Sketch Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 One hour premiere on November 2nd on Toonami. I’ll say I’m at least a little surprised Toonami gets the premieres instead of Thursday. Probably will get encores Fridays at 7pm like Superman did. We know the first November show now. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) I was hoping it would premiere opposite the second half of Kinnikuman Perfect Origin, or even funnier, the same night as Saturday Night’s Main Event in December. Oh God, we’re going to have AEW talent advertising this show, aren’t we? There goes my idea to have the promos for the show resemble pro wrestling promos. Edited October 8 by Jman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, Sketch said: One hour premiere on November 2nd on Toonami. I’ll say I’m at least a little surprised Toonami gets the premieres instead of Thursday. Probably will get encores Fridays at 7pm like Superman did. We know the first November show now. The 1-hour premiere is an interesting development, since it implies an empty timeslot on November 9th. Hopefully that's gonna go to MHA S7. This weekend we're up to 14-15 of S6, which has 25 episodes. With 10 left, there are a number of ways they can get there. It's a foregone conclusion, with extra long episodes of R&MTA, Uzumaki, and Demon Slayer, the 19th only gets 2. So running 4 episodes each the 26th and November 2nd seems most logical. But since if both nights are expanded to 4 AM, and there is a bonus hour on 11/2, it might make more sense to run only 2 episodes on 10/26 and 6 on 11/2, especially because an Uzumaki marathon would be longer than 2 hours, and they probably still plan on running DBZ Kai. So, we'd have IFG, OP×2, and MHA×6 from 12-4 AM on 11/2, and then MHA S7 would start 11/9 at 12:30, probably with double One Piece afterward. Or, they COULD bring back IGPX REMASTERED for Season 2. That's ALSO an option! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) Whats surprising about it? No one cares about this, no sense trying to cash in on Thursday with this one. This is disappointing, but not surprising news. Two more slots to deal with now. Id say best case scenario, they drop MHA S7 in on the 9th for 12:30. How can they get there? It’s simple. Run IFG for an hour, then after that utilize DST to blast through what’s left of MHA. Normally, that would be a stupid idea, but when the block has no other noteworthy premiers, who cares? One Piece fans know they gotta pay back all those double ups so they will deal. So this will be 11/9 12 - IFG 12:30 - MHA S7 1 - One Piece 1:30 some rerun 2 - some rerun 2:30 - some rerun Once again, utilize the DST change confusion to sneak in a a cut and get the block back to 3 hours. And solve the problem of needing 3 premier shows by simply deleting one of the open slots. If they are feeling generous, and have any extra ones in the tank, One Piece can always take 1:30 as well, up to how much they can spare before the Jan reset. Remember, there are only 6 regular Toonami nights left starting 11/9, so it isn’t that long for them to be in a holding pattern. Edited October 8 by Toonamiguy321 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 See you say that but given how this adheres to the Twitter and Tumblr Approved Character Designs, you will have people marking out for what still looks like someone decided Tiger Mask W was “problematic” and made the socially acceptable version of it. Honestly, with how badly their attempts at anime originals have panned out, this is quickly becoming their only source of steady programming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, Toonamiguy321 said: Whats surprising about it? No one cares about this, no sense trying to cash in on Thursday with this one. This is disappointing, but not surprising news. Two more slots to deal with now. Id say best case scenario, they drop MHA S7 in on the 9th for 12:30. How can they get there? It’s simple. Run IFG for an hour, then after that utilize DST to blast through what’s left of MHA. Normally, that would be a stupid idea, but when the block has no other noteworthy premiers, who cares? One Piece fans know they gotta pay back all those double ups so they will deal. So this will be 11/9 12 - IFG 12:30 - MHA S7 1 - One Piece 1:30 some rerun 2 - some rerun 2:30 - some rerun Once again, utilize the DST change confusion to sneak in a a cut and get the block back to 3 hours. And solve the problem of needing 3 premier shows by simply deleting one of the open slots. If they are feeling generous, and have any extra ones in the tank, One Piece can always take 1:30 as well, up to how much they can spare before the Jan reset. Remember, there are only 6 regular Toonami nights left starting 11/9, so it isn’t that long for them to be in a holding pattern. Like I said the only somewhat surprising thing is Toonami didn’t just get the encore. That was always in question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Oh look, it's the show we all expected to be the November premiere. But at this time, it doubles as damage control. It would be nice if we got a "race to the finish" MHA S6 marathon on Daylight Savings Night, Season 7 premiering the next week, IGPX Season 2 filling a rerun slot, AND a third batch of new episodes at 1 AM. But at this point in the year, it's best to just be pleasantly surprised. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KageRageX Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Looks good! I'll check it out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 They've given this a few different promos already. If they don't want it to succeed they sure are making it seem like they do. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 10 hours ago, Sketch said: They've given this a few different promos already. If they don't want it to succeed they sure are making it seem like they do. Oh, I want it to succeed. I just don't want it to air at Midnight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted October 14 Author Share Posted October 14 I also want it to succeed and wish the premieres were on CN or at least at 7pm on Friday (probably will encore there though). Its stupid that they threw this to Adult Swim and I strongly doubt it will get renewed but here's hoping for a miracle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 I'm admittedly annoyed by the series, but I think it's because it falls into so many of the checkboxes of modern pseudo-anime from the West that it's getting obnoxious. Pseudo-anime in general seems to be losing popularity among casual viewers depending on the art style, with the Kong show from Powerhouse falling flat on its face and Tomb Raider on Netflix failing to make the Top 10 opposite DanDaDan, which did despite being a weekly release. I'd probably be less annoyed if it weren't on Adult Swim. Still, people are looking for the real thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 13 hours ago, Sketch said: I also want it to succeed and wish the premieres were on CN or at least at 7pm on Friday (probably will encore there though). Its stupid that they threw this to Adult Swim and I strongly doubt it will get renewed but here's hoping for a miracle. I’m starting to think projects they don’t expect to renew will get the Toonami premiere but ones that have potential go to Thursday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 I’m on the Jman team here, I want this to flop for two reasons. One, so it goes away, and second, as Jman said, it’s yet another western project that has no original ideas of its own and it just going to rip off anime for 10 episodes. The west needs to get out of this rut. The lead also seems like she is going to be insufferable. 1 hour ago, brianycpht said: I’m starting to think projects they don’t expect to renew will get the Toonami premiere but ones that have potential go to Thursday Well, Superman got to premier S2 on Toonami and got a 2 season renewal out of the deal. I’m thinking IFG is just something they do not care about at all so they are tossing it to Toonami as late year slot coverage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianycpht Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 3 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said: I’m on the Jman team here, I want this to flop for two reasons. One, so it goes away, and second, as Jman said, it’s yet another western project that has no original ideas of its own and it just going to rip off anime for 10 episodes. The west needs to get out of this rut. The lead also seems like she is going to be insufferable. Well, Superman got to premier S2 on Toonami and got a 2 season renewal out of the deal. I’m thinking IFG is just something they do not care about at all so they are tossing it to Toonami as late year slot coverage. It actually benefited Superman because I think they had mentally wrote if off when deciding to give it to Toonami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, brianycpht said: It actually benefited Superman because I think they had mentally wrote if off when deciding to give it to Toonami I feel like for better or for worse that show ran on “Do the opposite of Snyder” and got a fanbase off of that. But that got a Thursday release. For better or for worse, it was also Superman, probably one of the most recognizable fictional characters in the entire world. Edited October 14 by Jman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 57 minutes ago, brianycpht said: It actually benefited Superman because I think they had mentally wrote if off when deciding to give it to Toonami I had seen the staff kinda tempering expectations on there being more before it premiered, so I think even they didn’t know. The final episode is also written in a very “this is the last episode” kind of way. Superman and Toonami go together, I don’t know why they thought this show couldn’t stand on the block. 57 minutes ago, Jman said: I feel like for better or for worse that show ran on “Do the opposite of Snyder” and got a fanbase off of that. But that got a Thursday release. For better or for worse, it was also Superman, probably one of the most recognizable fictional characters in the entire world. People have been wanting a return to this for a long time. The ol “what if Superman was actually a dick” thing ran its course. Technically, MAWS is supposed to be Lois Lanes show, featuring special guest star Superman and Jimmy, but it still feels like it’s Superman’s show where he gets to be a good boy and help people. I don’t expect the staff to do a Jack S5 pivot, but I do expect the staff to use slight increase in freedom for the new seasons. Some aspects, such as the junior reporter team, feel like aspects added to the show purely because it was going to be a kids show. Max still wants it on the kids section, but I don’t think they run as tight of a ship as CN. Anyway, back to the topic at hand, unlike Superman, IFG doesn’t have any long term fans showing up to give it a chance, or willing to look past some of the more childish aspects. So it’s gonna need some kind of miracle to gain enough traction for an S2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperxmns Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Dat whiplash when you're watching Uzumaki and then a promo for what was supposed to be a CN show comes on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 $5 says this special is introduced by AEW wrestlers. I’m also pretty convinced I’d be on a normal level of dislike for this show rather than full bore chugging Hatorade if I hadn’t watched the new Kinnikuman arc during the summer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 4 hours ago, Jman said: $5 says this special is introduced by AEW wrestlers. I’m also pretty convinced I’d be on a normal level of dislike for this show rather than full bore chugging Hatorade if I hadn’t watched the new Kinnikuman arc during the summer. That’s even more out of place than on Toonami. Do they think people won’t notice this is a kids show? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 5 hours ago, Jman said: $5 says this special is introduced by AEW wrestlers. I’m also pretty convinced I’d be on a normal level of dislike for this show rather than full bore chugging Hatorade if I hadn’t watched the new Kinnikuman arc during the summer. Woah, that's a throwback to the AT&T years! For a while they'd cross-promote TBS shows by putting premiere episodes on [as] and maybe vice-versa. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 They are also encoring ep 1 on Thursday after some actual wrestling, which only makes sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasqueradeOverture Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Kiddy-ass shit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 18 hours ago, MasqueradeOverture said: Kiddy-ass shit This is why I'm seriously questioning how well this is going to do opposite an AEW whose champion is Jon Moxley, a stereotypical hardcore wrestler whose ideas tend to be focused on blood and guts. The CEO of Moxley Plumbing isn't exactly someone I think would introduce people to a kids show. At least in Kinnikuman, people get busted open, blood escapes from the mouth, and all that stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 🤯 If you thought the lineup for Toonami was gonna be boring in November--THINK AGAIN!!! Unknown at this time which season of Blue Exorcist it's gonna be, but it's LIKELY going to be the new one! Edit: dammit, it's a rerun of the first season. I was hoping it would be something new to Toonami, but maybe if it's a mainstay, we get the new seasons in 2025? In the meantime, well, at least we're getting Mashle. Also, MHA slows to one episode, but this run would run out November 30th. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 I'm holding out hope for Kyoto Saga coming next year, if they're willing to pull this show out of the mothballs. I do have a pertinent question regarding IFG, though: How many episodes did they say the season would have? I'm thinking between 10 and 13, but it could be one of those numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 8 minutes ago, Mr. Idea Box said: I do have a pertinent question regarding IFG, though: How many episodes did they say the season would have? I'm thinking between 10 and 13, but it could be one of those numbers. As with most western shows, it’s 10 episodes. So we should finish it before 2025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Idea Box Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Just now, Toonamiguy321 said: As with most western shows, it’s 10 episodes. So we should finish it before 2025 Thanks for clarifying. Wasn't sure if they announced the episode count or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KageRageX Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 I thought IFG was gonna have 20 episodes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted October 19 Author Share Posted October 19 8 hours ago, Otakuninja9000 said: I thought IFG was gonna have 20 episodes.... I’m honestly not sure what the total is at this point. Usually they green light 20 and split it as two 10 ep seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 Just interviewed a director on the show (Matthew Bordenave) and I hope to have that up within then next day or so. After talking to him I am all the more excited to see more of the series. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 My ideal scheduling of Blue Exorcist: Nov. 2-30: Eps 1-5 (one/week) Dec. 7-21: Eps 6-8 (same) Jan. 4-25: Eps 9-12 (same) Feb. 1-22: Eps 13-16 (same) Mar. 1: Mardi Gras Blowout of Filler Eps 17-25 (Midnight-4:30 AM)! Mar. 8: Kyoto Arc begins, DST begins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 1 Author Share Posted November 1 It’s been up a few days. Give it a listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 7 hours ago, Sketch said: It’s been up a few days. Give it a listen. Western animators trying to imitate anime are the equivalent of cargo cults. How the hell do you mention a wrestling show based on anime and not mention Kinnikuman or Tiger Mask once? Especially Tiger Mask if you’re a fan of pro wrestling given there have been six wrestlers that have carried the mantle and with the exception of Minowa (who’s a cult figure in MMA) they’re all legends?! It’s not like the franchises have been idle either. But your influence is Naruto?! I know I shouldn’t be annoyed, but I can’t help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 32 minutes ago, Jman said: Western animators trying to imitate anime are the equivalent of cargo cults. How the hell do you mention a wrestling show based on anime and not mention Kinnikuman or Tiger Mask once? Especially Tiger Mask if you’re a fan of pro wrestling given there have been six wrestlers that have carried the mantle and with the exception of Minowa (who’s a cult figure in MMA) they’re all legends?! It’s not like the franchises have been idle either. But your influence is Naruto?! I know I shouldn’t be annoyed, but I can’t help it. Given even the Kinikuman co-creator is disappointed at the performance of the new anime overseas, it’s safe to say it’s easy to miss Kinikuman and Tiger Mask anime and still have watched and enjoyed many anime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, Sketch said: Given even the Kinikuman co-creator is disappointed at the performance of the new anime overseas, it’s safe to say it’s easy to miss Kinikuman and Tiger Mask anime and still have watched and enjoyed many anime. Yea but that’s never the case for these people. The only anime they know is DBZ, Sailor Moon, Naruto and whatever the current FotM Jump series is. Whatever they watched on Toonami as a kid and whatever is reaching them through heavy cultural osmosis. And that’s why their final products always suck because they just rip from those 3 shows every single time. I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised, anyone with an actual decent lineup of anime inspiration would never try to make fake western anime in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 9 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said: Yea but that’s never the case for these people. The only anime they know is DBZ, Sailor Moon, Naruto and whatever the current FotM Jump series is. Whatever they watched on Toonami as a kid and whatever is reaching them through heavy cultural osmosis. And that’s why their final products always suck because they just rip from those 3 shows every single time. I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised, anyone with an actual decent lineup of anime inspiration would never try to make fake western anime in the first place. I might be expecting too much that actual professionals engage with their material outside of the most surface-level takes, but Ultimate Muscle was fairly successful in the US, to the point that it got a whole extra season because of its popularity here. Why are you trying to imitate anime in the first place? That's my first question. The guy has experience on numerous comic book adaptations that didn't need to imitate anime. We have our own distinctive art styles. Use those. This already looks girlbossed to hell with the usual Current Year requirements, and the fact that it is a cargo cult of a production is not helping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 If I ever made a Western cartoon of my own, I'd namedrop Steel Angel Kurumi as one of my influences, just to see how bewildered the expressions on the interviewers' faces get. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 7 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: If I ever made a Western cartoon of my own, I'd namedrop Steel Angel Kurumi as one of my influences, just to see how bewildered the expressions on the interviewers' faces get. “So Toonamiguy, your TV Y7 children’s show is about to air very early in the day on Nickelodeon, right after SpongeBob. What were your inspirations when making this show?” Well you see, I love anime, always have for a long time. My main inspiration for this show for children was one of my all time anime favorites, Redo of Healer. “Oh, I have never heard of that one before, usually people I interview say something like DBZ or Sailor Moon! I’ll have to check that one out myself to see what it’s all about! I’d also encourage my millions of viewers to check it out as well!” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) Apparently the creators of the show are graduates of the Jason DeMarco School of Searching for People To Start Shit With. Now this may strike some viewers as harsh, but… Edited November 20 by Jman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Oh ho ho yes, now this is where the entertainment happens. Western creator is immediately busted for their copy and paste work from anime (because it’s always the same anime they copy from so people can immediately sniff out the scenes) and immediately goes to social media to damage control. And of course, they never get it. The issue isn’t liking anime, it’s that YOUR show, distinctly not anime, is just a compilation of iconic anime scenes and tropes and has no identity of its own. They aren’t roasting anime, they are roasting the staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 21 Author Share Posted November 21 On 11/2/2024 at 3:56 PM, Toonamiguy321 said: “So Toonamiguy, your TV Y7 children’s show is about to air very early in the day on Nickelodeon, right after SpongeBob. What were your inspirations when making this show?” Well you see, I love anime, always have for a long time. My main inspiration for this show for children was one of my all time anime favorites, Redo of Healer. “Oh, I have never heard of that one before, usually people I interview say something like DBZ or Sailor Moon! I’ll have to check that one out myself to see what it’s all about! I’d also encourage my millions of viewers to check it out as well!” Redo of Healer actually has an interesting premise and very creative uses of "healing" powers. It's also terrible edge-lord tripe that has way more sexual assault than it has any business including but I was definitely entertained by watching the MC get his revenge on really terrible people. Lets just not try to think too much about how long he allowed himself to be treated as a sex toy once he got his memories back and started plotting his revenge. Sure getting pounded by soldiers was a way of increasing his power level but he sure let that go on longer than he probably needed to in order to be strong enough to enact his plans. Anyway... IFG plays the tropes, you can't argue otherwise but I do feel it is crafting its own identity at least as much as most shounen which borrow from the hits have done. You might not like the original elements but they're there and seemingly building toward something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 1 hour ago, Sketch said: Redo of Healer actually has an interesting premise and very creative uses of "healing" powers. It's also terrible edge-lord tripe that has way more sexual assault than it has any business including but I was definitely entertained by watching the MC get his revenge on really terrible people. Lets just not try to think too much about how long he allowed himself to be treated as a sex toy once he got his memories back and started plotting his revenge. Sure getting pounded by soldiers was a way of increasing his power level but he sure let that go on longer than he probably needed to in order to be strong enough to enact his plans. Anyway... IFG plays the tropes, you can't argue otherwise but I do feel it is crafting its own identity at least as much as most shounen which borrow from the hits have done. You might not like the original elements but they're there and seemingly building toward something. Given people’s very limited bubble of information when it comes to anime, I just think it would be funny to trick the uninformed into watching the show. Remember how absolutely unhinged people got over a little off screen goblin action in Goblin Slayer? A lot of anime fans have never left the safety bubble of entry level slop. I don’t mind the tropes, when they are in their original homes or borrowed in a creative way. This show is supposed to be about wrestling, yet it’s 95% DBZ fights that end with a wrestling finisher. Creator obviously wanted to churn out another western anime clone but that wouldn’t fly at the pitch meeting so he tacked on the wrestling aspect. It’s like how the Aqua Teens were detectives to get the pitch approved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted November 21 Author Share Posted November 21 I think as the show continues they'll incorporate a lot of actual wrestling techniques but I suppose that remains to be seen. The fight against Immaculate was over pretty quick but felt more like wrestling than the one with Mbrandon. The fight against Mbrandon was mostly throwing Falcon Punches except when Andy failed to do the ankle crank. Then they went to straight up rapid Dragon Ball punches though revealing that Andy was actually not getting any hits in for most of that exchange felt at least a bit original. You probably have a point about the pitch using wrestling to get in the door. The network probably wouldn't commit to a martial arts show, maybe an MMA show but a wrestling show while wrestling remains one of the decent draws for cable at least makes some sense on paper. But so far none of the people involve have sighted wrestling anime as an influence which is pretty telling. That said, I know some people who regularly indulge in wrestling entertainment who are enjoying this show so that's something I guess. If we've learned anything from the droves of anime-inspired American cartoons its that there will never be another Avatar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 (edited) My non-existent tolerance for bullying creatives aside, MMA anime has been VERY popular for Netflix between the various antics of Baki, Kengan Ashura completing its manga adaptation and even getting a crossover with Baki, and Record of Ragnarok. Not to mention on the live-action front there's been a very popular show called The Cage that has been in the Top 10 these past few weeks along with Cobra Kai. The problem is that all those shows skew older than the original Cartoon Network target audience. And while there are wrestling anime they could have used to mold their show into something more original, everyone involved is utterly disinterested in engaging with the material on that deeper level, hence the shallow fights that feel like the oft-criticized "Diet Anime", where they have a surface level understanding of the aesthetic but do not understand why those aesthetics are used, nor are they able to successfully blend them together with their Current Year designs. A big problem with the show is the designs to be frank. They don't work, they're not believable, and they create this weird visual discomfort. I've said it before, most people really don't want to see this little black girl get wailed on by bigger dudes. It doesn't look or feel right. Not to mention because she's small and doesn't really have anything noticeable, because this is (allegedly) based on pro wrestling, you run into the believability problem that a lot of older school guys rant about AEW being guilty of. Namely, if your performer does not look like he or she can whip someone, which isn't necessarily just size, it's going to look off. In a case where it's a girl getting beat up by men, it doesn't look right. Jim Cornette discusses it below in a pro wrestling context, but I think it also applies to the show. Edited November 21 by Jman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonamiguy321 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 15 hours ago, Sketch said: I think as the show continues they'll incorporate a lot of actual wrestling techniques but I suppose that remains to be seen. Ok but we are kinda at the halfway point of the show. If it’s gonna do that, it doesn’t have much time to. I’ll admit, so far its ratings have been decent so it might actually earn an S2 if those hold, but when you get 10 episodes you need to work around 10 episodes. 11 hours ago, Jman said: A big problem with the show is the designs to be frank. They don't work, they're not believable, and they create this weird visual discomfort. I've said it before, most people really don't want to see this little black girl get wailed on by bigger dudes. It doesn't look or feel right. This is one of the big complaints I see that I actually don’t share. It’s one of the few cartoon elements the show is embracing, rather than sticking to “realistic” anime style designs. I don’t care that the 8 year old is jacked like he was fed pure protein at birth, it’s supposed to be a cartoon. My one design complaint is there seems to be some inconsistency with Andy. Early promo art made her look like a grade schooler, where in the show I guess she is an adult? I’m still not 100% sure. She had a job so I assume yes, but the show hasn’t really been clear on the matter. It makes it hard to decide if this show is a kid living their dream or an adult breaking free of the drudgery of adulthood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCPissPants Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Is Andy legal or jailbait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 (edited) 33 minutes ago, MCPissPants said: Is Andy legal or jailbait? I’m presuming she’s a minor. Quote Ok but we are kinda at the halfway point of the show. If it’s gonna do that, it doesn’t have much time to. I’ll admit, so far its ratings have been decent so it might actually earn an S2 if those hold, but when you get 10 episodes you need to work around 10 episodes. It’s completely failed to chart on Max which was the big saver for a lot of these originals, including MAWS which did frequently chart on Max. Edited November 22 by Jman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KageRageX Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 So this show is basically cooked? Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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