote
brianycpht Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Toonamiguy321 said: Sounds like grasping at straws to me. If this resource is legit, we wouldn’t just now be finding out about it in 2025. And they aren’t going to have a show secured that hasn’t even started yet. Actually this tracks “what fire force has a third season ?” ”well let’s wait to see if it gets dubbed” ”oh it is? Since when” 1 2 Quote
Top Gun Posted February 25 Posted February 25 If we get any third-party acquisitions this year, I hope this is one of them. I love that gang of total idiots. 1 1 Quote
Sketch Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Here I thought Sony being on the production committee (according to MAL, which does not list CN) that it meant Fire Force season 3 was more than likely not joining Toonami, so this is very interesting. Well the earliest we potentially get it is May 10th baring expansion or dropping a show mid-run. But it would be something at least. 1 1 Quote
Sketch Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Seems like this is probably the most appropriate thread to mention this... I'm getting together reps from Toonami Squad, Toonami Escape/Era and Toonami Faithful to have a roundtable discussion live on twitch this Friday at 9PM, actually probably starting at 9:15 Tune in if you're interested! twitch.tv/toonamifaithfulchannel 1 Quote
brianycpht Posted February 25 Posted February 25 6 minutes ago, Sketch said: Seems like this is probably the most appropriate thread to mention this... I'm getting together reps from Toonami Squad, Toonami Escape/Era and Toonami Faithful to have a roundtable discussion live on twitch this Friday at 9PM, actually probably starting at 9:15 Tune in if you're interested! twitch.tv/toonamifaithfulchannel This will be recorded right? I plan on tuning in but sometimes things interrupt me 1 Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 39 minutes ago, Sketch said: Seems like this is probably the most appropriate thread to mention this... I'm getting together reps from Toonami Squad, Toonami Escape/Era and Toonami Faithful to have a roundtable discussion live on twitch this Friday at 9PM, actually probably starting at 9:15 Tune in if you're interested! twitch.tv/toonamifaithfulchannel Is this PT? So 12:15 AM ET/11:15 PM CT? 1 Quote
Sketch Posted Wednesday at 04:07 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:07 PM On 2/24/2025 at 9:52 PM, OwlChemist81 said: Is this PT? So 12:15 AM ET/11:15 PM CT? 9 EST / 6 PST On 2/24/2025 at 9:20 PM, brianycpht said: This will be recorded right? I plan on tuning in but sometimes things interrupt me The VOD will be up after and later I’ll post it as just audio. Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted Wednesday at 04:17 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:17 PM Ocho it is, then. Might listen. 1 Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted Friday at 05:14 PM Posted Friday at 05:14 PM HaHaHaHa!! Kai went BYE-BYE!! On a personal note, this kinda sucks for me since I have to leave the house at 7 AM on 3/9, BUT at least I get Naruto and Sailor Moon on the West Coast when I DO wake up. This is the one time a year I'm not an hour behind the East Coast schedule, and 1:30 and 2 for me MEAN 1:30 AND 2! On 3/15 I'm assuming I'll get home by 12:30 after a full day of St. Paddy's Saturday Shenanigans! We all know this ain't sustainable, though, and there will be a price to pay down the road for this. All the same, enjoy the return of the buried treasure that is the Pirate Power Hour! Quote
Sketch Posted Friday at 06:04 PM Posted Friday at 06:04 PM Back to 2 network premieres and Kai is out. I’d sooner believe they realized they can’t run Kai again than they were responding to negative feedback. Though they could have doubled up Naruto instead. Still gotta wait till 1:30 for the buried treasure but for some folks this is enough to convince them to watch all of 1:30-3:30 live, perhaps myself included now that I don’t have to get up as early on Sundays and Mondays. Interesting they chose to double up OP rather than Blue Exorcist. Do they have a good reason to finish Common Side Effects and Blue Exorcist season 1 the same week? I guess we’ll see. This also gives them a place to slip Japanese language Lazarus in replacing OP any given week so hopefully in May there’s two additional network premieres at 12:30 and 1am. 3 Quote
Top Gun Posted Friday at 06:41 PM Posted Friday at 06:41 PM Double OP makes a lot more sense than temporary double Blue Exorcist at least. And thank God, someone finally took Old Yeller Kai out behind the barn. The Grunge/Shoegaze thing is still incredibly random. 2 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted Friday at 07:11 PM Posted Friday at 07:11 PM Finally, a schedule update that improves the block. Not by much, but we are moving the needle in the right direction. 55 minutes ago, Sketch said: Back to 2 network premieres and Kai is out. I’d sooner believe they realized they can’t run Kai again than they were responding to negative feedback. Though they could have doubled up Naruto instead. Only a very small group of people like us who comb the schedules even knew it was restarting. They never publicly announced it was looping, so I agree this is just them not keeping up on their licenses and just now realizing Kai was running on empty. We are 1 week over the 1 year mark, which is close enough for me to assume these are 1 year contracts. So expect to see this mistake happen again in June with Naruto and Sailor Moon. With that in mind, I do agree it’s weird that they didn’t go with Naruto since we can assume thats going to expire right around the dull part of the chuunin exams. And as we know with One Piece, every week it spends doubled up is one week it can’t air at all. They have a few weeks to spare but I’d assume double OP ends on 4/5. Maybe that’s when they will swap to Naruto since at that point OP won’t be the only premier. 1 hour ago, Sketch said: Interesting they chose to double up OP rather than Blue Exorcist. Do they have a good reason to finish Common Side Effects and Blue Exorcist season 1 the same week? I guess we’ll see. This also gives them a place to slip Japanese language Lazarus in replacing OP any given week so hopefully in May there’s two additional network premieres at 12:30 and 1am. With them synced up, they could have Lazarus subs replace one and BE S2 replace the other. 1 premier to lessen the blow of an unnecessary rerun. I wouldn’t hold your breath on two network premiers at once. 1 1 Quote
Sketch Posted Friday at 07:29 PM Posted Friday at 07:29 PM About the only way I see them filling both 12:30 and 1am with a network premiere on May 10th is a double length Demon Slayer episode starting the Hashira Training arc. That would sync up to finish the same week as the Lazarus dub. That arc has 3 longer eps. What to do about the 5 weeks where eps 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 only fill one slot? I kid you not I expect them to run Oh My God, YES as filler. It’s got a sci-fi setting and has some anime inspired designs. With 10 quarter hour eps it fits snuggly into that space without starting another acquisition. Then everything 12-1:30 is done the same week as the Lazarus dub which makes it even easier to take 2 weeks off for Lazarus marathons on July 5th and July 12th. Then maybe it’s time for Primal season 3. One would hope by then they will have bought some dang shows! 2 2 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted Friday at 08:32 PM Posted Friday at 08:32 PM 55 minutes ago, Sketch said: About the only way I see them filling both 12:30 and 1am with a network premiere on May 10th is a double length Demon Slayer episode starting the Hashira Training arc. That would sync up to finish the same week as the Lazarus dub. Not a bad guess, needing an hour timeslot for something is a safer bet than them planning for 2 shows at once. Just a bonus that it syncs its end date with Lazarus. Demon Slayer also helps prop Lazarus up since people will have motivation to tune in for more than 30 minutes. 1 hour ago, Sketch said: That arc has 3 longer eps. What to do about the 5 weeks where eps 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 only fill one slot? I kid you not I expect them to run Oh My God, YES as filler. It’s got a sci-fi setting and has some anime inspired designs. With 10 quarter hour eps it fits snuggly into that space without starting another acquisition. I joked with someone about this a week ago and the laughs abruptly stopped when we both thought about it and realized it’s entirely possible and realistic now that CSE has been added to the block. I hate that they added it because it opens the floodgate for various AS shows to be tagged in as slot filler. I hope you are wrong, but I have a feeling you aren’t. 1 1 Quote
KageRageX Posted Friday at 10:14 PM Posted Friday at 10:14 PM Sketch please DON'T give them that idea..... 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted Saturday at 12:28 AM Posted Saturday at 12:28 AM Oh and for those who care, which id wager is no one, the times on the 3/8 schedule are wrong since they do not account for DST. It doesn’t change the schedule, but the 2a shows are gonna be the 3a shows that night. DVR users be wary. 1 Quote
Mr. Idea Box Posted Saturday at 12:54 AM Author Posted Saturday at 12:54 AM Honestly, I welcome the phasing out of Toonami Rewind at this point. And if that can be swapped with Two Piece, Lazarus, Blue Exorcist Season 2, and potentially an hour cut from the block, then that's good enough for me. 1 Quote
Sketch Posted Saturday at 03:34 PM Posted Saturday at 03:34 PM Here’s the Toonami Fan Community Summit on YouTube 1 1 Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM 9 hours ago, Sketch said: Here’s the Toonami Fan Community Summit on YouTube Damn, it was LONG!! Quote
PokeNirvash Posted yesterday at 01:38 AM Posted yesterday at 01:38 AM Ha-ha! Dangly parts. 1 1 1 Quote
Toonamiguy321 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago On 3/1/2025 at 9:34 AM, Sketch said: Here’s the Toonami Fan Community Summit on YouTube I will never understand people like Paul who just watched Rewind die with the rest of us, continue to suggest a further dive into rerun nostalgia. DBZ and Sailor Moon WAS a return to the best, and it was a huge disaster. Toonami can’t survive by constantly looking backwards. Get back into a 2012 mindset and just go for anything cheap and available. Let the audience decide if it’s a winner or not. Seems like as a long as a show is new to the block the audience will give it a shot. 1 Quote
brianycpht Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said: I will never understand people like Paul who just watched Rewind die with the rest of us, continue to suggest a further dive into rerun nostalgia. DBZ and Sailor Moon WAS a return to the best, and it was a huge disaster. Toonami can’t survive by constantly looking backwards. Get back into a 2012 mindset and just go for anything cheap and available. Let the audience decide if it’s a winner or not. Seems like as a long as a show is new to the block the audience will give it a shot. He’s talking going waaayy back to the launch shows. I think MeTV Toons will have that type of thing covered. They already got Johnny Quest on there, wouldn’t be shocked if Voltron or TCats show up there This Toonami needs to be foward looking Quote
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