resurrected Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, BlackNoir said: Dinner and supper are the same thing afaik....never heard lunch called dinner. We say breakfast, lunch, dinner. But when I was coming up, it was breakfast, dinner, lunch. Most of the older folks here still call lunch dinner.
Mortir Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, //>wagz./ said: //> I dont like my bread moist , or toast , unless specifically for that dish but other wise no biscuits and gravy are the southern caucasians stereotype supper./ Idk man french onino is pretty dope and that has bread in it. Also a bruschetta and nice tomato soup to dip in is good.
Mortir Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, resurrected said: I'll go you one even further. Down here, lunch is called dinner and dinner is called supper. Breakfast, dinner, supper. Not sure if anyone has ever heard that, but it is what it is. @BlackNoir did you ever hear this when you were down south?
//>wagz./ Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Mortir said: Idk man french onino is pretty dope and that has bread in it. Also a bruschetta and nice tomato soup to dip in is good. //> depends, sounds good ./
resurrected Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, Mortir said: I don't even eat first breakfast.
tsar4 Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, BlackNoir said: Dinner and supper are the same thing afaik....never heard lunch called dinner. Nope - Breakfast (breaking your fasting from overnight) Brunch - eaten in place of and later than breakfast (combination of breakfast & lunch) Lunch - afternoon meal, meant to tide you to... Dinner - main meal of the day Supper - lighter than & later than dinner. At least, this is what I remember reading about some time ago.
Mortir Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: Nope - Breakfast (breaking your fasting from overnight) Brunch - eaten in place of and later than breakfast (combination of breakfast & lunch) Lunch - afternoon meal, meant to tide you to... Dinner - main meal of the day Supper - lighter than & later than dinner. At least, this is what I remember reading about some time ago.
stilgar Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 7 hours ago, resurrected said: Tomato gravy is pretty damn good. You mean sauce. 1
stilgar Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 7 hours ago, resurrected said: No. Tomato gravy is a southern staple. You fry up some bacon and onions, then use the grease to make a roux with flour and a little chicken stock. Then add a can of diced tomatoes. Add sugar, salt, pepper, basil, and add chopped bacon to it. Let it simmer. Pour over biscuits. No, that is a sauce. Specifically it's base is the veloute sauce which is made from chicken stock but with extra steps. 1
resurrected Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, stilgar said: No, that is a sauce. Specifically it's base is the veloute sauce which is made from chicken stock but with extra steps. It is not even close to a sauce. It is thick because it's made with flour, like gravy is. I make tomato sauces. This is not a sauce. Since there is no meat juices, like from a roast when you cook it, the chicken stock is added. It acts as the meat juices.
Mortir Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Flour? I thought gravy base was stock of whatever animal. You really gonna say that tomato doesn't have juices?
resurrected Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Mortir said: Flour? I thought gravy base was stock of whatever animal. You really gonna say that tomato doesn't have juices? Gravy is made with flour added. I didn't say anything like tomatoes don't have juices. I said their is no meat juices. Hence, the addition of chicken stock. Keep up, son.
stilgar Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, resurrected said: It is not even close to a sauce. It is thick because it's made with flour, like gravy is. I make tomato sauces. This is not a sauce. Since there is no meat juices, like from a roast when you cook it, the chicken stock is added. It acts as the meat juices. Bechemel sauce- milk, flour, butter Veloute sauce- chicken stock, flour, butter Espangnole sauce- beef stock, flour, butter Three out of the five mother sauces use flour to thicken them. Gravy is made from pan drippings. If you didn't roast some kind of meat and deglazed the roasting pan you made a sauce. 1
stilgar Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, resurrected said: Gravy is made with flour added. I didn't say anything like tomatoes don't have juices. I said their is no meat juices. Hence, the addition of chicken stock. Keep up, son. Nope, you are incorrect.
Mortir Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, resurrected said: Gravy is made with flour added. I didn't say anything like tomatoes don't have juices. I said their is no meat juices. Hence, the addition of chicken stock. Keep up, son. Tomatoe has plenty of meat. It is just not animal protein.
resurrected Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, stilgar said: Bechemel sauce- milk, flour, butter Veloute sauce- chicken stock, flour, butter Espangnole sauce- beef stock, flour, butter Three out of the five mother sauces use flour to thicken them. Gravy is made from pan drippings. If you didn't roast some kind of meat and deglazed the roasting pan you made a sauce. What I make does not use chicken stock. Most recipes for it does. Which is what I posted. Mine is gravy, but I'm do not give out my own recipes. Mine has a meat product and the pan has been deglazed to make the gravy. For the purposes of giving a generalized idea of what tomato gravy is, I posted a simplistic recipe. Mine is not simplistic. I wasn't expecting to get critiqued over details, but I still do not regret not posting my actual recipe. Tomato gravy requires an acquired taste. So, it's not like anyone would want to try it anyways. If someone really is interested in trying my recipe, then I will share it via messenger.
resurrected Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 My tomato gravy is made using the same cooking methods and steps as traditional brown gravy. My bad for not being clear that what I posted is more of a sauce. The recipes call it tomato gravy, but I just posted the first one I found. Mine is nothing like that. I'm just not grasping my thoughts on my gravy and what I'm talking about here, which isn't mine. My apologies. Thanks for the correction stilgar.
Seight Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 <___< >___> Anybody ever try chocolate gravy?
molarbear Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 15 hours ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said: I had biscuits and gravy at IHOP once, it was really good. If you have a Carl's Jr/Hardee's around you they have some pretty damn good biscuits and gravy
molarbear Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 14 hours ago, resurrected said: Macaroni and cheese > biscuits and gravy. If there was ever a war over this debate I don't know if I would be able to pick a side
BlackNoir Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Meh, it's just called gravy...how did it get all sauce elitist....food doesn't have to accurately describe itself by it's name...Otherwise mountain oysters, hog head cheese, and steak fingers wouldn't be a thing. It's not jam, it MIGHT be sauce, but it's called gravy....No reason to be difficult.
Mortir Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, BlackNoir said: steak fingers I think you mean chicken fingers. But of course they have not been called chicken fingers since the the 1990s. Nowadays we just call them tendies.
BlackNoir Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, Mortir said: I think you mean chicken fingers. No....No I don't, Jamothy 1
Mortir Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Idk I had to Google steak fingers they kinda just look like tendies to me.
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