Predict Toonami in 2024

[OwlChemist81]

27 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

There are plenty of other people with my same mindset who have zero investment in One Piece on Toonami and only sat through it to get to Naruto. 

Maybe, but you must be in the minority since it occasionally outpaces Demon Slayer in the ratings!

[Sketch]

So I'm just gonna throw it out there that there's rumors that Dragon Ball Daima will be simuldubbed and casting is already underway with new actors filling the roles of the younger versions of established characters. I think there's a handful of reasonably likely scenarios that could play out depending on what Toei wants to do.

A) Disney throws money at Toei to get it first on Hulu, maybe a same day dub or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast, CR at least gets to stream the Japanese simulcast

B) Toei sticks with Toonami since they still value television and the dub premieres on Toonami  2-4 weeks after the simulcast, Japanese simulcast is on CR and/or Hulu, one or both get to stream the dub eventually

C) CR gets the premiere with a simuldub either same day or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast but it also airs on Toonami within 1-3 months, Hulu probably gets it later

D) CR and Hulu get same day Japanese simulcast and a simuldub 2+ weeks after, Toonami airs it within 1-3 months

The most unlikely thing would be for any of them to get it completely exclusively but I suppose that could happen for at least a window of time.

All of that said, if those rumors hold merit then whether Toonami gets the dub premiere or not we could still see it on the block as early as November.

[brianycpht]

42 minutes ago, Sketch said:

So I'm just gonna throw it out there that there's rumors that Dragon Ball Daima will be simuldubbed and casting is already underway with new actors filling the roles of the younger versions of established characters. I think there's a handful of reasonably likely scenarios that could play out depending on what Toei wants to do.

A) Disney throws money at Toei to get it first on Hulu, maybe a same day dub or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast, CR at least gets to stream the Japanese simulcast

B) Toei sticks with Toonami since they still value television and the dub premieres on Toonami  2-4 weeks after the simulcast, Japanese simulcast is on CR and/or Hulu, one or both get to stream the dub eventually

C) CR gets the premiere with a simuldub either same day or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast but it also airs on Toonami within 1-3 months, Hulu probably gets it later

D) CR and Hulu get same day Japanese simulcast and a simuldub 2+ weeks after, Toonami airs it within 1-3 months

The most unlikely thing would be for any of them to get it completely exclusively but I suppose that could happen for at least a window of time.

All of that said, if those rumors hold merit then whether Toonami gets the dub premiere or not we could still see it on the block as early as November.

The Hulu wild card concerns me because it seems TOEI is coming around to that being equivalent or even better than a television airing 

I don’t see why it can’t be on all 3 to get the widest reach 

Edited September 4 by brianycpht

[Sketch]

Toei most likely will spread it around unless Disney comes along with F YOU money demanding an exclusive.

They haven't actually done that with a Toei show yet to my knowledge but they got Sand Land and seem very pleased to have DBZ Kai (which Crunchyroll does not) and Disney can see the international value of having Dragon Ball Daima which gives them all the more reason to not let Crunchyroll or someone else have it in Latin America and other parts of the world.

I suppose I shouldn't entirely rule out Netflix  given they got WIT Piece from Toei but if they had Daima then we'd probably know that by now.

[Mr. Idea Box]

The one show that would be deemed perfect for Toonami otherwise, and I forgot it in my predictions. Goes to show how sparse information was before now.

2 hours ago, Sketch said:

So I'm just gonna throw it out there that there's rumors that Dragon Ball Daima will be simuldubbed and casting is already underway with new actors filling the roles of the younger versions of established characters. I think there's a handful of reasonably likely scenarios that could play out depending on what Toei wants to do.

A) Disney throws money at Toei to get it first on Hulu, maybe a same day dub or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast, CR at least gets to stream the Japanese simulcast

B) Toei sticks with Toonami since they still value television and the dub premieres on Toonami  2-4 weeks after the simulcast, Japanese simulcast is on CR and/or Hulu, one or both get to stream the dub eventually

C) CR gets the premiere with a simuldub either same day or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast but it also airs on Toonami within 1-3 months, Hulu probably gets it later

D) CR and Hulu get same day Japanese simulcast and a simuldub 2+ weeks after, Toonami airs it within 1-3 months

The most unlikely thing would be for any of them to get it completely exclusively but I suppose that could happen for at least a window of time.

All of that said, if those rumors hold merit then whether Toonami gets the dub premiere or not we could still see it on the block as early as November.

Option B would be the best outcome for Toonami, while the worst would be Option A. Do you want the Undead Unluck fate thrust upon Goku and Vegeta?

As for what I want out of these rumors, it's probably Option C or D, as I'm split down the middle.

[Toonamiguy321]

4 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Maybe, but you must be in the minority since it occasionally outpaces Demon Slayer in the ratings!

Demon Slayer is still suffering from Demarco poisoning the well and tell everyone it would never air. That won’t clear up till the next arc, which came after we got Mugen Train. 
 

We have also yet to see how a Toonami without Naruto bait at the end does. 
 

4 hours ago, Sketch said:

So I'm just gonna throw it out there that there's rumors that Dragon Ball Daima will be simuldubbed and casting is already underway with new actors filling the roles of the younger versions of established characters. I think there's a handful of reasonably likely scenarios that could play out depending on what Toei wants to do.

A) Disney throws money at Toei to get it first on Hulu, maybe a same day dub or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast, CR at least gets to stream the Japanese simulcast

B) Toei sticks with Toonami since they still value television and the dub premieres on Toonami  2-4 weeks after the simulcast, Japanese simulcast is on CR and/or Hulu, one or both get to stream the dub eventually

C) CR gets the premiere with a simuldub either same day or 2+ weeks behind the Japanese simulcast but it also airs on Toonami within 1-3 months, Hulu probably gets it later

D) CR and Hulu get same day Japanese simulcast and a simuldub 2+ weeks after, Toonami airs it within 1-3 months

The most unlikely thing would be for any of them to get it completely exclusively but I suppose that could happen for at least a window of time.

All of that said, if those rumors hold merit then whether Toonami gets the dub premiere or not we could still see it on the block as early as November.

In a bit of strange synergy, Daima starts the 11th. Toonami has R&M, DS and Uzumaki all end simultaneously on the 19th. Theoretically, Daima could start right on the 26th if they are serious about a simuldub but are also giving themselves a bit of holiday buffer time. Of course, that means skipping a Rick marathon, skipping an Uzumaki marathon, as well as semi locking themselves out of marathons (except Christmas and New Years) until Daima finishes its run. Is fresh Dragonball enough to make them make those sacrifices? Maybe. If Toonami is getting some kind of early deal, I’d wager we learn about it soon, that’s not news you sit on. 
 

IF they land it, I could see this being the post DST schedule.

12 - Daima

12:30 - Invincible Fight Girl

1 - One Piece

1:30 - One Piece

2 - MHA

2:30 - MHA

As I have suggested before, DST as well as a DB pickup, would be the justification for cutting a rerun slot off the block. Not one person would question it or complain. Kai would be the cut show since it would be redundant, don’t want a Shippuden/Boruto repeat, and i assume they want to keep MHA moving. 
 

But of course, those are all big if scenarios. As you said, all big money players in the market are motivated to add this show to their catalogs, preferably with an exclusive deal. If the only deciding factor here was money, Toonami would already be out. If Toei is willing to influence the deal, that’s the only way Toonami can get a foot in. 
 

1 hour ago, Mr. Idea Box said:

Option B would be the best outcome for Toonami, while the worst would be Option A. Do you want the Undead Unluck fate thrust upon Goku and Vegeta?

 

Option A (or any similar big money player like Netflix) landing the show and clearly blocking its shot at running on Toonami would be the best outcome. IF we get Daima, the block is going to suffer for months because they will likely shoot 4-6 months worth of budget directly into Daima. And they will just try to coast on it because it’s the new DB so why do they need anything else? 
 

It just going elsewhere isn’t enough. It needs to be like Jojo where there is a 0% chance of Toonami getting it so Demarco doesn’t spend years trying to make a deal for it like he did with Demon Slayer. 

[Sketch]

Double MHA won't last past November unless they're trying to start season 7 in December. It will dial back to 1 episode to drag things to January.

The obvious choice to fill the rerun slot MHA will open up is Demon Slayer. That is of course unless Aniplex actually let Toonami have the Hashira Training arc already. I completely dismissed that as plausible before but we have no idea how good this relationship with Aniplex actually is so it's worth considering.

So let's say Toonami actually does managed to get first dibs on the dub of Daima and it's only two or three weeks behind Japan. Here's some potential schedules. In all of these scenarios I expect Invincible Fight Girl to join the block the week after Daima has it's long episode premiere.

November 2nd Daima Premiere (also works for October 26th if they choose not to do an Uzumaki marathon because of Daima)

12:00 AM - Dragon Ball Daima
01:00 AM - Mashle / One Piece / Demon Slayer Hashira Training Arc (also a long episode so no 1:30 show if so)
01:30 AM - One Piece
02:00 AM - MHA (shifted up in anticipation of S7 in January)
02:30 AM - Dragon Ball Z Kai
03:00 AM - Demon Slayer Swordsmith Village Arc

October 26th Daima Premiere followed by Uzumaki marathon because they can't help themselves

12:00 AM - Dragon Ball Daima
01:00 AM - Uzumaki Dub Marathon
03:00 AM - Dragon Ball Z Kai (to keep pace with Rewind)

And if Daima needs 3-4 weeks AND MHA has been secured then we could see this on November 2nd or 9th following an MHA marathon the week prior

12:00 AM - Dragon Ball Daima (IFG starts the next Saturday at 12:30 between DBD and MHA)
01:00 AM - MHA Season 7
01:30 AM - One Piece
02:00 AM - Dragon Ball Z Kai
02:30 AM - Demon Slayer Swordsmith Village Arc

A much better scenario would be if Toonami got 11:30 back with Daima but given they don't even have a premiere for 2am there's no sense in expanding unless Toei demands the slightly earlier time slot. Hey if they'll throw in some extra One Piece for the trouble then Toonami wouldn't struggle to fill another premiere slot.

What I'd most like to see in the scenario Toonami got the Daima dub premiere?

11:30 PM - Dragon Ball Daima
12:00 AM - Invincible Fight Girl
12:30 AM - My Hero Academia Season 7 / Demon Slayer Hashira
1:00 AM - Something from Sentai / Mashle
1:30 AM - One Piece
2:00 AM - One Piece
2:30 AM - IGPX Season 2

[Mr. Idea Box]

1 hour ago, Sketch said:

What I'd most like to see in the scenario Toonami got the Daima dub premiere?

11:30 PM - Dragon Ball Daima
12:00 AM - Invincible Fight Girl
12:30 AM - My Hero Academia Season 7 / Demon Slayer Hashira
1:00 AM - Something from Sentai / Mashle
1:30 AM - One Piece
2:00 AM - One Piece
2:30 AM - IGPX Season 2

Swap IFG and Daima, and this would be my dream November Toonami lineup.

[Toonamiguy321]

9 hours ago, Sketch said:

Double MHA won't last past November unless they're trying to start season 7 in December. It will dial back to 1 episode to drag things to January.

The obvious choice to fill the rerun slot MHA will open up is Demon Slayer. That is of course unless Aniplex actually let Toonami have the Hashira Training arc already. I completely dismissed that as plausible before but we have no idea how good this relationship with Aniplex actually is so it's worth considering.

So let's say Toonami actually does managed to get first dibs on the dub of Daima and it's only two or three weeks behind Japan. Here's some potential schedules. In all of these scenarios I expect Invincible Fight Girl to join the block the week after Daima has it's long episode premiere.

November 2nd Daima Premiere (also works for October 26th if they choose not to do an Uzumaki marathon because of Daima)

12:00 AM - Dragon Ball Daima
01:00 AM - Mashle / One Piece / Demon Slayer Hashira Training Arc (also a long episode so no 1:30 show if so)
01:30 AM - One Piece
02:00 AM - MHA (shifted up in anticipation of S7 in January)
02:30 AM - Dragon Ball Z Kai
03:00 AM - Demon Slayer Swordsmith Village Arc

October 26th Daima Premiere followed by Uzumaki marathon because they can't help themselves

12:00 AM - Dragon Ball Daima
01:00 AM - Uzumaki Dub Marathon
03:00 AM - Dragon Ball Z Kai (to keep pace with Rewind)

And if Daima needs 3-4 weeks AND MHA has been secured then we could see this on November 2nd or 9th following an MHA marathon the week prior

12:00 AM - Dragon Ball Daima (IFG starts the next Saturday at 12:30 between DBD and MHA)
01:00 AM - MHA Season 7
01:30 AM - One Piece
02:00 AM - Dragon Ball Z Kai
02:30 AM - Demon Slayer Swordsmith Village Arc

A much better scenario would be if Toonami got 11:30 back with Daima but given they don't even have a premiere for 2am there's no sense in expanding unless Toei demands the slightly earlier time slot. Hey if they'll throw in some extra One Piece for the trouble then Toonami wouldn't struggle to fill another premiere slot.

What I'd most like to see in the scenario Toonami got the Daima dub premiere?

11:30 PM - Dragon Ball Daima
12:00 AM - Invincible Fight Girl
12:30 AM - My Hero Academia Season 7 / Demon Slayer Hashira
1:00 AM - Something from Sentai / Mashle
1:30 AM - One Piece
2:00 AM - One Piece
2:30 AM - IGPX Season 2

Option 1 won’t happen. If we get Daima, we aren’t getting anything else because it will destroy the budget. We probably won’t see anything till spring at the earliest. 
 

Option 2 I could see just because they love to have their cake and eat it too so a Daima premier followed by rerun marathon fits. But, with the only other premier being One Piece, that’s not really even a loss anyway. 
 

Option 3 id give slim odds. They may or may not already have MHA secure somehow. If they don’t, see option 1. 
 

Option 4 id also rank at zero chance. As I said at announcement, if Rick and Morty can’t bump this block to 11:30, nothing ever will. That includes new DB. And again, there will be no further pickups if the block gets Daima. 
 

IMO every potential block should have IFG slotted on it until we see AS make a commitment to air it elsewhere. It absolutely does not belong on Toonami under any circumstances but it wouldn’t be the first time a vastly inappropriate for Toonami show has been forced onto it. 
 

Here’s a hypothetical to consider following up on your theory about Toei and timeslots. What if, purely to appease Toei, Daima premiers on Rewind and then has a Saturday encore? I know what you are thinking “that’s stupid!” “That’s not Rewind if it’s a premier!” AS does not give one single shit if it means they get the Daima deal. If you recall, a chunk of Super premiered at 8pm on Saturdays and then reran a few hours later on Toonami proper. AS is not opposed to doing something obtuse if it makes Toei happy to sign a deal. 

[brianycpht]

53 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

 

 

Here’s a hypothetical to consider following up on your theory about Toei and timeslots. What if, purely to appease Toei, Daima premiers on Rewind and then has a Saturday encore? I know what you are thinking “that’s stupid!” “That’s not Rewind if it’s a premier!” AS does not give one single shit if it means they get the Daima deal. If you recall, a chunk of Super premiered at 8pm on Saturdays and then reran a few hours later on Toonami proper. AS is not opposed to doing something obtuse if it makes Toei happy to sign a deal. 

What’s interesting about Daima is that it’s airing at 11:30 PM Friday nights and is NOT being given a child friendly time slot. Rumor is that this show has MORE violence and blood than Super. Ironic considering the aesthetics of the show 

So TOEI should be just fine with a midnight premiere slot. However, because it doesn’t seem to be geared for child consumption, there’s a better chance that they may not care as much about a TV airing 

[Sketch]

2 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Option 1 won’t happen. If we get Daima, we aren’t getting anything else because it will destroy the budget. We probably won’t see anything till spring at the earliest. 
 

Option 2 I could see just because they love to have their cake and eat it too so a Daima premier followed by rerun marathon fits. But, with the only other premier being One Piece, that’s not really even a loss anyway. 
 

Option 3 id give slim odds. They may or may not already have MHA secure somehow. If they don’t, see option 1. 
 

Option 4 id also rank at zero chance. As I said at announcement, if Rick and Morty can’t bump this block to 11:30, nothing ever will. That includes new DB. And again, there will be no further pickups if the block gets Daima. 
 

IMO every potential block should have IFG slotted on it until we see AS make a commitment to air it elsewhere. It absolutely does not belong on Toonami under any circumstances but it wouldn’t be the first time a vastly inappropriate for Toonami show has been forced onto it. 
 

Here’s a hypothetical to consider following up on your theory about Toei and timeslots. What if, purely to appease Toei, Daima premiers on Rewind and then has a Saturday encore? I know what you are thinking “that’s stupid!” “That’s not Rewind if it’s a premier!” AS does not give one single shit if it means they get the Daima deal. If you recall, a chunk of Super premiered at 8pm on Saturdays and then reran a few hours later on Toonami proper. AS is not opposed to doing something obtuse if it makes Toei happy to sign a deal. 

What they should do is have Daima and IFG in the 7pm hour after Rewind, directly after Kai. That would mean Toonami is lead off by two encores though which could leave only One Piece for a premiere… yikes.

I don’t think getting Daima completely eliminates the possibility of another acquisition before next year but if Daima doesn’t even premiere on Saturday Toonami then it would screw over anything other than an already established show like MHA or Demon Slayer. I would not want them to do that to a franchise that is new to the block. Having it stuck behind potentially two reruns reeks. At least wait till IFG is over early next year.

[OwlChemist81]

Is Daima going to have a 1-Hour premiere? Daima and Hashira both starting on 11/2 makes sense because due to DST ending, Toonami has an extra hour to play with. That means we could see this:

12 AM Dragon Ball Daima

1 AM Demon Slayer Hashira Training

1st 2 AM One Piece

1st 2:30 DBZ Kai or OP#2

2nd 2 AM MHA S6 Finish, commercial-free airing of S6E22-S6E25 (They did this last year with IGPX REMASTERED/R&M Shorts, though that was not part of Toonami.) This also assumes a marathon of S6E18-S6E21 the previous week, and alternatively as opposed to the commercial-free airing, Toonami could simply expand to 4 AM.

Then on 11/9, IFG and MHA S7 premiere. Also, as Hashira has 8 episodes, so running it from 11/2 to 12/21 does kinda make sense. That last night it would be more like a movie, probably airing from 12:30-2 AM. If IFG has 10 episodes, perhaps what they do is split the season, airing 5 episodes from 11/9 to 12/7, and the other 5 in early 2025, since DS Hashira needs the extra slot 12/14 as well.

Another wildcard is IGPX Season 2, which might also begin 11/9.

[brianycpht]

2 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Is Daima going to have a 1-Hour premiere? Daima and Hashira both starting on 11/2 makes sense because due to DST ending, Toonami has an extra hour to play with. That means we could see this:

12 AM Dragon Ball Daima

1 AM Demon Slayer Hashira Training

1st 2 AM One Piece

1st 2:30 DBZ Kai or OP#2

2nd 2 AM MHA S6 Finish, commercial-free airing of S6E22-S6E25 (They did this last year with IGPX REMASTERED/R&M Shorts, though that was not part of Toonami.) This also assumes a marathon of S6E18-S6E21 the previous week, and alternatively as opposed to the commercial-free airing, Toonami could simply expand to 4 AM.

Then on 11/9, IFG and MHA S7 premiere. Also, as Hashira has 8 episodes, so running it from 11/2 to 12/21 does kinda make sense. That last night it would be more like a movie, probably airing from 12:30-2 AM. If IFG has 10 episodes, perhaps what they do is split the season, airing 5 episodes from 11/9 to 12/7, and the other 5 in early 2025, since DS Hashira needs the extra slot 12/14 as well.

Another wildcard is IGPX Season 2, which might also begin 11/9.

Daima has a 40 something minute 1st episode 

[OwlChemist81]

Apparently, Episodes 2 & 4 of Uzumaki are 45 minutes long:

Squeezing Demon Slayer #55 (Swordsmith Village 11) into an hour when its runtime is 52 minutes will be quite a feat. I thought it was longer, though.

[Toonamiguy321]

Interesting that they never dropped a 9/28 schedule. Is that episode 45 minutes or nah? Seems like if any would be, it would be the first one. I have slightly higher hope that Uzumaki won’t suck with these extended episodes. 
 

Anyway, this is about what we expected to see. One Piece pays off 1 of its 3 episodes of debt, and will most likely cover number 2 on 10/26. I wish more people noticed this and would stop cheering for double One Piece. 
 

11/2 is when they are gonna have to pull some kind of magic out of their hats.

[brianycpht]

4 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Interesting that they never dropped a 9/28 schedule. Is that episode 45 minutes or nah? Seems like if any would be, it would be the first one. I have slightly higher hope that Uzumaki won’t suck with these extended episodes. 
 

Anyway, this is about what we expected to see. One Piece pays off 1 of its 3 episodes of debt, and will most likely cover number 2 on 10/26. I wish more people noticed this and would stop cheering for double One Piece. 
 

11/2 is when they are gonna have to pull some kind of magic out of their hats.

What do you want to bet they’ll stretch out things further with more marathons 

[Sketch]

1 hour ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Interesting that they never dropped a 9/28 schedule. Is that episode 45 minutes or nah? Seems like if any would be, it would be the first one. I have slightly higher hope that Uzumaki won’t suck with these extended episodes. 
 

Anyway, this is about what we expected to see. One Piece pays off 1 of its 3 episodes of debt, and will most likely cover number 2 on 10/26. I wish more people noticed this and would stop cheering for double One Piece. 
 

11/2 is when they are gonna have to pull some kind of magic out of their hats.

You got 3 weeks, would you rather have double One Piece or a rerun of FLCL Grunge? 🤣

For a moment there I was hopeful double One Piece would shift to 1:30-2:30 when Uzumaki came in but of course not. We can’t have 5 premieres even for 4 weeks. 🤨

Strange that they didn’t bother with a 09/28 schedule post but I can confirm the screener of Uzumaki ep 1 is 24~ mins. The question is if ep 3 is also 30+ mins or if oddly only eps 2 and 4 are longer than standard. It’s good at least two episodes are longer and won’t be crunched for time but for consistency sake I wish they were all 30+ mins.

Now they need 2.5+ hours for the marathon.

Unless Daima is coming on 11/02 I’m leaning toward a marathon that night. Either a needless RATAM marathon or an MHA catch-up if they’re ready to start season 7 in November.

They have the free space of IFG to use whenever but I remain hopeful that there will be two other block premieres in November besides IFG.

[Mr. Idea Box]

Well, I didn't expect two extended Uzumaki episodes, nor did I expect them to reveal the even-numbered episodes only. On the one hand, I'm glad they're not condensing the show into two hours. On the other hand, the Halloween marathon should be the dubbed version for their sake.

As for what this means for the future, I have mixed opinions on this. To make a long, almost rant-like story short, I'm beginning to consider skipping most of the 2024 holiday season as far as Toonami's concerned.

[Toonamiguy321]

8 hours ago, Sketch said:

You got 3 weeks, would you rather have double One Piece or a rerun of FLCL Grunge? 🤣

At the very least, that would lead the room temp IQ fanbase to the correct conclusion, that we actually got nothing. 

”Oh kick-ass double One Piece is back!” <- Moron after moron who is completely blind to One Piece completely leaving the schedule for X amount of weeks that it was doubled up. 
 

“What the hell FLCL Grunge again? What is this shit! Where are the new shows!” <- Same moron who has been lead to having the correct reaction to the current state of the schedule. 
 

They are very clearly capped on yearly episodes, so I don’t know why anyone would think this would have stuck around. 
 

11 hours ago, brianycpht said:

What do you want to bet they’ll stretch out things further with more marathons 

Really it’s all gonna hinge on Daima. Did they get it? They will cobble a schedule together for 11/2 even if Daima is the only new show. Did they not get it? They could easily stall till next year. There is no real rush for them to start MHA since they are already a full season behind it now. 
 

I don’t know how much they actually care about IFG. If that’s just a turd they need to get flushed, it could double up as the lead show for 5 weeks and solve most of their schedule concerns for the rest of the year. 

[brianycpht]

4 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

 

Really it’s all gonna hinge on Daima. Did they get it? They will cobble a schedule together for 11/2 even if Daima is the only new show. Did they not get it? They could easily stall till next year. There is no real rush for them to start MHA since they are already a full season behind it now. 
 

I don’t know how much they actually care about IFG. If that’s just a turd they need to get flushed, it could double up as the lead show for 5 weeks and solve most of their schedule concerns for the rest of the year. 

Typical TOEI tactics will mean that they won’t even be able to acknowledge a dub exists until at least the Japanese premiere.  

I’m guessing by the time it does premiere, they’ll finally get rid of Kai and leave it on rewind only. Please for the love of Kami don’t move Kai up to 12:30 to make a DB power hour. 
 

MHA is now in the same boat as Demon Slayer. No need a little rush it to air now.

[Sketch]

7 minutes ago, brianycpht said:

Typical TOEI tactics will mean that they won’t even be able to acknowledge a dub exists until at least the Japanese premiere.  

I’m guessing by the time it does premiere, they’ll finally get rid of Kai and leave it on rewind only. Please for the love of Kami don’t move Kai up to 12:30 to make a DB power hour. 
 

MHA is now in the same boat as Demon Slayer. No need a little rush it to air now.

I didn’t even consider the possibility of them moving Kai ahead of One Piece but if they have nothing else then I wouldn’t put it past them. 🤢

Guy, with regard to One Piece doubling up usually leading to weeks off the schedule. Even if it takes as long as once a week uninterrupted, double stripping One Piece and taking off a few weeks still does wonders for the sense of pacing. The same way most people prefer to watch a few episodes of One Piece in a marathon once a week rather than one daily. But ultimately I understand you want people to escape the Genjutsu and realize Toonami is doing nothing.

[Toonamiguy321]

2 hours ago, Sketch said:

Guy, with regard to One Piece doubling up usually leading to weeks off the schedule. Even if it takes as long as once a week uninterrupted, double stripping One Piece and taking off a few weeks still does wonders for the sense of pacing. The same way most people prefer to watch a few episodes of One Piece in a marathon once a week rather than one daily. But ultimately I understand you want people to escape the Genjutsu and realize Toonami is doing nothing.

I agree that double episodes make the show a lot more tolerable. It feels like we kinda take a step forward. One step, but that’s better than some weeks where it feels like nothing at all happens. I just wish people would notice we aren’t actually moving through it any faster and getting it doubled up is the equivalent of getting nothing. 

[Jman]

Yeah, Invincible Fight Girl (AKA Invisible Ratings Girl) will be leading the block off in November, where it will likely proceed to tank, mostly because I don't think that Daima will be ready by then.  

Daima's performance will be make-or-break, especially considering it seems to be relying more on original DB style comedy (where Toriyama always felt more comfortable anyway).

[brianycpht]

5 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

I agree that double episodes make the show a lot more tolerable. It feels like we kinda take a step forward. One step, but that’s better than some weeks where it feels like nothing at all happens. I just wish people would notice we aren’t actually moving through it any faster and getting it doubled up is the equivalent of getting nothing. 

In my binge watching of the show- I have to say watch at 1.5 speed in order to tolerate the slow pacing. It gets that bad 

[OwlChemist81]

On 9/14/2024 at 8:47 AM, brianycpht said:

In my binge watching of the show- I have to say watch at 1.5 speed in order to tolerate the slow pacing. It gets that bad 

If you just blast through the OP, intro, and commercials, it ends up about 1.5-speed!

[Mr. Idea Box]

With the absolute confirmation that IFG will be the first November show we get, here's an updated theory on how the holiday season might play out.

12.0: Invincible Fight Girl

12.5: My Hero Academia (Season 7)

1.0: One Piece

1.5: Dragon Ball Z Kai

2.0: IGPX HD (Season 2)

2.5: Rick and Morty: The Anime (dubbed version; Toonami lead-out)

This is under the foolish assumption that Daylight Savings gives us a MHA marathon, cuts the 3 AM half-hour, and brings back IGPX all in one sweep. There's no way I expect all three to happen though.

And yes, I will try to predict Toonami next year. The keyword being try.

[Sketch]

I made several builds with various options. Some with only two additions, some with three. None with a Thanksgiving marathon because I kinda feel like they wont take that week off with IFG starting in November but they certainly could. Plausible additions being MHA S7 with various catch-up methods before November 9th, Mashle (or sub in anything here they could possibly get from Aniplex or Sentai here), a not zero percent chance of Demon Slayer continuing into Hashira Training arc and finishing it before January and of course some chance for Dragon Ball Daima to pop in on November 16th (at the earliest) but because they started IFG on Nov 2nd and can't feasibly start Daima's long premiere until two weeks later, that one requires getting a bit more creative. I'd straight up just run two episodes of IFG for two weeks but according to press release there will usually be just one episode a week (I'm gonna say an hour finale is plenty likely still despite that). And I'm not too partial to the 3am slot so I don't think they need to keep it just for the sake of including another rerun. I've all but lost hope IGPX season 2 is ever going to air.

Here's the link to my schedule builds.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hv-nyPzJYWQ2hAg6h-4295UM4CvevsJvXa9O8vkvmVE/edit?usp=sharing

[Mr. Idea Box]

8 hours ago, Sketch said:

I made several builds with various options. Some with only two additions, some with three. None with a Thanksgiving marathon because I kinda feel like they wont take that week off with IFG starting in November but they certainly could. Plausible additions being MHA S7 with various catch-up methods before November 9th, Mashle (or sub in anything here they could possibly get from Aniplex or Sentai here), a not zero percent chance of Demon Slayer continuing into Hashira Training arc and finishing it before January and of course some chance for Dragon Ball Daima to pop in on November 16th (at the earliest) but because they started IFG on Nov 2nd and can't feasibly start Daima's long premiere until two weeks later, that one requires getting a bit more creative. I'd straight up just run two episodes of IFG for two weeks but according to press release there will usually be just one episode a week (I'm gonna say an hour finale is plenty likely still despite that). And I'm not too partial to the 3am slot so I don't think they need to keep it just for the sake of including another rerun. I've all but lost hope IGPX season 2 is ever going to air.

Here's the link to my schedule builds.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hv-nyPzJYWQ2hAg6h-4295UM4CvevsJvXa9O8vkvmVE/edit?usp=sharing

Looks pretty good, aside from the Daima build missing the premieres of Episodes 2-4 to get to Episode 9. Also, swapping the extra Sailor Moon premiere for a double helping of Naruto in late November makes sense. It's the only one of the three that hasn't gotten an hour-long showcase yet, and as we enter the second season around this point, it's safe to say the skipped episodes will stay skipped.

As for what I think of the builds? Well, I'm glad that MHA is in three of those builds, meaning it's a likely addition, but if I had to pick what I felt was the most likely, it would be Izuku's Red Hood phase and Two Piece being the November offerings. But if we did get Daima and Hashira in November, you won't see me complain.

[Jman]

My prediction is going to be a simple one for the new year.

If the LOTR movie bombs, DeMarco’s ass will be fired before the end of Q1 2025.  But that may not be the end of Toonami as the branding still has value for the leftover action shows.

[CountFrylock]

44 minutes ago, Jman said:

My prediction is going to be a simple one for the new year.

If the LOTR movie bombs, DeMarco’s ass will be fired before the end of Q1 2025.  But that may not be the end of Toonami as the branding still has value for the leftover action shows.

I doubt that 

[Toonamiguy321]

12 hours ago, Sketch said:

I made several builds with various options. Some with only two additions, some with three. None with a Thanksgiving marathon because I kinda feel like they wont take that week off with IFG starting in November but they certainly could. Plausible additions being MHA S7 with various catch-up methods before November 9th, Mashle (or sub in anything here they could possibly get from Aniplex or Sentai here), a not zero percent chance of Demon Slayer continuing into Hashira Training arc and finishing it before January and of course some chance for Dragon Ball Daima to pop in on November 16th (at the earliest) but because they started IFG on Nov 2nd and can't feasibly start Daima's long premiere until two weeks later, that one requires getting a bit more creative. I'd straight up just run two episodes of IFG for two weeks but according to press release there will usually be just one episode a week (I'm gonna say an hour finale is plenty likely still despite that). And I'm not too partial to the 3am slot so I don't think they need to keep it just for the sake of including another rerun. I've all but lost hope IGPX season 2 is ever going to air.

Here's the link to my schedule builds.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hv-nyPzJYWQ2hAg6h-4295UM4CvevsJvXa9O8vkvmVE/edit?usp=sharing

Given the short nature of Hashira Training, I could see them taking that option to carry us to the new year. They are already super behind on MHA, and will likely have a comparable delay on S8, there isn’t much harm in waiting till January where it can be the lead show until the next smelly original is ready to air. They need to tactically utilize the few acquired shows they can still get since that pool is ever dwindling. 
 

Definitely agree it’s long past time to cut back down to 6 slots. The schedule looks shitty enough without having 90 minutes of reruns at the end of it. 

[Sketch]

13 hours ago, Mr. Idea Box said:

Looks pretty good, aside from the Daima build missing the premieres of Episodes 2-4 to get to Episode 9. Also, swapping the extra Sailor Moon premiere for a double helping of Naruto in late November makes sense. It's the only one of the three that hasn't gotten an hour-long showcase yet, and as we enter the second season around this point, it's safe to say the skipped episodes will stay skipped.

As for what I think of the builds? Well, I'm glad that MHA is in three of those builds, meaning it's a likely addition, but if I had to pick what I felt was the most likely, it would be Izuku's Red Hood phase and Two Piece being the November offerings. But if we did get Daima and Hashira in November, you won't see me complain.

Thanks for catching that numbering error with Daima.

Yeah it’s time to let Naruto get the extra episode for a bit in all fairness but honestly my reasoning was because the first season of Sailor Moon is 46 episodes and I’m not sure if they have more than that.

[Mr. Idea Box]

7 hours ago, Sketch said:

Thanks for catching that numbering error with Daima.

You're welcome. At least it would be a three-hour marathon in that instance.

7 hours ago, Sketch said:

Yeah it’s time to let Naruto get the extra episode for a bit in all fairness but honestly my reasoning was because the first season of Sailor Moon is 46 episodes and I’m not sure if they have more than that.

Understandable, yet with only three shows to cycle through, the pattern of "who gets the bonus episode" would likely repeat if they don't get a fourth program.

[Toonamiguy321]

As expected, Uzumaki marathon for 10/26. As not expected, they aren’t using this opportunity to air the dub. 2.5 hours of subs seems like a disaster, especially with opinion of Uzumaki in a freefall. 
 

Also kind of surprised to see them not use this opportunity to run HCC.

[Jman]

2 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

As expected, Uzumaki marathon for 10/26. As not expected, they aren’t using this opportunity to air the dub. 2.5 hours of subs seems like a disaster, especially with opinion of Uzumaki in a freefall. 
 

Also kind of surprised to see them not use this opportunity to run HCC.

Oh this oughta be fun.  Let’s see if it gets views or makes people wish it was DanDaDan (which is keeping its positive vibes two episodes in, and hit the Netflix top 10 this week at #6).

[Sketch]

2 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

As expected, Uzumaki marathon for 10/26. As not expected, they aren’t using this opportunity to air the dub. 2.5 hours of subs seems like a disaster, especially with opinion of Uzumaki in a freefall. 
 

Also kind of surprised to see them not use this opportunity to run HCC.

It’s beyond asinine at this point to withhold the dub of Uzumaki from the Toonami faithful to this extent. 2.5 hours of subbed anime we just finished watching and probably don’t want to revisit because the production fell apart. Great idea programming! 👍🏻 

It was so easy to play this off as a red carpet premiere of the dub for Toonami but they blew it.

I will not put it past them to use the dub as filler in November to try to squeeze out one more airing of the dub this year.

At any rate the decision to keep MHA on probably means season 7 is coming in November but there’s still 6 episodes to rerun in November before that. They can use DST to add at least 2 more without cutting into the pre-2:30 space but they might as well run 6 episodes either after One Piece or omit One Piece and DBZ Kai to make it a theme night with just IFG and MHA to promote MHA season 7.

Alternatively if they plan to continue Demon Slayer into the next 8 episode arc then they could run IFG from 12am-1am followed by the long premiere of Demon Slayer’s Hashira Training arc and then either blow through 6 eps of MHA so it can also start season 7 on November 9th. I call that the “we can’t get Daima till 2025” scenario. Mainly because there’s no sense using 4 potential headliners simultaneously in the last two months of the year. Exceedingly better to save at least one for 2025, granted MHA and Daima both last about half a year so even if they both started in November they will still be headliner material till Spring.

Starting Daima in November would be disruptive no matter how they do it, but that won’t likely deter them from airing it ASAP if Toei grants them dub premieres. Even if it means three weeks of strange schedules where current premieres get shifted around.

DBZ Kai on Saturday will now be encores of the episode on Rewind. They should drop it from the Saturday block but they’re so short on good rerun options if MHA is back in premieres and/or Demon Slayer continues to the next arc. Sure would be nice to see IGPX season 2 but they just refuse to bring it back. So they’re probably keeping DBZ Kai on both blocks.

I edited my builds to accommodate the announced Oct 26th schedule.

Edited October 11 by Sketch

[Toonamiguy321]

3 hours ago, Jman said:

Oh this oughta be fun.  Let’s see if it gets views or makes people wish it was DanDaDan (which is keeping its positive vibes two episodes in, and hit the Netflix top 10 this week at #6).

We will never know since as with most reruns, it won’t do well enough to be reported. 
 

9 minutes ago, Sketch said:

It’s beyond asinine at this point to withhold the dub of Uzumaki from the Toonami faithful to this extent. 2.5 hours of subbed anime we just finished watching and probably don’t want to revisit because the production fell apart. Great idea programming! 👍🏻 

It was so easy to play this off as a red carpet premiere of the dub for Toonami but they blew it.

I will not put it past them to use the dub as filler in November to try to squeeze out one more airing of the dub this year.

At any rate the decision to keep MHA on probably means season 7 is coming in November but there’s still 6 episodes to rerun in Novembe before that. They can use DST to add at least 2 more without cutting into the pre-2:30 space but they might as well run 6 episodes either after One Piece or omit One Piece and DBZ Kai to make it a theme night with just IFG and MHA to promote MHA season 7.

Alternatively if they plan to continue Demon Slayer into the next 8 episode arc then they could run IFG from 12am-1am followed by the long premiere of Demon Slayer’s Hashira Training arc and then either blow through 6 eps of MHA so it can also start season 7 on November 9th. I call that the “we can’t get Daima till 2025” scenario. Mainly because there’s no sense using 4 potential headliners simultaneously in the last two months of the year. Exceedingly better to save at least one for 2025, granted MHA and Daima both last about half a year so even if they both started in November they will still be headliner material till Spring.

Starting Daima in November would be disruptive no matter how they do it, but that won’t likely deter them from airing it ASAP if Toei grants them dub premieres. Even if it means three weeks of strange schedules where current premieres get shifted around.

I edited my builds to accommodate the announced Oct 26th schedule.

I think just blowing through the rest on 11/2 makes the most sense. The only thing it delays is One Piece, and it’s not like 1 missed episode is making a dent in our 500+ deficit we will never catch up on. They want to start it ASAP so it gets rolling a little before the holiday delays. 
 

I know 10/26 isn’t shorter time wise due to Uzumaki running long, but it is a subtle return to 6 slots, I expect that to stick going into future weeks. 

[brianycpht]

11 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

We will never know since as with most reruns, it won’t do well enough to be reported. 
 

I think just blowing through the rest on 11/2 makes the most sense. The only thing it delays is One Piece, and it’s not like 1 missed episode is making a dent in our 500+ deficit we will never catch up on. They want to start it ASAP so it gets rolling a little before the holiday delays. 
 

I know 10/26 isn’t shorter time wise due to Uzumaki running long, but it is a subtle return to 6 slots, I expect that to stick going into future weeks. 

If Kai is also preempted on 11/2, then it’ll be one episode behind Rewind. Time for it to go 

[brianycpht]

4 minutes ago, brianycpht said:

If Kai is also preempted on 11/2, then it’ll be one episode behind Rewind. Time for it to go 

Actually I think that’s when it gets caught up. Either way, it’s time 

[brianycpht]

If they purposely put off airing Daima because it’s too close to the end of the year or a holiday while letting streamers jump ahead of them- it shows everything that’s wrong with them and why they deserve for it to backfire on them 

[Toonamiguy321]

1 hour ago, brianycpht said:

If Kai is also preempted on 11/2, then it’ll be one episode behind Rewind. Time for it to go 

I have kinda given up on them growing a brain and dropping Kai. I guess they could do this schedule

12 - IFG

12:30 - MHA S7

1 - One Piece

1:30 - Rick and Morty (dub)

2 - IGPX

2:30 - Demon Slayer Swordsmith Village

Mix those reruns up however you see fit. It’s doable to drop Kai, I just don’t think they want to and like to double dip. 
 

52 minutes ago, brianycpht said:

If they purposely put off airing Daima because it’s too close to the end of the year or a holiday while letting streamers jump ahead of them- it shows everything that’s wrong with them and why they deserve for it to backfire on them 

Demarco usually makes the wrong choice, but I feel like they wouldn’t with Daima. If it’s not airing, that means they don’t have it. We have to remember it’s easily the most expensive license on the market, even with a Toei friendship discount it won’t be cheap. They may not be able to swing it. 
 

I say we can’t write it off till the 11/16 schedule drops. Thats the first week after the theater premier. That could be a factor in a delay too, if it’s a smash hit, they may want to extend its mileage in the theater. 
 

On the topic of pointless delays though, why was the 11/2 schedule not dropped today? With IFG already announced, Toonami should have a full schedule out to go with that. I highly doubt anything but IFG is on the 11/2 schedule, so why hold it till next Friday?

[brianycpht]

12 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

I have kinda given up on them growing a brain and dropping Kai. I guess they could do this schedule

12 - IFG

12:30 - MHA S7

1 - One Piece

1:30 - Rick and Morty (dub)

2 - IGPX

2:30 - Demon Slayer Swordsmith Village

Mix those reruns up however you see fit. It’s doable to drop Kai, I just don’t think they want to and like to double dip. 
 

Demarco usually makes the wrong choice, but I feel like they wouldn’t with Daima. If it’s not airing, that means they don’t have it. We have to remember it’s easily the most expensive license on the market, even with a Toei friendship discount it won’t be cheap. They may not be able to swing it. 
 

I say we can’t write it off till the 11/16 schedule drops. Thats the first week after the theater premier. That could be a factor in a delay too, if it’s a smash hit, they may want to extend its mileage in the theater. 
 

On the topic of pointless delays though, why was the 11/2 schedule not dropped today? With IFG already announced, Toonami should have a full schedule out to go with that. I highly doubt anything but IFG is on the 11/2 schedule, so why hold it till next Friday?

My thinking is that the Daima dub “movie” will ONLY be in theaters for now for paying customers and if successful, the run will be extended through Thanksgiving. They may not let anyone even think of running it until they milk every dollar first. I’m surprised they aren’t trying to sell DVDs first 

In that case, a January premiere of the rest makes more sense, but if they have the option to start it and delay because of holidays- that’s dumb because streamers don’t have that self imposed old school mentality 

As for 11/2, if they revealed that now and showed a MHA blowout, that might reveal they got season 7. Oh no what a catastrophe that would be to actually inform people of something more than 2 weeks ahead of time 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 11 by brianycpht

[Mr. Idea Box]

7 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

As expected, Uzumaki marathon for 10/26. As not expected, they aren’t using this opportunity to air the dub. 2.5 hours of subs seems like a disaster, especially with opinion of Uzumaki in a freefall. 
 

Also kind of surprised to see them not use this opportunity to run HCC.

Actually, skipping Housing Complex C this year is something I expected to happen, especially when you consider Uzumaki on paper.

Not premiering the dubbed version for the Halloween marathon? Yeah, I'm with y'all on this one.

Either way, the real test of endurance appears to be on November 9th, when we know what IFG is being paired up with.

[Blatch]

3 hours ago, Mr. Idea Box said:

Actually, skipping Housing Complex C this year is something I expected to happen, especially when you consider Uzumaki on paper.

At this point I'm convinced Housing Complex 'C' is something that only exists because of Uzumaki's delays. DeMarco was desperate and needed his fix of "creepy things happen in a small town", regardless of how it was gonna turn out. Now that we have something ostensibly better, you might as well write that show off.[

[goodbye everyone, I'll remember you all on myspleen]

[Toonamiguy321]

3 hours ago, Mr. Idea Box said:

Actually, skipping Housing Complex C this year is something I expected to happen, especially when you consider Uzumaki on paper.

Not premiering the dubbed version for the Halloween marathon? Yeah, I'm with y'all on this one.

Either way, the real test of endurance appears to be on November 9th, when we know what IFG is being paired up with.

I just figured they would pair the two together. There is never really a good time to air HCC otherwise. Too short to be in the rerun cycle. I mean, I’m not watching a rerun marathon regardless, I just find it to be a strange choice. 
 

I can see they seem to have a goal with MHA completing but still. If you are doing a Halloween marathon, you would think they would whip out their Halloween appropriate schedule filler. 

[Sketch]

HCC plays best as a marathon due to it's drawn out pacing in the first 2-3 episodes but it seems like they missed a good opportunity to run weekly on the same nights as Uzumaki. Since they were real boneheads and didn't run the dub on Toonami and forced people to wait till Thursday I'll say what they should have done was run the Uzumaki dub after One Piece and HCC on the same nights the sub episodes premiered. They could have done that for the entire month. Awkward as it might have been they could just run double MHA after those if they didn't want to disrupt that.

BTW they're doing an Uzumaki dub marathon on Thursday October 31st. Makes sense to run it on Halloween night (even though it's not Halloween after 12am) but they could have ran the sub that night and the dub on Toonami to switch things up. I swear if they toss the dub of Uzumaki or worse the dub of RATAM on Toonami in November airing once a week I'm gonna flip some tables or something. I can definitely see them doing one or the other as filler if MHA is back in premieres and Demon Slayer stays in premieres but if Demon Slayer can rerun in the back then they don't need either of them to fill a slot. Cap the block at 3am except on the weeks when Demon Slayer runs long. But RATAM seems destined to fill a post 3AM slot on Saturday, it just doesn't have to be as part of Toonami.

[Toonamiguy321]

9 hours ago, brianycpht said:

My thinking is that the Daima dub “movie” will ONLY be in theaters for now for paying customers and if successful, the run will be extended through Thanksgiving. They may not let anyone even think of running it until they milk every dollar first. I’m surprised they aren’t trying to sell DVDs first 

Daima second chance over Thanksgiving weekend when lots of people have time off just sounds like a free money printing machine. I think Daima looks like toddler fanfic slop, but I’m not gonna pretend that it’s not gonna do numbers in the theaters either. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if they have already planned this, but want use hype to push more encore tickets. 
 

 

39 minutes ago, Sketch said:

BTW they're doing an Uzumaki dub marathon on Thursday October 31st. Makes sense to run it on Halloween night (even though it's not Halloween after 12am) but they could have ran the sub that night and the dub on Toonami to switch things up. I swear if they toss the dub of Uzumaki or worse the dub of RATAM on Toonami in November airing once a week I'm gonna flip some tables or something.

It’s funny, normally I’d be the one saying something like this. But ever since Naruto ended I have just been so zen with whatever happens. If it’s stupid I’ll say so, but at this point it’s just keeping up with the news. Toonami has become so incredibly predictable it’s hard to even be mad. I don’t consider the R&M dub being added in November to be speculation, it’s exactly what I expect to happen. There is no plan, and there hasn’t been one for a long time. It’s just whatever falls into place at a given moment. If nothing does, roll out the schedule filler. 

[Sketch]

I suppose we should consider Toei wanting more than one week of Daima in theaters before a dub broadcast... but since they're showing 3 episodes in theaters maybe they're good with Toonami showing the first episode on November 16th or November 23rd. But on the other hand they may want to wait till December (easy enough just do a Thanksgiving marathon if there aren't enough premieres) or even January (yet more marathons at the end of the month and maybe double One Piece if they need a temporary fix).

Hard to imagine Toei would make Crunchyroll wait until January to start streaming the dub exclusively (or shared with Hulu and/or Netflix) when it's already in production and has been for weeks. December maybe. It would sure suck if streamers got it in December and Toonami didn't till January or later but that's up to the whims of Toei.

[brianycpht]

3 hours ago, Sketch said:

I suppose we should consider Toei wanting more than one week of Daima in theaters before a dub broadcast... but since they're showing 3 episodes in theaters maybe they're good with Toonami showing the first episode on November 16th or November 23rd. But on the other hand they may want to wait till December (easy enough just do a Thanksgiving marathon if there aren't enough premieres) or even January (yet more marathons at the end of the month and maybe double One Piece if they need a temporary fix).

Hard to imagine Toei would make Crunchyroll wait until January to start streaming the dub exclusively (or shared with Hulu and/or Netflix) when it's already in production and has been for weeks. December maybe. It would sure suck if streamers got it in December and Toonami didn't till January or later but that's up to the whims of Toei.

What I’m mostly concerned with is them putting off airing any episode of the show because of a holiday and letting streamers (who don’t care about that at all) get ahead of them.  Especially this year where Toonami is on 12/21 and 12/28. Just run the show. Even if there’s something in the contract that ties the streamers to Toonami airing it first. Playing by old TV rules is gets Toonami left in the dust.

That works well for casual general audience shows, but niche shows or shows with big fanbases- they’ll turn out. In 2011, BBC America finally secured day of airing of Doctor Who and decided to skip Memorial Day weekend right and the fans just pirated the rest of the season 
 

 

Edited October 12 by brianycpht

[PokeNirvash]

12 hours ago, Blatch said:

At this point I'm convinced Housing Complex 'C' is something that only exists because of Uzumaki's delays. DeMarco was desperate and needed his fix of "creepy things happen in a small town", regardless of how it was gonna turn out.

You're only theorizing that now? Hell, I figured that was the case the moment it was announced to be four episodes, and that was before it even premiered!